502 replies to this topic

[FireFox]

Wow it really has been a slow week huh? I guess the former....never had curry before though.

 

what were the comments made by the other authors? Anything interesting?

 

 

 

I think he believes her, the problem he'll have a hard time buying is that she's over Sasuke now

Well It won't be if this happens like I said there is no better confirmation then this imo .

 

 When Sasuke declares his goal and him going after Naruto's life this is when I see Sakura standing up and lashing out on Sasuke bc of Naruto since this is the pattern that Kishi has created . 

[natalieuciha]

Kishi quote of the week: "After all these years, my assistants and I debated the important moral dilemma, 'Would you rather eat poop-flavored curry or curry-flavored poop?'" 

 

 So.. which do you choose? 

hmm is this this some kind of hint to the pairings?...is he debating between ss or ns now?..goddamn

[Gojira]

hmm is this this some kind of hint to the pairings?...is he debating between ss or ns now?..goddamn

I don't think so, SS has been officially dead since 675 Kishi made his choice all the way back in 504 anyway.

[Gravenimage]

Correction SS has been dead since Kishi created Sakura's character. Making her the heroine and Naruto's love interest.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Correction SS has been dead since Kishi created Sakura's character. Making her the heroine and Naruto's love interest.

So it must be crawling with maggots. Ew...

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 11 July 2014 - 06:05 PM.

[natalieuciha]

I don't think so, SS has been officially dead since 675 Kishi made his choice all the way back in 504 anyway.

then why are so many crazy people so strongly believing it still has chance?...i tell you why..as long as the characters dont say with their own mouth that they gave up on somebody or love somebody else then they still can happen by some magic asspull..personaly i think kishi can pull this kitten out of his ass if he is persuaded by the editors or by popularity ..honestly i dont trust kishi at all..but still sasusaku has like 20 % chance of happening 

[redrose3443]

Sakura wanting acknowledgment from Sasuke sucks big time, cause I really want her to tell him " kitten you.". However, it's better than her wanting his love. I seriously hope Sakura won't turn into that sad quiet woman she was a few chapters ago. Cause I'm honestly getting tired of Kishi's draw backs. When Sasuke first came into the picture, Sakura didn't give two s**ts, now all of a sudden she cares? That's just bs. Kishi honestly seems to be doing this just for pairings sake. All leading up to chapter 675, Sakura didn't give much thought to Sasuke, but after he stated her feelings changed, he shows that Sakura still cares for Sasuke and what he thinks. It just makes no sense, except that he's trying to string along SS readers for as long as possible. If he does have Saukra be alone with Sasuke, he better not show the same one woman pity party and actually show some development on her behalf, with Sasuke.

 

Sorry, I just needed to get that off my chest.

[Sojobo]

I don't know how people here did understand the last chapter, but for those who're doubting about next SS moment without Naruto, here is an example how to read what happened.

 

First, you have to remember that a Kagebunshin user can't get information from his clone(s) before they explode. Very important to know in this chapter.

 

Now, let's start :

 

Obito tells Sakura and Naruto's clone to touch his body so they can jump into the other dimension.

Remember what Obito said before, this use a lot of chakra, Naruto's clone is here to give his chakra for Kamui.

 

This is Obito's trick to enter Kaguya's dimension.

 

Let's see what the real Naruto is planning :

He completely ignores Obito's plan. It's logical, cause that clone with Obito didn't dissapear yet, so he can't get information yet of what he's planning with Sakura and his clone. That's why, Naruto try to find his method for getting there, where Sasuke is supposed to be. He knows, he can sense his chakra, he's still alive.

 

Naruto: I'll look for Sasuke.

 

Real Naruto want to save Sasuke "alone".

Now, to enter Kaguya's dimension, Naruto has to force her open the gate.

Tajuu Kagebunshin is used for that.

 

Then :

Pay attention at this, it's very important.

Real Naruto says in his mind, that he's the real one, and that he will enter.

What happens next?

Kishimoto is trying to tell us that this is real Naruto, that Naruto we saw enter her dimension on page 12.

Zetsu is sure that this is his real body, and that clones aren't able to jump trought space cause they don't have enough chakra.

So Zetsu convinced Kagut to kill him, cause it's dangerous to let him stay in that place.

 

And that's when it becomes interesting.

When Kaguya returns to the Ice dimension, the clones didn't dissapear.

Wich means that Naruto tricked them and made it.

 

How? That, we don't know yet, but it's obvious that the real Naruto we saw on page 12 wasn't the Naruto that Kaguya killed.

We know that Naruto is an unpredictable ninja, so nothing surprised me.

 

Maybe a henge jutsu? I don't think that neither Zetsu, Obito, can sense tools.

This is one of Naruto's speciality, remember Zabuza's arc?

 

 

 

So, don't listen to SS fans who are expecting Sakura to be alone with Sasuke, it can happen, but it's not sure.

[Sakura~]

Correction SS has been dead since Kishi created Sakura's character. Making her the heroine and Naruto's love interest.

And created Hinata to confuse us -.-

[TouKen4Life3g]

And created Hinata to confuse us -.-

There's always a challenger.

[FireFox]

I don't know how people here did understand the last chapter, but for those who're doubting about next SS moment without Naruto, here is an example how to read what happened.

 

First, you have to remember that a Kagebunshin user can't get information from his clone(s) before they explode. Very important to know in this chapter.

 

Now, let's start :

 

Obito tells Sakura and Naruto's clone to touch his body so they can jump into the other dimension.

Remember what Obito said before, this use a lot of chakra, Naruto's clone is here to give his chakra for Kamui.

 

This is Obito's trick to enter Kaguya's dimension.

 

Let's see what the real Naruto is planning :

He completely ignores Obito's plan. It's logical, cause that clone with Obito didn't dissapear yet, so he can't get information yet of what he's planning with Sakura and his clone. That's why, Naruto try to find his method for getting there, where Sasuke is supposed to be. He knows, he can sense his chakra, he's still alive.

 

Naruto: I'll look for Sasuke.

 

Real Naruto want to save Sasuke "alone".

Now, to enter Kaguya's dimension, Naruto has to force her open the gate.

Tajuu Kagebunshin is used for that.

 

Then :

Pay attention at this, it's very important.

Real Naruto says in his mind, that he's the real one, and that he will enter.

What happens next?

Kishimoto is trying to tell us that this is real Naruto, that Naruto we saw enter her dimension on page 12.

Zetsu is sure that this is his real body, and that clones aren't able to jump trought space cause they don't have enough chakra.

So Zetsu convinced Kagut to kill him, cause it's dangerous to let him stay in that place.

 

And that's when it becomes interesting.

When Kaguya returns to the Ice dimension, the clones didn't dissapear.

Wich means that Naruto tricked them and made it.

 

How? That, we don't know yet, but it's obvious that the real Naruto we saw on page 12 wasn't the Naruto that Kaguya killed.

We know that Naruto is an unpredictable ninja, so nothing surprised me.

 

Maybe a henge jutsu? I don't think that neither Zetsu, Obito, can sense tools.

This is one of Naruto's speciality, remember Zabuza's arc?

 

 

 

So, don't listen to SS fans who are expecting Sakura to be alone with Sasuke, it can happen, but it's not sure.

That was a very good analysis and its similar to mine but Naruto definitely went in like he said he's the only who can sense where Sasuke is bc of their connection and he's going also . IMO the clone that got hit was the one that was with Obito and Sakura bc we don't see the clone with Kakashi either if that one stayed and didn't went with them  , I think that that clone made the diversion making Kaguya think that he's the real one so Obito and Sakura can hide and the real one somehow enter and change his direction to a different dimension but whether he reached Sasuke I think not and that he the real Naruto will reunite with Obito and Sakura since he's the only one who can sense where Sasuke is that is my theory  . 

 

Either way this is done so this whole scene and rescuing Sasuke to look complicated and not to easy since that is how Kishimoto operates imo.

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 11 July 2014 - 08:41 PM.

[natalieuciha]

I don't know how people here did understand the last chapter, but for those who're doubting about next SS moment without Naruto, here is an example how to read what happened.

 

First, you have to remember that a Kagebunshin user can't get information from his clone(s) before they explode. Very important to know in this chapter.

 

Now, let's start :

 

Obito tells Sakura and Naruto's clone to touch his body so they can jump into the other dimension.

Remember what Obito said before, this use a lot of chakra, Naruto's clone is here to give his chakra for Kamui.

 

This is Obito's trick to enter Kaguya's dimension.

 

Let's see what the real Naruto is planning :

He completely ignores Obito's plan. It's logical, cause that clone with Obito didn't dissapear yet, so he can't get information yet of what he's planning with Sakura and his clone. That's why, Naruto try to find his method for getting there, where Sasuke is supposed to be. He knows, he can sense his chakra, he's still alive.

 

Naruto: I'll look for Sasuke.

 

Real Naruto want to save Sasuke "alone".

Now, to enter Kaguya's dimension, Naruto has to force her open the gate.

Tajuu Kagebunshin is used for that.

 

Then :

Pay attention at this, it's very important.

Real Naruto says in his mind, that he's the real one, and that he will enter.

What happens next?

Kishimoto is trying to tell us that this is real Naruto, that Naruto we saw enter her dimension on page 12.

Zetsu is sure that this is his real body, and that clones aren't able to jump trought space cause they don't have enough chakra.

So Zetsu convinced Kagut to kill him, cause it's dangerous to let him stay in that place.

 

And that's when it becomes interesting.

When Kaguya returns to the Ice dimension, the clones didn't dissapear.

Wich means that Naruto tricked them and made it.

 

How? That, we don't know yet, but it's obvious that the real Naruto we saw on page 12 wasn't the Naruto that Kaguya killed.

We know that Naruto is an unpredictable ninja, so nothing surprised me.

 

Maybe a henge jutsu? I don't think that neither Zetsu, Obito, can sense tools.

This is one of Naruto's speciality, remember Zabuza's arc?

 

 

 

So, don't listen to SS fans who are expecting Sakura to be alone with Sasuke, it can happen, but it's not sure.

so i still dont get something..sry im kinda slow...is real naruto in that special dimension which BS mentioned that can connect to other dimensions?or where is he?will sakura and obito need to go in that dimension first,and only from there to go to sasuke's?or are they already there?this manga panels are so confusing

Edited by natalieuciha, 11 July 2014 - 08:52 PM.

[Gojira]

then why are so many crazy people so strongly believing it still has chance?...i tell you why..as long as the characters dont say with their own mouth that they gave up on somebody or love somebody else then they still can happen by some magic asspull..personaly i think kishi can pull this kitten out of his ass if he is persuaded by the editors or by popularity ..honestly i dont trust kishi at all..but still sasusaku has like 20 % chance of happening 

 

Because they're under the false impression that Sasuke cares about anyone else but himself.

 

First and foremost Naruto is going to end up with somebody by the end of the series we know this from the RTN interview (unless Kishi meant that Naruto adopts someone). The only candidates so far is Hinata and Sakura. There has been NS hints and moments everywhere starting from Part 2, meanwhile Hinata is only in the story to get her character resolved (admitting her love,gaining confidence etc.) NH is one-sided, NS isn't they both have feelings for each other and both acknowledge that they have them. Making NS not canon would be Kishi contradicting himself many times over because aside from the build-up, parallels and blessings from both sides parents there literally is no reason for him to make Sakura fall in love with Naruto, while falling out of love with Sasuke and even acknowledge that Naruto is better for her. Sakura is too smart and mature to stick with a bad apple like Sasuke that's Karin's job. 

 

Besides from what I hear NS is over twice as popular as SS is in Japan, so that helps. RTN got great reception and did pretty well at the B.O. despite that being very pro NS and anti SS/NH so there you have it.

[六道仙人]

The situation is simple. First, we have to point out two things here:
1)The ORIGINAL Naruto is only one, and it's the one who has the black balls behind himself. There's only ONE and that's him.
2)The Naruto o Narutos who don't have any black balls behind are nothing but Kage Bunshin. You can see that not only in this chapter but also in the previous chapters, you can also go to rewatch the previous chapters and you will realize that. Naruto clones don't have the black balls. It's a way from the author to tell us that the original one is easily identifiable for a reader.
Now, Sojobo's post has a point but it's important to make a little but big difference here.
Kishimoto puts two different types of deception, one falied and the other with an uncertain status.

Let's see this image:



I have already explained in that image itself. There's no doubt, those Naruto aren't the same person. The first deception from the author, the one who has failed, is here: Kishimoto tried to fool the reader into believing those two Narutos were the same person. But a careful reader would have already realized that the real one has the black balls. And given how many time this thing has pointed out in the previous chapters (that the original one distinguishes himself by having the black balls), I highly doubt that could be just a simple oversight on an artistic level. At the end of the story, this is a failed deception that a good and attentive reader can avoid easily.

The other deception is the Naruto clone who is close to Obito and Sakura. The plan was that he had to place his hand on the Obito's shoulder in order to travel with him in the space-time dimension. The point is: For what purpose?
Obito said that the chakra of Naruto clone isn't enough. Probably he would only serve as a kinda batter charger for Obito's Kamui about the journey to the Kaguya's space-time world. But if that clone was clone to Obito, then the clone that we have seen on page 12, the one who was going to follow Kaguya while she was telporting, what was doing precisely? Just  following the original plan or did just on his own? Or simply it was always the same clone?  If it was not the same clone, then there's one thing: If the clone who was close to Obito did remain with him and his hand on his shoulder, then a different clone followed Kaguya and killed by her. If the words of Original Naruto aren't a sort of deception from the author ("I, the original one, go!"), then it's possible that he was able to enter into the Kaguya's world in some way.
Black Zetsu said that he felt two more chakra in that world. We all thought that those were Obito and Sakura, who are immediately hidden in the Kamui world. But its possible that these two weren't Obito and Sakura but two other Narutos? One was the clone that has accompained Obito and Sakura during the teleport by giving his chakra, the other is the original one and now is hiding somewhere.

Also because I wonder how would Sakura and Obito, alone, to find Sasuke in some different worlds.... They don't know where he is, Naruto does.

[Gravenimage]

Sakura@ wrong Kishi created Hinata for the third member of team 8, when he originally created her to be a civilian not a ninja nothing to confusd. Hinata has absolutely nothing to do with pairings.

[narusakurama]

= ''lt

don't know how people here did understand the last chapter, but for those who're doubting about next SS moment without Naruto, here is an example how to read what happened.

 

First, you have to remember that a Kagebunshin user can't get information from his clone(s) before they explode. Very important to know in this chapter.

 

Now, let's start :

 

Obito tells Sakura and Naruto's clone to touch his body so they can jump into the other dimension.

Remember what Obito said before, this use a lot of chakra, Naruto's clone is here to give his chakra for Kamui.

 

This is Obito's trick to enter Kaguya's dimension.

 

Let's see what the real Naruto is planning :

He completely ignores Obito's plan. It's logical, cause that clone with Obito didn't dissapear yet, so he can't get information yet of what he's planning with Sakura and his clone. That's why, Naruto try to find his method for getting there, where Sasuke is supposed to be. He knows, he can sense his chakra, he's still alive.

 

Naruto: I'll look for Sasuke.

 

Real Naruto want to save Sasuke "alone".

Now, to enter Kaguya's dimension, Naruto has to force her open the gate.

Tajuu Kagebunshin is used for that.

 

Then :

Pay attention at this, it's very important.

Real Naruto says in his mind, that he's the real one, and that he will enter.

What happens next?

Kishimoto is trying to tell us that this is real Naruto, that Naruto we saw enter her dimension on page 12.

Zetsu is sure that this is his real body, and that clones aren't able to jump trought space cause they don't have enough chakra.

So Zetsu convinced Kagut to kill him, cause it's dangerous to let him stay in that place.

 

And that's when it becomes interesting.

When Kaguya returns to the Ice dimension, the clones didn't dissapear.

Wich means that Naruto tricked them and made it.

 

How? That, we don't know yet, but it's obvious that the real Naruto we saw on page 12 wasn't the Naruto that Kaguya killed.

We know that Naruto is an unpredictable ninja, so nothing surprised me.

 

Maybe a henge jutsu? I don't think that neither Zetsu, Obito, can sense tools.

This is one of Naruto's speciality, remember Zabuza's arc?

 

 

 

So, don't listen to SS fans who are expecting Sakura to be alone with Sasuke, it can happen, but it's not sure.

 

Ah very nice catch with the memories from the clone. So the real Naruto , wherever he may be , now knows everything Obito , Sakura and Kakashi talked so he now knows exactly where they are and that they are also planning to go to Sasuke

[Sakura~]

 

Because they're under the false impression that Sasuke cares about anyone else but himself.

 

First and foremost Naruto is going to end up with somebody by the end of the series we know this from the RTN interview (unless Kishi meant that Naruto adopts someone). The only candidates so far is Hinata and Sakura. There has been NS hints and moments everywhere starting from Part 2, meanwhile Hinata is only in the story to get her character resolved (admitting her love,gaining confidence etc.) NH is one-sided, NS isn't they both have feelings for each other and both acknowledge that they have them. Making NS not canon would be Kishi contradicting himself many times over because aside from the build-up, parallels and blessings from both sides parents there literally is no reason for him to make Sakura fall in love with Naruto, while falling out of love with Sasuke and even acknowledge that Naruto is better for her. Sakura is too smart and mature to stick with a bad apple like Sasuke that's Karin's job. 

 

Besides from what I hear NS is over twice as popular as SS is in Japan, so that helps. RTN got great reception and did pretty well at the B.O. despite that being very pro NS and anti SS/NH so there you have it.

its a bit of a stretch, but what if Sasuke magically started loving Sakura? 

[Gojira]

its a bit of a stretch, but what if Sasuke magically started loving Sakura? 

It wouldn't really harm NS' chances all that much at this point anyway.

 

RTN, Sasuke had an interest in Sakura and yet the person she still spent more time with and was thinking about was Naruto. An example is when she was eating food, looking at the flower Sasuke gave her and the first thing that comes to her head is how Naruto is doing. Even if Sasuke does magically fall in love with Sakura, and she forgives him for everything and falls back in love with him, she'd still likely spend more time with Naruto anyway because they're just that close.

[TouKen4Life3g]

its a bit of a stretch, but what if Sasuke magically started loving Sakura? 

Then pigs can fly. Who knew.

[Sakura~]

@Pepsi .. are you sure NS is the most popular in Japan? because from what I hear SS is extremely popular in Japan.