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#341 harry4e

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:34 PM

So quick pole, how are SasuSaku fans going to paint Sakura's thoughts in favour of their pairing?

 

1) He tried to save her but Naruto got to her first.

 

2) He's being a Tsundere, it's how he shows his love.

 

3) It's how he shows his love, the more grunts he makes the more he cares.

 

4) Wait till the Raws/Viz versions come out you'll see what she really said was Sasuke really cares...stupid MP

 

Add you own suggestionss.

 

I don't care if you are a NaruSaku, NaruHina or SasuSaku fan, nobody can still defend Sakura being paired with him, She is a medic who's job is to save lives, and she deserves better than someone who is willing to go through a her to get to the opponant.

 

What Sakura did was stupid, Kishi doesn't need to drive the point that she needs to prove she's caught up with the other two....Let her look within herself, and realise that in three years she's gone from being the weakest member of her graduation class to coming close to reaching the Hokages power all without any super strong Genes,  She was like her Sensie a genius son of a Genius shinobi who was considered for Hokage, A member of the elite clan who are decendants of the Sage, orthe other member who is also a member of a elite clan who are decendents of the Sage and also the son of the Hokage.

 

Sakura has achieved all this on her own back, she didn't have a clan to back her up, she managed to stand out when her entire graduation class consisted of children of Clan leaders. This is twice he's done this too her...Look how strong she's become, look she needs saving again...kitten that. He talks about Teamwork one chapter and next chapter completely out of the window.

 

What's with Madara's stupid level of power-ups...It's like Yeah Naruto and Sasuke were struggling with Madara with one Rinnigan, but you know what lets have him power up even more...what the heck lets power him up again, oh what the heck lets do it a third time.

 

Edit: WTF 18 pages already?


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:35 PM

Yeah, but that would be an easy win. Not that I'm complaining. Lol.

You know, it almost feels like Kishi's plan is to have Sakura to see that even saving him from darkness, perhaps bringing him back to them isn't a good idea. Like I don't think it's about romance at this point. I mean if it is, then so be it, but it almost seem like Kishi is purposely showing that chemistry don't last forever. It's like the comfortability level isn't there anymore. I don't know but I do hope by the end of the war, I'll know the story behind it.

i have been saying this for a very very  long time T7 are not gonna be a team again and this becomes more and more obvious also what Sakura wanted in the Kage summit arc was for every member to be happy but that does not mean that T7 will be together again just that they will settle their differences accept each other that they once were a T7 and move on with their lives Sasuke with Taka and NS being together . Also i agree this was not about romance i think 675 confirmed that for us its more about T7 now and their chemistry Kishi has been very consistent with showing it that they just don't work as a team the dynamic of T7 is always NaruSasu and NS and , like i said imo after the NaruSasu fight they are parting on good therms imo.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:35 PM

Madara waited in a lot of occasions he would've waited for Sakura to come with a plan.


He surely did not wait when trying to impale Sakura with a black rod last chapter.
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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:36 PM

He surely did not wait when trying to impale Sakura with a black rod last chapter.

Because she charged on him...
Before that he was doing nothing and looking at Naruto.

And problably was going to answer Kakashi's question when he asked Madara if he got the rinnegans.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:39 PM

I for one was disappointed . The part where Sakura unleashes the seal and attacks Madara , that was awesome ,  but I got the impression  that it was done just to put her down and  show that she still has not caught up to Naruto and Sasuke . For future chapters , this can either be used as an excuse to remove her from the fight , or it is also possible that it will be used for her to get , finally , some new power up that would bring her to their level .

 

As for Sasuke cutting Sakura in two , I think we get that impression because we can  not see Madara's shadows in that panel , which is likely what he was aiming for . Same way Naruto seems to kick in empty air when he saves Sakura , though it's clear that he kicked one of the shadows .

 

I think on the contrary Kishimoto did it like that to show that Sakura too can be like Naruto or Sasuke, trying something on her own or charging front.

I also think it was to show her overcome her fear of Madara.

She made the first move. She never did that before with Naruto and Sasuke. She was always following their path or their plans. She was always on the sidelines.

I think Kishimoto made her charge front and create an opening to show a difference.

It's not to put her down. It's to make her character step up on the contrary.

But yet, people will not understand it... it's sad.

 

I don't think Kishimoto is searching for "excuses" to put her out of it.

He just respect her character for who she is (he created her like that, she's a normal girl to begin with).

She is not as powerful as Naruto and Sasuke, that's all.

 

And about Sasuke and his attack, it's true he aimed at the shadow, but Sakura was just between the sword and the shadow. I've re-read many times, and this is it. I think he might have cut through her without caring at all.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:39 PM

Because she charged on him...Before that he was doing nothing and looking at Naruto.And problably was going to answer Kakashi's question when he asked Madara if he got the rinnegans.

I'm talking about what happened in the Kamui dimension last chapter.

Madara going to answer Kakashi's question is a what-if. We're not sure about that.
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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:40 PM

Well we know everyone's gonna be entering into dreamland now and that it revolves around what they want the most.

 

Likely Sakrua's dream will be her having a relationship with Sasuke. And for me this could either end in a good way or a bad way

 

The good scenario:

 

She realizes she isn't happy with her relationship with Sasuke and preferred Naruto this whole time

 

The bad scenario:

 

She rejects the dream because she wants the real Sasuke by her side and not the fake

 

Either way we know SS fans are going to go rabid over any scraps Kishi will throw them.

 

Naruto's dream will likely be him as hokage with Kushina, Minato and Jiraiya still alive

 

Sasuke's dream will likely be everyone in his clan still alive including his brother and uchiha are the most respected clan in the village (even though they were before....I guess they could be even more respected, like borderline worshipped or some kitten)

 

Kakashi's dream will likely be Team Minato living peaceful lives in the village


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:42 PM

I'm talking about what happened in the Kamui dimension last chapter.

Madara going to answer Kakashi's question is a what-if. We're not sure about that.

It's impossible to argue against that because are different scenarions, Naruto Sasuke Sakura Kakashi were on team formation and Madara was doing nothing.

Sakura was going to destroy the rinnegan and he throw that rod to prevent her, Obito send her to the other dimension.
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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:42 PM

It would have look bad if Sakura did get stabbed and that's it. The point was distraction, but man, Sasuke did a new way of taking a chance. If not, the idea of limbo being activated was due to this moment because play time is over for Madara. For once, he's thinking smart to go up there and do the plan, rather than keep fighting. About time someone actually do the plan first. Anyway, when it comes down to it, no one got hurt bad. The main problem now is the plan will happen whether they're dying or not.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:44 PM

That was something i notice too, her desire to be part of it, but however the powerup is a problem to her, she doesnt have strenght to fight against an opponent like Madara so it's something she needs to accept or get a powerup, Sakura is at odds with the current standing between Naruto and Sasuke, they are already way too strong for her to caught up, she thought she had caught up with them but Naruto and Sasuke got a massive powerup just after that and Sakura got none.

It all depends on Kishi but i think he will give her a power up in therms of genjutsu but SSM i'm not so sure that he will do it now but if he does it certainly wouldn't bother me besides maybe Naruto will boost her up give her that chakra cloak or something else . But for now i'm just patient we will see how things will go from now on they just started fighting i don't think he will pull her back .


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:50 PM

You know on the the subject of complementing Sakura for her actions........... Well While I DID admire her efforts, I can't call charging in the best course of action,and to say otherwise would be yet throwing another double standard to Hinata fans that that praised her when she charged in to attack Pein. Just keep that double standard in mind before you start OVER-FLATTERING Sakura. Once again It's not that I don't enjoy it because I love how badass Sakura looked here,but it is not different from the Hinata scenario which a lot of you were saying was a pretty stupid move. Remember these rods turn things into nothingness so I think a few more seconds would have been bad.

 

I don't agree with that.

Hinata had no power to protect herself back then.

Sakura charged because she knew she wouldn't die with Byakugo.

 

This is not stupid at all.

 

Moreover, I think Kishi made her create an opening on purpose. Like I said before, it's the first time she's doing something like that.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:52 PM

It's impossible to argue against that because are different scenarions, Naruto Sasuke Sakura Kakashi were on team formation and Madara was doing nothing.Sakura was going to destroy the rinnegan and he throw that rod to prevent her, Obito send her to the other dimension.

Madara just arrived. You don't know whether he was going to attack team 7 0.02 seconds later or be gentlemanly enough to wait for them to make a strategy discussion. What Madara would do next are all assumptions.

I can easily point out the similarities of the two scenarios. Last chapter, Sakura was in the way of getting the Rinnegan and he has to attack her to reach his purpose. This chapter, team seven is in the way of him fulfilling the Infinte Tsukuyomi and he has to attack them to fulfill his purpose.

All, I'm saying is we can't predict Madara's actions (especially with all this super haxx asspulls he have) 100% and we don't know what he is going to do or what else he can do. Unless, you're going to say that you know perfectly well what Madara is going to do and state it as a fact.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:53 PM

Oh. My. GOD. YES! kitten YES!!  FINALLY she gets it. After 675 chapters she finally understands; she finally acknowledges the fact that Uchiha Sasuke has never given a single kitten about her (And yes, I know this statement is false, but let's pretend the few instances where Sasuke did save her ass never happened, just this once). THIS is what I needed, not that ambiguous piece of kitten that is Kakashi's inner thought. When it comes to pairing moments, in particular, I do not give a crap about these outside sources. I only care about what Naruto and Sakura are thinking and feeling. The previous chapter pissed me of so bad (in a number of ways), I thought about doing a rant, but I'm so glad I held off. This is what I needed. 

 

Only one thing I didn't like in this amazing, beautiful chapter, that one thing Sakura did. Gonna be blunt here; simply a dumbass, heat-of-the-moment move by Sakura. I mean, really? This is the same guy that annihilated the Gokage. The same guy that summoned freakin meteors on the SA. The same dude that fodderized 9 bijuu + 2 jinchuuriki, without EYES. No type of communication with your teammates. No type of planning, just balls-out, huh. Oh Kishi. Her haters will have a field day with this one.

 

Haters always find a way to bash her. Kishi wanted to do well with her character with that


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:01 PM

Can I add something?

Do you remember when everyone started fighting the Ten-Tails clones and Sakura jumped ahead? Sasuke jumped in and took out the ones about to attack Sakura (as did Naruto.) Many people then said "Oh wow, Sasuke cares about Sakura and saved her. SS is canonz." Notice how this chapter had a similar set-up? Almost word for word where Sakura dashes in first, then Naruto and Sasuke follow with Sasuke reacting first.

Anyone notice that?

Okay, my reason for bringing this up is that like I said, people back then took that as Sasuke caring so much for Sakura and it actually made Sakura smile because she thought they were a real team again. Now a similar situation occurs and Sasuke was literally willing to go through Sakura instead of around her. That's the whole point of Sakura's reaction and why Naruto had to grab her. It just proves that even back at that chapter Sasuke didn't care. He still doesn't. He only sees opportunities, not friends.

Yeah, Sakura probably would have been fine and just regenerated from the attack, but that's not the point of it. You don't use your teammates as shields and it makes you lower than trash. That is basically the same as abandoning them. The principle of the situation is that Sasuke just didn't even care. He didn't care about Sakura's well-being and figured "Oooh, opportunity."

No, seriously, put yourself in Sakura's situation. Would you think he was being a good friend or teammate?

Plus, Sasuke didn't know that Tsunade's technique regenerates from any injury He never saw that technique occur, so how could he know that Sakura would have been fine? He wouldn't. he just saw achance to strike and was the first to literally take advantage of that.

"Sasuke reacted first." Yeah, which means he was reckless not like Naruto who wanted Sakura to wait and cared about her safety being a distraction. Sasuke didn't try and stop her knowing that she doesn't know anything. He didn't care.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:02 PM

I must admit that Sakura's naivety when it comes to Sasuke is highly annoying. It took her all of this time to realize that Sasuke doesn't care about her even when the guy tried to take her life. Obviously he doesn't care about you if he tried to kill you, right Sakura?  :roll: Someone needs to write Kishimoto a letter in Japanese and inform him that girls are not as dense as he believes us to be. 

 

After I read that line over, it sort of pissed me off. 


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:03 PM

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Poor baby, just look at that sad face. This girl just can't seem to catch an emotional break. Why the kitten does Kishi keep doing this to her?!

 

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Because she's a kind girl and she will always care about her former nakama.

That's basically what the previous chapter said to us...


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:03 PM

 

Haters always find a way to bash her. Kishi wanted to do well with her character with that

kitten all the haters what she did was impressive she was still able to move even after being pierced  by that black paralyzing rod that Hashirama and Tobirama had stick in their asses and yet she was still able to move and throw a punch and she deserves credit for that .


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:06 PM

Can I add something?

Do you remember when everyone started fighting the Ten-Tails clones and Sakura jumped ahead? Sasuke jumped in and took out the ones about attack Sakura (as as Naruto.) Many people then said "Oh wow, Sasuke cares about Sakura and saved her. SS is canonz." Notice how this chapter had a similar set-up? Almost word for word where Sakura dashes in first, then Naruto and Sasuke follow with Sasuke reacting first.

Anyone notice that?

Okay, my reason for bringing this up is that like I said, people back then took that as Sasuke caring so much for Sakura and it actually made Sakura smile because she thought they were a real team again. Now a similar situation occurs and Sasuke was literally willing to go through Sakura instead of around her. That's the whole point of Sakura's reaction and why Naruto had to grab her. It just proves that even back at that chapter Sasuke didn't care. He still doesn't. He only sees opportunities, not friends.

Yeah, Sakura probably would have been fine and just regenerated from the attack, but that's not the point of it. You don't use your teammates as shields and it makes them lower than trash. That is basically the same as abandoning them. The principle of the situation is that Sasuke just didn't even care. He didn;t care about Sakura's well-being and figured "Oooh, opportunity."

No, seriously, put yourself in Sakura's situation. Would you think he was being a good friend or teammate?

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:08 PM

LOL @ the difference in translation this week in MP and MS/

 

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/676/5

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/676/6

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http://readms.com/r/naruto/676/2373/7

 

Mangapanda talks about her catching up to them,  and then next page I won''t fall behind again, which makes sense..Mangastream says she's finally managed to bring the two together, and then next page, I won't let them fall apart again, I bet NaruSasu fans collapsed from excitement at MS's translation...seriously I how can two translations be so different, I want to beleive Mangastreams translation more because that actually lends strongly to what I've thought for a while now and that is Sakura doesn't want to bring Sasuke back for herself but for Naruto, she wants to reunite Naruto with his brother so he wouldn't be troubled so much by it. Ultimately it shows how much she cares for Naruto and thinks about him first before she thinks about herself.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:08 PM

 

Because she's a kind girl and she will always care about her former nakama.

That's basically what the previous chapter said to us...

 

GET OVER IT, SAKURA.  :hm:

 

You should've known Sasuke didn't care about you when he tried to make a peg dispenser out of your ass! You're intelligent medicinally, but when it comes to actual romance, Kishimoto makes you out to be a jackass. 

 

Seriously, love makes a fool out of this girl.


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