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[Luna]

It's really pathetic how many anti-Sakura fans swarm to his videos and I'm sure you know why lol.

Bees cannot go anywhere without it's queen. Right? LOL

[TouKen4Life3g]

Not possible, Madara will get his rinnegan back guaranteed.

Well, let's say what if question rather than an ideal of what's to come. Just saying, what if it does happen. That would be ironic.

[FireFox]

One scary thought. What if Obito jumps in and his left eye takes the hit?

You know i was actually thinking about it ever since i saw that page that would be hilarious    

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 24 April 2014 - 11:45 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I van imagine an insane agony from Obito and Sakura would be "Um, thanks...for saving me..."

[FireFox]

^Yeah and then Obito would be like " I couldn't let you die this time RIN!" 

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 25 April 2014 - 12:08 AM.

[shisui]

Sakura needs to defend herself for a bit, but I'm not so against her being saved after that. Madara is in a whole new level and he just raped Kakashi in a single panel.

 

The Kamui portal is still open last time we seen it. Technically, Sasuke can go inside by hitching a ride in the jutsu's tailcoats. Saving Sakura would make up for Iron Country and make her trust on him again. I know nobody here likes the idea of them making peace with each other, but not expecting them to is a ridiculous fantasy, they are important to each other.

 

Also, before I'm called a SS fan again, I'll remind you why this is good for NaruSaku. Sakura will choose between them on equal grounds and there won't be any sillyness like SasuSaku didn't become canon because of technicalities like if he had never left, or if he had never became evil, or if he had never tried to kill her. No, it needs to be flawless. I don't understand why some are so against the idea. It feels like insecurity to me, giving him this kind of threat power he doesn't deserve.

 

I don't believe that Naruto could use FTG to get inside Kamui, because Obito doesn't have a mark anymore. But, I was thinking... the Madara clone and the real Madara were said to join together after a little while... Could it be that Naruto latches in some way on Limbo Madara just as he is about to join real Madara? This would transfer Naruto into the Kamui dimension to save Sakura. Let's say that decision to join bunshin and real Madara comes after Sakura proves to be a good threat. That would be great.

 

I don't want anything with Obito. You people want him to help her because of parallels, but he's a nobody to her, and parallels don't matter in the face of development. He has done enough kitten and he has redeemed himself by saving Naruto. Sasuke and Naruto are her teammates, not Obito. Think of her for a moment. What's best for her, not what's best for Obito.

Edited by GoogleIsMyFriend, 25 April 2014 - 12:37 AM.

[AzureWaters]

Also, before I'm called a SS fan again, I'll remind you why this is good for NaruSaku. Sakura will choose between them on equal grounds and there won't be any sillyness like SasuSaku didn't become canon because of technicalities like if he had never left, or if he had never became evil, or if he had never tried to kill her. No, it needs to be flawless. I don't understand why some are so against the idea. It feels like insecurity to me, giving him this kind of threat power he doesn't deserve.

 

DiD scenarios have the potential to look like pairing moments. No doubt many people would take Sasuke rescuing Sakura as some kind of romantic gesture, and that's the issue. I'd rather it not happen at all since its way too risky.
 

[luffyq1]

Sakura needs to defend herself for a bit, but I'm not so against her being saved after that. Madara is in a whole new level and he just raped Kakashi in a single panel.

 

The Kamui portal is still open last time we seen it. Technically, Sasuke can go inside by hitching a ride in the jutsu's tailcoats. Saving Sakura would make up for Iron Country and make her trust on him again. I know nobody here likes the idea of them making peace with each other, but not expecting them to is a ridiculous fantasy, they are important to each other.

 

Also, before I'm called a SS fan again, I'll remind you why this is good for NaruSaku. Sakura will choose between them on equal grounds and there won't be any sillyness like SasuSaku didn't become canon because of technicalities like if he had never left, or if he had never became evil, or if he had never tried to kill her. No, it needs to be flawless. I don't understand why some are so against the idea. It feels like insecurity to me, giving him this kind of threat power he doesn't deserve.

Flawless.

[FireFox]

Sakura needs to defend herself for a bit, but I'm not so against her being saved after that. Madara is in a whole new level and he just raped Kakashi in a single panel.

 

The Kamui portal is still open last time we seen it. Technically, Sasuke can go inside by hitching a ride in the jutsu's tailcoats. Saving Sakura would make up for Iron Country and make her trust on him again. I know nobody here likes the idea of them making peace with each other, but not expecting them to is a ridiculous fantasy, they are important to each other.

 

Or he can just genuinely apologize to her and Naruto you know like he did to Karin there is no reason to portrait him like her "knight in shine armor" when he's clearly not that's one of the reasons why so many don't like this idea . And how is saving her from someone makes up for what he did to her ? Sasuke's in this war for his one ambitions and clearly stated that he doesn't care what anyone thinks of him and he already "saved" her along with Naruto yet that didn't make Sakura trust him  and he still didn't care about her or anyone else only his goal . Also Sasuke is about to stab Naruto in the back after this war is finished and yet she is supposed to  trust him now  ? That doesn't make sense .  But the only reason i answered to your post was because of the bolded part i never really understand that excuse .

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 25 April 2014 - 01:18 AM.

[ramenanmitsu]

Sakura needs to defend herself for a bit, but I'm not so against her being saved after that. Madara is in a whole new level and he just raped Kakashi in a single panel.

 

The Kamui portal is still open last time we seen it. Technically, Sasuke can go inside by hitching a ride in the jutsu's tailcoats. Saving Sakura would make up for Iron Country and make her trust on him again. I know nobody here likes the idea of them making peace with each other, but not expecting them to is a ridiculous fantasy, they are important to each other.

 

Also, before I'm called a SS fan again, I'll remind you why this is good for NaruSaku. Sakura will choose between them on equal grounds and there won't be any sillyness like SasuSaku didn't become canon because of technicalities like if he had never left, or if he had never became evil, or if he had never tried to kill her. No, it needs to be flawless. I don't understand why some are so against the idea. It feels like insecurity to me, giving him this kind of threat power he doesn't deserve.

 

I don't believe that Naruto could use FTG to get inside Kamui, because Obito doesn't have a mark anymore. But, I was thinking... the Madara clone and the real Madara were said to join together after a little while... Could it be that Naruto latches in some way on Limbo Madara just as he is about to join real Madara? This would transfer Naruto into the Kamui dimension to save Sakura. Let's say that decision to join bunshin and real Madara comes after Sakura proves to be a good threat. That would be great.

 

I don't want anything with Obito. You people want him to help her because of parallels, but he's a nobody to her, and parallels don't matter in the face of development. He has done enough kitten and he has redeemed himself by saving Naruto. Sasuke and Naruto are her teammates, not Obito. Think of her for a moment. What's best for her, not what's best for Obito.

Couldn't have agreed more.

[Gojira]

One scary thought. What if Obito jumps in and his left eye takes the hit?

itd be worse if his right eye was taken out because then Sakura's only ride back is with Madara.

[shisui]

Or he can just genuinely apologize to her and Naruto you know like he did to Karin there is no reason to portrait him like her "knight in shine armor" when he's clearly not that's one of the reasons why so many don't like this idea . And how is saving her from someone makes up for what he did to her ? Sasuke's in this war for his one ambitions and clearly stated that he doesn't care what anyone thinks of him and he already "saved" her along with Naruto yet that didn't make Sakura trust him  and he still didn't care about her or anyone else only his goal . Also Sasuke is about to stab Naruto in the back after this war is finished and yet she is supposed to  trust him now  ? That doesn't make sense .  But the only reason i answered to your post was because of the bolded part i never really understand that excuse .

 

Karin is not Sakura. Karin is someone Sasuke choose because of her powers and who he used as a tool, just like the rest of Taka. Sakura is his childhood acquaintance and someone who poured years of dedication to help him. An apology, especially a poor apology like he gave Karin, is not enough. Not for Sakura and not for Naruto. If Sasuke is supposed to be redeemed and if Team 7 is to laugh together in the end, then he needs to start making up to them.

 

Sasuke saving Sakura doesn't make her knight in shining armour. He has done horrible things to her, including trying to kill her. There is no room for him to be that anymore and saving Sakura is the least he could do after everything that happened. He never was her knight in shining armour, even when he was saving her when they were children. Naruto is her knight in shining armour. This was already established with the confession, because not all of it was Sakura lying to herself. Nothing Sasuke can do now will ever change that.

 

I agree that Sasuke's past actions are awful but that's not Kishi's opinion of him and the way he writes him. He's now half of a whole, with Naruto being the other half and both are needed for a better future, or whatever the way Hogoromo put it. You may not like him but there is no point in demonizing Sasuke, because Kishi isn't going to write that. This is shonen. Sasuke is like Vegeta. If you watched DBZ, you know what I mean with this. Vegeta also did horrible things, but in the end he also had to do go things to be redeemed.

 

I don't want to talk about Sasuke. He gives me a headache. What about the two Madaras merging and Naruto getting into Kamui this way? Any takers?

Edited by GoogleIsMyFriend, 25 April 2014 - 01:45 AM.

[ramenanmitsu]

Or he can just genuinely apologize to her and Naruto you know like he did to Karin there is no reason to portrait him like her "knight in shine armor" when he's clearly not that's one of the reasons why so many don't like this idea . And how is saving her from someone makes up for what he did to her ? Sasuke's in this war for his one ambitions and clearly stated that he doesn't care what anyone thinks of him and he already "saved" her along with Naruto yet that didn't make Sakura trust him  and he still didn't care about her or anyone else only his goal . Also Sasuke is about to stab Naruto in the back after this war is finished and yet she is supposed to  trust him now  ? That doesn't make sense .  But the only reason i answered to your post was because of the bolded part i never really understand that excuse .

 

The point is not to show Sasuke as a "knight in shining armor" but an ally that can be trusted again. 

 

If apologies were enough to warrant forgiveness and trust, we don't need justice. "Hey, I killed your father. Sorry about that." "No prob, apologies accepted." That would be pathetic. (This is one of the reasons why I view Karin as one of the most pathetic characters in the Naruto-verse.) 

 

Actions speak louder than words. All the people who had done evil deeds in the Naruto-verse had taken actions to almost nullify the bad effects. 

-After Gaara and his team had attacked Konoha, they repaid by protecting them against the sound 4. 

-After Chiyo had taken part in planting a Bijuu in Gaara, she repaid her past mistakes by reviving him. 

-After Nagato had killed all the Konoha Citizens, he repaid his past mistakes by reviving them. 

 

If Sasuke takes the risk to protect Sakura, it doesn't necessarily make his past mistakes go away, but it does make him more believable as an ally. 

 

And you gave a good point that he already protected Sakura in Chapter 632. In my opinion, Sakura didn't need protection at that moment, and even if Naruto and Sasuke didn't interfere she would have been fine herself/Naruto could have protected her without Sasuke. That is why I think the seriousness of that situation is incomparable to this one. That moment was to show that they were fighting back to back as a team. But this is only my opinion. Take it with a grain of salt. 

 

Edit: I don't think this scenario will happen. But I think it would be good if it did. 

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 25 April 2014 - 02:02 AM.

[rocci]

Sasuke jutsu is a combination of blink and nether swap.

@google
Would not happen. If sasuke somehow enter kamui dimension, he will finish off madara rather than save sakura. Sakura will save either by herself or obito. One thing for sure madara will gain his left eye back and maybe bz would absorb by madara.

[AzureWaters]

Sasuke jutsu is a combination of blink and nether swap.

@google
Would not happen. If sasuke somehow enter kamui dimension, he will finish off madara rather than save sakura. Sakura will save either by herself or obito. One thing for sure madara will gain his left eye back and maybe bz would absorb by madara.

Actually Sasuke saving Sakura would not effect any skirmish with Madara. He would arrive and simply get rid of the rod being thrown at her.

[rocci]

@azure
Finish off madara is sasuke priority and obito almost lose bz control.

[Otaru]

Sakura needs to defend herself for a bit, but I'm not so against her being saved after that. Madara is in a whole new level and he just raped Kakashi in a single panel.

 

The Kamui portal is still open last time we seen it. Technically, Sasuke can go inside by hitching a ride in the jutsu's tailcoats. Saving Sakura would make up for Iron Country and make her trust on him again. I know nobody here likes the idea of them making peace with each other, but not expecting them to is a ridiculous fantasy, they are important to each other.

 

Also, before I'm called a SS fan again, I'll remind you why this is good for NaruSaku. Sakura will choose between them on equal grounds and there won't be any sillyness like SasuSaku didn't become canon because of technicalities like if he had never left, or if he had never became evil, or if he had never tried to kill her. No, it needs to be flawless. I don't understand why some are so against the idea. It feels like insecurity to me, giving him this kind of threat power he doesn't deserve.

 

 

I agree so much with that

Edited by Otaru, 25 April 2014 - 02:51 AM.

[AzureWaters]

I don't really want to debate about what Sasuke would or wouldn't do. I don't even want this to happen.

But logically if Sasuke intercepted Madara's attack, it would be working towards his defeat anyway. Not sure how one is separate from the other here. 

[DattebayoXShannaro]

Sakura needs to defend herself for a bit, but I'm not so against her being saved after that. Madara is in a whole new level and he just raped Kakashi in a single panel.

 

The Kamui portal is still open last time we seen it. Technically, Sasuke can go inside by hitching a ride in the jutsu's tailcoats. Saving Sakura would make up for Iron Country and make her trust on him again. I know nobody here likes the idea of them making peace with each other, but not expecting them to is a ridiculous fantasy, they are important to each other.

 

Also, before I'm called a SS fan again, I'll remind you why this is good for NaruSaku. Sakura will choose between them on equal grounds and there won't be any sillyness like SasuSaku didn't become canon because of technicalities like if he had never left, or if he had never became evil, or if he had never tried to kill her. No, it needs to be flawless. I don't understand why some are so against the idea. It feels like insecurity to me, giving him this kind of threat power he doesn't deserve.

 

I don't believe that Naruto could use FTG to get inside Kamui, because Obito doesn't have a mark anymore. But, I was thinking... the Madara clone and the real Madara were said to join together after a little while... Could it be that Naruto latches in some way on Limbo Madara just as he is about to join real Madara? This would transfer Naruto into the Kamui dimension to save Sakura. Let's say that decision to join bunshin and real Madara comes after Sakura proves to be a good threat. That would be great.

 

I don't want anything with Obito. You people want him to help her because of parallels, but he's a nobody to her, and parallels don't matter in the face of development. He has done enough kitten and he has redeemed himself by saving Naruto. Sasuke and Naruto are her teammates, not Obito. Think of her for a moment. What's best for her, not what's best for Obito.

 

There is no portal left to cross.  As said before by someone, if there was a way to follow the user, it would have been mentioned or exploited well beforehand.  Naruto utilizing the shadow is an innovative idea.  Still, I don't think any help will come from the normal plane though.  It's just Obito and Sakura.

 

Obito already had his redemption I agree, but still, he could act on impulse.  Sakura in the long term and how this event will further along that needs considering.  I believe this isn't just to get the other eye.  Kishimoto definitely intends to do something with Sakura.  Look at the trouble with getting Yin Kurama to Naruto.  The first attempt failed, but that set up a chain of events.  First, Obito's resolution came full circle.   With that, he got the Giyuki and Shukaku chakra that Naruto was missing, and then he did the transfer.  This kind of had to happen at the expense of Minato, but I'm sure he'll get a proper resolution as well later.  In hindsight, the purpose of Naruto losing Yang Kurama was to get all nine bijuu charka.  What plot points will Madara's appearance in the Kamui world be addressed?  How will Obito be affected?  And how will Sakura be affected?  As I said before, Obito's resolution has already come full circle.  Still, it doesn't mean he won't do anything, like take the bullet for Sakura.  It's just that the major focus won't be on him hopefully. 

 

Sakura is dying for some character development.  She wants to be equals with Naruto and Sasuke.  Kishimoto has a way of showing that we can't take what the character's say as actual fact.  He brought up again Sakura's insecurities of only be able to watch both their backs.  After she got the seal, she thought she got on equal footing with them.  However, we know that once she went ahead of them to take out Juubi clones, she was in-danger, and Naruto and Sasuke had to give some support, meaning she still couldn't handle herself.  A couple of chapters later she's back on the sidelines, healing, but while she's there, Naruto and Sasuke are on the frontlines.  In the end, having the seal didn't change anything; she's still watching their backs.  While she may say she's caught up, Kishimoto is deliberately saying to us, "no, she's not their yet."  However, it doesn't change that her wanting to stand on the same level as them as equals is still her goal.  A goal that will inevitable be addressed, as she is a major character, giving her goal importance, as much as Naruto's and Sasuke's goals.  I don't believe it will end with her unable to achieve that goal.  What example will that set, when we have Naruto, who was at the bottom of the status quo to where he is now, achieving his goals step by step.  We know that he will become Hokage and that he will save Sasuke.  Those are forgone conclusions.  Fans may call him the chosen one now, and that it goes without saying he'll succeed.  However, you couldn't say those statements in the beginning, and that didn't change the fact he had to work hard to have what he has now.

 

By the same concept, Sakura will be on the same level as Naruto and Sasuke.  She is foreshadowed to surpass Tsunade.  These plot points have to be addressed.  I believe that this encounter with Madara will help further that along.  I don't think this will be just an eye grab and run situation like with Kakashi, otherwise, what was the point of Madara having to come to the kamui world himself.  I mentioned in a previous post that Black Zetsu could have just acted at the last minute, and go to Madara via kamui if that was the case.  Obito and Sakura must have a role to play in someway.  Kishimoto is very methodical, so I don't doubt this could at least take a chapter or two, again I refer to getting Yin Kurama to Naruto as an example.  Sakura could hardly breath in Madara's presence before.  This event could trigger that again, and have a resolution of Sakura facing her anxiety. 

 

Obito may very well take the bullet for Sakura next chapter.  However, that will take one-two pages.  We have 14 more at the least.  What happens next?  Obito warps her out?  That makes no sense.  The objective is to prevent Madara from getting the Rinnegan, not to save Sakura.  It's not out of the realm of possibility Sakura will feel responsible for hesitating on destroying the Rinnegan.  It's well within her character. After all, she's very self critical of herself.  Now that Madara is in their proximity, what would be the best course of action?  Getting Obito to kamui himself out (if there is not a chakra rod in him.  Well, Sakura could pull it out.).  It's too late to try to destroy it now.  Madara will just prevent it.  Obito and the Rinnegan are now safer in the normal plane, where Naruto, Sasuke, or anyone near could destroy the eye.  The best course of action is for her to act as a distraction while Obito warps himself out.  Basically, a suicide mission.  This is a likely scenario, as with the current situation.  One of the important things is that she overcomes her anxiety of Madara, enough to be able to face him.  Another thing is that this may set up something else for her.  She is a major character, and as Shadow mentioned, she needs to be around for the still current issues regarding team 7.  So, while she may not die, she could be injured or near death, like Naruto and Sasuke.  I'm not saying she'll meet the sage like them (I would rather she doesn't).  However, I do speculate she will meet with someone.  Not much is known about the Kamui world and that may help with that.  I don't know.  I just know that she is very likely to go through character development, and also gain a power-up.  She desperately needs one. 

 

Kishimoto doesn't just do things for no reason, and I don't believe he would purposefully put her in danger, just to have her be protected and move to the sidelines.  There's more to it than that.

Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 25 April 2014 - 03:21 AM.

[rocci]

@dattexshanaro
I agree with most of your post.
And what do you mean with sakura power up? I believe she will get a power up in the next arc, if you mean sakura show what the seal power than I agree, but that's not power up for me. That's display of power just like what naruto sasuke do in this chapter and before.