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[TouKen4Life3g]

 I think people are slowly realizing NaruSaku , as I have been watching videos on YouTube a bit of shippers saying NS will happen.

If the guy admits that Minato pretty much "pooped on NH," then I guess that's the case. But anyway, it's just funny that in here, 615 was a sign of apocalypse, but in NF, it was a sign of true winner. So I was getting mixed feelings. 3 weeks waiting didn't help at all.

[StriderC]

Hinata is just one of dem rookies. Lol sure, there closeness to Naruto varies but ultimately, she's no stand out. Not like some want her to be. It's always so obvious when you consider how far her reach is. There really is none. She sees Naruto and his nindo. She gets inspired and motivated by him. This is all nice and sweet but it's not something that she alone has with him considering he inspires everyone. The thing is, she'll never play that role that Sakura has played for so long. She doesn't worry about Naruto the way she does nor does she know as much. He moves Sakura in ways he doesn't move Hinata. Even with her tunnel vision and complete devotion to Naruto, Hinata doesn't compare at all. Sakura sees Naruto completely.

As for the nonsense of whether Naruto trusts Sakura or not. I'm not gonna entertain that because it's so damn stupid. Soundd like some bs an anti would say. Measuring her level of importance on a jutsu of friend powers. Lets just push aside the fact that she's currently using a jutsu herself...

[rocci]

There's a reason why we have the parallel of brother(narusasu) and the parallel of lover (NS).

[TouKen4Life3g]

There's a reason why we have the parallel of brother(narusasu) and the parallel of lover (NS).

Indeed.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

 I think people are slowly realizing NaruSaku , as I have been watching videos on YouTube a bit of shippers saying NS will happen.

 

That's probably the non-shippers.  They are the ones who are completely objective,  I once encountered a person on Youtube defending NS, after 615, and he was a non-shipper.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Hinata is just one of dem rookies. Lol sure, there closeness to Naruto varies but ultimately, she's no stand out. Not like some want her to be. It's always so obvious when you consider how far her reach is. There really is none. She sees Naruto and his nindo. She gets inspired and motivated by him. This is all nice and sweet but it's not something that she alone has with him considering he inspires everyone. The thing is, she'll never play that role that Sakura has played for so long. She doesn't worry about Naruto the way she does nor does she know as much. He moves Sakura in ways he doesn't move Hinata. Even with her tunnel vision and complete devotion to Naruto, Hinata doesn't compare at all. Sakura sees Naruto completely.

As for the nonsense of whether Naruto trusts Sakura or not. I'm not gonna entertain that because it's so damn stupid. Soundd like some bs an anti would say. Measuring her level of importance on a jutsu of friend powers. Lets just push aside the fact that she's currently using a jutsu herself...

I know but Kishi teased NH a lot on this arc when i say Nh is Hinata's feelings even on the infamous 540 chapter, while Sakura's love for Sasuke made her sad on the same chapter showed how Hinata's love for Naruto did the exactly the opposite to what happened to Sakura, she gained strenght and resolve while Sakura got depressed.

in fact there only 4 kunoichis who had this, Ino/Sakura/Karin always struggles when ti comes to Sasuke and their feelings Hinata is the only who got positive "vibes" when it comes to her feelings, i'm not saying it's going to be canon but it's understandable to see why on 615 they jumped on saying it was canon before 629 it's was Hinata, Hinata and Hinata, while Sakura was fodderized the entire arc.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 19 October 2013 - 07:01 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, there were dark times back then. I guess patience were really low at that time. I mean now, we may be at the peak again, but yeah, that time it was driving us nuts. I think we were two years in of the arc at that time.

[James S Cassidy]

LoL, okay so a lot of people think she was officially friendzoned in 631. Alright, fair enough.

 

I guess that why I am just pointing this out is because I feel that if people still think NH has a chance after this chapter, which basically points out the obvious for a third time, then I think they are officially delusional. Yeah, it is kind of bashing to say, but really it is like Sasuke and Sakura. How many times must he say "no" before people take a hint? To me this is like strike three against NH that just proves it is not going to happen. Despite 615, despite the confession and everything else, Naruto still sees Hinata as a friend. People can still be a fan of NH and I don't mind them still being one, but if I feel that if any still think it can happen at this point...well, they are going to be very disappointed.

 

As I said, I was once a Tohru x Yuki fan. Although the couple isn't canon, I still think they would make the better couple, but I still understand that officially it is not going to happen.

[TouKen4Life3g]

LoL, okay so a lot of people think she was officially friendzoned in 631. Alright, fair enough.
 
I guess that why I am just pointing this out is because I feel that if people still think NH has a chance after this chapter, which basically points out the obvious for a third time, then I think they are officially delusional. Yeah, it is kind of bashing to say, but really it is like Sasuke and Sakura. How many times must he say "no" before people take a hint? To me this is like strike three against NH that just proves it is not going to happen. Despite 615, despite the confession and everything else, Naruto still sees Hinata as a friend. People can still be a fan of NH and I don't mind them still being one, but if I feel that if any still think it can happen at this point...well, they are going to be very disappointed.
 
As I said, I was once a Tohru x Yuki fan. Although the couple isn't canon, I still think they would make the better couple, but I still understand that officially it is not going to happen.

Nailed it. I can see what you mean and really, I think this is solid as it can get from here on out. I don't even think it's a coincidence that this moment draws Obito into that imagination with no Rin but we'll see. I mean even Sasuke fills in the Kakashi part who is his best friend.

[Question22]

Sasuke: Are you gonna talk or are you gonna fight.

Obito: What do you think I am doing right now, I am using Talk No Jutsu on you guys.

Sasuke: Who the kitten invented Talk No kitten.

Obito: looks at tobirama

 

another tnj  chapter :( 

[Hanabi]

People can still be a fan of NH and I don't mind them still being one, but if I feel that if any still think it can happen at this point...well, they are going to be very disappointed.

 

As I said, I was once a Tohru x Yuki fan. Although the couple isn't canon, I still think they would make the better couple, but I still understand that officially it is not going to happen.

and some are still claiming that 631 is a mere joke..

surprised to see a furuba fan here :o i didnt ship anyone coz i knew the endgame pairing, but i went wtf reading yuki's relevation..

[James S Cassidy]

Nailed it. I can see what you mean and really, I think this is solid as it can get from here on out. I don't even think it's a coincidence that this moment draws Obito into that imagination with no Rin but we'll see. I mean even Sasuke fills in the Kakashi part who is his best friend.

 

Yeah. People may call it bashing, but I call it a revelation. You can't keep denying the facts when the manga says your wrong. Otherwise, you really will be seen as a true biased person. Like many feel as I do, I am an NS because the manga development supported it and because I like Sakura's character.

 

and some are still claiming that 631 is a mere joke..

surprised to see a furuba fan here :o i didnt ship anyone coz i knew the endgame pairing, but i went wtf reading yuki's relevation..

 

lol. Yeah. I also went WTF when reading Yuki's revelation. To me it felt like a cop-out to explain why they couldn't be together as a couple, but eh what can I do? I would prefer it went unrequited forever than that kind of story telling.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 19 October 2013 - 10:38 PM.

[Jake]

 

Sasuke: Are you gonna talk or are you gonna fight.

Obito: What do you think I am doing right now, I am using Talk No Jutsu on you guys.

Sasuke: Who the kitten invented Talk No bullsh**.

Obito: looks at tobirama

 

Funny but I have a feeling that it would've been Hashirama who created Talk no Jutsu.

[sushi.]

I have to ask, how many think this actually officially declares "Naruto friendzones Hinata?"

Not really. I don't get why people say Hinata was friendzoned in *insert chapter name*.

 

He never considered her romanticly, he has never questioned the possibility of romance between them. That's why I don't think he has put her in any zone.

 

I also don't think this proves what Naruto thinks of his comrades. He didn't exlude Sakura because she is more than a friend to him, but if Kishimoto used it as a literary device, we don't know.

[James S Cassidy]

Not really. I don't get why people say Hinata was friendzoned in *insert chapter name*.

 

He never considered her romanticly, he has never questioned the possibility of romance between them. That's why I don't think he has put her in any zone.

 

I also don't think this proves what Naruto thinks of his comrades. He didn't exlude Sakura because she is more than a friend to him, but if Kishimoto used it as a literary device, we don't know.

 

lol. That's what it kind of means to be "friendzoned." The problem with the "what proves or does not prove" is kind of a weird stance to take at times. Honestly, when can you say something is or is not what it should be? For example you said: "He didn't exclude Sakura because she is more than a friend to him." Well, honestly, how can you really say that this is what that chapter was about? Or so an argument might come up from another fandom source.

 

The chapter alone does not make what is, but the considering the fact that everything that lead up to this point and how Hinata's confession occurred before. I can safly say this is just another nail in the coffin. Not one moment can prove or disprove anything, but pile them all up together and you have a whole mountain of evidence proving without a doubt that it was not meant to be NH. Again, this is in spite of all the NH moments that occurred that supposedly made NH canon.

 

If you feel one chapter does not make a pairing canon or prove of disprove anything, then why did so many freak out about chapter 615? 540? 631?  Even here.  This is my question. How come a chapter in our favor doesn't prove anything, but a chapter that might go against us is considered a chapter of biblical proportions?

Edited by James S Cassidy, 19 October 2013 - 11:19 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Not really. I don't get why people say Hinata was friendzoned in *insert chapter name*.
 
He never considered her romanticly, he has never questioned the possibility of romance between them. That's why I don't think he has put her in any zone.
 
I also don't think this proves what Naruto thinks of his comrades. He didn't exlude Sakura because she is more than a friend to him, but if Kishimoto used it as a literary device, we don't know.

Much like the use of troll, as in being lost in translation, you wrote it in a meaningful explanation, yet we will just use "friendzoned" to get to the point.

[sushi.]

Isn't friendzone when you don't know where to place a person in your life and when you find out, you place her in said zone?

 

Or that when someone tries to pursue you, you reject them and they are friendzoned?

 

I don't think this fits for Naruto and Hinata.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Isn't friendzone when you don't know where to place a person in your life and when you find out, you place her in said zone?
 
Or that when someone tries to pursue you, you reject them and they are friendzoned?
 
I don't think this fits for Naruto and Hinata.

Well, that would be 631 case.

[sushi.]

Well, that would be 631 case.

Yes, but then we could agree Kishi friendzoned Hinata? It was like he was saying "No NH for you!". But I don't think Naruto was thinking of Hinata when answering the gf question.

[Darkness]

Isn't friendzone when you don't know where to place a person in your life and when you find out, you place her in said zone?

 

Or that when someone tries to pursue you, you reject them and they are friendzoned?

 

I don't think this fits for Naruto and Hinata.

 

Actually friend zone in my conception is that "place" when you consider someone too much of a friend to ever think about having anything romantic with them.

 

Naruto, despite Hinata's attempts to demonstrate she loves him, has never considered anything with her besides friendship. So yeah, it is fair to assume she is in the friend zone, just like Ino, Kiba, Shikamaru and you get the point...

Edited by Darkness, 19 October 2013 - 11:33 PM.