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[Branden]

Kishimoto may have made Sakura a little too overpowered. She performed the most destructive punch in the whole manga and used the remote healing technique that turned Tsunade into a wrinkled hag... AND THE SEAL ON HER FOREHEAD ISN'T EVEN RELEASED YET!!! She's only been tapping into it's stored up chakra and using it to enhance her punch and heal fodders. If she releases that thing and goes into the form Tsunade used against Madara, she's gonna be overpowered as hell. Even more so than Tsunade. Assuming Kishi lets her fight some more.

To be honest, given how powerful attacks are nowadays and Sakura's lack of powerful defense I don't think regeneration is going to help her at all. Remember how Madara took out Tsunade? He just cut her in half.... there's no regenerating a severed half of your body. As for her being overpowered, I disagree. What she's doing now is the minimum needed to validate her role as a member of team 7. What she needs now is to surpass Tsunade in both medical-support and offensive capabilities.

 

What I'm hoping is for her to gain speed and defense as well as the ability to boost people's attacks. Speed is in a way a defense so maybe just speed would be fine. As for the boost I would hope she could use Katsuyu to send a pulse of chakra into people at the exact moment of their attack making it significantly more powerful. Depending on how much chakra she can expend this could lead to devastating results given the proper allies.

 

I also don't think any of this is too powerful. We've seen over and over again people in the series doing things much more ridiculous than this. The reason why people might think this is too much is because we aren't use to seeing Sakura up there with the top tier fighters. Now that she is we can only hope that Kishi will truly show that Sakura is on the same level.

 

 

@ns4life

 

Edo tensei is pretty much just overpowered. They are revived permanently as an immortal being that has an unlimited amount of chakra and can regenerate from any wound. This is done by using the DNA of a deceased individual to summon their soul into the body of a live humanoid, killing the host but reviving the dead.

 

It has no drawbacks whatsoever and once revived you can keep them in their coffins and summon them whenever necessary. Adding a seal into them just after their summoning will allow you to control them whenever you see fit.

 

There are only 2 ways to defeat an edo tensei, you must seal them away or just be a really nice person so that they feel all warm and fuzzy and decide to explode into dust.

Edited by Branden, 03 August 2013 - 04:57 PM.

[Atheck]

Kishimoto may have made Sakura a little too overpowered. She performed the most destructive punch in the whole manga and used the remote healing technique that turned Tsunade into a wrinkled hag... AND THE SEAL ON HER FOREHEAD ISN'T EVEN RELEASED YET!!! She's only been tapping into it's stored up chakra and using it to enhance her punch and heal fodders. If she releases that thing and goes into the form Tsunade used against Madara, she's gonna be overpowered as hell. Even more so than Tsunade. Assuming Kishi lets her fight some more.

 

The restoration jutsu wasn't the cause for Tsunade's accelerated ageing. She was perfectly able-bodied after healing the injuries of civilians in the Invasion of Pain arc. Releasing the seal in order to protect the village's population from the onslaught of Shinra Tensei was the begetter. She fell into a chakra deprived coma because having to remotely transfer so much energy to hundreds (possibly thousands) of individuals after having already used a village-wide healing technique continuously is an exhaustive practice. Situations like hers have occurred before in other characters like with Kakashi collapsing and being forced to rely on crutches for a week after maintaining his Sharingan throughout the entire battle with Zabuza.   

 

The Byakugou jutsu would offer Sakura the ability to regenerate from critical injuries and wounds, as a result she would theoretically have the greatest endurance of anyone on the battlefield with the exception of those revived by Edo Tensei, but I don't see how that would make her "overpowered". It increases the upper limit of injuries that she can sustain. Her speed, reflexes, strength, and acuity remain the same. She just becomes more difficult to kill. And not to undersell the idea, but Tobi's ability to combine the natural elements together was compared to Onoki's Jinton. That Kekkei Tota is like an Achilles' Heel to anyone who uses defencive or restorative techniques for their avenue of victory. 

 

The above user explained it thoroughly enough. Even with Byakugou, Sakura and Tsunade just aren't in a position where they could contribute much against either Tobi or Madara; not by themselves at least. 

[T XD]

Makes me wish Minato can do Edo before vanishing forever. That remind me, how does that Edo works again? It seems....science?

I don't remember and I don't get into these stuff like Edo and Sharingan and whatever. They're too complicated and they have reached a level where they're all similar and we get lost afterwards.

 

Just science ? It's like also some wizardry and stuff

Edited by T XD, 03 August 2013 - 04:56 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't remember and I don't get into these stuff like Edo and Sharingan and whatever. They're too complicated and they have reached a level where they're all similar and we get lost afterwards.
 
Just science ? It's like also some wizardry and stuff

Lol well it would be nice for Minato or someone to do it. Minato seems like the guy who wants Kushina to know the latest update before leaving in their hands forever. I mean he did it with the chakra part.

[T XD]

Lol well it would be nice for Minato or someone to do it. Minato seems like the guy who wants Kushina to know the latest update before leaving in their hands forever. I mean he did it with the chakra part.

Yeah, he seems like that. Maybe when he returns back and would tell Kushina like we talked yesterday. I think Kushina won't be brought back to life from how it seems.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah, he seems like that. Maybe when he returns back and would tell Kushina like we talked yesterday. I think Kushina won't be brought back to life from how it seems.

Yeah. I think that will be the only asspull I'll accept.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

To be honest, given how powerful attacks are nowadays and Sakura's lack of powerful defense I don't think regeneration is going to help her at all. Remember how Madara took out Tsunade? He just cut her in half.... there's no regenerating a severed half of your body. As for her being overpowered, I disagree. What she's doing now is the minimum needed to validate her role as a member of team 7. What she needs now is to surpass Tsunade in both medical-support and offensive capabilities.

 

What I'm hoping is for her to gain speed and defense as well as the ability to boost people's attacks. Speed is in a way a defense so maybe just speed would be fine. As for the boost I would hope she could use Katsuyu to send a pulse of chakra into people at the exact moment of their attack making it significantly more powerful. Depending on how much chakra she can expend this could lead to devastating results given the proper allies.

 

I also don't think any of this is too powerful. We've seen over and over again people in the series doing things much more ridiculous than this. The reason why people might think this is too much is because we aren't use to seeing Sakura up there with the top tier fighters. Now that she is we can only hope that Kishi will truly show that Sakura is on the same level.

 

 

@ns4life

 

Edo tensei is pretty much just overpowered. They are revived permanently as an immortal being that has an unlimited amount of chakra and can regenerate from any wound. This is done by using the DNA of a deceased individual to summon their soul into the body of a live humanoid, killing the host but reviving the dead.

 

It has no drawbacks whatsoever and once revived you can keep them in their coffins and summon them whenever necessary. Adding a seal into them just after their summoning will allow you to control them whenever you see fit.

 

There are only 2 ways to defeat an edo tensei, you must seal them away or just be a really nice person so that they feel all warm and fuzzy and decide to explode into dust.

Agree with you, even with the powerup she still lakcs the same thing she had when she didnt had it, her lack of  powerfull long ranged attacks(summoning ktasuyuu doesnt count), probably speed, and the lack of a defensive ability.

 

Sakura is designed to be a support, for me she's the top 1 of support on the k11, Naruto and Sakura fighting alongside is pratically undefeatable, it reminds me of kushina when her chakra chains and her sealing abilities enhanced Minato's abilities.

 

Naruto could pass out a bit of the kyuubi's chakra and she would have more speed and a defensive ability and Sakura could heal Naruto remotely, also use her brute strenght to throw the enemy into the air.

 

Sakura may not OP but her teaming up with Naruto is way too OP.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 August 2013 - 05:34 PM.

[T XD]

Yeah. I think that will be the only asspull I'll accept.

Lol. Same here. I think Kishi will have to show Kushina again some time though.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Agree with you, even with the powerup she still lakcs the same thing she had when she didnt had it, her lack of  powerfull long ranged attacks(summoning ktasuyuu doesnt count), probably speed, and the lack of a defensive ability.
 
Sakura is designed to be a support, for me she's the top 1 of support on the k11, Naruto and Sakura fighting alongside is pratically undefeatable, it reminds me of kushina when her chakra chains and her sealing abilities enhanced Minato's abilities.
 
Naruto could pass out a bit of the kyuubi's chakra and she would have more speed and a defensive ability and Sakura could heal Naruto remotely, also use her brute strenght to throw the enemy into the air.
 
Sakura may not OP but her teaming up with Naruto is way too OP.

This is nicely said. I think she will be a good attacker, but as a support, she's great. You're right about NS, they will be incredible. I think that was the case for MK. I guess that's what you get for Heaven and Earth going together. Iruka wasn't kidding.

@T XD: I feel like he should. We should get more in character out of her. We should get once in a lifetime reunion before giving one final wish for Naruto. We'll see.

[Dkey]

I wonder why Kishi didn't do a Kyuubi covered with Susanoo and healed or chakra managed by Sakura. That would be a nice touch for team 7. He still insists with fire and wind. Makes Sakura the third wheel. But she isn't out of the picture yet. In the next chapter I think she will comment on the smiling thing.

[sushi.]

I think the next chapter will reveal something more about Sasuke, and the cliffhanger will be related to it. That will be fun, I can finally feel like the plot is moving.

 

Don't get me wrong, this Obito fight is crucial. I just don't want the Sasuke issue to stand still for too long because I'm much more excited about that.

Edited by sushi., 03 August 2013 - 06:34 PM.

[Dkey]

I think the next chapter will reveal something more about Sasuke, and the cliffhanger will be related to it. That will be fun, I can finally feel like the plot is moving.

 

Don't get me wrong, this Obito fight is crucial. I just don't want the Sasuke issue to stand still for too long because I'm much more excited about that.

 

 

Yeah don't  know the only Sasuke thing I assume will be is again Kishi reassuring us that he plans to kill Naruto. Maybe this time he decides to act on it. The plot right now should focus on Obito and Naruto.

[TouKen4Life3g]

My prediction on Sasuke is that he will reveal his plan at the end of the battle or arc. You know what they should do: pull a "stab" moment. I remember in Bleach movie 4, after the villain was defeated, bam, stabbed. I like that moment for being silence, making you gasp.

Anyway, here's what we have.

- Sasuke is erasing all wrongdoings from the past
- Sasuke wants to kill Naruto for himself, no one else
- Suggesting that his team, including Orochimaru, doesn't know the plan, hence "waiting for that new wind."

Questions that need to be answered:
- What exactly he's creating anew? For who?
- What is this "new wind" Orochimaru waiting for?
- If Orochimaru doesn't show up with Gokages, then where did they go?
- All in all, what is his true goal?

Right now, it's anyone guess on what's Sasuke's goal. Hashirama reacted negatively when Sasuke wanted to kill Juubi, along with others, permanently. Sasuke continues to show darkness in his looks whenever he's talking about his goal and/or approaching to victory (Burn!). Sure it's a mystery but if done right, I'll look forward to it for sure.

[T XD]

Sasuke will act neutral towards everyone now till this fight ends. When it does end, Sasuke will try and kill Naruto on the spot or will turn heels and come back later for Naruto to fight. Plus, after the villains are defeated, we'll know about Sasuke's plan as in what does he want to do for the ninja system and being Hokage for Konoha, and very possible he'll say that he wants to kill Naruto by himself.

 

The thing is that Sasuke now is seeing everything that he wants to do as the right way by his opinion. Naruto will be the one to wake him up.

 

 

My prediction on Sasuke is that he will reveal his plan at the end of the battle or arc. You know what they should do: pull a "stab" moment. I remember in Bleach movie 4, after the villain was defeated, bam, stabbed. I like that moment for being silence, making you gasp.

Anyway, here's what we have.

- Sasuke is erasing all wrongdoings from the past
- Sasuke wants to kill Naruto for himself, no one else
- Suggesting that his team, including Orochimaru, doesn't know the plan, hence "waiting for that new wind."

Questions that need to be answered:
- What exactly he's creating anew? For who?
- What is this "new wind" Orochimaru waiting for?
- If Orochimaru doesn't show up with Gokages, then where did they go?
- All in all, what is his true goal?

Right now, it's anyone guess on what's Sasuke's goal. Hashirama reacted negatively when Sasuke wanted to kill Juubi, along with others, permanently. Sasuke continues to show darkness in his looks whenever he's talking about his goal and/or approaching to victory (Burn!). Sure it's a mystery but if done right, I'll look forward to it for sure.

Refresh my memory, didn't Orochimaru and others say that they will go to the battlefield ? Or they didn't say that ?

 

By the way, I think Sasuke doesn't care about his wrongdoings from his past. Not to mention that from the way he says he wants to be Hokage and that he doesn't care what others think and stuff shows it too.

Edited by T XD, 03 August 2013 - 07:07 PM.

[LuckyChi7]

One thing I do wanna bring up is possibility of Jiraiya coming back. Personally I don't want him to come back because he had a really epic death, yes kabuto said he wouldn't be able to, but we're talking about Orochimaru. I'm sure he has some form of DNA from him. I mean Orochimaru was resurrected and Tsunade is all healed again, so why not bring back the third Sanin to see how much their students have grown. What do you guys think of Jiraiya being ressurected?

[T XD]

One thing I do wanna bring up is possibility of Jiraiya coming back. Personally I don't want him to come back because he had a really epic death, yes kabuto said he wouldn't be able to, but we're talking about Orochimaru. I'm sure he has some form of DNA from him. I mean Orochimaru was resurrected and Tsunade is all healed again, so why not bring back the third Sanin to see how much their students have grown. What do you guys think of Jiraiya being ressurected?

Orochimaru can do that. He always tends to do something like that, so doing a resurrection to his friend will be something that he thought of. But, I don't see where Jiraiya can be added in this battle. There's no place from what I can see for now. There's many things that yet has to be taken care of.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Sasuke will act neutral towards everyone now till this fight ends. When it does end, Sasuke will try and kill Naruto on the spot or will turn heels and come back later for Naruto to fight. Plus, after the villains are defeated, we'll know about Sasuke's plan as in what does he want to do for the ninja system and being Hokage for Konoha, and very possible he'll say that he wants to kill Naruto by himself.
 
The thing is that Sasuke now is seeing everything that he wants to do as the right way by his opinion. Naruto will be the one to wake him up.
 
 
Refresh my memory, didn't Orochimaru and others say that they will go to the battlefield ? Or they didn't say that ?
 
By the way, I think Sasuke doesn't care about his wrongdoings from his past. Not to mention that from the way he says he wants to be Hokage and that he doesn't care what others think and stuff shows it too.

He acknowledged that he did many things in the past yet he doesn't care. What an kitten. Lol. But seriously, if he truly wants to destroy all aspects of ninja system and create a new something, how would that be possible?

As for Orochimaru, he just said he should get going. It's somewhat vague so if he doesn't show up in the war, then something is wrong. I just noticed that Karin said something about the plan. That means they know. Or at least part of it. That means Sasuke is working underground along with Orochimaru. Juugo is just chilling for whatever reason. Having Tsunade and others going to battlefield will make them lose focus on Orochimaru for the time being. Hm, now I'm wondering...

As for Jiraiya, will he come back? I don't know but it did feel like it was suggesting that during the chapter with Orochimaru and Tsunade. After all, she knows that he meant a lot to Jiraiya and there were plenty of hints that shows that these were Naruto/Sasuke of the last generation. Will I be excited? If done right, yeah.

[T XD]

He acknowledged that he did many things in the past yet he doesn't care. What an a**hole. Lol. But seriously, if he truly wants to destroy all aspects of ninja system and create a new something, how would that be possible?

As for Orochimaru, he just said he should get going. It's somewhat vague so if he doesn't show up in the war, then something is wrong. I just noticed that Karin said something about the plan. That means they know. Or at least part of it. That means Sasuke is working underground along with Orochimaru. Juugo is just chilling for whatever reason. Having Tsunade and others going to battlefield will make them lose focus on Orochimaru for the time being. Hm, now I'm wondering...

As for Jiraiya, will he come back? I don't know but it did feel like it was suggesting that during the chapter with Orochimaru and Tsunade. After all, she knows that he meant a lot to Jiraiya and there were plenty of hints that shows that these were Naruto/Sasuke of the last generation. Will I be excited? If done right, yeah.

I think Sasuke wants to do something with the ninja system like what Madara is thinking. Plus, more and more, I'm seeing him turning into Madara 2.0.

 

Yeah, they seem to know what's the plan and if that's what Orochimaru said, maybe they're going somewhere else then show up in the battlefield, or just somewhere else. Don't know about that yet.

 

Bringing Jiraiya back will be something I'll be happy for.He's one of my favorite characters.But, where does he fit in this battle ? Just bringing him back and that's it... Of course not. There's so many things that needs to be done already in this battle, unless the Sannin 1.0 are going to fight also which I don't see that happening either.

Edited by T XD, 03 August 2013 - 07:29 PM.

[LuckyChi7]

He acknowledged that he did many things in the past yet he doesn't care. What an a**hole. Lol. But seriously, if he truly wants to destroy all aspects of ninja system and create a new something, how would that be possible?

As for Orochimaru, he just said he should get going. It's somewhat vague so if he doesn't show up in the war, then something is wrong. I just noticed that Karin said something about the plan. That means they know. Or at least part of it. That means Sasuke is working underground along with Orochimaru. Juugo is just chilling for whatever reason. Having Tsunade and others going to battlefield will make them lose focus on Orochimaru for the time being. Hm, now I'm wondering...

As for Jiraiya, will he come back? I don't know but it did feel like it was suggesting that during the chapter with Orochimaru and Tsunade. After all, she knows that he meant a lot to Jiraiya and there were plenty of hints that shows that these were Naruto/Sasuke of the last generation. Will I be excited? If done right, yeah.

You know I just reread 634, and gamakichi told Naruto that Gamabunta was busy with something. So may there is possibility that he might not even be dead, ofcourse I'm just throwing a speculation out there. Maybe that could be the big cliffhanger in the upcoming chapters.

Edited by LuckyChi7, 03 August 2013 - 07:33 PM.

[sushi.]

I won't deny Jiraiya's return is a possibility, but what good would it be for the plot?

 

I'll repost my thoughts on the matter from the 634 thread.. just to be cool

sushi., on 13 Jun 2013 - 01:50 AM, said:

How would Jiraiya's resurrection contribute to the story besides a fun VS. battle with Naruto, or to make him witness Naruto's growth?

I see no benefit for Orochimaru in this case. He wouldn't do it. It would only be a plot device, and the story would be dragged out because it has no tie to the current plot.

I think it's mostly wishful thinking, even if there has been a few hints like Gamabunta's absence.