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[TouKen4Life3g]

I hope I wasn't part of the bashing. I recalled I responded his part about the cover and I said I like it. But yes, I do agree with you. Sigh, this is getting out of hand. This shipping war is getting too hectic.

[Don-kun]

Agree for the last part. I personally want to end everything because it's taking long to get it done. I do miss when the focus was on one group, not millions. It's a stretch but oh well, hopefully, it's something rewarding by the end of the arc.

There are three reason why I'm not a big Naruto fan anymore you just mention one, the focus on so many character in expense of Naruto and partly Sakura, the other two will be the forced bond between Naruto and Sasuke and the fact that Kishi is doing everything he can for Sasuke to be seen like a victim and not a terrorist, finally the favoritism is something I really hate and this Manga and the favoritism is so damn obvious.

@StriderC
I can't say what you miss since this really feels like dejavue so instead I only read some short replies and most of Moriarty post since I was talking with him. I feel that some of us needs a reality check for being so sure that NS will happen, I believe in NS and I really want it to happen NS for both Sakura and Naruto, but I don't know what is on Kishi's mind.

Edited by Don-kun, 27 March 2013 - 06:21 AM.

[Slextrem]

@ Slextem
Was it really that bad?

It's been bad for a long time.

[StriderC]

@StriderC
I can't say what you miss since this really feels like dejavue so instead I only read some short replies and most of Moriarty post since I was talking with him. I feel that some of us needs a reality check for being so sure that NS will happen, I believe in NS and I really want it to happen NS for both Sakura and Naruto, but I don't know what is on Kishi's mind.

@ Slextem
Was it really that bad?

I don't think people should stop having faith or even believing that NS is endgame. I feel that people shouldn't attack others outside of this fandom, and this fandom should learn to lighten up a bit. It's seriously not as fun as it was when I first got here.

[FrenchMyToast]

I understand. Man, I'll be honest, I do enjoy a war story, though wonder why manga always have a hard time. Then it hit me. Maybe it's just not meant to be. Something like that should be taken care of through motion picture. Not movie per say, but something that moves. It can't be done in manga. Could, but always feel like it's stretch. I always image my head a crazy budget war scene of my own fictional world that I really wish I can write about, but yeah, it's a shame how reality works.

Fight scenes just don't work for me in manga. It doesn't help that I can barely tell what happens half the time due to unclear drawings. It always helps when the anime team steps in, but then we face the problem of terrible animation. I either want easy-to-understand drawn fight scenes, or high-quality animation. Is that too much to ask?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Fight scenes just don't work for me in manga. It doesn't help that I can barely tell what happens half the time due to unclear drawings. It always helps when the anime team steps in, but then we face the problem of terrible animation. I either want easy-to-understand drawn fight scenes, or high-quality animation. Is that too much to ask?

Agree. Maybe I was too excited for war in any anime/manga. Maybe I play too much games (no, not just CoD).

[Baguette]

@Slextrem
I hope that by snarky comments, it wasn't about my joke on keeping him.
I was commenting more on the quirky attitude with which he wrote his posts and his tendency include GIFs with them.
Sorry if it got taken the wrong way, Moriarty

Edited by Baguette, 27 March 2013 - 06:27 AM.

[Slextrem]

@Slextrem
I hope that by snarky comments, it wasn't about my joke on keeping him.
I was commenting more on the quirky attitude with which he wrote his posts and his tendency include GIFs with them.
Sorry if it got taken the wrong way, Moriarty

No, I was referring to way before you mentioned wanting to keep him. There were some users making a mockery of his opinion.

[Baguette]

No, I was referring to way before you mentioned wanting to keep him. There were some users making a mockery of his opinion.

Ah ok, sorry for the misconception.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

@Slexstrem:

I agree with you completely. The fandom isn't as bad as it was when 615 was released but it is pretty aggravating right now. From my personal experience in debating with opposing fanbases, if you're that frustrated and angry with their conflicting beliefs then just leave the person be and ignore them. If you're not in a calm state of mind then don't debate. I've come across countless NH/SS fans that I eventually ended my debating with them when some fell back on trolling me and insulting me for not believing in NaruHina. I'm not blaming that particular fanbase and acting like NaruSaku fans are superior then them 'cause we're not. Just if you can't claim your points logically then stay away.

Which brings me to my next point. I feel like many NaruSaku fans generalize the NaruHina fans as being "obnoxious, rude, bashing" while generalizing the NaruSaku fans as "too nice, logical, level-headed." And honestly I don't like that we do this. It displays a subtle sense of arrogance and superiority compared to NH which isn't fair because I've seen many NaruSaku fans bash and troll some NH fans who didn't even do this back. It's true NaruHina fans seem the most loud and passionate but that doesn't mean all of them are rude and unaccepting of NaruSaku fans as a whole. Yes we love NaruSaku. And yes we like socializing and talking with people who think like we do. But this does not mean we are "better" than the NH/SS fandoms combined.

Basically this. In any shipping fandom of any series, we have bad apples and extremists who believe their word is law and don't respect differing opinions of rival ships. It's everywhere and can't be avoided unfortunately. Generalizing the entire shipping fandom as immature and bashing while treating yours as the best and most mature is uncalled for. Sterotyping like that can lead to many misunderstandings and then more animosity. It doesn't help the situation, it makes it worse. It's already pretty clear in how a few NS fans label NaruHina as the childish, disrespectful fandom while a few NH fans retaliate by labeling NaruSaku fans as conceited and stuck-up.

Okay, fandom rant over.

[PhenixElite]

Oh, 18 pages on a cover thread. Didnt realise there are so many members with that much confidence in this pairing/ sarcasm.

[Don-kun]

I don't think people should stop having faith or even believing that NS is endgame. I feel that people shouldn't attack others outside of this fandom, and this fandom should learn to lighten up a bit. It's seriously not as fun as it was when I first got here.

Well I didn't meant it that way, believe something will happen is a big different from expecting something to happen in other words,
I know NS will happen but with this new development NS will just feel rushed and not satisfying vs the development, parallels and the focus NS haves should lead this pairing to finally becoming canon lets hope Kishi's does not ignore NS growth.
I don't like the canon or inevitable talks from any of the sides.

And about the member, I feel that I'm also guilty of this behavior, I try not to treat others the same way I was treated before but sometimes it comes Naturally and that is not cool. So in that manner I agree that every member should be treated with respect regardless of the pairing the ship.

[PhenixElite]

Well I didn't meant it that way, believe something will happen is a big different from expecting something to happen in other words,
I know NS will happen but with this new development NS will just feel rushed and not satisfying vs the development, parallels and the focus NS haves should lead this pairing to finally becoming canon lets hope Kishi's does not ignore NS growth.
I don't like the canon or inevitable talks from any of the sides.

And about the member, I feel that I'm also guilty of this behavior, I try not to treat others the same way I was treated before but sometimes it comes Naturally and that is not cool. So in that manner I agree that every member should be treated with respect regardless of the pairing the ship.

Only intresting thing is that they like to join as soon as thread explodes with tons of fans loosing confidence and jumping ship.
Just intresting...

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hm, iPad is pretty nice I admit. Anyway, people should just move on. Just don't let anyone cloud your judgment. Hm, I wonder how this next podcast goes down.

[Moriarty]

Only intresting thing is that they like to join as soon as thread explodes with tons of fans loosing confidence and jumping ship.
Just intresting...

Because I wanted to add my opinion on the cover? Because I wanted to share my opinion? Because?

I didn't come here to kick anyone when they are down. Cover has much to do with what I had to say. It does involve what I lean towards. And as I said few pages back, I'm not new.

I'll encourage other shippers, because as long as it's not canon, anything is possible. Naruto might not even end up with either, I am not discouraged.

All I did is steal a mouthful of bread.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Because I wanted to add my opinion on the cover? Because I wanted to share my opinion? Because?

I didn't come here to kick anyone when they are down. Cover has much to do with what I had to say. It does involve what I lean towards. And as I said few pages back, I'm not new.

I'll encourage other shippers, because as long as it's not canon, anything is possible. Naruto might not even end up with either, I am not discouraged.

All I did is steal a mouthful of bread.

It's not you. He meant others like how easily they can be broken down.

[Fenris]

Speaking of covers.
Anyone remember that lovely splendid one with Naruto holding the axe that said "Sakura"?

[StriderC]

Reading more of these comments have made me very aggravated to be honest. The assumptions are kittening ridiculous. The guy wasn't offensive at all in his damned comments, and then I see a ton of hypocrisy here. If you don't like the NH or want to talk to them. Don't freakin' acknowledge the person and simply ignore them. I'm not gonna point any fingers, but I seriously can't believe I'm apart of this crazy fandom sometimes. Some of you are overly sensitive. Some of you are harsh and aggressive for no reason at all, and uninviting. The site invites everyone so grow the kitten up.

Some of you have truly shown your true colors here, and it's not pretty at all. Someone has a different outlook/opinion than you and some of you pounce, shove your opinions down their throat, and act as though this is some damn popularity contest...

It's actually STILL registering to me how crazy this fandom is.

Anyway Moriarty, I'll gladly have a civil discussion with you. ^^

[merryGOflava]

Because I wanted to add my opinion on the cover? Because I wanted to share my opinion? Because?

I didn't come here to kick anyone when they are down. Cover has much to do with what I had to say. It does involve what I lean towards. And as I said few pages back, I'm not new.

I'll encourage other shippers, because as long as it's not canon, anything is possible. Naruto might not even end up with either, I am not discouraged.

All I did is steal a mouthful of bread.

I guess some of us just don't wanna hear the opinion of naruhina fans when stuff like this happens.....though I can't speak for everyone.
(we just wanna calm down first ya know what I mean?) it's not that you aren't a civil person cause you are...

like I said before...some of us are really bummed is all.

Edited by merryGOflava, 27 March 2013 - 07:08 AM.

[Moriarty]

I guess some of us just don't wanna hear the opinion of naruhina fans when stuff like this happens.....though I can't speak for everyone.
(we just wanna calm down first ya know what I mean?)

No Problemo. I can understand. Though I know it's not a good way to go about it. But I get it.

It's not you. He meant others like how easily they can be broken down.

OH! lmao, my bad. Alrighty then. I'll move along then.

Good night though, I have to vamoose! Off to bed I go. ^v^

Edited by Moriarty, 27 March 2013 - 07:09 AM.