It is possible she might have been written off the manga D:

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#341
Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:30 PM
It is possible she might have been written off the manga D:
#342
Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:32 PM
Worse is when he already throw two rasenshurikens with his dislocated shoulder, then he makes more two but only throw one rasenshuriken.

#343
Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:33 PM
Neji's death could've been good, and I liked the impact it gave in the last chapter, but not in 615.
What manga are you reading? The one I am reading has Hinata fighting right there along with her father, Naruto, Kakashi and everybody. The manga I am reading also had Hinata remind Naruto about Neji's sacrifice and how they must not waste it by giving in to Obito. What happened in the manga you are reading and where can I find that manga? Most likely Hinata will eventually succeed her father after he retires or passes away. She has shown herself to be strong in this fight and someone who does not give in to gloating villains. I honestly don't understand this Hinata hating and belittling her every action. I mean, I can understand why you would not like Sasuke but Hinata? What has she done to make you hate her so much? She has been nothing but sweet girl.
Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 23 January 2013 - 02:34 PM.
#344
Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:39 PM
The whole (OMG HINATA FIXED NARUTO"S DISLOCATED SHOULDER!) calm down, its nothing romantic, literally she just hit it into place so Naruto could fire his Rasenshuriken. Its not like the overhyped moment, if you thought it was bad how arrogent NaruHina fans acted in 615, seeing them make a big deal over this minor one is just pathetic. Hinata is not a medical ninja, hell people who are not qualified doctors can put dislocated bones back into place. I was expecting Sakura when that happened but Hinata is not taking sakura's role. Until we see Sakura again, we would have no idea whats going on with her character, if we see her suddenly with the kages or in the far back of the battlefront, we would know what she was just tending to the 5 kages (so she would not have been present to help Naruto) or she used the whole power up event as a way to pull the injured away from battle while Obito and Madara were focused on trying to stop naruto.
These would make sense, Sakura could not do anything if she is not present or if her role did not come for it. If she is not able to help in the ten tails, she could help when things get more, human sized. Sakura is a main character, regardless of pairings she will have an event. Sadly next week looks like Sasuke again and then a few weeks of talking but I can garuntte you that we will see sakura in feburary (the pink month) on march (when the blossims come) I mean if 615 happened around Hinata's birthday, what if something big happens around March 5? 5th of march is a tuseday) I still predict a somber speech between Sakura and Tsunade and something possibly between them (Sakura could possibly love Naruto depending on what her reaction in 615 was for).
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#345
Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:40 PM
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#346
Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:40 PM

The arc isn't over yet and we don't know how much longer it'll last. As others have said, Kishi seems to be following along with 573. As much as waiting sucks, Sakura will get her chance.
Besides, Kishi isn't very predictable. Many of us weren't expecting Neji's death, the hand holding, the chakra transfer, ect ect. Who knows what Kishi will suddenly pull? Maybe something good for us and for Sakura fans.

Exactly. I mean, Hinata imo, needs to be written more so her obsession with Naruto is also shown not to be WHOLLY positive, in terms of that it gives her tunnel vision.
In chapter 615, honestly, yes, I would rather a moment between Hinata and Neji (and the whole Hyuuga thing, with Hinata resolving she will be strong because she is the future Hyuuga clan head), rather than it being with Naruto.
But I refuse to be worrying over a mere two-panel appearance of Hinata, which was not given any more significance over other characters like Shikamaru and Kakashi (who imo, had a lot more focus than she did)!

That's what I tell myself

It's only because she's so singularly obsessed with Naruto that almost all her moments are ROMANTICALLY-tinged and appears to overshadow NaruSaku

On the boards a while back I remember there was a discussion about Inuyasha...a similar parallel is how Kagome got lots of hate, even as the main protagonist. I mean, sometimes it just is like that.
Just my view

#347
Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:41 PM
What has Sasuke to do with this..

She's fighting along with everybody, which is fine. Okay. But she has never showed me any resolve or will to "fix her clan" or become the leader Neji wanted her to be. All the Hyuugas are fighting, I don't know why she's more a suitable leader than the others because she is fighting. Of course she will surpass her father, knowing Kishi it probably will happen.
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And also, if any fan thinks Sakura's or Shikamaru's role can be filled with Hinata.. just

Edited by sushi., 23 January 2013 - 02:42 PM.
ナルサク
#348
Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:42 PM
Let me tell you what I suspect:
If Hinata had cried and cried for Neji, you (general you) would have been all over her criticizing her but instead you (general you) would have been saying: "Hinata is so useless, she only cries! This is not the time nor the place to be weeping! She is such a waste, she should go away, she can't be strong for Naruto!" ect.
I think Hinata can do nothing to please you. Except if she steps aside and tells Naruto to go to make love to Sakura.
#349
Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:45 PM
I wasn't talking about Neji. I am talking about a hypothetical situation. You brought up Neji. I noticed you never even commented on Hinata being her RtN persona and bullying Naruto into submission. I guess you are okay with that.
*facepalm*
I rest my case.
Welcome to the Sakura fan club where no matter what she does either she is still hated for it.
Edited by James S Cassidy, 23 January 2013 - 02:47 PM.
#350
Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:47 PM
If Hinata had cried and cried for Neji, you (general you) would have been all over her criticizing her but instead you (general you) would have been saying: "Hinata is so useless, she only cries! This is not the time nor the place to be weeping! She is such a waste, she should go away, she can't be strong for Naruto!" ect.
I think Hinata can do nothing to please you. Except if she steps aside and tells Naruto to go to make love to Sakura.
The bolded: Totally true, her character is just random and boring. Her development is hiding behind trees. The only word she says is naruto- kun.
Really hard for me to find something positive in a character like hinata. Her cousin dies and she sheds one tear, after that she smiles cause she finally gets to hold narutos hand

#351
Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:48 PM

She's fighting along with everybody, which is fine. Okay. But she has never showed me any resolve or will to "fix her clan" or become the leader Neji wanted her to be. All the Hyuugas are fighting, I don't know why she's more a suitable leader than the others because she is fighting. Of course she will surpass her father, knowing Kishi it probably will happen.
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And also, if any fan thinks Sakura's or Shikamaru's role can be filled with Hinata.. just

I can understand why character like Sasuke would not be someone's favourite. He actually has done bad things. But Hinata has done nothing wrong, ever. She has always tried her best and been sweet. I can understand why someone would not be interested in her character and think her a bit boring. But I really really can't understand why you all seem to hate her with the fire of thousand flaming suns. How can this sweet girl inspire so much hatred for herself? Huh? I just don't get it. Hinata has shown that she can stand up for herself and inspire people, like Naruto. She is strong, she can fight. She can help injured people, like Naruto, in fights. Sounds like a good leader to me.
And I don't understand this "Hinata is stealing Sakura's role" or this "Hinata is filling Shikamaru's role". No, she is filling her own role, and now her role is to be there beside Naruto, helping and supporting him. Maybe in the future she will be his wife and partner in every way. Doubt Shikamaru and Sakura will envy her if this happens.
Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 23 January 2013 - 02:49 PM.
#352
Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:53 PM
If Hinata had cried and cried for Neji, you (general you) would have been all over her criticizing her but instead you (general you) would have been saying: "Hinata is so useless, she only cries! This is not the time nor the place to be weeping! She is such a waste, she should go away, she can't be strong for Naruto!" ect.
I think Hinata can do nothing to please you. Except if she steps aside and tells Naruto to go to make love to Sakura.
Posion, the deal many people have with Hinata is not her character, its how the fans precieved her as some flawless, idealistic, perfect goddess who should take any role, trying to make her a main character or part of team 7 (which she is not), think her reckless act to save Naruto from pain was godly when Sakura did the same thing in the 4 tails situation and called her bad, her overhyped parise when up until this arc, her accomplishments in all respect have been minimal, all her interaction outside of battle has been standard but her biggest development moments sadly always have someone being hurt, her biggest moments in the manga (fighting neji, confessing to naruto, and neji's death) sadly all had to have someone get hurt and she was steamrolled twice, its literally like Hinata is nothing more than a human shield.
If Hinata was flawless, then she would not be a likeable character, I think she is okay I just hate how the fans try to make her something she is not. We see Sakura as a very flawed character who tends to act the most human in the series, she grows over it (she thought she was useless, she trained with Tsunade to become better to help Naruto, she sees its not enough she still carries that same resolve and desire to help Naruto). Sakura is not just a one track mind, sadly with Hinata I feel she has the bigger love disease than Sakura did with Sasuke when it comes to Naruto.
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#353
Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:54 PM
*facepalm*
I rest my case.
You honestly think I haven't been reading this forum enough to be able to read between the lines? It is obvious to everyone that you were talking about Neji because during the last weeks you in this forum have been doing little else than complaining how Neji's death sucks ass because he "had to die for NH" and how NH sucks because it claimed "Neji as blood sacrifice". Please.
Well, yeah. This is why I'm so confused. You people know better than anyone how much it sucks that some character is hated no matter what she does. And yet you yourselves do exactly the same to Hinata. Why? You know how silly all the Sakura haters are. Why be like them?
Edit. I seriously have no desire to try to convince you to like Hinata or NH; I really don't want that headache. But this Hinata hating is really silly.
Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 23 January 2013 - 02:59 PM.
#354
Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:00 PM
If Hinata had cried and cried for Neji, you (general you) would have been all over her criticizing her but instead you (general you) would have been saying: "Hinata is so useless, she only cries! This is not the time nor the place to be weeping! She is such a waste, she should go away, she can't be strong for Naruto!" ect.
I think Hinata can do nothing to please you. Except if she steps aside and tells Naruto to go to make love to Sakura.
Lee cried last chapter, I saw no whining. I wouldn't have complained if she cried, as long as she got back up on her feet, start walking forward(FMA FTW).
And I don't understand this "Hinata is stealing Sakura's role" or this "Hinata is filling Shikamaru's role". No, she is filling her own role, and now her role is to be there beside Naruto, helping and supporting him. Maybe in the future she will be his wife and partner in every way. Doubt Shikamaru and Sakura will envy her if this happens.
I don't hate anyone, not even real people. But I have tried my best to explain why I don't like her. As long as your dislike for a character is reasonable, it's OK. I've seen one rational anti-Sakura rant, only one. Even if Hinata is a sweet girl, if she mess it up, what's the excuse. "She just tried to help, she's sweet", kudos to James.
I don't think Hinata is stealing anyone's role. I'm saying that nothing can fill the empty space of Sakura's disappereance, not even if Hinata does what Sakura should've. If Kishi keeps up with this(I don't think he will), there will be an empty hole in the story that can never be fullfilled, it will remain uncompleted for me.
Edited by sushi., 23 January 2013 - 03:01 PM.
ナルサク
#355
Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:04 PM
俺は天才バスケットマン桜木花道。
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#356
Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:06 PM
#357
Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:07 PM
If Hinata had cried and cried for Neji, you (general you) would have been all over her criticizing her but instead you (general you) would have been saying: "Hinata is so useless, she only cries! This is not the time nor the place to be weeping! She is such a waste, she should go away, she can't be strong for Naruto!" ect.
I think Hinata can do nothing to please you. Except if she steps aside and tells Naruto to go to make love to Sakura.
Hmm, how do I put it this way? Perhaps as a former NaruHina fan I can explain a little

The reason I liked Part 1 Hinata was developed from just the "shy, weird girl" who has a crush on Naruto, to a girl who was inspired by him because she saw in him what she could become. I liked that her crush, in comparison to Sakura's, was not just out of a shallow perception of 'coolness' but was more meaningful and deeply rooted in how she felt as a person born into a privileged and powerful clan but not measuring up to her father's expectations. Naruto was inspiring her to be a better person, rather than just teenage hormones.
Secondly, her family background meant that the goals of her character weren't so reductionist as just a crush. She wanted to prove herself to her father, and I liked that as shown in how she did her best in her fight against Neji. I liked that her troubled relationship with her cousin added more to her character's motivations. Furthermore, I saw her interacting with her teammates.
Now, the reason I to an extent dislike Part 2 Hinata- and then no longer supported NH is because ALMOST all her character appearances have her thinking about Naruto- so I started to feel she really had tunnel vision for Naruto. Overall, I felt her character regressed, as her crush led her to have poor judgment at times, as I did not see her thinking about her clan, her teammates or anyone else.
1) Arc where Team 8 and 7 were chasing Sasuke- she gets distracted every time, going "Naruto-kun!" "Naruto-kun!" even when he just falls into the pond- I mean, it wasn't like he got STABBED! Sakura has to remind her to focus, ("Naruto's fine, it'll take more than that to defeat him. Just keep your eyes off the enemy, Hinata!)
2) Pain arc- her kamikaze stunt in front of Pain, would have been a lot better and felt less like her grandstanding with her confession if she had actually done something USEFUL. She said she wasn't going to let Pain lay another hand on Naruto. All she does is a ridiculous frontal attack which she cannot win and gets herself almost killed in 5 seconds.

The reason I felt her actions were essentially selfish and thoughtless was because ALTHOUGH she was definitely unable to beat Pain, she really could have helped. She could have gotten someone else to come with her. She could have come up with a diversion rather than full frontal attack that would definitely buy Naruto time. She might have tried something with the chakra rods to free Naruto. The list is endless. Instead she sacrifices her element of surprise on Pain to go and confess. I wouldn't have minded if she said it in the middle of fighting...but that wasn't what happened.
The fact that she almost caused Naruto to go berserk on the entire of Konoha- and it was only because of Minato that didn't happen- makes her action doubly foolish and ill-thought. Naruto was already under pressure as Jiraiya had died previously, and he learnt that Kakashi was dead too. Even if you are a Hinata fan, I would think it's only fair to see that it was quite reckless and foolish of her at least, and definitely a little selfish (heck she said it herself).
3) Path to Radiance- Well, I wish she had other thoughts other than just wanting to hold Naruto's hand. Like maybe for Konoha? For her younger sister? Anything to show she is far from a girl whose main focus in life is a romantic interest. Maybe this bugs me more because I'm a bit of a rabid feminist?

4) Neji's death- Again, fine, she did cry for him. Her speech was pretty good. But I thought the sentiment was killed when all she thought of was how big Naruto's hand was. It seemed so silly and frivolous in contrast to what she said, and what just had happened to Neji. I mean, dude, your cousin DIED! HORRIBLY! right in front of you! I would have liked MORE thoughts at least about her cousin. I mean he really died to protect her. I wish Kishi had shown her thinking about how perhaps they didn't always get along, and that she fully feels indebted to his sacrifice.
5) Her inability to be worried about anyone...but Naruto. Throughout Part 2 she hasn't shown concern for her teammates. ONLY Naruto. (And that random Hyuuga who broke his leg) I'm sorry but I burst out laughing when she arrived with Ino and when Gai and Kakashi were looking in terrible shape and bleeding everywhere...all she had to say was "Naruto-kun! Are you ok?" It just seemed to reinforce her tunnel vision to me.
Imo, these I think show why Hinata is a flawed character...sure, I understand why people might like her. But to think she's a total paragon of virtue? No way. She has flaws. Not the same type as Sakura and Ino, but indeed she does. Part 2 has made her really look like she has tunnel vision for Naruto, which I feel disappointingly detracts from her character in Part 1. Plus, I get the sense, like P1 Sakura w Sasuke, she's infatuated with an image of Naruto...and she doesn't really know him (see how she worries about him unecessarily in pursuit of Sasuke arc). I haven't seen any of her thoughts about Naruto's issues with Sasuke- a major point of his character. That's why I say she doesn't know him.
Edited by fireandice, 23 January 2013 - 03:28 PM.
#358
Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:08 PM
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Take the same advice to all the sakura haters please, we all have our own perspectives on who we like and hate. I for one hate ten ten, she is hardly even in the manga, she only has a real role in the spin off series. I don't hate hinata, I just think she could have had better development and honestly hate how her fanbase tries to make her into something she is not. If Kishi wanted too, he could have given her more screentime like Shikamaru but that time is long past, she could have appeared more in the downtime but did not. In the downtime it was usually always Sakura, Sai, Yamato, Kakashi, Shikamaru, Kiba, Choji, or Ino. Hardly Hinata. Regardless of pairings, Hinata is not a main character and never will be, fans just need to understand this, the main crisis lies with team 7, more than anyone aside from Naruto, Sakura, and Kakashi, they have the biggest obligation to the crisis at hand. Naruto for all thats riding on him and Sasuke, Sakura for the promise she put on Naruto and wanting to help him resolve it, Kakashi for both Sasuke and Obito. Hinata has nothing important in this circle, hell you can count Sai in just because he is a member of team 7. Hinata is not some flawless goddess, she is just not as good a character as she should be. You know who the best characters are? Kakashi and Shikamaru, Kakashi is always in a tough situation but as the all arounder, he knows how to get through things, he is a veteran. Shikamaru is likable as well, he is an idealistic and likeable character, he is a lazy slacker but batman smart. He knows the deal to get through things.
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#359
Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:09 PM
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LOL - I laughed so hard! xDDDDDD
Reason why this so called "NH Moments" in the latest chapters are not (longer) bothering me:
Hinata is, and had always been Narutos support character.
- She brought him back to reality when he was about to drop his Nindo. Really, the only thing Naruto and Hinata have in common are their Nindos. This was also pointed out several times in the Manga, last time at Hinatas confession during the Pain Arc.
And because of that, I think Hinata was the best choice for this part.
Like Shikamaru was (ofc, besides Iruka) for cheering Naruto up after Jirayas death. His master, Ausma died too. They share the same fate.
There is no difference to Hinata.
Why Hinata "cured" Narutos shoulder:
- Because she was right next to him
- Because Naruto said it a while before
- Because the Hyuuga fighting style works a lot with those "body points" (sorry, I don't know how to name it correctly), for this, you have to know the human body very well. It would be no suprise if she knows how to put a shoulder back in place.
Again, this is just supporting. At the moment, everyone of Narutos friends is acting like a true hero/heroine. In this chapter, there is nothing what makes Hinata look special.
#360
Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:14 PM
Other people's bad behaviour is no excuse for you to behave just as badly. You are obviously welcome to have your own opinions about everything and you don't have to agree with me. But I think that all of us might want to try to calm down and seriously think how we are coming across.
fireandice, fair enough, I guess. We have different take on her. Of course there are legimate reasons to not like Hinata but if you look around a while you start seeing that sometimes Hinata tends to warp into something unrecognisable, into some weirdo stalker and obsessed little weakling who took a leak on Neji's cooling body. Who is that girl?

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