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[Gravenimage]

It's the same causality. While not the same in terms of actions wise, the same because it was for Naruto.



And Sakura isn't? This is the biggest argument NH fans try to put on us saying that Sakura doesn't love Naruto when clearly she does. They say you can tell Hinata loves Naruto because she is willing to do anything for him, but if Sakura does the same thing it's not considered love? That's the contradiction the argument always has.

What if I said Hinata loves Naruto in a motherly type way? Hey, it has happened in other manga and Japanese media. In FFVIII, Quistis thought she was in love with Squall, but she realized that the love she felt was not being IN love, but more of a sisterly/motherly love.



Then why didn't she go after Sasuke earlier? This is the biggest problem with this argument is that she could have left just like Sasuke did and go after him, but no she stayed with Naruto. Why? We at the NS FC believe is because she loves Naruto just as much even if she is slow to pick up on it. Noticed she didn't really do anything until AFTER she was told how much it was affecting Naruto. If she was just focused on Sasuke, why didn't she go after him before when she had the chance? Why did she stick by Naruto instead of going out on her own?

We also have the scene where Naruto transformed and she ran to him screaming that she wanted to take care of Sasuke FOR HIM. Because she didn't want him to make the sacrifice because of her. Why did Hinata jumped in the fray of Pein? For Naruto. This double standard that if Hinata does it, it is love, but if Sakura does it it is for her own selfish desires is what pisses me off more than anything. Why is it that when Sakura does something FOR Naruto it is selfish, but if Hinata does something FOR Naruto it is true love and nobility?

You may not say it, but you're implying it.

How about this: I am going to show how Hinata's confession and how Sakura's confession are similar on a metaphorical sense.

Imagine Pein as the POAL. Naruto says he can handle it and he doesn't want anyone involved. It is his job. The spikes that Pein put in him are the failures to keep those promises whether it be to Sakura, or himself, or Sasuke. He begins thinking he can't find the answers or doesn't have them. Hinata jumped in cause she saw Naruto being overwhelmed by Pein and tried to take the matters into her own hands to relieve him of the burden. Replace Hinata with Sakura who is seeing Naruto being pulled down by the "pain" of not fulfilling his promises and failing at it. So she tries to take the matters in her own hands to relive Naruto of his burden. Both caused great emotional trauma on Naruto which caused him to lose himself for a moment. In Pein arc, he turned into 9-tails, Sakura's confession, he just fainted from stress. I could go into more detail on how Minato and Sai share the voice of reason inside Naruto, but it's kind of obvious. After he woke up, he has a resolve and he knew what he needed to do.



How can you become MORE evil? I see people use this term a lot, but I don't think Sasuke can be "more" evil than he is now. Evil people do things either because they want power or they want revenge. Anti-heroes do it for self-profit. While this sounds similar it's not the same because Sasuke doesn't do it cause it is "profitable" and Anti-heroes only does it if it is profitable to them regardless if it is a good or bad deed.

And let's not even go into a "Renegade" or "Paragon."

And again, if it was FOR Sasuke then why didn't she do it earlier? She could easily left the village too to search for him, but she didn't. Yeah she would be a missing-nin, but who says that all missing-nin are evil? She could have just said this is something she had to do and that was it. It's not like killing a Kage or capturing the tailed beast for world domination.

And since Sasuke did all this bad stuff even before Sakura ventured out on her own, I am going to assume that he can't get anymore evil. She didn't try to reason with him, she went straight into trying to kill him.



It can't be denied either. She didn't want to burden Naruto anymore than she had. She never knew how much of a burden it was on Naruto until Sai pointed it out to her. And since Naruto is not forthcoming with his emotions to her, she had no idea.

I could easily put up an argument of why Hinata is selfish using the simple logic that Hinata did what she did because of what she wanted. Not because Naruto needed help. Hinata can't have Naruto if he is dead. Not because she did it for him, but for herself. However, I am not going to say that because that is a negative way on how to look at things. I rather look at a more positive outlook and give people the benefit of the doubt.

Sakura didn't do what she did because she loves Sasuke. She did it all because she loves Naruto. That's why she confessed. Not because it was burdening her or Sasuke, but because it was burdening Naruto. Her mind was on Naruto and his well being. She cares deeply for him and she did things because she wanted Naruto to be okay. She cried when the Akatsuki was after him. She was concerned when he transformed. Whenever the thought of losing Naruto crossed her mind, she did anything that came to her mind to try and prevent it from happening. Even if it meant sacrificing herself or putting herself in harm's way and she did it without thinking about it. She never thought twice about helping Naruto. Does this sound selfish to you? Does this sound like she was doing this all for Sasuke's sake?

She doesn't want to keep making mistakes. She doesn't want to sit on the side-lines and watch her lose everything that is important to her. Just like Hinata in the Pein arc. She didn't want to lose Naruto, no matter the cost. It is the same reaction and the same reasoning that came into their minds.

If she doesn't love Naruto, then why did she confess? To say she did to play with Naruto's emotions to get him to break off the promise is a down right lie and I stand against this way of thinking. People say it is a lie because they want to show Sakura being this evil, selfish, corrupted b*tch, but she is not. She just wants to do the right thing for Naruto. She wants Naruto to be safe and she doesn't want to lose him to anyone. Not even to Hinata from the way she is acting. Plus as someone mentioned, sorry if I forgot who you are, why would she confess if she knew Hinata loves Naruto? She knows that Naruto loves her too.

James your post was awesome I love how you compare Hinata's sacrifice with Sakura's confession bravo.

[lord287]

How can you become MORE evil? I see people use this term a lot, but I don't think Sasuke can be "more" evil than he is now. Evil people do things either because they want power or they want revenge. Anti-heroes do it for self-profit. While this sounds similar it's not the same because Sasuke doesn't do it cause it is "profitable" and Anti-heroes only does it if it is profitable to them regardless if it is a good or bad deed.

Well by more evil i meant she did not want him to commit more crimes like kill someone else or something like that!!

moreover if she really confessed truly to naruto why the heck did she thought about sasuke in chapter 540! I didn't see naruto in her thoughts their even not a small image! The only person when asked about her love she got the image of sasuke although she might be sad by seeing it but i think she was sad not because she used to love a person who became bad, but because she still loves a person who is on a wrong path!(otherwise kishi would not have put sasuke on this page. I consider it okay if she was just thinking about sasuke sometime else like this but she thought about him when she was particularly asked whom she loved!)

Otherwise i totally get to agree with U james!

Edited by lord287, 15 April 2012 - 01:11 PM.

[narulsaku]

ok sasuke cannot be more evil. And its his revenge. And yes what do you guys think about this. "harry should end up with hormine. "

[James S Cassidy]

Well by more evil i meant she did not want him to commit more crimes like kill someone else or something like that!!

The weird part about that is you mention to kill someone else...what if that someone else was Naruto? She could be wanting to prevent the fight altogether if she could do it, but she realizes that she can't. She tried and realized this is something that has to happen and only they two can figure it out.

moreover if she really confessed truly to naruto why the heck did she thought about sasuke in chapter 540! I didn't see naruto in her thoughts their even not a small image! The only person when asked about her love she got the image of sasuke although she might be sad by seeing it but i think she was sad not because she used to love a person who became bad, but because she still loves a person who is on a wrong path!(otherwise kishi would not have put sasuke on this page. I consider it okay if she was just thinking about sasuke sometime else like this but she thought about him when she was particularly asked whom she loved!)

It's funny that you mentioned that because the guy said "who you love must be a great guy". "A great guy" Sasuke is not and seeing as how she thought of him in this dark tone with evil surrounding him, you can see that she is starting to think that he is not this great guy she thought he was. I mean, I get what you're saying and it has merit, but she could have embellished her thoughts and thought "Wow, he[sasuke] really is a great guy. I must fight for him."

Although, if you want to think about it. Look how Karin swoons over Sasuke. She embellishes her thoughts around him, praises him, and thinks he is the greatest guy in the world. (She still might if what she did wasn't an act.) You think Sakura would be acting the same way or somewhat similar manner where she sticks to her feelings. Anyway.

So we have this confusing scene that neither confirms nor denies what she feels for Sasuke. Cause you got this, if she is over him while is she still thinking of him, but in hindsight why doesn't she seem him a lighter tone? So it's a very confusing scene that I don't think anybody can answer. There is just not enough info yet to confirm or deny anything. However there is one fact that makes everything different. Sasuke just doesn't love Sakura. Even if she was head over heels for him still, he is not going to be with her. It's the same with NaruHina. Because you don't have the other party even attempting to make a confirmation of a requited love, it comes to it that it's just not going to happen ever.

My belief is that Sakura is getting over her feelings for Sasuke entirely. She sees him in this negative light, she understand he is not coming back, she realizes that Sasuke has been the burden of both her AND Naruto's life. Any person who sees all this should see that there is nothing that can change was has been done and she knows this. Whatever feelings she stilll has, she is getting rid of them. She is thinking twice about it. Thinking why she fell in love with him in the first place.

Remember when I said that when it comes to Naruto she never really thinks twice about it? It was never a matter of questioning whether or not it was the right choice, she knew it was already the right choice when it came to Naruto. Here we have her, thinking twice about all her choices when it comes to Sasuke. This is why she never really thought of Naruto is because she already knew what she felt. Sasuke, she is conflicted. Whatever memories she has of him, it was never good memories. Not images of him smiling or running up to her saying "Hey, Sakura." And it's not like she never thinks about Naruto.

When I keep looking at that panel in 540 I can just see the questions running in her head: "Do I really love him? Is it that great guy I thought I knew? He doesn't look like it." She is facing the reality that the man she thought he was, isn't. Whenever I see someone thinking on something specific with a grimace on their face, I always see them as them re-thinking about it or thinking twice about it and questioning it. It's also something that happened with Naruto when he thought about the team 7 picture shattering. If the fanbase itself is questioning the scene, imagine what might be going through the poor girl's head.

I guess this is why I am not afraid of SasuSaku anymore. No matter what evidence they think pops up, Sasuke is just not going to fall for Sakura. Can't have SasuSaku ship if Sasuke is not on board. Being that we are coming to the end of the manga, I doubt anything is going to change. If it does, I will eat my headband.

Otherwise i totally get to agree with U james!

Thank you.

You know, I have this strong burning passion inside of me right now. Feels like I can answer any and all questions people throw at me about NS. Is this how you feel all the time, Ciardha?

Edited by James S Cassidy, 15 April 2012 - 09:48 PM.

[lord287]

When I keep looking at that panel in 540 I can just see the questions running in her head: "Do I really love him? Is it that great guy I thought I knew? He doesn't look like it." She is facing the reality that the man she thought he was, isn't. Whenever I see someone thinking on something specific with a grimace on their face, I always see them as them re-thinking about it or thinking twice about it and questioning it. It's also something that happened with Naruto when he thought about the team 7 picture shattering. If the fanbase itself is questioning the scene, imagine what might be going through the poor girl's head.

I guess this is why I am not afraid of SasuSaku anymore. No matter what evidence they think pops up, Sasuke is just not going to fall for Sakura. Can't have SasuSaku ship if Sasuke is not on board. Being that we are coming to the end of the manga, I doubt anything is going to change. If it does, I will eat my headband.




Thank you.

You know, I have this strong burning passion inside of me right now. Feels like I can answer any and all questions people throw at me about NS. Is this how you feel all the time, Ciadhra?

I am kind of still not satisfied. Because i am 99.99% sure of it that sasuke has to return to the village or atleast become normal again because if he doesn't whole manga became kind of useless! The only question i have is IF sasuke turns back good will sakura chose naruto over him or not! Considering chapter 540 i don't think she will chose naruto and if she choses naruto just because she comes to realise that sasuke can never fall for her it will make naruto a second choice, which i really don't want to see happening! It will be similar case such as naruto coming to hinata and chosing her just because he sees sakura wil never come to love him!(which i don't think naruto will ever do) but considering sakura I really doubt how has kishi planned it all for them to come together in end because currently for me atleast all pairings have got very complicated, and sakura's love towards naruto has to be proved again for me atleast because chapter 540 was a very huge anti-Ns moment for me atleast!! I hope kishi has thought it all well and don't make silly pairings happen in end!!!

[The Tax-Man]

second choice

One question: Do you have any idea whatsoever what second choice means? No, he wouldn't be a second choice. Second choice means she'd still love Sasuke. I don't need to go into how she never really did.

Edited by The Tax-Man, 15 April 2012 - 05:11 PM.

[lord287]

One question: Do you have any idea whatsoever what second choice means? No he wouldn't be a second choice. Second choice means she'd still love Sasuke. I don't need to go into how she never really did.

well i very well know what second choice means and don't u think, if she choses naruto only if she comes to know that sasuke can never love her will make naruto a second choice. Because to me atleast sakura still loves sasuke as I saw it in chapter 540. Definitely their can be some other meaning if thought very deeply about that panel which many people here are providing me with, but when I read that chapter the first thing coming to my mind was sakura still loves sasuke! By reading the thoughts of people here i definitely am confused a bit now but not fully sure that sakura is not in love with sasuke anymore! So if she choses naruto even if she loves sasuke like she loved him earlier a little bit also it will make naruto a second choice in my views atleast!

Edited by lord287, 15 April 2012 - 04:55 PM.

[The Tax-Man]

well i very well know what second choice means and don't u think, if she choses naruto only if she comes to know that sasuke can never love her will make naruto a second choice. Because to me atleast sakura still loves sasuke as I saw it in chapter 540. Definitely their can be some other meaning if thought very deeply about that panel which many people here are providing me with, but when I read that chapter the first thing coming to my mind was sakura still loves sasuke! By reading the thoughts of people here i definitely am confused a bit now but not fully sure that sakura is not in love with sasuke anymore! So if she choses naruto even if she loves sasuke like she loved him earlier a little bit also it will make naruto a second choice in my views atleast!

Maybe because that panel was teasing and pairing trolling? Don't base the whole future of the pairing on one panel made solely to troll.

She isn't that stupid. She would never go with Naruto if her feelings were not resolved already. She already knows Sasuke will never love her. I would argue that she never 'loved' him anyway. Love is complicated and I can assure you that a 12 yr old fangirl wouldn't truly love Sasuke. Any further arguments are null and void because of that very fact.

Question about something that has been bugging me lately. After Sakura told Naruto she loved him, in a later chapter, the lover-nin told Sakura that whoever she loved must of been a lucky guy, and she thought of Sasuke. If Sakura told Naruto she loved him, then why did she only think of Sasuke when the lover-nin made Sakura think about who she loved? Sure she thought of him in sad manner, so sure her love for him is fading, but why did she not think of Naruto in her head? She said she loved him.

Refer to the shiptease part. It's so vague that I say we don't even think about it too hard.

Edited by The Tax-Man, 15 April 2012 - 05:10 PM.

[FoolishYoungling]

Question about something that has been bugging me lately. After Sakura told Naruto she loved him, in a later chapter, the lover-nin told Sakura that whoever she loved must of been a lucky guy, and she thought of Sasuke. If Sakura told Naruto she loved him, then why did she only think of Sasuke when the lover-nin made Sakura think about who she loved? Sure she thought of him in sad manner, so sure her love for him is fading, but why did she not think of Naruto in her head? She said she loved him.

[James S Cassidy]

I am kind of still not satisfied. Because i am 99.99% sure of it that sasuke has to return to the village or atleast become normal again because if he doesn't whole manga became kind of useless! The only question i have is IF sasuke turns back good will sakura chose naruto over him or not! Considering chapter 540 i don't think she will chose naruto and if she choses naruto just because she comes to realise that sasuke can never fall for her it will make naruto a second choice, which i really don't want to see happening! It will be similar case such as naruto coming to hinata and chosing her just because he sees sakura wil never come to love him!(which i don't think naruto will ever do) but considering sakura I really doubt how has kishi planned it all for them to come together in end because currently for me atleast all pairings have got very complicated, and sakura's love towards naruto has to be proved again for me atleast because chapter 540 was a very huge anti-Ns moment for me atleast!! I hope kishi has thought it all well and don't make silly pairings happen in end!!!

I respect your opinion, but I will say I strongly disagree. I am 99.9% sure Sasuke is not returning ever. You seem to base around the fact that Sakura might still be shallow like she was in part 1. She loves Naruto. There is not doubt that she loves him. When she gets rid of the feelings she has for Sasuke is the day she can move on from them.

The thing about Kishimoto is, as he explained himself, is that he never really plans out the journey of the manga. He does plan the checkpoints though. He knows where he wants to go, but not how to get there. So the course might alter a bit if he gets inspiration. I know I have said this a million times, but it is a really strong point people forget. Kishimoto said the final battle of the manga will be Sasuke vs Naruto or one of the final battles. If Sasuke returns to the village before that and becomes a good guy, there will be no fight. I am pretty sure many readers here are expecting this fight to occur which is why Sasuke is not coming back other than to fight.

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The whole thing with Sakura knowing Sasuke doesn't want her...I think she figured this out a while ago. The fact that he tried to kill her twice would be a good indication and the fact that she saw how crazy he is. If she still thinks Sasuke wants her after that, then I think she is the dumbest girl on the planet. However, I don't think she is that stupid or that much infatuated with him to just ignore the fact that he tried to kill her.

No, seriously, how can you forgive someone that tried to kill you? Can you do it? I know I can't. At least not before for a long, long, looooooooooooooong time after that. You bring up 540, but there are so many other chapters that just go against that chapter itself. So many times where she seems to completely forget about Sasuke and focus it all on Naruto. What do these chapters mean? The beginning of Shippuden when Naruto came back, she seemed to have no thought of Sasuke at all, but she sure had Naruto on the brain. Quite a few times in fact.

She had a depressed look on her face when Hinata confessed her love. If Naruto means nothing, then why did she get upset about that? Is that an Anti-NH moment? Sakura is complicated as all teenagers are. This is what writers call a human hero. The fact that they go through these times of sexual frustration and teen angst give the characters depth. She is slowly figuring out who she is and what she wants and she is trying to sort it all out.

I expected Sakura to think about Sasuke the way she has been because it shows her getting over him. When you have the character just drop their feelings for a character without the process of showing it, it tends to feel fake. I know it seems like her thoughts are lingering, but look at how other stories handled it. They characters don't just drop their emotions, they correct them. They think about it many of times and then make this choice based on reassessing the situation.

I believe she is realizing that she was only in love with the image of Sasuke and his popularity among the ninja clans. When he showed her his true colors, she is waking up from this dream she was living in and realizing she was just a shallow heart for him. Just like Ino was, but it seems Ino might be falling for Sai a little bit. All the girls loved Sasuke, but they never knew him. They never knew how corrupted he was. Even now, Ino has not seen the real Sasuke. Do you think she still wants him too? Let's not forget she cried too when the news of Sasuke attacking the Kage summit was announced and he was branded a criminal.

I am going to bring this up again: If Kishimoto wanted Sakura and Sasuke to be together, then why didn't he have Sakura go after Sasuke herself from the beginning? Why have her stick with Naruto for all that time? This is what confuses me. As well as the logic on why, if NaruHina was supposed to be the canon pairing, didn't he have them together more often? We know he could have done it and made it believable, but he didn't take that route. Why? Because he planned something else to happen. Something much more heartfelt to happen between Naruto and Sakura. A whole bunch of back and forth process leading up to a grand
moment for these two to get together. At least that's how I see it happening.

It's one of the things that no one can truly answer. If NaruHina and SasuSaku were supposed to happen, then why go through all this drama between Naruto and Sakura? Wouldn't that just be a waste of time and energy to set all that up? I think it shows that Naruto and Sakura relationship can survive anything. Even through harshest times when it seems hopeless they still stuck by each other.

Question about something that has been bugging me lately. After Sakura told Naruto she loved him, in a later chapter, the lover-nin told Sakura that whoever she loved must of been a lucky guy, and she thought of Sasuke. If Sakura told Naruto she loved him, then why did she only think of Sasuke when the lover-nin made Sakura think about who she loved? Sure she thought of him in sad manner, so sure her love for him is fading, but why did she not think of Naruto in her head? She said she loved him.

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I actually covered this a few times in the three big long post I made. I also mentioned it up there on my opinion of it too. ^^^ So, yeah just read that.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 15 April 2012 - 08:56 PM.

[FoolishYoungling]

I am going to bring this up again: If Kishimoto wanted Sakura and Sasuke to be together, then why didn't he have Sakura go after Sasuke herself from the beginning? Why have her stick with Naruto for all that time? This is what confuses me. As well as the logic on why, if NaruHina was supposed to be the canon pairing, didn't he have them together more often? We know he could have done it and made it believable, but he didn't take that route. Why? Because he planned something else to happen. Something much more heartfelt to happen between Naruto and Sakura. A whole bunch of back and forth process leading up to a grand
moment for these two to get together. At least that's how I see it happening.

It's one of the things that no one can truly answer. If NaruHina and SasuSaku were supposed to happen, then why go through all this drama between Naruto and Sakura? Wouldn't that just be a waste of time and energy to set all that up? I think it's shows that Naruto and Sakura relationship can survive anything. Even through harshest times when it seems hopeless they still stuck by each other.

This.. just this.

Okay, another question. Why did Sasuke say "thank you" to Sakura before he left? It was just so... dramatic.

Edited by FoolishYoungling , 15 April 2012 - 08:53 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

Okay, another question. Why did Sasuke say "thank you" to Sakura before he left? It was just so... dramatic.

Sasuke: Thank you, Sakura.....for giving me one more good reason to leave this place and possibly burn it to the ground next time I am here. My god, these fangirls....*smack*

^^^from the director's cut DVD extra. lol

Okay, I am just kidding. Truth is we may never know why he said thank you. Perhaps it was a rouse to get her to lower her guard. Perhaps it was a sincere compliment to her for her willing to sacrifice her well-being for him. Sasuke wasn't always evil, but he sure turned into a good villain. It was the last bit of humanity he had left to give and so he gave it to her. I am not sure what effect it will have later down the road if it will even be brought up at all. And if she knew anything about the bench scene, she will know it or find out it was not Sasuke, but Naruto.

[merryGOflava]

Sasuke: Thank you, Sakura.....for giving me one more good reason to leave this place and possibly burn it to the ground next time I am here. My god, these fangirls....*smack*

^^^from the director's cut DVD extra. lol

Okay, I am just kidding. Truth is we may never know why he said thank you. Perhaps it was a rouse to get her to lower her guard. Perhaps it was a sincere compliment to her for her willing to sacrifice her well-being for him. Sasuke wasn't always evil, but he sure turned into a good villain. It was the last bit of humanity he had left to give and so he gave it to her. I am not sure what effect it will have later down the road if it will even be brought up at all. And if she knew anything about the bench scene, she will know it or find out it was not Sasuke, but Naruto.

no really? XD

[Gravenimage]

James you are right about everything but one thing you have forgotten to mention. At the beginning in part 1 Sakura wanted Naruto to bring back Sasuke for herself, for her own selfish reasons. Then she wanted to help Naruto bring him back to the village so that team seven be reunited again, now she only wants Naruto to bring him back because she wants Naruto to be happy, she knows he will be happy if he's back in Konoha. Right now Sakura doesn't want him back not for herself but for Naruto, it's about of seeing him happy, can anyone say from selfish to selfless?

[redragon88]

Sasuke: Thank you, Sakura.....for giving me one more good reason to leave this place and possibly burn it to the ground next time I am here. My god, these fangirls....*smack*

^^^from the director's cut DVD extra. lol

Okay, I am just kidding. Truth is we may never know why he said thank you. Perhaps it was a rouse to get her to lower her guard. Perhaps it was a sincere compliment to her for her willing to sacrifice her well-being for him. Sasuke wasn't always evil, but he sure turned into a good villain. It was the last bit of humanity he had left to give and so he gave it to her. I am not sure what effect it will have later down the road if it will even be brought up at all. And if she knew anything about the bench scene, she will know it or find out it was not Sasuke, but Naruto.

If I had to complete Sasuke's sentence it would be "Thank you for caring"

Even if Sasuke chose to leave Team 7 behind he appreciated the time he spent with them, even if it was unconsciously. They were the first true bond he had ever since the Uchiha massacre. That's why he thanked Sakura and that's also why he chose not to kill Naruto when he was unconscious after their battle at the Valley of the End.

[James S Cassidy]

James you are right about everything but one thing you have forgotten to mention. At the beginning in part 1 Sakura wanted Naruto to bring back Sasuke for herself, for her own selfish reasons. Then she wanted to help Naruto bring him back to the village so that team seven be reunited again, now she only wants Naruto to bring him back because she wants Naruto to be happy, she knows he will be happy if he's back in Konoha. Right now Sakura doesn't want him back not for herself but for Naruto, it's about of seeing him happy, can anyone say from selfish to selfless?

You're right. Seeing how she is now, her mind set is not bringing back Sasuke at all since her plan was to kill Sasuke. You did bring up something that just gave the idea a little more backing. Bravo to you, good sir. The fact that she changed views is another reason why it shows she cares for Naruto. The whole selfish to selfless is brilliant.

The whole development of longing for Sasuke to come back because of her love for him, to wanting him to come back because of Team 7, to wanting Sasuke to come back because she wants Naruto to succeed is a pretty good indication on how her mind has progressed. She is not that little kid anymore that is striving for attention. She has all the attention in the world. Now, it's just finding the reasons to be happy. Little did she realize at the time that what made her the happiest was right in front of her this whole time. Sasuke doesn't make her happy. In fact, I can even imagine her happiest moment with him was nothing, but smoke and mirrors. A lie she told herself to believe what she didn't want to admit.

Sakura has chosen what side she wants to be on and it is standing right next to Naruto. The last thought we got from her proclaiming to be with him no matter what was when I knew that she is over Sasuke. The fact that she is still standing next to him now is proof enough that she loves him. She chose Naruto over Sasuke. That speaks more than anything in this manga and she will always be next to Naruto from now on. She has no intention to bring Sasuke back anymore. She is letting Naruto guide her and whatever happens, whatever choice he makes, she will right standing next to him. Beautiful.

If that ain't love, I don't know what is.

"That's when she said I don't hate you, boy, I just want to save you while there's still something left to save."

If I had to complete Sasuke's sentence it would be "Thank you for caring"

Even if Sasuke chose to leave Team 7 behind he appreciated the time he spent with them, even if it was unconsciously. They were the first true bond he had ever since the Uchiha massacre. That's why he thanked Sakura and that's also why he chose not to kill Naruto when he was unconscious after their battle at the Valley of the End.

Yeah, probably, but I wonder how this will affect the future. Will this be brought up again or has it become a apart of a history that Sasuke chose to ignore completely? Maybe the hatred and revenge consumed him so much that any humanity he had left died on that day.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 15 April 2012 - 11:32 PM.

[pharix]

just FYI, Naruto wasn't "about to get killed"... pretty sure the host has to remain alive for the extracting

and yeah, with all the NaruSaku development Kishi put in I think it'd be pretty bad to switch to NaruHina :/

Edited by pharix, 16 April 2012 - 01:07 AM.

[Phantom_999]

just FYI, Naruto wasn't "about to get killed"... pretty sure the host has to remain alive for the extracting

and yeah, with all the NaruSaku development Kishi put in I think it'd be pretty bad to switch to NaruHina :/

Yeah wouldn't it? Sure he has just change his mind, But that's 10 YEARS he's never gonna get back. He spent all that time on NaruSaku, Why SHOULD he face heel turn and make these random shallow couples out of the blue? He wasted his tome for nothing, And NS has so much going for them it makes no sense for him flush it down.

[ciardha]

James you are right about everything but one thing you have forgotten to mention. At the beginning in part 1 Sakura wanted Naruto to bring back Sasuke for herself, for her own selfish reasons.

I don't think even there that applies- it's more like she was in the state of complete emotional collapse and grabbed onto the person she realized was her emotional life raft. And also back up to Sakura's confession to Sasuke, look what she says to him to try to keep him from what she knew was a path of self destruction- it's clear she knows it's a one sided love: "You must hate me..." and her desperate plea about what she told Sasuke she was willing to do to save him from plunging completely into the darkness is also self-sacrificing- very naively so, but from that part of herself none the less....

The naive young girl was crushed, but a stronger, much more realistic young woman was born from that experience. That young woman took her first determined steps the moment she promised Naruto she would get stronger and the next time they would bring back Sasuke together. You can already see she's moving on from the young naive girl with the one sided crush on Sasuke even then. By the time she walks into Tsunade's office Naruto and Sasuke are fully equal in her feelings. By the beginning of part 2 it's all about Naruto, the bond to Sasuke is in small part the remnant of her old naive feelings, but mostly about the intense bond she knows Naruto and Sasuke shared. That is what she wants to see again when she talks about seeing Team 7 together again. She knows both boys need it.

[redragon88]

I went to read Narutopedia just to see what the fuss was about. Gotta say, I totally understand now why some of you were upset. They completely overplay Hinata's relationship description to Naruto, to the point of including filler, freaking filler. Then where the hell is the talk about how Naruto still loves Sakura according to filler episode 235, it's nowhere to be found.

And you know what takes the cherry on the pie, they completely delete any mention on how Yamato implied that Sakura's feelings for Naruto are more than friendship. I understand if they want to support certain character in any way they can, but to go as far as to delete freaking CANON material is just going to far. Next thing you know they'll start deleting any mention of how Sasuke has tried to kill Sakura and say he's secretly in love with her.

It's like they're on a mission to avoid any mention of Sakura's feeling for Naruto and emphasize it as just some friendship that will never be anything more. They even describe it as a sibling like relationship..... ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?

Sorry everyone, I guess reading that affected me more than I realized. But hey this is just done by some fans so is obviously not something to care about.