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[Otaru]

Here's what I posted in the mangafox forum, hope someone agrees, or gets some relief. As for me, I'm pretty calm by now since I suppose her feelings were pushed a LOT in the right direction by that guy in 539/540

To your rhetorical question (I take it): 'how come she knows about Naruto's feelings and still loves Sasuke' there's only one answer.
Where's the proof? As I already mentioned, in 539 she says that she already likes someone. Some people (including me) were sure about it being Naruto. That was WRONG. But, she is NOT sad or depressed in 539 and she also answers that stranger WITHOUT HESITATION. Only in 540 she STARTS thinking of Sasuke, AT ALL. The proof is the fact that her state of mind CHANGES INSTANTLY AFTER THAT STRANGER SAYS THOSE PAINFUL THINGS and she has a horrible picture of Sasuke in mind.
In short: 539 > main goal shaking the stranger off (she's surprised and doesn't give Sasuke OR Naruto any thought). 540 > She immediately SUFFERS from what she and that stranger (referring to Sasuke with 'Great Guy') BLURTED OUT.
Her expression conveys the feeling as if she were shackled by a thousand chains at once, not being able to move.
That stranger is NEUTRAL, he's not Naruto (confession, promise blablabla) BUT he reminds Sakura how painful it is to get rejected, knowing there's someone else your dear person likes, this only enhances Sakura's guilty conscience since Naruto's been in this situation for a long time.
MAIN PROOF: look at the panel where Sakura says: Thank you..but there's someone else I....(chapter 539 page 17)
She's smiling there. So that stranger KEEPS TALKING right after chapter 539 and leaves shortly after poking around in her already painful memories, FORCING her to associate Sasuke with a flame in the background.
That's definitely not the flame of LOVE lol
Last argument: Why should Naruto cross her mind if Sasuke (even if she doesn't love him anymore) is actually the one in DANGER. Naruto has a whole Nation supporting him, that tries to keep him OUT OF BATTLES. Sasuke on the other hand is EAGER to show his strength and eradicate everyone.
Maybe she only thinks of him as a past love in 540.

It's true there is no obvious proof of it, because it's not litteraly said or else, but come on, how can it be more obvious that she still loves Sasuke ?
I want to see Naruto and her together as much as you, but we can't be fooled here. Someone declared to her, and told her the man she loves must be awesome. And then, she thinks about Sasuke with as terribly sad face. It's telling us that she still loves him, and that she's ashamed of it, and that it makes her terribly sad.
To me, it can be two things :
1/ she will always love him no matter what, and wait until he returns to Konoha (it will happen in a way, he will be redeemed in a way i'm sure of it)
2/ she will realise Sasuke was never the one she wanted (I don't know when, maybe soon), and realise it's Naruto her soulmate. (I truly still thinks it's what Kishimoto is telling us)
Sakura's situation now, makes me think that she's actually through more character evolution.

I think once again people over analyze small moments like what we saw today before seeing the actual manga. Sakura is still growing up and is very confused about how she feels toward many things. Her relationship to Naruto being no exception. Just give her time. Naruto I have no doubt will come through on his end. The first priority is to fight the war and as in most stories such as this the love fully develops after the war. But hey some small moments are welcome.

By the way I just joined the forums for the first time after being an avid reader and fellow individual interested in Narusaku.

Welcome. I kind of agree with you ^^ it seems she's still growing. It's just, i thought she wasn't in love with Sasuke anymore. That's what disappointing me. Naruto was right, she was lying to herself, indeed about Sasuke. About Naruto, i think everything she told him is the truth, we all saw she was feeling that way around Naruto. But maybe... maybe what she told him was what she wanted to feel, and not really the truth. But it's not a lie either. It's something else. I've always though she's a big mess. It's like that since the very beginning. She would have stayed alone without Ino.

For everyone here who's still focusing on the interview: forget it!
Just like Otaru wrote in the 'What if we lose?' thread: 'lol i think if narusaku actually doesn't happen, i think i would go back to school to learn again how to analyse a text or a story LOL' <<<I totally agree, I'm also confident in my skills and if it doesn't turn out as I expect, then I should reconsider my decision to study a language or two after graduating. The pages mentioned below are my absolutely favorite ones. If the quality of the irony Kishimoto created there SLUMPS DOWN (due to NaruHina ) my respect for him will do the same.


Now compare panel 1+3(!!!) on this page>>>>

http://www.mangafox....52/c484/16.html

with panel 1+3(!!!) on this page>>>>

http://www.mangafox....53/c501/13.html

AND adjust the picture SO THAT Minato's and Naruto's figures practically OVERLAP. Open two tabs and switch from one to the other as fast as you can NaruSaku JUMPS RIGHT INTO YOUR FACE. Also notice that Sakura has her eyes WIDE OPEN and LOOKS UP TO KUSHINA >>> (not sure is this is possible with a copy of 'Jump', but with some imagination, why not? hahaha)

Watch carefully and tell my what you see. I see a bright future for NaruSaku. Naruto and Sakura are drawn bigger than Minato/Kushina, they have practically GROWN INTO THEIR FATE.

This overlapping issue is something that reminds me of !!!Resonance/Mesomerism!!!, which exists mostly in organic chemistry and is based on 'delocalized electrons'.
You also try to imagine an overlapping of two or more mesomeric 'lewis structures' to get a better understanding of REALITY (or you use more complicated scientific models...I absolutely HATE chemistry).

The saying 'The chemistry is right.' fits well in this context.
My point should be clear by now, just keep an eye on Minato's and Naruto's/Kushina's and Sakura's postures and Sakura's and Kushina's facial expressions and you are gonna see REALITY and NOT NaruHina

There's yet to be found a comparably EPIC scene with NaruHina hahaha

Well thank you for quoting me lol ^^ you remembered well ! And yeah about this, its really too BIG for a resonance !

I was just reading up on the competition and man they think they won this already. Calling it canon and all that sht.
It funny cause it seems like all the SS fans and NH fans are together vs us. Its like they just want to see us lose, it's shameful that would rather see us lose the, them actually win. Whatever I like those odds haha.

Although someone did mention that this is shonen, so their might not be any pairings or just illusions to pairings.

I don't think so. It's true it's a shônen, but Kishi wrote about romance before. And it seems he wants to talk about generations, parents, children... it's obvious there will be couples, at least Naruto will get a girl.

Ok now we know for sure that Sakura is still in love with Sasuke, but on the other hand we have seen growing fondness of hers for Naruto, during whole series. She is hard to get, like every other goal that naruto has set for himself (sasuke, end the war, hatred, be with sakura-chan)but she is worth the trouble. If girl you really really like rejects you
dont lower you tail and go away sulking, and if you know she is worth of your love stick to her and show her how much you are a good guy to be with, no nicy nicy but strong firm guy that has his opinions and goals in his life. I think naruto has that and has shown that to sakura many times, she must come to terms of that. This also shows that Kishimoto will not let go of her love for Sasuke without milking ss pairing to the end to keep ratings up, on the other hand if she would to stop loving him emidiately than everyone would be saying oh she is really ficle as the autumn sky she transfered so easily to Naruto, she is a b****. And really in my inner thoughts it wouldev bugged me all the time, was she really in love with Naruto, or she just transfered from sasuke to naruto when there was no hope left for her and sasuke, cause naruto was a nice guy, bringing her safety etc.

If we look in real life when we see onesided crush where one side that was hurted and rejected goes to other party that is safe, and marries that guy, but always fantasys about that cool guy, and wondering what could be if she was with him. We would not want that Sakura to be with Naruto, cause the Naruto would always be her second choice, that is so wrong. It is nice that Kishi is showing how sakura is little by little growing out of love for sasuke, only to fully accept narutos love, and naruto as a person, who is so much better than sasuke. If sakura were to end with sasuke, i wouldnt think that she is great and smart and strong character that i think now of her, the best manga heroin in my opinion, than she would be just shallow and stereotypical.

On the other hand we see on that panel that she is realising bit by bit how this Sasuke is not the old sasuke, but she still loves him, but she knows it is wrong to be in love with that kind of guy, she strugles, and as many people said she tranfered from girl who is defending sasuke to a girl who understands he is a bad guy, that is great for narusaku development. She still isnt fully aware about her love for naruto. You cant judge her, cause many women who are beaten by their boyfriends of even they have been tried to be murdered, they still think they can help that guy, many sad marriages end up like that, where girl is thinking she can save the guy, and in the end that all ends up in tragedy.

Only when others around are hurt (children) than that person understands that she must move and grow out of that (i think naruto in lifethreatning situation will bring her to those terms)and go away from that guy, to finally realise, is her love really love or infatuation, or attachment to what person was once or completely brainwashed by the guy so she thinks he is all there is, and she must love him until they both die, like faraon would carry his young wifes in tomb to die with him. But as we all remember kishi depicting sakura as strong and determined girl so that also means she is strong in her decisions,strong in thinking who she loves otherwise she would be weak if she should sudennly transfer to naruto without SHE HERSELF realising that she really loves naruto. If her love for Sasuke was this strong and ongoing over nothing, than you could imagine how stronger her love will be for naruto when she realises it. Than nothing could happen that could shatter that kind of strong love, that is based on real situation and friendship, selfsacrificing etc.

So i think this is a buildup that Kishi is making, so called "great love" from sakura to sasuke only to be replaced by stronger love,real love for Naruto. And the moment when sakura will realise how much she loves naruto will be the moment he is about to die,(something similar to ova) or she will think he is dead, then she will realise in full how much she loves him, and who was with her all the time, not just saying those words like she said in conffesion but fully realising and understanding them in her heart cause she realised it in her mind already like shown in conffesion but not in heart yet, you dont know what you have until you loose it, maybe that will be a point where she will be more heroin like and do something about her real love naruto and really help him and save him. Problem she doesnt realises it yet is her overconfidence in naruto, she will have to see naruto is wonruble, and needs her, heck that was what drawn her so fanatically to sasuke.

If she would to transfer from sasuke to naruto so suddenly then she would be weak character but she is not, Kishi is simply trying his best to show her growth from sasukes love to naruto. Cause sakura has a curse of being heroin and main character and she must live up to that, and that is not giving up on her love for sasuke, (she would be like those women that make peace with second best choice and when first obstacle appears quits) only greater love can replace that old love, and i think sakura will realise that greater love and friendship is and always has been between her and naruto. She is happy with naruto, she is herself around him, around sasuke she is fake and artificiall fangirling. If sasuke were to come home and she was with him, she would not be free person she is around naruto, she would be in the shadow of the strong person, not allowing her to develop as a person in full.

It is funny we debated not long ago how it is cliche in american movies but it may come to that, when main characters have a quarrel , or one end up being nearly dead, the other character finds out in his/her heart how much he/she cares for that person, and how he/she was stupid to be in love with cool person how much that love was shallow and how now she realises true love and her fellings. Remember how Sakura, when naruto was fighting never was afraid for his safety she had full confidence in his abilities, what if that confidence was taken away, and she was brought up to real circumstances where naruto cant save her or everybody now, and that everything will not be fine,(you came back and saved eveyone, you always come when most needed = that is her thinking of naruto) i thing that kind of her image of naruto has to be shattered, for the sake of her growth. I remember myself when i was dumped by girl, i wanted her back so badly, i knew she was no good for me, i would repeat that sentence to myself over and over again "im better without her, shes no good for me", but i didnt really belived that, it was what i told everyone else, and my thoughts were just for me. I was in pain, only when i snapped out of it, i realised how lucky i was that i didnt end up with that girl cause we had nothing incommon, and only had pain in that relationship. You can see similarity with sakura and sasuke, my experience tells me it will be NaruSaku.

So i am still giving time to sakura to realise the fact she truly loves naruto, not only in mind. I didnt think it would come to this, but it makes sense, cause you cant beat novel type of romances with realism or how it is done in real life (you grow out of love when you see your shallow reasons for being in love, or shallownes of that person or how that person is bad for you) you must beat it with bigger type of story and bigger type of romantic plot, that makes sense.
NaruSaku was buried so many times before, but when Kishimoto smashes SS they will not know what hit them. Kishimoto knows he must put up ratings, he gets the money from the manga he will not abandon other fandoms because of us or his pairing that he is building. But in the end he will smash SS and he will smash them greatly, but it will be in the end of manga when ratings cant sink down, cause it doesnt matter. He is subtle with narusaku, and he is building it from inside slowly how real love and friendship should look like, so in the end ss will wonder how the heck narusaku happened cause "there were no clues" and they will say he is bad writter, but we will know all the fondness and growth naruto and sakura had for each other throughout the series.

About Sakura, i still think "her body says yes before her brain". It's just like Kushina, but it's more complicated. She need to notice Naruto is her soulmate, but she also need to forget Sasuke. She thought he was the one for so long... it's sad for her, i understand her i've been through this too... loving a guy that made me suffer. He cheated on me, and he just wanted to use me but never loved me.
I wasn't happy, but i was devastated thinking he could abandon me. When i think about it know, it weird, i would never do it again. But i was 17. Sakura is still young. It's hard to know, to be really wise at this age. She's really sharp and smart, but sentimental things are different to deal with.

i remember once Kishi said he gets his inspiration from his childhood
when he was writing Kushina and Minato he said was influenced by his family and dedicated chapter to his wife.
its in one of the manga volumes when Naruto meets his mother.

i fail to see how Hinata has this automatic bonus when shes, doubtful, timid, and the shy personailty its considered a character flaw. plus her confession was selfish. she never saved him just made Narutos situation worse. he could have died.


while Sakura is strong-willed, courageous and determined girl.

I read that his wife helped him to write the romance plot between Minato and Kushina.
I find Hinata more and more courageous. Naruto changed her. She's not like Sakura at all, but she's growing too.
And come on... it's true she said her confession was selfish, and i think too it made the situation worse, but it was great of her, and it wasn't selfish in a way because she risked her life for Naruto.

Hasn't Kishimoto compared himself to Naruto before?

And hasn't Sakura been compared to Kishi's wife?

If he's drawing inspiration from his family and friends, well...

Also consider the fact that his wife helped him with Kushina's story a lot, so we know the kind of romance that she supports.

Not only that, but look at all of the other canon relationships so far in the series -> MinaKushi, DanTsu, JiraTsu (don't know if you can actually count this one, but it was definitely heavily implied), AsumaKurenai, Shikaku and Yoshino (is that her name??).

He definitely seems to like romantic relationships where the woman is strong and feisty, not submissive, and where the guy is completely devoted to the woman in turn.

The only exception was AsumaKurenai, and that's only because we never even really got to see them together as a couple.

Just some food for thought.

I totally agree with that !

Honestly, with all the slow, gradual and consistent development that NaruSaku has had throughout the manga, it's hard to think of it not happening. Sakura's feelings have changed for Naruto over time from the very beginning of the manga. If Kishi was to be swayed by what is more popular or what people like, then it wouldn't be Kishi's story. It wouldn't be the romance that Kishi had written for his own story. He will do it the way he's been doing it since the beginning. The reason why it would be strange if NaruSaku doesn't become canon is because of all the development and everything that has happened between these two and that he would spend so much time on it's development and bringing in so many positive and mutual moments between them to then just dismiss it at the end of the series and go with a different pairing. Naruto still loves Sakura and Sakura has been shown to love Naruto as well. Sakura just needs her feelings for Sasuke to be resolved and then prove to Naruto again that she truly loves him and only him and that he is truly the right one for her.

Some of you guys are being really pessimistic about this whole thing. It's best to just relax and stay calm about it and to just watch and wait to see where the manga is heading from now on. There's bound to be more moments in the future.

That's my two cents, even though most of it has already been mentioned.

Agree too ^^ I mean, since the manga isn't over, Sakura still can change her mind !

I suspected that Kishimoto was basing Sakura's personality at least partly on his wife, he recently (at the notes for manga volume 53) stated that Kushina's personality came from his wife- he outright asked for her help to make the character realistic. What female character has a personality similar to Kushina? Sakura. And look at how he describes Sakura- "a normal girl" "the most realistic character in the manga" (what women would Kishimoto know best- his mother and his wife. In another manga volume Kishimoto described his mom very positively and how he felt she was heroic: when he was on a field trip as a kid and she rescued him when he fell in something that covered him in muck. Even his teacher just stared at him, his mom marched right over and got him out, no scolding she just acted. He said that moment made him in awe of her, what a great mom she was. (The origins of Kishimoto's love for strong willed women and knowing how deeply they care for the people they love, I think I could very easily see Sakura acting that way with her and Naruto's children.

That would be interesting to know... we already know that his wife help him in the process, but we don't know if his wife is just like Kushina. It's not the same ^^
Where did you see that Kishi made Naruto like himself ? I've never saw that. Thank you =)


PS : About Sakura smiling at the love letter guy : Come on guys, let's face it, she's not smiling here. She just answered and she didn't change her facial expression. I thought she was on Naruto here. I was wrong.

About me... meh... I don't understand Kishi anymore.
If Sakura really still love Sasuke, and love Naruto as a friend, then what was the purpose of Yamato's sentence with the big emphasis on it ?
Just to keep fandom alive ?
The truth is, Kishi is actually placing everything so that every couple could match. Naruto like Hinata a lot, and he obviously have been deeply touched by what she's done for him. It's pretty possible he fall for her in the future.
Sakura still loves Sasuke. Sasuke will obviously be saved by Naruto, and he will be redeemed in a way, so maybe he and Sakura could be together after that with a secret Kishi twist plot.
Sakura seems to love Naruto, but she's not so sure. She's lost in her feelings. She could one day realise that Naruto is her soulmate.
Hinata still loves Naruto. Maybe she will realise that it's more admiration than love. Or maybe she will realise Naruto loves Sakura and let them be.

Everything is still very plausible...
Kishi is playing.

Edited by Otaru, 28 May 2011 - 12:23 AM.

[Mary]

@Otaru, where have you been for the last few posts?

Sakura does not love Sasuke anymore! Kishi stated in the interview that she was honest about her feelings for Naruto. And stop limiting yourself! There could be a million and one reasons why she thought about Sasuke then and there (have you ever considered the possibility that Sasuke was not her first thought, but Kishi decided to plaster that face in to screw with the fans, because, you know, He's never done that before *I hope you can feel the sarcasm there*).

And Naruto is the one lying to himself and still feeling that inferiority complex that a younger brother feels towards his older and much more cooler brother. Which is why he rejected Sakura's confession. Else, why would he? This is Naruto we're talking about here, and he's definitely not the most perceptive of the bunch.

Edited by Mary, 28 May 2011 - 12:19 AM.

[The Tax-Man]

You seem to have an interesting opinion. Though I did write that she's a pitiable character and a tool to let all the tension break down in relief in one go, whereas Sakura could be the already deciced on by Kishimoto.

My point stands. Any sentence with the names of Team 7 or their mentor should not contain "Hinata". I've seriously have had enough of people thinking she's important. And yes, she is pitiful. But the Sakura part... Huh?

[Otaru]

@Otaru, where have you been for the last few posts?

Sakura does not love Sasuke anymore! Kishi stated in the interview that she was honest about her feelings for Naruto. And stop limiting yourself! There could be a million and one reasons why she thought about Sasuke then and there (have you ever considered the possibility that Sasuke was not her first thought, but Kishi decided to plaster that face in to screw with the fans, because, you know, He's never done that before *I hope you can feel the sarcasm there*).

And Naruto is the one lying to himself and still feeling that inferiority complex that a younger brother feels towards his older and much more cooler brother. Which is why he rejected Sakura's confession. Else, why would he? This is Naruto we're talking about here, and he's definitely not the most perceptive of the bunch.

Writing my long post lol ^^

I agree with a lot of things you said, actually.
It's obvious Sakura still loves Sasuke in the last chapter.
If Kishi doesn't proove the contrary in the next chapter, then it's obvious.
But she can still changer her mind, and it's also possible she Loves Naruto too. I actually still think she loves Naruto more...
I'm just tired i wanted her to realise.

Naruto isn't lying to himself anymore.
He fought that already.

And yes, i have considered the fact that it could be possible that Kishi placed that here in purpose.
As I said, he's playing.

[Yoshimoya]

Writing my long post lol ^^

I agree with a lot of things you said, actually.
It's obvious Sakura still loves Sasuke in the last chapter.
If Kishi doesn't proove the contrary in the next chapter, then it's obvious.
But she can still changer her mind, and it's also possible she Loves Naruto too. I actually still think she loves Naruto more...
I'm just tired i wanted her to realise.

Naruto isn't lying to himself anymore.
He fought that already.

And yes, i have considered the fact that it could be possible that Kishi placed that here in purpose.
As I said, he's playing.

Agreed. No one ever said its again the law to love two people at the same time. Though it has never been stated in the manga, I believe Sakura's love for the two differ in the fact that she can live in a world without Sasuke, but not in a world without Naruto. I'd be thoroughly disgusted if Kishi doesn't make that so and undermines Naruto and Sakura's relationship. Theirs runs way too deep to brush aside.

[Phantom_999]

@Otaru, where have you been for the last few posts?

Sakura does not love Sasuke anymore! Kishi stated in the interview that she was honest about her feelings for Naruto. And stop limiting yourself! There could be a million and one reasons why she thought about Sasuke then and there (have you ever considered the possibility that Sasuke was not her first thought, but Kishi decided to plaster that face in to screw with the fans, because, you know, He's never done that before *I hope you can feel the sarcasm there*).

And Naruto is the one lying to himself and still feeling that inferiority complex that a younger brother feels towards his older and much more cooler brother. Which is why he rejected Sakura's confession. Else, why would he? This is Naruto we're talking about here, and he's definitely not the most perceptive of the bunch.

No, no its because He was surprised. It was too sudden to seem real to him I mean The Whole reason Sakura came to see him in the land of Iron was to tell him of the decision to kill Sasuke which All the other Konoha 11 agreed to but she just told him her hidden feelings and urged him to forget about his promise and he didn't reject her per say He just Said she was lying to herself because He did not believe she had just suddenly moved from Sasuke to him for no reason(clearly he did not notice her change in attitude , probably just brushed it off as friendly appreciation) and also because that was an awfully long walk just to confess your love so he(rightfully) suspected She needed to tell him something important but she just stormed off but It seemed like he rejected her so haters and opposing shippers were whooping until they became blue in the face

Edited by Phantom_999, 28 May 2011 - 01:24 AM.

[ciardha]

You remember Sakura's confession? Naruto could not get himself to believe that Sakura had fallen for him because he remembered how enchanted she was of Sasuke.

No, Sakura was able to get through to Naruto that she had fallen in love with him- as soon as she got angry and insistent that's all it took, his words and expressions show that- he's like "okay, it's a strange circumstance, but you've convinced me" He's calm, not angry. No, what he was sure she was in denial about was that she had convinced herself that she felt absolutely nothing- not even a team mate bond, for Sasuke. (Sakura's words got Naruto to point where he decides she is in love with both Sasuke and himself. Sai's words get him to understand while she still feels an emotional bond to Sasuke, it's based on her memories, she knows this very dark, vengeance obsessed person is who Sasuke really is, he's a major threat to Naruto because Naruto is still in denial about what Sasuke has become- Sakura is terrified that Sasuke will kill Naruto- he'd already tried twice...

Put yourself in Naruto's shoes: The person you loved like a brother died, and you're left alone, to console the girl who'd once loved said brother. He'd think that he's second best, in fact, he thinks that right now

No, look at his mental image of Sakura here:

http://www.manga123....ad/Naruto/505/2

Naruto sees Sakura having her full attention on him with an openly loving look on her face.

Sakura's confession succeeded in freeing their love for each other from the shadow of Sasuke. Even if Sasuke dies tragically it won't bar Naruto and Sakura from getting together. Look how Jiraiya and Tsunade drew closer together in the wake of Orochimaru's death. Tsunade had claimed she never liked or trusted Orochimaru, but she was "lying to herself" too. She never was in love with him, but back when they were Genin together, she had fond memories of the three of them as team mates. It was actually that and fearing Jiraiya's death that made Tsunade start to confess her feelings of love for Jiraiya. Tsunade and Jiraiya dance around direct confessions to each other in their last conversation... But she and Jiraiya were the only people who could mourn the Orochimaru they knew before he turned to the dark.

I think Kishimoto will have Naruto and Sakura get together before Naruto's final fight with Sasuke. In fact I think he'll have them getting together pretty soon...

I think Sasuke might possibly die in a tragic way, but redeemed- so Naruto's goal is still essentially fulfilled. Naruto brings Sasuke away from the darkness. Then Sasuke dies saving Naruto. It will be enough that Sasuke's reputation is somewhat restored, but it will be Sakura alone that will understand Naruto's feelings. They'll mourn Sasuke together- I can see a scene where Naruto and Sakura are alone in his apartment, he is sobbing and Sakura holds him gently in her arms, while tears softly fall down her face. She is tenderly encouraging (a scene that echoes chapter 310, but more intimate) and the next day they are openly holding hands as they walk together to the Hokage office....

Edited by ciardha, 28 May 2011 - 02:44 AM.

[bthug]

LMAO sorry about the "believe it" hahaha i couldn't help it.

I agree with ciardha and anyone else who mention this....the fact that sasuke will die, but be redeemed right before his death or as he dies.

Also Sakura should in the most epic of fashions tell Naruto that she loves him and no one else, but she should do that right before the fight with sasuke, so it doesnt seem like Naruto comes in second to sasuke.

Rapasta WOW Naruto using/giving the kyuubi power away to save Sakura would be epic, maybe seal it inside her (like kushina) because of its amazing healing powers. That would an amazing Narusaku moment, but i doubt that it might happen.

[jmf]

Here's a theory perhaps Sakura saw that the guy was about to make the same mistake she did by putting her on a pedistal kinda of the way she did too Sasuke way back at the begining of the series and that brought up memories of Sasuke into her thoughts just my 2 cents on all this.

[Living Lavish]

Writing my long post lol ^^

I agree with a lot of things you said, actually.
It's obvious Sakura still loves Sasuke in the last chapter.
If Kishi doesn't proove the contrary in the next chapter, then it's obvious.
But she can still changer her mind, and it's also possible she Loves Naruto too. I actually still think she loves Naruto more...
I'm just tired i wanted her to realise.

Naruto isn't lying to himself anymore.
He fought that already.

And yes, i have considered the fact that it could be possible that Kishi placed that here in purpose.
As I said, he's playing.

concerning your last post on Hinatas confession. she was completely selfish like she admited. she gave her life for a selfish reason for her own benefit not Narutos. thats not protecting Naruto or saving him. it would have had a bigger impact if she had of saved him and did it right. appreciates i know he does, but we know who he really loves.

then it was confirmed after her confession Naruto is in love with Sakura. There is no manga basis from Naruto's side for a romantic NaruHina relationship. If you tried to argue for the pairing using only Naruto's emotions, actions, and thoughts - there is nothing to indicate feelings beyond friendship, and not even a particularly strong one at that. Hinata knows he loves sakura and shes happy for them. witch is a great support for are pairing.

[Codus N]

Interesting

It was Kubo (or another mangaka) that said something about Kishi's wife reminding him of/ resembling Sakura.

Kishi himself said in an early episode in part one I believe that he felt that he was most like Naruto.

In all honesty, I'm pretty sure they're not related comments, but I thought it was a funny and cute coincidence none the less.

Wow, really?? Now I'm interested in knowing more about Kishi's wife. Wonder if she's as hot as Kushina

I suspected that Kishimoto was basing Sakura's personality at least partly on his wife, he recently (at the notes for manga volume 53) stated that Kushina's personality came from his wife- he outright asked for her help to make the character realistic. What female character has a personality similar to Kushina? Sakura. And look at how he describes Sakura- "a normal girl" "the most realistic character in the manga" (what women would Kishimoto know best- his mother and his wife. In another manga volume Kishimoto described his mom very positively and how he felt she was heroic: when he was on a field trip as a kid and she rescued him when he fell in something that covered him in muck. Even his teacher just stared at him, his mom marched right over and got him out, no scolding she just acted. He said that moment made him in awe of her, what a great mom she was. (The origins of Kishimoto's love for strong willed women and knowing how deeply they care for the people they love, I think I could very easily see Sakura acting that way with her and Naruto's children.

Ciardha, have you read Bakuman?? if anybody here reads Bakuman, you'd know that there is

some foreshadowing --Click here to view--

going on right now. It seems that Ohba is planning an arc where Takagi/Shuujin is going to have a kid.

I'm thinking that Takagi will completely freak out because now he has to balance his family and work.

I'm hoping he'll turn to one of the senior mangakas, preferably Kishi and see how he really is and what he does to balance family and work and see how much Kishi loves his family. I'd love to see that.

Here's a theory perhaps Sakura saw that the guy was about to make the same mistake she did by putting her on a pedistal kinda of the way she did too Sasuke way back at the begining of the series and that brought up memories of Sasuke into her thoughts just my 2 cents on all this.

...Wow, why didn't I think of that?? I feel like a moron right now.

[Darth Krypt]

Wow, really?? Now I'm interested in knowing more about Kishi's wife. Wonder if she's as hot as Kushina

Well maybe because Kushina's an inspiration of his wife, he drew her as hot. Because that's how a husband views his wife: the most beautiful woman in the world. Or at least that's what I think. I'm not married yet so I can only assume. Any married guys can confirm this?

Edited by Darth Krypt, 28 May 2011 - 09:08 AM.

[Ella loves NaruSaku :3]

concerning your last post on Hinatas confession. she was completely selfish like she admited. she gave her life for a selfish reason for her own benefit not Narutos. thats not protecting Naruto or saving him. it would have had a bigger impact if she had of saved him and did it right. appreciates i know he does, but we know who he really loves.

then it was confirmed after her confession Naruto is in love with Sakura. There is no manga basis from Naruto's side for a romantic NaruHina relationship. If you tried to argue for the pairing using only Naruto's emotions, actions, and thoughts - there is nothing to indicate feelings beyond friendship, and not even a particularly strong one at that. Hinata knows he loves sakura and shes happy for them. witch is a great support for are pairing.

I get why Hinatas selfish xDDD NaruHina fans are srsly blind when they talk about the Hinata confession.
Though I don't know if Naruto is still deeply in love with Sakura as he was used to. ( Not that I'm a pessimistic NS fan or an NH fan ) I also read that NH fans say that Naruto is in love with Sakura but maybe is secretly in love with Hinata! I know I shouldnt listen from them >.> But this time what they said may have a little truth to it. Well see though.
HINATA is happy for Naruto and Sakura but the NH fandom is NOT >: This is a selfless part of her, I guess, which makes the demand for NH even higher with them saying 'Ohhh NaruSaku is so unfair blah blah'
But I hope Kishi realize how unfair NH is! Hinata did NOTHING to benefit Naruto. Nothing that is worth something. Sakura healed him and went through the moments of anger, sadness and joy together with Naruto. And you're right, it wouldve Bern different if Hinata saved Narutos life in the confession but she didn't!!

Edited by Ella loves NaruSaku :3, 28 May 2011 - 01:38 PM.

[Torxe]

Here's a theory perhaps Sakura saw that the guy was about to make the same mistake she did by putting her on a pedistal kinda of the way she did too Sasuke way back at the begining of the series and that brought up memories of Sasuke into her thoughts just my 2 cents on all this.

Never thought about it that way, and is much less far fetched than most other explanations I've read on here.

You have won me over.

[Codus N]

Well maybe because Kushina's an inspiration of his wife, he drew her as hot. Because that's how a husband views his wife: the most beautiful woman in the world. Or at least that's what I think. I'm not married yet so I can only assume. Any married guys can confirm this?

Either that, or Kishi was afraid of his wife that she would whoop his ass if she didn't make Kushina as beautiful as shown in the manga, since he did say wanted to base Kushina on her.

[Living Lavish]

I get why Hinatas selfish xDDD NaruHina fans are srsly blind when they talk about the Hinata confession.
Though I don't know if Naruto is still deeply in love with Sakura as he was used to. ( Not that I'm a pessimistic NS fan or an NH fan ) I also read that NH fans say that Naruto is in love with Sakura but maybe is secretly in love with Hinata! I know I shouldnt listen from them >.> But this time what they said may have a little truth to it. Well see though.
HINATA is happy for Naruto and Sakura but the NH fandom is NOT >: This is a selfless part of her, I guess, which makes the demand for NH even higher with them saying 'Ohhh NaruSaku is so unfair blah blah'
But I hope Kishi realize how unfair NH is! Hinata did NOTHING to benefit Naruto. Nothing that is worth something. Sakura healed him and went through the moments of anger, sadness and joy together with Naruto. And you're right, it wouldve Bern different if Hinata saved Narutos life in the confession but she didn't!!

are you serious? your listening to bullsh1t from biased fans. when has Naruto ever shown hes secretely in love with her? how the hell is NaruSaku unfair?
Naruto is the epitome of never giving up on anything . he loves SAKURA! and nothing has changed that. how mnay times does this need to be explaiend to them?? its going to far now.

Kishimoto reinforced Naruto's love for Sakura directly from him at least twice AFTER Hinata's confession (through his words to Sai and his blush when Sakura confessed to him) and at least once AFTER Hinata's confession (through Sai's confession to Sakura). his actions tell us this and mini databook that came out after confirmed this.

Even looking at it in the most negative light you can, it doesn't erase the fact that Naruto and Sakura have built a strong, mutual relationship of friendship and comradery over the entire course of the manga, that Naruto is canonically still in love with Sakura, that Sakura has shown multiple signs of having feelings for Naruto that go beyond friendship, and that Naruto doesn't hold any of Sakura's actions against her because he understands that it was done for his benefit.

Edited by Living Lavish, 28 May 2011 - 03:25 PM.

[Phantom_999]

Here's a theory perhaps Sakura saw that the guy was about to make the same mistake she did by putting her on a pedistal kinda of the way she did too Sasuke way back at the begining of the series and that brought up memories of Sasuke into her thoughts just my 2 cents on all this.

HAH! I actually really like that one again though we are throwing guesses and each one is as likely as the next

[bthug]

Anyone else not mind seeing Sakura's cherries blossom?

[ciardha]

Never thought about it that way, and is much less far fetched than most other explanations I've read on here.

You have won me over.

It's just the short version of exactly what Triksie, Shauna, ShippudenGirl and I were saying on the chapter thread.

The last chapter the dude just sounds like he's attracted to her, so a polite neutral rejection was all she thought was needed "I'm already in love with someone else". But then in this chapter it become painfully obvious to Sakura this dude has put her on a pedestal and is worshiping her because he thinks she's attractive and very talented, nothing about her personality or background. She just says "gomen nasai" (I'm sorry) no direct reply to his praise this chapter, and her expression changes to looking very depressed. It makes her depressed, because it's a painful reminder that she had done exactly the same thing when she crushed on Sasuke and look what kind of person he really is... Some people are conflating her reactions and assuming what she said last chapter in reaction to the guy's simple attraction comment last chapter applies to her reaction to his fanboying comment this chapter. Kishimoto made a chapter break in that scene for a reason, you are meant to split one from the other. No, Kishimoto doesn't troll, but he will throw things out at readers from time to challenge them to pay better attention to the story.

As soon as I saw that panel though, I groaned because I knew many readers wouldn't catch that and knew that out would come the Sakura bashing....

[rastaman]

LMAO sorry about the "believe it" hahaha i couldn't help it.

I agree with ciardha and anyone else who mention this....the fact that sasuke will die, but be redeemed right before his death or as he dies.

Also Sakura should in the most epic of fashions tell Naruto that she loves him and no one else, but she should do that right before the fight with sasuke, so it doesnt seem like Naruto comes in second to sasuke.

Rapasta WOW Naruto using/giving the kyuubi power away to save Sakura would be epic, maybe seal it inside her (like kushina) because of its amazing healing powers. That would an amazing Narusaku moment, but i doubt that it might happen.

I doubt Naruto would seal it inside Sakura because she's of no powerful clan. She couldn't handle the pressure on the body.
Kushina could handle it due to her bloodline.

Maybe the Kyuubi orders Naruto to kiss Sakura so that Kyuubi can transfer some healing power to Sakura