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[applesauceful]

 

I'm not sticking around to watch Bolt and Salad fall in love sorry. Those are still the spawn of two couples I do not support so that's all that's gonna go through my mind and no thank you.

 

I still highly believe this is the end of Naruto though, this movie. There won't be anything else. Sure this P3 but it won't be written by Kishi which means many will not be interested in it.

 

Don't see how they can do a Bolt x Salad love story. For one, it'd be too predictable and second, is it going to be just all about love because I don't see what else it could be about. They've got strong leaders, peace for once, if anything happens, Naruto will just take care of it. Or Sasuke. Or whomever else. There's no place for that story to go tbh

[rocci]

 
Which is completly OOC! Hell even if Sakura still loved Sasuke. We have proof that Naruto is her best friend.
 
I think Kishi knew that if there was any Naruto/Sakura intereraction. He wouldn't be able to asspull SS/NH.
 
One more reason why I think Kishi was forced to do this!

Indeed. That is true no two side NS interaction in this war arc, because kishi doesn't want to make them canon.

[MangaReader]

 

If I was Naruto and was completely ignored by Sakura the way he was in 699, I don't know if I'd even smile around her. But apparently in the movie she calls out his name so they're going to resolve it somehow. Although, I don't seem a realistic way of doing that after all that's happened.

It's already pretty bad when you figure out Naruto is single for 2 years... apparently Sakura just kept on waiting for Sasuke's banishment to expire lol

[applesauceful]

It's already pretty bad when you figure out Naruto is single for 2 years... apparently Sakura just kept on waiting for Sasuke's banishment to expire lol

 

Quite honestly, any relationship between them would be dead or strained at the very least. 

 

But then again, Kishi can just fix everything in 5 mins :)

Edited by applesauceful, 07 November 2014 - 07:25 AM.

[applesauceful]

Seriously... the only truly happy person in the "canon" ending is Hinata. This wasn't the story of Naruto or Sasuke...heck not even Team7. Nope, this whole time the manga was actually pandering to Hinata's happiness 

 

Totally agree. She's the OGC I saw with a genuine smile on her face.

[Master_Naruto]

That was my point. He made SS kid look like Karin, he made Sakura look more like Kushina (gave her the same height and bangs in "The Last" and even the hair clip in the epilogue), made Naruto of all people make his son feel lonely and neglected, and then basically tells him to sick it up, made all the kids ugly (there's literally no other reason to pair Choji with Karui or make Sai's kid look like an alien), made Anko fat for no reason, and made the whole epilogue seem depressing.
In the chapters leading up to the epilogue NS was practically canon and SS was about as dead as possible (Sasuke says he couldn't care less if she died, specifically says "I have no reason to like her.", and says both to Naruto and in his own head that Naruto's the only person left he considers a friend and has any bond with. Kishi even had Kakashi say "Sakura's not trying or wanting to make you her's! She only wants to save you!". He killed off SS from both sides, yet it's canon in the epilogue.
Then we have his statement on the last chapter saying he "accepted" the last story, that it brings "sorrowful" feelings, and in response to that says "NEVERTHELESS, I can speak clearly.".
His part in the series ends with the manga. After that the rights to the series are being given to someone else for Part 3. Whoever has to do with Part 3 obviously wanted to continue the series with a NH/SS ending, so they made him end it that way. Hence him "accepting" the end.
Yet he wanted to make it clear that it's not what he wanted and because of that made the epilogue ridiculous and nonsensical. He even still left hints to NS/SK. He has Sakura with the same bangs, hair clip, and height as Kushina and made SS's kid look like Karin.
Even without his statement it's obvious that this isn't the ending he was building up to. Now this just confirms even further that he's disappointed about it and had to "accept" it.
So basically, he still had NS planned for the end but SP (for the movie and anime) and SJ (for Part 3) forced him to end it with NH/SS instead. That's the only possible way to look at all of this besides just "Kishi sucks! He ruined everything!".

 

No tto mention the fact that even Naruto's kids don't line up with what we know in the manga. The whiskers should only be from inherited when the mother is a kyuubi jinchuriki, and the byakugan is supposed to be a dominant trait. Nothing makes sense, and I think that that Kishi made it make no sense as a last effort to show that this wasn't what he wanted.

[MangaReader]

 

Quite honestly, any relationship between them would be dead or strained at the very least. 

 

But then again, Kishi can just fix everything in 5 mins :)

It makes it even worst for NaruHina seeing as he's apparently been rejecting her advances up to the start of the movie... some kidnapping is what brings them together? Grade A kitten right there

[milan kyuubi]

 

He would still be criticized. If he actually did care about what readers think, he would have done a better job with the ending. Not redoing it. It would just seem like we forced him to change the ending, which is not what we want to do. But what we do know is that ending is like a fanfic and a bad one at that.

 

Unless he tells us that he was pressurized and forced, if that actually happens, and redo it, I guess everything would be better.

 

This is what I am counting on. I mean the ending was so bad. Characters look worse then they ever did.

I don't think Kishi will admit that now. But as I said once Naruto is no longer in spotlight (no SP, no SJ, no editors,). He could easily come out say he was forced and wanted different ending. And creating a two new chapters wouldn't be that hard!

And it all depends on Kishi. If he has the guts to do this! Or is he going to simple forget about it and move one.

From the official stuff and interviews do you think Kishi is a person who can do this?

PS: I am actually sick seeing people congratulate Kishi on "Good/Fine" ending. Just because they got their ship. IMO those people were never truly Naruto fans!

[natalieuciha]

 

If I was Naruto and was completely ignored by Sakura the way he was in 699, I don't know if I'd even smile around her. But apparently in the movie she calls out his name so they're going to resolve it somehow. Although, I don't seem a realistic way of doing that after all that's happened.

i dont know why when ive read that chapter,i could feel that behinds the smile he hides pain..poor baby

[rocci]

Naruto give up because ss canon in chapter 699.
Ss become canon because sasuke return sakura feeling.
Which is kitten and asspull.

[narusakuotp]

Seriously... the only truly happy person in the "canon" ending is Hinata. This wasn't the story of Naruto or Sasuke...heck not even Team7. Nope, this whole time the manga was actually pandering to Hinata's happiness 

I completely agree.

[MangaReader]

 

No tto mention the fact that even Naruto's kids don't line up with what we know in the manga. The whiskers should only be from inherited when the mother is a kyuubi jinchuriki, and the byakugan is supposed to be a dominant trait. Nothing makes sense, and I think that that Kishi made it make no sense as a last effort to show that this wasn't what he wanted.

Or he was a complete sell out hoping to spark interest in a crappy movie...

[Geninja]

 

Don't see how they can do a Bolt x Salad love story. For one, it'd be too predictable and second, is it going to be just all about love because I don't see what else it could be about. They've got strong leaders, peace for once, if anything happens, Naruto will just take care of it. Or Sasuke. Or whomever else. There's no place for that story to go tbh

 

Well for all we know it could go the route of DBZ where they continue the stories. Who knows maybe Kishi would wake the hell up and Sakura would leave Sasuke because he would much rather go away then spend time with Sakura and his child, he's a horrible father. Kind of like how Bulma left Yamcha because he was a scumbag. Then NS can happen because Naruto would continue to be in love with Sakura.

 

But seriously I don't believe any of this at all will happen.

Edited by Geninja, 07 November 2014 - 07:31 AM.

[ShippudenGirl]

Did anyone else notice the freaking skyscrapers on the last shot of the Hokage heads???

[applesauceful]

It makes it even worst for NaruHina seeing as he's apparently been rejecting her advances up to the start of the movie... some kidnapping is what brings them together? Grade A bullsh** right there

 

I know, so someone's going to tell me Hinata likes Naruto but he's in love with Sakura. Sakura's waiting for Sasuke to return (probably hangs around Naruto until then lol) and rejects him because she's in "love" with Sasuke. Then Hinata sees her opening, asks for Sakura's help. Hinata is going to confess, is kidnapped. Naruto's devastated from his rejection from Sakura, was going to rebound to Hinata, she's not there. She's been kidnapped. Sees she's going to get married to Toneri, realises this is his only chance to not be lonely. Saves Hinata. Falls madly in love with her and they get married have children.

 

All within nearly 2hrs movie time.

 

Yeah... that sounds about right.

[rinali24]

Seriously... the only truly happy person in the "canon" ending is Hinata. This wasn't the story of Naruto or Sasuke...heck not even Team7. Nope, this whole time the manga was actually pandering to Hinata's happiness

 
I don't understand why everyone feels so sorry for Hinata.. as if her life is over if she doesn't get with Naruto. Like.. C'MON! She has so much potential.. only to be made into pairing fodder.
 

Don't see how they can do a Bolt x Salad love story. For one, it'd be too predictable and second, is it going to be just all about love because I don't see what else it could be about. They've got strong leaders, peace for once, if anything happens, Naruto will just take care of it. Or Sasuke. Or whomever else. There's no place for that story to go tbh

Like people said, it would fulfill Kishi's wish for narusasu to happen, although not directly. Maybe a new evil comes and the adults are incapacitated, so the kids have to figure out a way to save the world? Maybe the kids will venture into the city while the adults stay in Konoha. rofl who knows. Sounds stupid

[Evil Potato]

 

No, I don't ship Boruto and Sarada. Come on. She reminds me of Hinata instead. So, no.

 

She reminds me more of Karin, but to be honest, we don't know much about her and how she is, maybe she will be more like Sakura when part 3 starts.

[milan kyuubi]

I don't see how is it's imposible that Kishi down the years comes out. And say this is not the ending he wanted! It's not like it never happened with popular stories. Look at J.K!

[Qia]

But Chatte...I wish to know at least a little bit of your theory. Spoilers? :O Pleaseee xP

[rocci]

Kishi will not rewrite what he already wrote.
It already happen.
So why dont we just cheer NS eventought it's not canon.