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[4000TMNT]

I just realize that the most NH/SS development happen in the chunin exam arc. Only one arc that those two parings had development. In part 2 before 437 & Kage summit arc, you kinda forget they had NH/SS. Sakura in the start of part 2 too the Kage summit, did not seem to be still in love with Sasuke and Naruto seem more determine to bring back Sasuke more than Sakura and Hinata barely shown in part 2. NaruSaku was develop in almost every arc in the story, so it is common sense that Kishi intended to make NaruSaku canon.

[Branden]

I just realize that the most NH/SS development happen in the chunin exam arc. Only one arc that those two parings had development. In part 2 before 437 & Kage summit arc, you kinda forget they had NH/SS. Sakura in the start of part 2 too the Kage summit, did not seem to be still in love with Sasuke and Naruto seem more determine to bring back Sasuke more than Sakura and Hinata barely shown in part 2. NaruSaku was develop in almost every arc in the story, so it is common sense that Kishi intended to make NaruSaku canon.

i wouldn't quite call that common sense considering that narusaku is a minority, or so I'm told.

[merryGOflava]

sooooooooooo

when do you think sakura is gonna pop up :3

[Branden]

sooooooooooo

when do you think sakura is gonna pop up :3

very soon, she's been going to Naruto this entire time you know...

[TouKen4Life3g]

This could be off-topic, but need help. Um, perhaps B-rank mission:

http://www.narutofor...;postcount=1642

Where did that come from? Anyone?

[4000TMNT]

i wouldn't quite call that common sense considering that narusaku is a minority, or so I'm told.

Are you joking.

[merryGOflava]

This could be off-topic, but need help. Um, perhaps B-rank mission:

http://www.narutofor...;postcount=1642

Where did that come from? Anyone?

what is this? :o

[TouKen4Life3g]

what is this? :o

No idea. We need help, stat! B-rank mission!

[ciardha]

This could be off-topic, but need help. Um, perhaps B-rank mission:

http://www.narutofor...;postcount=1642

Where did that come from? Anyone?

Hmm. looks like stuff from 3 different sources-

1) fanart
2) a Japanese book or magazine article
3) a quote from a blog

The first one is easy, looks like a tiny narusaku fanart with the artist's funny comment on the antinarusaku crowd will react- "Kyaa! Masaka no narusaku" ("Eeek! Impossible! It's narusaku!")

The second unfortunately is too tiny and blurry for me to translate.

The third is just someone talking about how much they like narusaku and that it's "tai" (sea bream). This is a Japanese cultural reference and is difficult for me to explain in context, but you can sort of translate it as symbolically meaning (all at the same time): fortunate, auspicious, highest quality, respected, enduring... like I said, hard to properly translate into English.

[T XD]

i wish for someone who could translate the second one, it seems something very good

i wouldn't quite call that common sense considering that narusaku is a minority, or so I'm told.

minority ? cause i know NS is one of the most popular pairings XD

Edited by T XD, 19 August 2012 - 08:12 AM.

[Traci]

i wish for someone who could translate the second one, it seems something very good

minority ? cause i know NS is one of the most popular pairings XD

It's the least popular Big 3 pairing, at least in the west. When you get really emotionally involved with something, common sense is often thrown out the window. Sometimes, I feel like presenting all the NS, SS, and NH moments (basically, any moments that are deemed SS and NH moments by SS/NH fans, even if NS fans don't necessarily consider it a moment) to someone who knows absolutely nothing about Naruto and its characters. I'd like to see their opinion on which pairing is more likely to happen.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hmm. looks like stuff from 3 different sources-

1) fanart
2) a Japanese book or magazine article
3) a quote from a blog

The first one is easy, looks like a tiny narusaku fanart with the artist's funny comment on the antinarusaku crowd will react- "Kyaa! Masaka no narusaku" ("Eeek! Impossible! It's narusaku!")

The second unfortunately is too tiny and blurry for me to translate.

The third is just someone talking about how much they like narusaku and that it's "tai" (sea bream). This is a Japanese cultural reference and is difficult for me to explain in context, but you can sort of translate it as symbolically meaning (all at the same time): fortunate, auspicious, highest quality, respected, enduring... like I said, hard to properly translate into English.

Thanks a lot.

I'm more curious about that second image. I wonder what's the source. Also, I thought the quote is from the second image. I don't know. Good to know more NaruSaku in Japan. Seems like we getting populated.

[ciardha]

It's the least popular Big 3 pairing, at least in the west. When you get really emotionally involved with something, common sense is often thrown out the window. Sometimes, I feel like presenting all the NS, SS, and NH moments (basically, any moments that are deemed SS and NH moments by SS/NH fans, even if NS fans don't necessarily consider it a moment) to someone who knows absolutely nothing about Naruto and its characters. I'd like to see their opinion on which pairing is more likely to happen.

Actually even in the west, even online, I've seen a sharp drop in naruhina and sasusaku fans, and a big jump in both narusaku and sasunaru shippers since I joined the fandom. True sasusaku shippers (not nh shippers who dump sakura into that ship to "get her out of the way" or even worse because they want Sasuke to abuse her or kill her off) have, in the west, dwindled away to very small numbers dropping below both narusaku and sasunaru- a section of the real ones switched over to sasukar in part 2, another section switched over to narusaku in part 2. Naruhina has declined in part 2 as well, it's online numbers are nothing like they were seven years ago, part of it's shippers moved on to narusaku, kibahina and nejihina in part 2. Online presence in the west the rankings involving at least one of the 4 main characters are probably: naruhina (declining), narusaku (rising), sasunaru (rising), sasusaku (declining), sasukar (rising), kakasaku (rising), itasasu (rising, eww, I know, but yeah it's numbers are rising since part 2 started), sakuhina (rising), sakuino (rising)

Now in Japan as far as the hetro pairings go involving the 4 main characters, sasusaku is still number 1- but it's numbers have dropped substantially since part 2 started and narusaku, although second ranking of those type pairings, even in part 1 has seen it's numbers jump since part 2 began. (naruhina has never been terribly popular in Japan, it's way down the overall favorite pairings list, below even a couple of other pairings involving Hinata, Nejihina being the top Hinata pairing in Japan)

[Branden]

Actually even in the west, even online, I've seen a sharp drop in naruhina and sasusaku fans, and a big jump in both narusaku and sasunaru shippers since I joined the fandom. True sasusaku shippers (not nh shippers who dump sakura into that ship to "get her out of the way" or even worse because they want Sasuke to abuse her or kill her off) have, in the west, dwindled away to very small numbers dropping below both narusaku and sasunaru- a section of the real ones switched over to sasukar in part 2, another section switched over to narusaku in part 2. Naruhina has declined in part 2 as well, it's online numbers are nothing like they were seven years ago, part of it's shippers moved on to narusaku, kibahina and nejihina in part 2. Online presence in the west the rankings involving at least one of the 4 main characters are probably: naruhina (declining), narusaku (rising), sasunaru (rising), sasusaku (declining), sasukar (rising), kakasaku (rising), itasasu (rising, eww, I know, but yeah it's numbers are rising since part 2 started), sakuhina (rising), sakuino (rising)

Now in Japan as far as the hetro pairings go involving the 4 main characters, sasusaku is still number 1- but it's numbers have dropped substantially since part 2 started and narusaku, although second ranking of those type pairings, even in part 1 has seen it's numbers jump since part 2 began. (naruhina has never been terribly popular in Japan, it's way down the overall favorite pairings list, below even a couple of other pairings involving Hinata, Nejihina being the top Hinata pairing in Japan)

Where are you getting this information?

[Verilance]

well part of it was posted here awhile ago

as expected KakaIru was number one in Japan

and as she said NejiHina was ahead of NaruHina (NaruSaku was as well)

however it must be stated these are from Japanese fans who actually care about pairings which is a minority (whether sizable or not is debatable)

[ciardha]

Where are you getting this information?

Here's the full list of the favorite Japanese pairings with the numbers that are over 100 people

カカイル (KakaIru) ------- 629,000

サスナル (SasuNaru) ---- 392,000

カカナル (KakaNaru) ---- 188,000

サスサク (SasuSaku) ---- 139,000

カカサス (KakaSasu) ---- 105,000

ナルサク (NaruSaku) ----- 85,700

サソデイ (SasoDei) ------- 53,900

ジラツナ(JiraTsu) --------- 52,600

シカナル (ShikaNaru) ---- 50,900

シカテマ (ShikaTema) --- 50,200

イタサス (ItaSasu) ------- 49,000

カカサク (KakaSaku) ---- 48,300

ネジヒナ (NejiHina) ------ 47,800

シカいの (ShikaIno) ------ 47,800

ナルヒナ (NaruHina)------ 42,600

サイナル (SaiNaru) ------- 42,500

アスクレ (AsuKure) ------ 40,900

ネジテン (NejiTen) -------- 39,700

キバヒナ (KibaHina) ------ 38,100

リーテン (LeeTen) -------- 37,000

四カカ (YonKaka) --------- 31,600

ネジリー (NejiLee) -------- 24,700

イタナル (ItaNaru) -------- 23,700

リーサク (LeeSaku) ------ 17,800

オロカブ (OroKabu) ------ 15,900

サクヒナ (SakuHina) ----- 14,000

ネジナル (NejiNaru) ------- 9,630

サスヒナ (SasuHina) ------ 9,210

サソサク (SasoSaku) ----- 8,880

キバナル (KibaNaru) ------ 8,660

キバいの (KibaIno) -------- 4,920

鮫イタ (KisaIta) ----------- 3,570

イタサク (ItaSaku) -------- 2,850

我ナル (GaaNaru) ---------- 2,750

シノハナ (ShinoHana) ----- 2,190

ザブハク (ZabuHaku) ----- 1,520

オロジラ (OroJira) --------- 1,330

サスいの (SasuSai) ------- 1,130

サスサイ (SasuIno) ------- 1,130

マダイタ (MadaIta) -------- 1,130

デイサク (DeiSaku) ------- 1,270

我サク (GaaSaku) --------- 985

ネジサク (NejiSaku) ------- 946

シノヒナ (ShinoHina) ------869

我リー (GaaLee) ----------- 787

デイいの (DeiIno) ---------- 650

キバシノ (KibaShino) ------ 614

我ヒナ (GaaHina) --------- 608

イタデイ (ItaDei) ---------- 583

カカヒナ (KakaHina) ------ 544

キバサク (KibaSaku) ------ 536

*スイカリ (SuiKarin) ------- 527

オロサス (OroSasu) ------- 463

サクいの (SakuIno) ------- 346

サスカリ (SasuKarin) ----- 223

サイいの (SaiIno) --------- 212

我マツ (GaaMatsu) ------- 119

トビサク (TobiSaku) ------ 101

[Branden]

Here's the full list of the favorite Japanese pairings with the numbers that are over 100 people

still don't know where your getting this information :\

[T XD]

Here's the full list of the favorite Japanese pairings with the numbers that are over 100 people

カカイル (KakaIru) ------- 629,000

サスナル (SasuNaru) ---- 392,000

カカナル (KakaNaru) ---- 188,000

サスサク (SasuSaku) ---- 139,000

カカサス (KakaSasu) ---- 105,000

ナルサク (NaruSaku) ----- 85,700

サソデイ (SasoDei) ------- 53,900

ジラツナ(JiraTsu) --------- 52,600

シカナル (ShikaNaru) ---- 50,900

シカテマ (ShikaTema) --- 50,200

イタサス (ItaSasu) ------- 49,000

カカサク (KakaSaku) ---- 48,300

ネジヒナ (NejiHina) ------ 47,800

シカいの (ShikaIno) ------ 47,800

ナルヒナ (NaruHina)------ 42,600

サイナル (SaiNaru) ------- 42,500

アスクレ (AsuKure) ------ 40,900

ネジテン (NejiTen) -------- 39,700

キバヒナ (KibaHina) ------ 38,100

リーテン (LeeTen) -------- 37,000

四カカ (YonKaka) --------- 31,600

ネジリー (NejiLee) -------- 24,700

イタナル (ItaNaru) -------- 23,700

リーサク (LeeSaku) ------ 17,800

オロカブ (OroKabu) ------ 15,900

サクヒナ (SakuHina) ----- 14,000

ネジナル (NejiNaru) ------- 9,630

サスヒナ (SasuHina) ------ 9,210

サソサク (SasoSaku) ----- 8,880

キバナル (KibaNaru) ------ 8,660

キバいの (KibaIno) -------- 4,920

鮫イタ (KisaIta) ----------- 3,570

イタサク (ItaSaku) -------- 2,850

我ナル (GaaNaru) ---------- 2,750

シノハナ (ShinoHana) ----- 2,190

ザブハク (ZabuHaku) ----- 1,520

オロジラ (OroJira) --------- 1,330

サスいの (SasuSai) ------- 1,130

サスサイ (SasuIno) ------- 1,130

マダイタ (MadaIta) -------- 1,130

デイサク (DeiSaku) ------- 1,270

我サク (GaaSaku) --------- 985

ネジサク (NejiSaku) ------- 946

シノヒナ (ShinoHina) ------869

我リー (GaaLee) ----------- 787

デイいの (DeiIno) ---------- 650

キバシノ (KibaShino) ------ 614

我ヒナ (GaaHina) --------- 608

イタデイ (ItaDei) ---------- 583

カカヒナ (KakaHina) ------ 544

キバサク (KibaSaku) ------ 536

*スイカリ (SuiKarin) ------- 527

オロサス (OroSasu) ------- 463

サクいの (SakuIno) ------- 346

サスカリ (SasuKarin) ----- 223

サイいの (SaiIno) --------- 212

我マツ (GaaMatsu) ------- 119

トビサク (TobiSaku) ------ 101

woaw i can't belive sasusaku is above narusaku. i thought narusaku was always more popular than sasusaku in japan.
do you know which year is this list ? cause if it's more than 2 years, it's likely that the statistics of some pairings have changed

Edited by T XD, 19 August 2012 - 04:28 PM.

[ciardha]

woaw i can't belive sasusaku is above narusaku. i thought narusaku was always more popular than sasusaku in japan.
do you know which year is this list ? cause if it's more than 2 years, it's likely that the statistics of some pairings have changed

No, sasusaku has been #1 of the het team 7 related pairings since the beginning. But sasusaku has declined in popularity while narusaku has risen since part 2 of the manga started. The numbers for sasusaku used to be double that of narusaku. Narusaku was still number #2 though, of the het Team 7 related (meaning having at least one member of team 7 in it) pairings. This is the latest pairing poll we have from Japan- May 2010 and was posted on NF no less, here:
http://www.narutofor...ad.php?t=620658

To show you how popular Sakura is amongst Japanese fans compared to Hinata, even a crack pairing for Sakura- KakaSaku comes in higher than the first Hinata pairing- NejiHina. Naruhina doesn't even have half the numbers of Narusaku.

Who I feel sorry for in Japanese fandom is poor Chouji. Prejudice against fat people is worse in Japan than in the US (and it's pretty bad here)- this didn't used to be true, it's only gotten extreme in about the last 10 years over there. Thankfully Kishimoto, although he does the typical stereotyping of fat people with Chouji, he clearly loves the character- shows he's the heart of Ino-Shika-Cho, and has been subtly hinting at Cho-Ino since part 1. Hope he goes through with the pairing at the ending of the manga, maybe that will have some positive influence amongst the readers of Naruto at least.

Edited by ciardha, 19 August 2012 - 05:33 PM.

[Branden]

No, sasusaku has been #1 of the het team 7 related pairings since the beginning. But sasusaku has declined in popularity while narusaku has risen since part 2 of the manga started. The numbers for sasusaku used to be double that of narusaku. Narusaku was still number #2 though, of the het Team 7 related (meaning having at least one member of team 7 in it) pairings. This is the latest pairing poll we have from Japan- May 2010 and was posted on NF no less, here:
http://www.narutofor...ad.php?t=620658

To show you how popular Sakura is amongst Japanese fans compared to Hinata, even a crack pairing for Sakura- KakaSaku comes in higher than the first Hinata pairing- NejiHina. Naruhina doesn't even have half the numbers of Narusaku.

Who I feel sorry for in Japanese fandom is poor Chouji. Prejudice against fat people is worse in Japan than in the US (and it's pretty bad here)- this didn't used to be true, it's only gotten extreme in about the last 10 years over there. Thankfully Kishimoto, although he does the typical stereotyping of fat people with Chouji, he clearly loves the character- shows he's the heart of Ino-Shika-Cho, and has been subtly hinting at Cho-Ino since part 1. Hope he goes through with the pairing at the ending of the manga, maybe that will have some positive influence amongst the readers of Naruto at least.

I don't really care about Chouji anymore. I really hope Kishi doesn't just make like 5 pairings at the end. The most I want for SasuKarin is just a subtle hint towards it. The main pairing focus should be on NaruSaku since, well, both of them are main characters that I think alot of us care about more than the other characters.

Except for Deidara... Wish we could have gotten more of him. In fact I demand there be a sequel staring Deidara.