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[六道仙人]

youtube? ok, now we can rest a little

[Swagkura]

youtube? ok, now we can rest a little

Lol, it's just the same theories, with the new one being Hinata facing the side while the others facing the front means something for NH. Trying to up her relevance like always.

[Inferno180]

How about looking at it like this?

 

A real debate topic:

 

Throughout the years, in the pairing debates, NH and SS fans have constantly said NS wouldn't happen, yet as the manga went on, ironically, its like these arguements against NS fell flat out. Not the simpleton ones like Sakura caring nothing for Naruto or Naruto giving up on Sakura or the promise, I mean the ones that just fell out over time that had reason at one point but then just died.

 

I mean like:

 

437, Hinata confesses, but nothing save a small remembrance was made since then, otherwise no confrontation has occured with this and afterwards Sakura hugged Naruto and we even got a reason for why NS just couldnt happen (aside from the land of iron events that Sakura couldnt just force herself to love Naruto but she still grew from this and came to support him).

 

469, many said Naruto was over Sakura and would move towards Hinata, yet this never happened and Hinata had no moments of growing with him nor naruto getting with her more often. Had the war had them together for a bit, this could have changed for NHs benefit but it didn't.

 

504, we got kushinas foreshadow, people claimed NS was dead yet why have narutos mother say find a girl like her and hint NS if it was truely dead? Hinata had nothing in common with Kushina (save being kidnapped by the cloud and thats not something to brag about) Hell, even the backstory and the similar looking down upon minato and hating her hair, that was enough to say who she was like, I mean even then, look what happened later on with the infamous 631, look at RtN, look at Ultimate Ninja storm revolution, even with these 2 non-canon deals, can anyone honestly say Hinata is like Kushina at this point? Kushina sure seems to have the similar tsundere, smash stuff with her fists in comical fashion just like Sakura (and to other degrees Tsunade) but hell, its just that past releationship.

 

540, people said Sakura is always stuck on Sasuke and loves him regardless, yet she came to distrust him and was antagoniszed by it, hell she was angry at him too. No matter how one looks at it, she cares for him and wants to save him, but the aspect of love, this is not, love is supposed to be good, not antagonistic or negative like this, seriously, if there are SS fans who ship this because of how it is, I would seriously want to know what other antagonsitic void of anything positive ships they would follow if this one was so much the same. Hell its basic math, everything positive with her is with naruto, everything negative, whenever sasuke causes crap. Hell ever since 635 came, this was a notion of SS breaking apart, now after 693, its the only pairing to get closure, but closure as never gonna happen in any reasonable way now, SS died here.

 

Then came 615, NH fans chanted for 3 weeks through, yet who would have guessed this was the last real NH moment of the manga? Naruto sure didn't focus on Hinata at all after this, yet nejis death has preoccupied his mind. And then came the chapter that broke the internet and shut down narutofourms and base for a good while. But yeah, the following broken logic and discontent of other pairing fans was funnier than the reaction of naruto, sakura, and minato in this short string giving proof that sakura and kushina were paralleled. If people tried to dodge this as being in sync with 504, well its them ignoring something that may be obvious.

 

Then came 662, everyone thought Hinata would help Naruto by loving him and Sakura would just rush to Sasuke like the stuff from 635 didn't matter, well Sakura went to help Naruto and Karin (at least attempted and worried over) Sasuke. Then came the biggest dual gut buster to the NH fandom I could ever think of, HInata missing out and Sakura getting a moment with naruto, not the CPR but the memories of his dream and wanting him to become hokage, seriously, this is the type of scene an intended couple would get, the heroine not giving up on the hero and showing the important stuff. Really looking back, I see 663 as the opposite of 693, where 693 was SS shattering, this one, 663, was showing how much Naruto had come to impact Sakura, to the point she wanted his dream to come true, you don't see this with Hinata or any other girl now do you?

 

Then came 685, people said SS would come, well 693 answered that and now SS is well, nothing. And to add a case of double irony, in that same chapter, the promise that everyone said Naruto abandoned or gave up on, well he was still very much on it, and so now we have the promise, take that with 457, aka this means most likely Naruto is still intent and again, still in love with Sakura. So much for 631 being a "joke"

 

Then as a special case, people in 691 said that the sakura-kushina deal didn't matter since naruto didn't answer, and yet trying to say this, just completely backfires on any NH/SS fans trying to break it, because this doesn't change what we saw before with anything Sakura-Kushina related, Minato met no other girl but Sakura and compared her to Kushina, and even then, this still wouldnt help or bloster anything for NH and SS. It was even a case in which NS fans could legeimately argue that Sakura being there and the promise unfulfilled is why he couldnt tell Minato, and even then, again people are expecting naruto to not succeed with Sakura if he has the promise and his reason from 457 still? It boggles me to this day why people cheer for naruto to succeed in everything expect sakura... and even then it may just be saved to be revealed in the movie or just, again, not the right time since the final fight was to start.

 

Look at it all, you see this arguments from the past shot down one after another, NS has made a case for itself to why it should be the considered pairing, even then this late, in the final chapters or the movie this can be addressed and bring everything forward. Really to me, NH and SS are out of moves, NH is dead in the dirt and SS is just no longer alive or believable. If you ask me, again, we won this, the reasons are still there, the notions are still there, the possibility for it still exists in the end of the manga and the movie if it should be revealed there. This is why I believe the pairing wars are in a checkmate now and just need to be revealed. Even if NS somehow didn't go canon after this, well least we had the best run and SS died for all reasons so now, its just an asspull.

 

But yeah, I think we have this, you never know, it could be in our favor after 693 as said before. But as I see it, we have the high ground and SS was KO'd and NH is still moving through the mud. So now its just a matter of waiting for the right time if NS should come.

[BlazingDynamo]

Lol, it's just the same theories, with the new one being Hinata facing the side while the others facing the front means something for NH. Trying to up her relevance like always.

Well if Hinata is pregnant in the movie (which is what the NH fans are expecting) then we're doomed but after seeing Hinata's face in the bulletin I'm not giving up on NaruSaku no matter how many times SS fans keep telling the NS fans that Sakura loves Sasuke and will always love Sasuke same thing for Hinata she will love Naruto and will always love Naruto no matter what I don't give 2 craps if SS and NH fans tell NS fans to give it up just because they say Sakura doesn't love Naruto or Naruto doesn't love Sakura I do believe their wrong.

 

How about looking at it like this?

 

A real debate topic:

 

Throughout the years, in the pairing debates, NH and SS fans have constantly said NS wouldn't happen, yet as the manga went on, ironically, its like these arguements against NS fell flat out. Not the simpleton ones like Sakura caring nothing for Naruto or Naruto giving up on Sakura or the promise, I mean the ones that just fell out over time that had reason at one point but then just died.

 

I mean like:

 

437, Hinata confesses, but nothing save a small remembrance was made since then, otherwise no confrontation has occured with this and afterwards Sakura hugged Naruto and we even got a reason for why NS just couldnt happen (aside from the land of iron events that Sakura couldnt just force herself to love Naruto but she still grew from this and came to support him).

 

469, many said Naruto was over Sakura and would move towards Hinata, yet this never happened and Hinata had no moments of growing with him nor naruto getting with her more often. Had the war had them together for a bit, this could have changed for NHs benefit but it didn't.

 

504, we got kushinas foreshadow, people claimed NS was dead yet why have narutos mother say find a girl like her and hint NS if it was truely dead? Hinata had nothing in common with Kushina (save being kidnapped by the cloud and thats not something to brag about) Hell, even the backstory and the similar looking down upon minato and hating her hair, that was enough to say who she was like, I mean even then, look what happened later on with the infamous 631, look at RtN, look at Ultimate Ninja storm revolution, even with these 2 non-canon deals, can anyone honestly say Hinata is like Kushina at this point? Kushina sure seems to have the similar tsundere, smash stuff with her fists in comical fashion just like Sakura (and to other degrees Tsunade) but hell, its just that past releationship.

 

540, people said Sakura is always stuck on Sasuke and loves him regardless, yet she came to distrust him and was antagoniszed by it, hell she was angry at him too. No matter how one looks at it, she cares for him and wants to save him, but the aspect of love, this is not, love is supposed to be good, not antagonistic or negative like this, seriously, if there are SS fans who ship this because of how it is, I would seriously want to know what other antagonsitic void of anything positive ships they would follow if this one was so much the same. Hell its basic math, everything positive with her is with naruto, everything negative, whenever sasuke causes crap. Hell ever since 635 came, this was a notion of SS breaking apart, now after 693, its the only pairing to get closure, but closure as never gonna happen in any reasonable way now, SS died here.

 

Then came 615, NH fans chanted for 3 weeks through, yet who would have guessed this was the last real NH moment of the manga? Naruto sure didn't focus on Hinata at all after this, yet nejis death has preoccupied his mind. And then came the chapter that broke the internet and shut down narutofourms and base for a good while. But yeah, the following broken logic and discontent of other pairing fans was funnier than the reaction of naruto, sakura, and minato in this short string giving proof that sakura and kushina were paralleled. If people tried to dodge this as being in sync with 504, well its them ignoring something that may be obvious.

 

Then came 662, everyone thought Hinata would help Naruto by loving him and Sakura would just rush to Sasuke like the stuff from 635 didn't matter, well Sakura went to help Naruto and Karin (at least attempted and worried over) Sasuke. Then came the biggest dual gut buster to the NH fandom I could ever think of, HInata missing out and Sakura getting a moment with naruto, not the CPR but the memories of his dream and wanting him to become hokage, seriously, this is the type of scene an intended couple would get, the heroine not giving up on the hero and showing the important stuff. Really looking back, I see 663 as the opposite of 693, where 693 was SS shattering, this one, 663, was showing how much Naruto had come to impact Sakura, to the point she wanted his dream to come true, you don't see this with Hinata or any other girl now do you?

 

Then came 685, people said SS would come, well 693 answered that and now SS is well, nothing. And to add a case of double irony, in that same chapter, the promise that everyone said Naruto abandoned or gave up on, well he was still very much on it, and so now we have the promise, take that with 457, aka this means most likely Naruto is still intent and again, still in love with Sakura. So much for 631 being a "joke"

 

Then as a special case, people in 691 said that the sakura-kushina deal didn't matter since naruto didn't answer, and yet trying to say this, just completely backfires on any NH/SS fans trying to break it, because this doesn't change what we saw before with anything Sakura-Kushina related, Minato met no other girl but Sakura and compared her to Kushina, and even then, this still wouldnt help or bloster anything for NH and SS. It was even a case in which NS fans could legeimately argue that Sakura being there and the promise unfulfilled is why he couldnt tell Minato, and even then, again people are expecting naruto to not succeed with Sakura if he has the promise and his reason from 457 still? It boggles me to this day why people cheer for naruto to succeed in everything expect sakura... and even then it may just be saved to be revealed in the movie or just, again, not the right time since the final fight was to start.

 

Look at it all, you see this arguments from the past shot down one after another, NS has made a case for itself to why it should be the considered pairing, even then this late, in the final chapters or the movie this can be addressed and bring everything forward. Really to me, NH and SS are out of moves, NH is dead in the dirt and SS is just no longer alive or believable. If you ask me, again, we won this, the reasons are still there, the notions are still there, the possibility for it still exists in the end of the manga and the movie if it should be revealed there. This is why I believe the pairing wars are in a checkmate now and just need to be revealed. Even if NS somehow didn't go canon after this, well least we had the best run and SS died for all reasons so now, its just an asspull.

 

But yeah, I think we have this, you never know, it could be in our favor after 693 as said before. But as I see it, we have the high ground and SS was KO'd and NH is still moving through the mud. So now its just a matter of waiting for the right time if NS should come.

I think NH is getting there but the shipping war is not over yet

[Sedna]

I always try to have reasonable debates with NH/SS fans, but it never ends well. ^

[KnS]

NH hasn't been relevant for over 79 chapters. It's literally one of the biggest non-factors to NS right now.

 

You mean Hinata hasn't been relevant.  There is no NH and never has been.  Can't have NH without Naruto, and he's never shown any interest in her.  Why is it so easy for people to forget that all-important detail?

Actually on Youtube the NH fans are still strong about Naruto going to Hinata instead of Sakura well some of them are. They're 100% confident.

 

Maybe, but what YouTube users think or say doesn't matter or belong here.

Well if Hinata is pregnant in the movie (which is what the NH fans are expecting) then we're doomed 

 

WTF?  Why on Earth would that mean doom?

[BlazingDynamo]

 

You mean Hinata hasn't been relevant.  There is no NH and never has been.  Can't have NH without Naruto, and he's never shown any interest in her.  Why is it so easy for people to forget that all-important detail?

 

Maybe, but what YouTube users think or say doesn't matter or belong here.

 

WTF?  Why on Earth would that mean doom?

Idk just ignore my comment lol

[Swagkura]

You mean Hinata hasn't been relevant.  There is no NH and never has been.  Can't have NH without Naruto, and he's never shown any interest in her.  Why is it so easy for people to forget that all-important detail?

I usually don't. But most of the times, Hinata can't be brought up without mentioning NH.

[KnS]

Idk just ignore my comment lol

 

I just hate to see so many people still worrying.  We're in great shape, pairings-wise.  No reason to ruin the final pages of the manga, and the final build up to so much we've waited for, when we should be excited!  

 

Cheer up! 

[BlazingDynamo]

 

I just hate to see so many people still worrying.  We're in great shape, pairings-wise.  No reason to ruin the final pages of the manga, and the final build up to so much we've waited for, when we should be excited!  

 

Cheer up! 

Yeah thanks and sorry about that I'm trying my best to have faith.

[KnS]

Yeah thanks and sorry about that I'm trying my best to have faith.

 

Can you explain your concerns?  I'm sure there are a lot of people who would love to chip in with positive thoughts.  

 

What's got you worried?   I mean, what are you really afraid will happen?  Tell us, and let us help allay your fears.

[Inferno180]

This is why ns is fine, the stuff is still there, and because it's there, well it's not impossible or exactly wrong to suspect that something minor or moderate could occur within the remaining time of the manga or at least set something up ns related for the movie. Anyway it goes, all that ns stuff is still there and I hope it gets answered.

Heck even now, it would be worth it in itself if sakura discovered naruto was the one who complimented her, it's not the biggest thing but it would still be a full circle deal for her to see the "nice Sasuke" she liked was actually naruto. Rather at last naruto should be able to finish the promise and get a mutual reaction from sakura. There are a lot of ways it can go with the movie.

[Serenity Namikaze]

 

I just hate to see so many people still worrying.  We're in great shape, pairings-wise.  No reason to ruin the final pages of the manga, and the final build up to so much we've waited for, when we should be excited!  

 

Cheer up! 

 

I feel you, I don't know why there are so many people that worry about the pairing. I think instead, we should all try to enjoy what's left and be patient as the manga is not finish yet and NS can still happen. I still firmly believe that it will, I'm just patient to see the moment to come and even with all that happened in the previous chapters ( mostly during the war), it didn't make me lose my belief for NS. 

 

There is so many moments for NS and Kishi love to go back to chapters wayyy back, ex : Kakashi that say to the team 7 'I like you' when they beat Kaguya together, it was referring to the chapter 4 when Kakashi was first introduced to his team and the first thing he said when he saw them is ' I don't like you guys'. So what stop Kishi from going back again and relive the chapter 3, the bench scene, when Naruto ( disguised as Sasuke) compliment Sakura's forehead and make her live a moment she always dream of? Of course, it may not happen but I firmly believe now more then ever that it will comeback because there are a lot of moment in this manga that can make us believe that it could happen. Why did Naruto ask, of all the questions he could ask to his mother, how did she and his dad fell in love? There are so many things he could have asked first but this is the first thing that came into mind. Why, in her explanation of how it did happen, she mentioned that she didn't like her hair but thanks to it, she fell in love with Minato because he complimented the thing in herself she most hated?

 

Anyway, for now all I'll say is, let's be patient, the manga is not finish, we can still have NS official. I will continue to enjoy the rest and be patient and positive because I'm really confident that NS will happen :)

[Illnevergiveup3]

we will get a kiss between Naruto and Sakura-Chan and I'll say why.

Back in the bench scene she was gone kiss Sasuke(Naruto). If it comes back full circle then we will get a kiss.

[BlazingDynamo]

 

Can you explain your concerns?  I'm sure there are a lot of people who would love to chip in with positive thoughts.  

 

What's got you worried?   I mean, what are you really afraid will happen?  Tell us, and let us help allay your fears.

I honestly don't know.

[Paul Blowfish]

we will get a kiss between Naruto and Sakura-Chan and I'll say why.
Back in the bench scene she was gone kiss Sasuke(Naruto). If it comes back full circle then we will get a kiss.

The Forehead Scene? Sorry, I'm a bit rusty on my Naruto.

I agree, I think that it would be that one loose end that would forever bother at least me, and Kishi ( in my opinion ) should resolve that. With a kiss is nice.

[Serenity Namikaze]

The Forehead Scene? Sorry, I'm a bit rusty on my Naruto.

I agree, I think that it would be that one loose end that would forever bother at least me, and Kishi ( in my opinion ) should resolve that. With a kiss is nice.

 

Go back and read chapter 3, it is where you see the forehead scene.

[Paul Blowfish]

Go back and read chapter 3, it is where you see the forehead scene.

I remember now, thanks. Do you think Kishi will be able to resolve all that and not to mention current events all in five chapters?

[Illnevergiveup3]

I remember now, thanks. Do you think Kishi will be able to resolve all that and not to mention current events all in five chapters?

four chapters now lol, but he has to add more pages to each chapter. 20 pages won't cut it.