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[HalfStarStudios]

fine sakura is smarter.

and SINCE shikamaru was shown to take down big guys with his brain (that arent MADARA!! )

im sure sakura who is stronger or equal stength(fists) can use her brains to take out rage jugo

i mean he doesnt seem to smart when hes raging.............

I can't see what she will do to take out Juugo though. If she gets close to him, he will just blow her away with his canons which will kill her. He also tanked a punch from V1 A who's stronger than Sakura.

[Don-kun]

I can't see what she will do to take out Juugo though. If she gets close to him, he will just blow her away with his canons which will kill her. He also tanked a punch from V1 A who's stronger than Sakura.

I realize this and I give her credit for out smarting Sasori but you have to remember what happened before that. Chiyo was controlling her when she was fighting the Kazekage puppet. Had she been on her own, she would have never gotten the chance to even trick it. He was making it out to seem that Sakura solo'd it. That's my point.

Hey you can agree to disagree, by being so negative and not optimistic about her progress you kind of sound like you only see her as a good complement for the Kiching. I think like most of the user here if Sakura fight against Jugo she will win the fight, if her fight is against Sui she will win, the problem is will Kishi allow that fight to happen. Like I said you sound like an anti Sakura fan, more than a pro fan.

One thing is to believe a fight will never happen, but another is to think that Sakura will fight against a none main villain and lose is a equal way of thinking just like an Anti Sakura fan.

Edited by NS means logic, 15 August 2012 - 09:26 PM.

[T XD]

umm.. guys, why don't we just agree that sakura is strong and smart but it depends on which enemy she can win the fight. in the end every character has his/her own unique abilities and techniques

it had taken almost 2 and a half pages

Edited by T XD, 15 August 2012 - 09:26 PM.

[HalfStarStudios]

Hey you can agree to disagree, by being so negative and not optimistic about her progress you kind of sound like you only see her as a good complement for the Kiching. I think like most of the user here if Sakura fight against Jugo she will win the fight, if her fight is against Sui she will win, the problem is will Kishi allow that fight to happen. Like I said you sound like an anti Sakura fan, more than a pro fan.

One thing is to believe a fight will never happen, but another is to think that Sakura will fight against a none main villain and lose is a equal way of thinking just like an Anti Sakura fan.

I was just talking about her fighting Team Taka. Can you give me any reasons on why she will win the fight? Just because I say she can't beat Team Taka doesn't mean i'm not her fan. It just means i'm not a blind fanboy. Instead of saying i'm an Anti-Sakura, why don't you actually debate with me and prove me wrong?

EDIT:So wait, Orochimaru isn't a main villain, does that mean Sakura could beat him? Hidan isn't a main villain, does that mean Sakura could beat him? Kakuzu isn't a main villain, does that mean Sakura can beat him? Kisame isn't a main villain, does that mean Sakura could beat him? Kabuto isn't a main villain, does that mean that Sakura could beat him? Shall I continue?

Edited by HalfStarStudios, 15 August 2012 - 09:35 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well man she cant beat team taka or any of the malone for the simple fact she is a support role and plus that fight with sasori when sakura when chyo-baa was using sakura as her pupper sakura dodge and speed skills greatly increased, she just using her strenght, and that puppet she got him by surprise because sasri thought she was poisoned.

sakura is a medic-ninja, she cant beat anyone alone, the entire manga shows this she never fight someome alone and when we have a fight or sasuke or naruto have the spotlight, second look at tsunade, she could not even lay a single punch on pain, i know that she was weakened by her jutsu but it shows that she's a type of ninja that heals and protect ur allies, she even say this when she fight madara, the 3 rules, sakura skills is most for survival( dodge) and her mighty punch mostly for the last case.

[HalfStarStudios]

Well man she cant beat team taka or any of the malone for the simple fact she is a support role and plus that fight with sasori when sakura when chyo-baa was using sakura as her pupper sakura dodge and speed skills greatly increased, she just using her strenght, and that puppet she got him by surprise because sasri thought she was poisoned.

sakura is a medic-ninja, she cant beat anyone alone, the entire manga shows this she never fight someome alone and when we have a fight or sasuke or naruto have the spotlight, second look at tsunade, she could not even lay a single punch on pain, i know that she was weakened by her jutsu but it shows that she's a type of ninja that heals and protect ur allies, she even say this when she fight madara, the 3 rules, sakura skills is most for survival( dodge) and her mighty punch mostly for the last case.

Pretty much this. Though she can beat some people on her own. Yeah, i'm looking at you Iruka. xD She would own Hinata and Naraka Path too.

Edited by HalfStarStudios, 15 August 2012 - 09:39 PM.

[Don-kun]

I was just talking about her fighting Team Taka. Can you give me any reasons on why she will win the fight? Just because I say she can't beat Team Taka doesn't mean i'm not her fan. It just means i'm not a blind fanboy. Instead of saying i'm an Anti-Sakura, why don't you actually debate with me and prove me wrong?

HalfStarStudios is not the fact that you don't think she will get and important fight, is the fact that you believe that if she get matched against Jugo or Sui she will lose, a fan will never think that way and worse if you know that she have plot shield, you are only downgrading Sakura and you keep doing it for a long time, yes you want to be realistic but you sound very negative, because no one in their right mind will believe that if she do get that fight been the main female lead and will still lose.
Naruto and Sakura has plot armor shield if you didn't know that.

Edited by NS means logic, 15 August 2012 - 09:45 PM.

[HalfStarStudios]

HalfStarStudios is not the fact that you don't think she will get and important fight, is the fact that you believe that if she get matched against H
Jugo or Sui she will lose, a fan will never think that way and worse if you know that she have plot shield, you are only downgrading Sakura and you keep doing it for a long time, yes you want to be realistic but you sound very negative, because no one in their right mind will believe that if she do get that fight been the main female lead and still lose.
Naruto and Sakura has plot armor.

I believe I did say she would give Juugo a run for his money. I do think she will get an important fight though it will not be a 1v1 fight. I'm hoping that she gets a powerup and fights against the Juubi with Naruto,Bee and Butterfly Chouji. That would be a dream come true. I'm a fan of Itachi's though I think that he would lose to Naruto,Tobi and Madara. I'm a fan of Konohamaru's but I think he would lose to Juugo,Sakura,Suigetsu,Kakuzu etc. Just because i'm a fan doesn't mean i'm going to blindly defend her. That would make be no better than the Hinatas fans who overrate her.

Sorry, i'm just used to the Mangafox VS Sections where we don't count plot armor. Also you didn't answer my question. You said i'm a Sakura basher if I think she loses to a bad guy who isn't Tobi and Madara. That means she can defeat Orochimaru, Hidan, Kakuzu, Kisame, Kabuto, Shall I continue?

Edited by HalfStarStudios, 15 August 2012 - 09:55 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

HalfStarStudios is not the fact that you don't think she will get and important fight, is the fact that you believe that if she get matched against H
Jugo or Sui she will lose, a fan will never think that way and worse if you know that she have plot shield, you are only downgrading Sakura and you keep doing it for a long time, yes you want to be realistic but you sound very negative, because no one in their right mind will believe that if she do get that fight been the main female lead and still lose.
Naruto and Sakura has plot armor.

we are not downgrading her, we are just saying for someome that does not come from a pretigious clan, that does not have a sharingan, that does not have anything special or exclusive she went too far, the fact that her determination comes from naruto, u think that she would enter a fight and kick everyone's ass but no it would be awkward, she has a role if kishi chooses her to be a support one so just respect, naruto and sakura duo can beat almost any opponent on the shinobi world, for me thsi is most important.

Edited by dovahkiin, 15 August 2012 - 09:49 PM.

[HalfStarStudios]

we are not downgrading her, we are just saying for someome that does not come from a pretigious clan, that does not have a sharingan, that does not have anything special or exclusive she went too far, the fact that her determination comes from naruto, u think that she would enter a fight and kick everyone's ass but no it would be awkward, she has a role if kishi chooses her to be a support one so just respect, naruto and sakura duo can beat almost any opponent on the shinobi world, for me thsi is most important.

How awesome would it be if Naruto got the actual Kurama transformation, ate Sakura(bowchicabowwow) and let her eat his insides(bowchicabowwow...wtf) and she came out with Kuramas chakra inside of her like the Gin/Kin brothers? D

[Transformers03]

I use to think the same way you do with that bench scene, but not anymore. The bench scene will not be the reason why Sakura will choose Naruto, something that I believe she already did. The bench scene will be used to assure Sakura that Naruto was always the right man for her and she glad that she made the right choice.

You also mention something about her confession, her confession was not created because she starts thinking about Naruto in a romantic light, was because of guilt, I mention before that she has feeling for Naruto but she has not thought about them I also gave you Yamato's speech has reference, she was shocked when he told her how strong she feels about Naruto.

With Sasuke is not the same she desire to be with him since she was 8 , is truth that Sasuke never gave her a genuine reason to change her crush to genuine love proven by her flashback plus is not something she can decide to stop from one day to the other, look at Karin he stabbed her and was ready to finish her before Sakura save her and Kishi still imply that she might still have feelings for him.

The moment Naruto, the person who Sakura cares about the most open up to her and she denies his feelings, that will be the only time you can say that she truly loves Sasuke and to be honest at this point I really doubt that she wants to establish a relationship with Sasuke, but very positive that she will love to address her feelings for Naruto at some time.

I agree with you, and I never said that the bench scene will be the reason why Sakura will fall in love with Naruto, in fact I clearly stated in one of my earlier post that that isn't the way I want Naruto to win Sakura over (if he hasn't already). I'm saying it will be the reason of how Sakura falls out of love for Sasuke, because we haven't been given a good reason for her to have been in love with Sasuke and for her to still have those feelings. The bench scene is the only major positive romantic moment that Sakura believes that she had with Sasuke (this part is speculating on my part, but, really, what other major moments they had together that implied Sasuke was into Sakura).

Also, I brought the confession up because at the moment there would be no reason for her to at least START seeing Naruto as a potential love interest. I understand if she starts thinking about Naruto as a potential love interest would probably end this pairing wars thing, because we will know that Naruto will win, and the author will probably want to drag this out little bit longer. But, seriously, at this point, Sakura loving Sasuke makes no sense, unless the scenes shared together (including that infamous bench scene) were a lot more important then they seem.

[Don-kun]

we are not downgrading her, we are just saying for someome that does not come from a pretigious clan, that does not have a sharingan, that does not have anything special or exclusive she went too far, the fact that her determination comes from naruto, u think that she would enter a fight and kick everyone's ass but no it would be awkward, she has a role if kishi chooses her to be a support one so just respect, naruto and sakura duo can beat almost any opponent on the shinobi world, for me thsi is most important.

Again this is my point if Kishimoto, if Kishimoto do created that scenario while I do believe Juugo is a lot stronger than Sakura and her punch has zero effect on Suigetsu if the fight happen is only logical to believe that she will win, why because the good guys always win and Kishi will pull something from his *** to make that happen, why again because she is the main character and each member of Team 7 will win against their rival.
If you ask me if I believe that she is stronger than Suigetsu or Juugo, I don't think so. But if you ask me that if she will win a life or death battle against one of the two character I mention I will say yes.

And that's my point you people are saying that no matter what she will never win, but as the main character every single person know she will win only who hate her will wish her to lose.


Side Note:
HalfStarStudios
I'm not calling you a Sakura hater I just say that that is how Sakura's haters behave they will use all kinds of argument to prove that Sakura is useless while the one who like her character and knows that if she face off against someone that isn't Madara, Tobi, Sasuke or Orochimaru she will win.

Edited by NS means logic, 15 August 2012 - 10:09 PM.

[HalfStarStudios]

Again this is my point if Kishimoto, if Kishimoto do created that scenario while I do believe Juugo is a lot stronger than Sakura and her punch has zero effect on Suigetsu if the fight happen is only logical to believe that she will win, why because the strong guys always win and Kishi will pull something from his *** to make that happen, why again because she is the main character and each member of Team 7 will win against their rival.
If you ask me if I believe that she is stronger than Suigetsu or Juugo, I don't think so. But if you ask me that if she will win a life or death battle against one of the two character I mention I will say yes.

And that's my point you people are saying that no matter what she will never win, but as the main character every single person know she will win only who hate her will wish her to lose.

Well yeah then we can agree on that. It would be an asspull but yeah, that would happen. Now without all the BS, would she win? Not a chance.

[merryGOflava]

Well yeah then we can agree on that. It would be an asspull but yeah, that would happen. Now without all the BS, would she win? Not a chance.

i still think she can.
kishi just made juugo seem super-powerful for someone like sakura to overcome.

but i guess thats another plot-shield :3

but then again juugo was made to support a plot shield so why not.

[sushi.]

I don't know if Sakura can take Juugo. I mean, if he rages, and becomes this monster, I doubt it. Unless she poison him or something. But I feel like that match have to be really fast, because one hit can probably destroy eachother, so maybe she'll win one day and lose another. I don't know who'll be on the lead

[merryGOflava]

I don't know if Sakura can take Juugo. I mean, if he rages, and becomes this monster, I doubt it. Unless she poison him or something. But I feel like that match have to be really fast, because one hit can probably destroy eachother, so maybe she'll win one day and lose another. I don't know who'll be on the lead

yea he is super strong in rage mode :3

but doesnt he also lose himself when he goes monster crazy

i can see sakura using that to her advantage, her brains against his brawn XD

[TerrorKing]

I think some people are missing the point of Sakura's confession. Yes, what she did to Naruto was very manipulative. However, being manipulative isn't always a bad thing. It all depends on whether you do it for your own sake, or someone else's sake.

For example, using other peoples feelings in order to obtain certain things or making them do things for you. That would be an example of "bad" manipulation.

But that's not what Sakura's confession was about.

Sakura only had Naruto's well being in mind when she confessed. She knew that Sasuke had pretty much gone off the deep end and she also knew that Naruto wouldn't listen to reason, not when it comes to Sasuke. As such, the only way was to manipulate Naruto into "giving up" on chasing Sasuke.

Now I'm not saying it was a particularly brilliant plan. If anything, it was pretty shortsighted. I mean, if her feelings for Naruto still weren't genuine at this point, how long would she have been able to keep pretending? Also, what would she do when Naruto later found out that Sasuke had been killed, either by her or by someone else from Konoha? Still, she had her heart in the right place and judging from her attitude during their conversation, she seemed willing to accept the consequences of what she was about to do, which would undoubtedly be that Naruto would probably hate her forever.

Now some might say that her confession was selfish because she only did it to alleviate her own guilt. That's true, but noone is truly selfless. Hinata's confession to Naruto was pretty selfish. Hell, even Naruto's desire to save Sasuke is also a bit selfish.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Incorrect, she didn't fight the Kazekage puppet on her own. Chiyo was controlling her for most of the battle. Sakura got the Kazekage puppet in a surprise attack. Now had they fought again, The Kazekage puppet would destroy Sakura.

Not really seeing as Sakura won't be able to damage them. First of all, that wasn't CS2 Juugo. That wasn't even CS1 Juugo. Also you have to remember there's a difference between natural strength and chakra controlled punches. Sakura hasn't shown any natural strength. For example, picking up a huge Rhino(SM Naruto) and Gamabuntas Sword(Tsunade). Sakura does have a stronger punch though, no doubt. Now as for over powering, in a hand to hand combat match, Sakura would win but Juugo doesn't have to only use Hand to Hand. He can just spam his chakra canons when Sakura get's close. Now with Suigetsu there, it won't even be a challenge. She can't handle both of them in a Taijutsu match. Any attack towards Suigetsu will be useless since he's made out of water. Remember what Suigetsu did to Juugo when Juugo punched him? He let Juugo through him and had some water suffocate Juugo. That will exactly happen to Sakura. Sakura has no Raiton(Suigetsus weakness) or an mountain busting explosion type move(Bijuudama) to take out Suigetsu. She will lose horribly. Even with Hinata, they still can't win. Though Hinata will do better against Suigetsu than Sakura because of her Gentle Fist but in the end, she would also lose.

With Sakuras average speed and average Taijutsu skills, I can't see her beating Team Taka together let alone beating them in 1v1(except for Karin). Juugo and Suigetsu tanked a punch from V1 A like it was nothing, do you really think a punch from Sakura is going to hurt them? I love Sakura, but there's no way in hell she's gonna beat them without a powerup.

1.Shikamaru is smarter than Naruto, does that mean he can beat him? o:
2.So? Does that mean she can beat Madara since she's the heroine?
3.Well she's physically stronger than him. He just outclasses her in speed,ninjutsu and Taijutsu. :/

Yes she was controling Sakura through half the battle, but in the end. It was on her own rather the punch was surprise or not to defeat the Kazekage puppet, being poisoned by the Iron Sand. And this is where her anti-fanbase failed to see, which Chiyo explained in this chapter. http://www.mangarush.../naruto/270/p-8

And this was her first big fight, fighting the elites (not sparring). She never had experience fighting these level of opponents before in her life. She was a little sluggish at the beginning and throughout the middle course. But she was beginning to get the feeling and concept of discerning her adversary. And this is where most of the experience comes from with her fight with Sasori. And I do believe if she ever had a shot at the Kazekage Puppet again. She will prevail, because she had more than enough time to anylize every jutsu and techniques Sasori possessed in his arsenal, written in her journal (off screen). So when she incounters another opponent like Sasori again. She can improve how to over come that odds.

Plus that was ages ago, and I'm pretty sure she's gotten stronger by then.

And Karin, Suigetsu and Jugo will be something like fighting Sasori all by herself. And I'm sure it will take all three of them to defeat Sakura. She's that powerful of a character.

[Branden]

How awesome would it be if Naruto got the actual Kurama transformation, ate Sakura(bowchicabowwow) and let her eat his insides(bowchicabowwow...wtf) and she came out with Kuramas chakra inside of her like the Gin/Kin brothers? D

MAKE IT HAPPEN

[T XD]

How awesome would it be if Naruto got the actual Kurama transformation, ate Sakura(bowchicabowwow) and let her eat his insides(bowchicabowwow...wtf) and she came out with Kuramas chakra inside of her like the Gin/Kin brothers? D

it can happen but in hentai comics and who knows, maybe after they get together we might see something like this.................. nah, it's a long shot for hentais in the series , although i wouldn't mind seeing some of this action between them

so any thoughts on what might could happen when sakura arrives to the battle ground where naruto is, i can definitely see some narusaku happening XD. i think there's going to be some other fights happening around the main battle of naruto or all the characters fight against tobi but he give them hard times by using a new jutsu like he always does and of course if it happen that way there will be some chapters of thinking how to defeat him like we are seeing now.

Edited by T XD, 16 August 2012 - 09:24 AM.