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#35121 Liu bie

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:15 PM

Well it's because we up against the true final boss:





OPEN ENDING!!!


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:19 PM

Actually, my "logical reasoning" is not based on actual logic, but rather Kishi's writing style and being genre savvy.

So people believe it is possible that Kishi can change both Naruto's and Sasuke's heart so easily at the drop of a hat in a matter of 5 chapters yet apparently, Karin is still in love with Sasuke despite everything that went on, Ino is still in love with Sasuke despite everything that has gone on, and Hinata is definitely still in love with Naruto despite him claiming to love Sakura out in the open and even in front of her? Sakura has been the ONLY character to show any change what so ever and that change has been hinted at many of times in both the manga, the official databooks, and even in interviews.
 

So you're going to tell me, by Kishi's own logic mind you, that it is so easily and very plausible for him to change Naruto's and Sasuke's heart that quickly, but when it comes to Ino, Hinata, and Karin that is just too much?

No, if you know a writer's style enough you can tell the patterns. If he can't change Hinata's, Ino's, and Karin's heart after all the stuff he has ever done, shown, and have made the characters say....then there is no way he can just have Naruto's and Sasuke's heart change that quickly simply because that would not be his style.

It's plausible because I've learned some time ago that anything is possible with Kishi's story. That being said in my rants I pointed out that the only place Kishi has been consistent is in the pairing department. I do not think for once second that NaruSaku will not be the end pairing, after all that's happened. Naruto and Sakura ending up together was made perfectly clear from chapter 3. There's no denying it. NaruSaku is the end pairing.

 

However I do understand people that "fear" an open ending or NH/SS, simply because of Kishi's writing style when it comes to everything but the pairings.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:24 PM

It's plausible because I've learned some time ago that anything is possible with Kishi's story. That being said in my rants I pointed out that the only place Kishi has been consistent is in the pairing department. I do not think for once second that NaruSaku will not be the end pairing, after all that's happened. Naruto and Sakura ending up together was made perfectly clear from chapter 3. There's no denying it. NaruSaku is the end pairing.

 

However I do understand people that "fear" an open ending or NH/SS, simply because of Kishi's writing style when it comes to everything but the pairings.

Then SS and NH are not plausible what so ever. If you really believe that, then you can't say that Naruto and Sasuke changing their hearts is plausible. It never was plausible.


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:37 PM

i heard from takl that final chapter will have 39pages + extra chapter, maybe as as set-up for fanbook or the movie.


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:38 PM

i heard from takl that final chapter will have 39pages + extra chapter, maybe as as set-up for fanbook or the movie.

38 pages of naru/sasu and 1 page of naruto and sakura. 


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:39 PM

i heard from takl that final chapter will have 39pages + extra chapter, maybe as as set-up for fanbook or the movie.

So it will be an epilouge chapter and extra chapter might be for the movie.


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:41 PM

38 pages of naru/sasu and 1 panel about naruto and sakura. 

 

fixed

 

the new era is

 

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:42 PM

38 pages of naru/sasu and 1 page of naruto and sakura. 

 

Can they include KakaIru as well? For the final pairing.  :chuckle:


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:43 PM

Can't see the new era


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:44 PM

Then SS and NH are not plausible what so ever. If you really believe that, then you can't say that Naruto and Sasuke changing their hearts is plausible. It never was plausible.

Oh for God's sake man. I didn't say that Naruto and Sasuke are all of a sudden going to change their hearts. I'm referring to the fact that given Kishi's writing style, I do understand people that believe that. Believe it. :lol: However Kishi has always been consistent when it came to the pairings. It has always been the same, Sasuke shows no interest in Sakura, Naruto shows interest and Sakura but more in Sasuke :lol:, and Sakura shows interest in Sasuke but has also shows interest in Naruto. And Hinata well she has the rock.


Edited by Nostradamus, 06 October 2014 - 05:46 PM.

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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:46 PM

Oh for God's sake man. I didn't say that Naruto and Sasuke are all of a sudden going to change their hearts. I'm referring to the fact that given Kishi's writing style, I do understand people that believe that. Believe it. :lol: However Kishi has always been consistent when it came to the pairings. It has always been the same, Sasuke shows no interest in Sakura, Naruto shows interest and Sakura but more in Sasuke :lol:, and Sakura shows interest in Sasuke but has also shown interest in Naruto.

Ummm....

 

I don't see it as fear. I see it as perfectly logical for Kishi. You see you and I think logically, however Kishi doesn't. Or if he does it's his own logic.

So now no matter how illogical it seems to us, it's perfectly plausible for Kishi.

 

I rest my case. :lol:


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:48 PM

You said it was plausible....I rest my case.

Are you turning into Dark? Because only he has the habit of taking one word of an argument and nullify everything else because of one single word.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:49 PM

i heard from takl that final chapter will have 39pages + extra chapter, maybe as as set-up for fanbook or the movie.

Yeah, maybe the extra chapter will be a tie-in for the movie, like RTN had. And it's good that the final chapter will be at least a little lengthened. Do you know where he got that info from btw? I believe it but I'm just curious.

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:51 PM

So the wednesday chapter and onwards till the final chapter will have the normal amount of pages right?



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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:53 PM

Yeah, maybe the extra chapter will be a tie-in for the movie, like RTN had. And it's good that the final chapter will be at least a little lengthened. Do you know where he got that info from btw? I believe it but I'm just curious.

 

he should have took those info from this guy https://twitter.com/link_papa who is one of 8 assistans of Kishimoto


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:55 PM

Are you turning into Dark? Because only he has the habit of taking one word of an argument and nullify everything else because of one single word.

Hey, you're the one that replied to me, remember? I said I don't understand how people can think this logic and you told me it is plausible for Kishi to do it. I said you can't sit here and say it is plausible when you don't believe it yourself and then you deny you said it at all. So why are you nullifying everything I said by looking at one word?

It's like an atheist telling people to be afraid of god. XD

Also, I didn't look at one word. I looked at 2 sentences containing 13 words including that of "plausible" and "logical."


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:57 PM

 
he should have took those info from this guy https://twitter.com/link_papa who is one of 8 assistans of Kishimoto

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:59 PM

i heard from takl that final chapter will have 39pages + extra chapter, maybe as as set-up for fanbook or the movie.

So an 39 Pages chapter+ 1 CHAPTER extra? Huh? Well, it's better then just 18 pages. I'm glad... a little


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 06:01 PM

I just wanna see an unforgettable ending...


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 06:03 PM

There is NO way that SS and NH can happen. NS has had a constant focus and positive development throughout the manga. One cannot say the same of NH( which is stuck and showing no signs of moving forward ) and SS ( which has got so many blows that I've lost count ). 

 

Despite this obvious advantage NS has over the other two pairings, many are wondering whether Kishi can make NS canon in a satisfactory way........ how on earth can one even consider the possibility of NH/SS then?


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