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[sushi.]

I follow this tool on instagram who just posted a picture of Minato and Kusina with the caption " I love these two", but then their a NH shipper...

 

HOW!?!?!?!?!?!?! It makes no F*ckin sense....sorry its really hot in my house

What do you mean? Are you saying you can't be a MK and NH supporter at the same time?

[arian_rad]

How would you think it will conclude? I feel like Sakura's latest development and this whole Rin thing feels connected in a strange way.

I think the conclusion will be much more rough than sasusaku shippers hope for. I somewhat feel bad for them even though they believe in their ship. Nothing but bad development through all of shippuden=horrible ending to the pairing in general. I feel like it will end in a somewhat of a big shocking way when sakura opposes sasuke. I feel like the words she sais at that moment will be the harshest we have ever heard from sakura to sasuke.

[redragon88]

       

What do you mean? Are you saying you can't be a MK and NH supporter at the same time?

 

I think bthug concluded that those NH supporters must dislike NS by association, and that's what seems to be the issue.

 

Given how much the relationships of NS and MK are implied to be similar some people might find it hypocritical that others express hate towards NS while saying they like MK.

 

I've seen people saying how much they like JiraTsu, and how sad it is that it got a tragic end, and yet at the same time see them show hate towards NS. Even I get a little confused as to how such conclusions can be reached.

 

It's less about the preference of another pairing and more about the implication that they might dislike NS.

[T XD]

@ bthug: What redragon88 said. I want to add cause they prefer NH more despite MK is the same as NS. You can say it's just mere preferences.

[milan kyuubi]

To share my opinion, I think sasusaku is ended (or going to very fast). Because even if Sakura still has feeling for Sasuke, she doesn't trust him anymore. And imo there can't be a realationship without trust.

 

Do you guys think that if we get Rin/Sakura parralel would be good for narusaku or not?

 

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[Inferno180]

When it comes to the land of iron events, most bypass sakura simply because they don't like her. Again when people make a reason, when it comes to bashing, it's just easier to downplay something negatively rather than look for evidence or arguments. It's easier to just go sakura sucks and lied rather than she was lying to naruto about loving her but still likes him as a friend.

The funny thing is, with the land of iron events, the majority of that stuff was Sakura's feelings, she did lie to naruto but again, under good intentions for him, she felt guilty both ways and wanted to do good for naruto.

Even then, looking at just 469, to just end ns suddenly, it makes no sense, too many loose ends. Even after sai said sakura was thinking of narutos feelings, that alone should stand as reason for people to suspect that perhaps there is more to this. Like 469, 540 and 615 were all rushed to conclusions. Just as 631 gave us a big boost, again we are not rushing to conclusions but now nh is stuck waiting to see more if anything builds off or changes from what was shown in 631, but I doubt 631 will change.

In ns the main focus is the development, mainly the feelings both of them have and how we know what naruto does for sakura but also for what sakura does for naruto despite loving another, and it's that aspect of sakura and how she has been very activte towards naruto. The thing we love about ns is that they go through the highs and lows being selfless and caring for each other putting the other before themselves in many times. That stuff is still present too. The parallels are just a side bonus. The development of ns is still the most important thing, it's made a lot of progress and will continue.

[arian_rad]

To share my opinion, I think sasusaku is ended (or going to very fast). Because even if Sakura still has feeling for Sasuke, she doesn't trust him anymore. And imo there can't be a realationship without trust.
 
Do you guys think that if we get Rin/Sakura parralel would be good for narusaku or not?
 
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Not trying to bash or anything. But whats your opinion on this...

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Also, regarding the image, for people to think that Sakura could never love Naruto is somewhat silly, because she already might love him. It has been hinted several times through the canon manga about Sakura's romantic feelings for Naruto. Those will all get answered fully at some point in the future. A lot of people think Sakura's love for sasuke is undying for a certain reason. Why would it be? Is she obligated to love him? Is she obligated to be with a guy who does nothing but hurt her? While sakura's love for sasuke we can all agree on which has been diminishing more and more through the entirety of part 2. We know that her love for Naruto has been growing more and more in the meantime. That's just a silly claim to make that Sakura will never love Naruto. It makes no sense to think that way in my opinion.

Also, I want to add something I noticed. In the land of iron events, when sakura was thinking about naruto and his resolve towards sasuke she said "all I can do is trust them" meaning she trusted naruto AND sasuke. However in most recent events, she does NOT trust sasuke. Could this mean anything more now when taken into consideration that she trusted him during the summit arc?

Edited by arian_rad, 07 July 2013 - 01:28 PM.

[sushi.]

To share my opinion, I think sasusaku is ended (or going to very fast). Because even if Sakura still has feeling for Sasuke, she doesn't trust him anymore. And imo there can't be a realationship without trust.

 

Do you guys think that if we get Rin/Sakura parralel would be good for narusaku or not?

 

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That image is jumping to conclusions. Besides..you can apply that statement will all the ships. Naruto will never love Hinata, Sakura will never love Naruto and Sasuke will never love Sakura. That logic would kill all the pairings.

 

We debate about Sakura's feelings all the time.

 

Anyways, I have a question. How would you describe Sakura's feelings for Sasuke? Is it a crush, love or something else? I don't like it when people disregard it as a crush, because honestly no person in the Naruto universe has a crush. There's always something more. For me, I think she loves the man she thought he was, therefore it's not true love. It's not the kind of love that will bring her happiness..or you guys can show me when Sasuke brought a real smile on her face, without any tricks.

       

 

I think bthug concluded that those NH supporters must dislike NS by association, and that's what seems to be the issue.

 

Given how much the relationships of NS and MK are implied to be similar some people might find it hypocritical that others express hate towards NS while saying they like MK.

 

I've seen people saying how much they like JiraTsu, and how sad it is that it got a tragic end, and yet at the same time see them show hate towards NS. Even I get a little confused as to how such conclusions can be reached.

 

It's less about the preference of another pairing and more about the implication that they might dislike NS.

I see. I agree to an extent. It depends on the reason why someone dislike NS. Many do because as mentioned, they think Sakura will never love Naruto.

 

If you dislike NS because of how they interact with one another, but like MK - then I would regard you as a hypocrite unless you have awesome back up arguments.

 

The backstory is very similar. We can also assume Kushina treated Minato kind of like Sakura treats Naruto, it was hinted when "Minato never won an argument". I think Kishi likes ships where the females are the boss. XD

Edited by sushi., 07 July 2013 - 03:10 PM.

[Lalufuffy]

 

Anyways, I have a question. How would you describe Sakura's feelings for Sasuke? Is it a crush, love or something else? I don't like it when people disregard it as a crush, because honestly no person in the Naruto universe has a crush. There's always something more. For me, I think she loves the man she thought he was, therefore it's not true love. It's not the kind of love that will bring her happiness..or you guys can show me when Sasuke brought a real smile on her face, without any tricks.

 

That's exactly what I think, too. I always write that in the mangafox forum, but then almost everyone says that

I'm delusional. 
She was just wrong about Sasuke back in part one. Otherwise she wouldn't have been shocked and sad when Karui told her that Sasuke had joined Akatsuki. In chapter 453 (page 9, panel 4) Karui asks her

'What is Sasuke to you, anyway?', but Sakura can't even answer that. It's also quite an interesting situation, because Karui is Kunoichi from another village.

Furthermore, after Sasuke had left the village, Sakura had had to force herself to think about him in a positive way for two and a half years. That's a very important point because that's basically the reason why she couldn't move on from him  

until now.

IMO that which Sakura thought was 'love' is in fact just deep compassion. 

Edited by Lalufuffy, 07 July 2013 - 04:23 PM.

[Gravenimage]

Sakura must love Sasuke because it's logic since she had a crush on him in part 1 and also for the sake of NH ever having a chance in becoming canon. Though I agree to feel sorry for the SS fan base that support the pairing not because they support NH too. So much negative development Kishi has done to the pairing since the beginning it's not funny. I have a feeling Kishi might make his move to put the final stake on the pairing's coffin sooner than we might think.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Sakura must love Sasuke because it's logic since she had a crush on him in part 1 and also for the sake of NH ever having a chance in becoming canon. Though I agree to feel sorry for the SS fan base that support the pairing not because they support NH too. So much negative development Kishi has done to the pairing since the beginning it's not funny. I have a feeling Kishi might make his move to put the final stake on the pairing's coffin sooner than we might think.

I am starting to believe that Kishi is putting the final nail to the coffin for SS because of the latest developments. I feel like Kishi is trying to make NS a vocal point of the story, especially since Obito is now the villain of this arc. Something is fishy, if you ask me.

[redragon88]

A question for our Japanese speakers:

 

To any of you who might frequent the japanese forums, do you know what is the overall opinion regarding Sakura's confession?

 

Do they think she lied about everything, or maybe think she was being somewhat honest with her love for Naruto but not with her feelings for Sasuke? Are they as divided as the english fandom or maybe they have a united conclusion of it?

 

I'm just curious if maybe the original intended readers might view it from a different perspective.

[HauntedCake]

So is there a tuesday chapter this week?

[sushi.]

Sakura must love Sasuke because it's logic since she had a crush on him in part 1 and also for the sake of NH ever having a chance in becoming canon. Though I agree to feel sorry for the SS fan base that support the pairing not because they support NH too. So much negative development Kishi has done to the pairing since the beginning it's not funny. I have a feeling Kishi might make his move to put the final stake on the pairing's coffin sooner than we might think.

When a Naruto character is in love it usually lasts for at least a couple of decades, but I think SS is an exception.

 

Kishimoto leaves hints/loose moments up for interpretation here and there, just to answer it later. I believe we'll get the answer of 540 soon, because while her expression were clear, we haven't heard what is really on Sakura's mind for a while.

 

Everytime Kishi brings up something for SS, it's bad and it's still only on Sakura's side. It must lead to something, a conclusion.

So is there a tuesday chapter this week?

Yes.

[Phantom_999]

Hey guys! I found this charming little site somewhere. 

 

http://narutocouple....to_Couples_Wiki

 

they are seemingly neutral and are agaisnt pairing bashing and have crack pairings but no evidence. They bring up some good point  though.  anyways I though it'd be good debating material. And again they also have crack pairings any member may fancy so yeah they have discussions too so feel free. 

Edited by Phantom_999, 07 July 2013 - 10:43 PM.

[arian_rad]

Sakura must love Sasuke because it's logic since she had a crush on him in part 1 and also for the sake of NH ever having a chance in becoming canon. Though I agree to feel sorry for the SS fan base that support the pairing not because they support NH too. So much negative development Kishi has done to the pairing since the beginning it's not funny. I have a feeling Kishi might make his move to put the final stake on the pairing's coffin sooner than we might think.

I have guessed that sasusaku will have a horrible end. More horrible than people expect it to be. All this negative development cannot lead to anything good between the two. It has driven them further apart than before they were teammates. It will be a harsh and quick ending for that fandom. I somehow feel bad for them because of it though. Sakura's final resolution will be hard for them to hear.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I have guessed that sasusaku will have a horrible end. More horrible than people expect it to be. All this negative development cannot lead to anything good between the two. It has driven them further apart than before they were teammates. It will be a harsh and quick ending for that fandom. I somehow feel bad for them because of it though. Sakura's final resolution will be hard for them to hear.

It wouldn't be the first though. The movie had a horrible ending for SS, so is it possible for SS? I don't know but at the very least I think she can deal with him as a good friend. That's it. That false smile sure can take it in many ways, regardless that I will keep my original intention.

[arian_rad]

It wouldn't be the first though. The movie had a horrible ending for SS, so is it possible for SS? I don't know but at the very least I think she can deal with him as a good friend. That's it. That false smile sure can take it in many ways, regardless that I will keep my original intention.

Everyone has their opinions about how it will end. Personally I think it will be a more harsh ending than the fandom expects. Again, it doesn't have to create fuel between sakura and sasuke. just thinking that what sakura might end up saying would be the harsh part of it.

[LadyGT]

Hey guys I was having a conversation with the author of a Naruto/Obito parallel pic on DA recently and I was asking him few explanation about the meaning of the comparison when someone else decided to butt in and brought up, maybe, one of the most ridiculous arguments I have ever heard since I joined this fandom.

This person said that since we always bring up the fact that the 'new generation will surpass the old one", Naruto will give up his dream to be with Sakura and let her go, unlike Obito who became obsessed with his unrequited love for Rin and became evil.( of course all of this to favor Hinata's feelings.)

Now, aside from the fact that that statement has lots of flaws and didn't really get the reasons Obito turned out that way, I was wondering your opinion about this.

I'm starting to think that most of the people out there don't read the same manga I do.

[arian_rad]

Hey guys I was having a conversation with the author of a Naruto/Obito parallel pic on DA recently and I was asking him few explanation about the meaning of the comparison when someone else decided to butt in and brought up, maybe, one of the most ridiculous arguments I have ever heard since I joined this fandom.

This person said that since we always bring up the fact that the 'new generation will surpass the old one", Naruto will give up his dream to be with Sakura and let her go, unlike Obito who became obsessed with his unrequited love for Rin and became evil.( of course all of this to favor Hinata's feelings.)

Now, aside from the fact that that statement has lots of flaws and didn't really get the reasons Obito turned out that way, I was wondering your opinion about this.

I'm starting to think that most of the people out there don't read the same manga I do.

The while idea of that makes naruhina look bad. So naruto has to let go of his first love because he couldn't do it so naruhina can happen? So hinata would be naruto's second choice? Isn't that bad? Obito turned that way not only because of rin but because of the horrible system in the ninja world. He wanted to change the world in his own way much like sasuke is trying to now. The reason rin comes up so much is because she is the main reason that he pushes himself so hard to fill this plan out. He wants Rin's death to be redeemed because it is a major cause of him being in this state. However obito failed to protect Rin while Naruto never did. Naruto rescued sakura ( during chunnin exam arc ) while obito failed. So it only makes sense that naruto also goes to fulfill another thing obito seemed to fail in which is confessing to sakura. I don't even know how they bring hinata into everything.