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[Syn11]

Her love isn't romantic. How can it be after Kakashi just confirmed she has no interest in being with him?

Forget it. People who think that Sakura is still lovey-dovey about Sasuke will doubt her even if Kishimoto showed us R-rated NS.

Sakura's love can be only romantic because she's a girl. Steel concrete logic!

[Gojira]

Forget it. People who think that Sakura is still lovey-dovey about Sasuke will doubt her even if Kishimoto showed us R-rated NS.

Sakura's love can be only romantic because she's a girl. Steel concrete logic!

Kind of makes you wonder how bad Avatar's pairing wars would be if they stretched them out like this

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Pepsi, you can still love someone and not want to be with them. Happens all the time.

[Gojira]

Pepsi, you can still love someone and not want to be with them. Happens all the time.

That doesn't make it romantic love. if you love someone, but have no interest in being with them, then how is that love romantic?

[Syn11]

Kind of makes you wonder how bad Avatar's pairing wars would be if they stretched them out like this

At least, Zuko and Katara had some form of hate chemistry, Sasuke and Sakura's interaction always looked forced to me.

 

 

Pepsi, you can still love someone and not want to be with them. Happens all the time.

When you are content with that special person as just a friend (who you want to support), it is mostly platonic selfless love. Romantic love has to be more selfish than that. A woman can dream all she wants, but at the end of the day she earns for a real touch. 

Edited by Syn11, 30 September 2014 - 06:41 PM.

[Gojira]

At least, Zuko and Katara had some form of hate chemistry, Sasuke and Sakura's interaction always looked forced to me.

 

I would've actually prefer it so much if Sakrua threatened Sasuke like Katara did with Zuko.

[Nic]

At least, Zuko and Katara had some form of hate chemistry, Sasuke and Sakura's interaction always looked forced to me.

 

 

When you are content with that special person as just a friend (who you want to support), it is mostly platonic selfless love. Romantic love has to be more selfish than that. A woman can dream all she wants, but at the end of the day she earns for a real touch. 

Not really forced, just always negative.  Katara and Zuko at least had some positive interactions but then again those shipping wars were dumb in itself as well since it was clear from the first two episodes that Aang and Katara would end up together. 

[ns.Believe.It]

At least, Zuko and Katara had some form of hate chemistry, Sasuke and Sakura's interaction always looked forced to me.

And terrible and insensitive and cruel and downgrading on Sakura.

[Syn11]

Not really forced, just always negative.  Katara and Zuko at least had some positive interactions but then again those shipping wars were dumb in itself as well since it was clear from the first two episodes that Aang and Katara would end up together. 

Negative interaction may have its own appeal, but Sakura and Sasuke's moments lacked that. She was always the one to come to him, so it felt forced most of the times.

 

 

I would've actually prefer it so much if Sakrua threatened Sasuke like Katara did with Zuko.

Sakura is not Katara while Sasuke is not Zuko. And I doubt that Sasuke can be really intimidated by any woman at this point of manga... be it a mere kunoichi or Kaguya. Actually, he wouldn't have reacted even the way he did (when she pleaded) if Sakura had tried to threaten him. He'd have ignored her completely. So appealing to his private emotions was a more rational choice.

Edited by Syn11, 30 September 2014 - 06:59 PM.

[Gojira]

Negative interaction may have its own appeal, but Sakura and Sasuke's moments lacked that. She was always the one to come to him, so it felt forced most of the times.

 

 

Sakura is not Katara while Sasuke is not Zuko. And I doubt that Sasuke can be really intimidated by any woman at this point of manga... be it a mere kunoichi or Kaguya. Actually, he wouldn't have reacted even the way he did (when she pleaded) if Sakura had tried to threaten him. He'd have ignored her completely. So appealing to his private emotions was a more rational choice.

Yes I know, Zuko didn't really react to Katara's threats either.

 

He was just kind of like "yeah whatever yadda yadda honor"

[redragon88]

Question guys, so is there a definite way to interpret Sakura's feelings when it comes to this chapter? Or is everything still up for interpretation?

 

I'm fine with whatever it might be since I'm pretty sure NS becomes canon one way or another in the end. but I'm curious as to whether Kishi was vague on purpose or if we simply confused ourselves.

 

@六道仙人

 

What do you think of it?

[Gojira]

Question guys, so is there a definite way to interpret Sakura's feelings when it comes to this chapter? Or is everything still up for interpretation?

 

I'm fine with whatever it might be since I'm pretty sure NS becomes canon one way or another in the end. but I'm curious as to whether Kishi was vague on purpose or if we simply confused ourselves.

 

Sakura loves Sasuke, but she's not in love with him. This I think is Kishi's way of trying to settle that by having Sasuke bring it up in a romantic context but then having Kakashi deny it immediately afterwards. 

[Syn11]

Question guys, so is there a definite way to interpret Sakura's feelings when it comes to this chapter? Or is everything still up for interpretation?

 

I'm fine with whatever it might be since I'm pretty sure NS becomes canon one way or another in the end. but I'm curious as to whether Kishi was vague on purpose or if we simply confused ourselves.

 

@六道仙人

 

What do you think of it?

I personally think that we're too much paranoid for our own good.

[Gojira]

I personally think that we're too much paranoid for our own good.

Is paranoia ever a good thing?

[Zodd]

Not really forced, just always negative.  Katara and Zuko at least had some positive interactions but then again those shipping wars were dumb in itself as well since it was clear from the first two episodes that Aang and Katara would end up together. 

 

From what I call the shipping in terms of Avatar the Last Airbender was far more dynamic in the minds of people.

 

There was pages upon pages of debates on forums, just as how it is with Naruto.  When finally Aang and Katara got together people's uncertainties magically evaporated and the all stated "I knew it the whole time!"

 

I expect the same to happen with Naruto.  Kishimoto, for a guy that can't write romance, surely has gotten a lot of people in a real twist.  The most hardcore NarutoxSakura fans are even questioning themselves. 

[ultranx]

Wait a minute, So Viz's translation is suddenly the most reliable now? 

 

Before this chapter, I had seen comments here associating Viz's translation with words like 'unreliable', 'biased' and 'unprofessional'. This seemed to be the general opinion up until yesterday. 

 

Now people are accepting Viz just because its version is a little bit on the Pro NS side?

 

Our fandom seems to be just as fickle as NH/SS. Now its all positive again( which is good of course  ) But if there's something slightly threatening NS in the next chapter, I'm pretty sure it will be rage mode here again.  *sighs*

its not fickle. read the mangapanda and manga stream versions then read the viz version, which version makes more sense as a translation and more accurate? answer: the viz one

[Nic]

Question guys, so is there a definite way to interpret Sakura's feelings when it comes to this chapter? Or is everything still up for interpretation?

 

I'm fine with whatever it might be since I'm pretty sure NS becomes canon one way or another in the end. but I'm curious as to whether Kishi was vague on purpose or if we simply confused ourselves.

 

@六道仙人

 

What do you think of it?

I love you but i don't/not trying/want to be with you sums up the chapter.  You make out whatever you want out of that.  It's really left up to interpretation. 

My personal positive take though is that Sakura's feelings in part one were never in question, now they are deliberately being shown as ambiguous. 

Edited by Nic, 30 September 2014 - 07:21 PM.

[ultranx]

No, we are not acepting VIZ because is "pro-narusaku" or something. We are "acepting" VIZ because, for the first time, it match with unbiased people that translated it too.

not the first *looks at 631*

[Gojira]

not the first *looks at 631*

To be fair they did make it not only sound kind of like Minato wasn't giving NS his blessing but he was politely asking her to not be abusive to his son.

[Syn11]

Ok. I'll provide a clear example for those who are still confused.

 

Let us suppose that your two close friends are in a feud for some serious reason. What will you do if you can't influence them physically? Will you simply stay on the sidelines and cheer for one of them disregarding the other? Are you sure? Or will you feel distraught over their inevitable fight and try to stop it because both of them (those two who mean so much to you) may get hurt? Let's choose the second option for now. Will you address the initiator or the other party? It is logical to try and sway the initiator, isn't it? Because the other friend won't change his or her mind if the fisrt one doesn't. Back to the initiator. How can you influence him/her if you have neither power, nor any logical reasoning that might work? You plea with him/her! You try to reach his/her heart deeply by using the notion that this fight is killing you as well... and if he/she cares about you, he/she will change the decision. So there is nothing... I repeat, nothing wrong about Sakura's act. Kakashi didn't even try, but Sakura had to try because her heart was being ripped just by the mere thought. She endured so much only to lose her precious people in the end.That is why romance is not the topic of Sakura's speech. By the way, she could have resorted to something more drastical and threaten to kill herself. But we're speaking about manga for teens, so Kishimoto can't actually use this kind of move.   

Edited by Syn11, 30 September 2014 - 07:39 PM.