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#3441 HalfDemonInuyasha

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 03:48 PM

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It's more likely that kishi have no idea on what he write or it just exaggeration just like most ninja stuff.

1. But you still need it to do jyuken because this is not some Chinese pressure point that has similiarity with tenketsu and kishi use it at the end of manga.

2. How could Kyubi is not naruto arsenal?
Kyubi is and always be naruto arsenal.
Just because it has sentient or make naruto super strong doesn't mean it's not his own weapon.
 

1.) A skilled medic who learns the move set could most likely do it as well as they more than likely would have to know where the tenketsu are themselves for certain medical procedures. It still would not be as effective as a Hyuga with the Byakugan allowing them to always see the tenketsu precisely, but it could still be doable. The Taijutsu style itself was built around the Byakugan's strengths. It is not biologically inherit to the Byakugan itself, only its own built-in abilities are. As far as we know, there is no Taijutsu that is bloodline-related. Kekkei Genkai are usually some sort of special Ninjutsu-based ability unique to a bloodline, and then any Taijutsu-based fighting styles are built around that ability.

2.) So now we just ignore the fact that Kurama is his own being with his own will and his own power and see him as nothing more than just a weapon for Naruto or any other Jinchuriki to use at his convenience? That's exactly the type of thinking that made Kurama despise humanity to begin with and made him who we were introduced to. It was only when Kurama willingly worked together with Naruto that Naruto became as strong as he was, just like how it was Bee alone being able use Gyuki's power, but Gyuki allowing Bee to use his power. At best, without Kurama's cooperation, Naruto only had a very watered down version of the cloak.

 

 

 

 

I've always had issues with how weak Naruto is after training under Jiraiya for 2+ years. All he learned was how to make a bigger Rasengan, channel a couple tails worth of Kurama's chakra and summon Shadow Clones in various places (not just around him), and basic genjutsu defense. It would have been nice if Naruto had learned some actual jutsus, or even learned how to create a Rasengan using only one hand. That at least would have shown some more development in his ninja growth. The key to the Rasengan is that fact that it can be created and used in one motion, but Naruto using Shadow Clones to help limits its effectiveness. The fact that Naruto was so limited when he returned showed to me that Jiraiya wasn't a very good teacher, nor was Kakashi (as well as how badly Kishi thought things through regarding Naruto's growth as a ninja).

Yeah, as Bryon can attest to, that's another one of my biggest irks about part two and is also what makes Naruto's (handed-out) power-ups that much more ridiculously hax. Even Sasuke at least had to work his butt off to become as strong as he was when he and Team Seven first encounter each other again, and the results show just how huge a difference there was because of it where, if it had been he and Naruto facing off alone again, Naruto would have been killed pretty much instantly. And as Sasuke showed, even Kurama hax wouldn't work because he already knew how to use the Sharingan to suppress Kurama's chakra, so Naruto's big crutch is eliminated before the fight even begins.

It's also why I say that Naruto has not yet truly mastered the Rasengan - he still needs to use such shortcuts to use it. For me, it's not mastered until Naruto can use the Rasenshuriken without Kage Bunshin, Sage Mode, or Kurama chakra. Heck, the only reason the half-finished Rasenshuriken worked against Kakuzu was because of Kishi giving him the cliche "moment of stupidity" where, even though he could instantly deduce the danger of being hit by it and to avoid/disrupt it at all costs (and Naruto was fighting alone as opposed to two teams not being able to do anything previously), he still falls for such a basic trick like Henge. You'd think, with Akatsuki's whole Biju/Jinchuriki hunting goal, and with how they were watched for years, that would all be briefed on the fighting styles of each one and, obviously, Naruto's fighting habits have not deviated much, if at all, from part one.


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Posted 20 August 2015 - 04:10 PM

How much money, has this movie made?


It went down to fifth place but brought in 267 yen

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 05:38 PM

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1. Gentle fist is a style specific for the hyuga. No other character beside the hyuga capable to do that, not even battle medic like rin, shizune, kabuto, tsunade, or sakura.

2. Kurama has it's own will and power, doesn't change the fact that he's naruto source of power as naruto is a jinchuriki. Thus he becoming naruto own arsenal.

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 07:38 PM

Anyone see the latest episode?

sigh give me a minute.

 

Skimmed through it.

 

It from when sakura is with obito about to tab his eye to madara activating his eye to start the moon plan.

 

The fact they are doing this instead of more filler to pad out madara's time means either they can't do that because the anime sinking like a stone or they are waiting for the dream worlds.


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Posted 20 August 2015 - 07:45 PM

The hyuga fighting style is like kakashi with the chidori. Others could in theory use it or copy it but it only at it's full potential when used with those eye. So bolt could have copied his mom's style or mimicked it but since apparently hinata is surprised that he is using it say she felt no point in teaching him it.

 

As for kurama vs. tech: Naruto out right band it because the creator said that no one will have to train anymore, While with Naruto and the other containers are allowed to use their tail beast's powers is it apart of them, they have to learn how to control the beasts power, and that what they were made to do.Think about if they weren't allowed to then gaara would have never been allowed to use his sand power because everyone thought it was the one tail's power. They are suppose to be able to control their beast power and what better way to show how well their containers  are doing with that then at the chunin exams. 


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Posted 20 August 2015 - 08:04 PM

 

 

 

Yeah, as Bryon can attest to, that's another one of my biggest irks about part two and is also what makes Naruto's (handed-out) power-ups that much more ridiculously hax. Even Sasuke at least had to work his butt off to become as strong as he was when he and Team Seven first encounter each other again, and the results show just how huge a difference there was because of it where, if it had been he and Naruto facing off alone again, Naruto would have been killed pretty much instantly. And as Sasuke showed, even Kurama hax wouldn't work because he already knew how to use the Sharingan to suppress Kurama's chakra, so Naruto's big crutch is eliminated before the fight even begins.

It's also why I say that Naruto has not yet truly mastered the Rasengan - he still needs to use such shortcuts to use it. For me, it's not mastered until Naruto can use the Rasenshuriken without Kage Bunshin, Sage Mode, or Kurama chakra. Heck, the only reason the half-finished Rasenshuriken worked against Kakuzu was because of Kishi giving him the cliche "moment of stupidity" where, even though he could instantly deduce the danger of being hit by it and to avoid/disrupt it at all costs (and Naruto was fighting alone as opposed to two teams not being able to do anything previously), he still falls for such a basic trick like Henge. You'd think, with Akatsuki's whole Biju/Jinchuriki hunting goal, and with how they were watched for years, that would all be briefed on the fighting styles of each one and, obviously, Naruto's fighting habits have not deviated much, if at all, from part one.

 

I kinda get your point about Kurama ( I did want Naruto to get stronger and not relying so much on the fox) and the lack of progression during his trainign trip with Jiraya

 

But the Sage mode? I don't see a problem, it's something he had to rain to achieve it so honestly I don't see the problem, if anything I thought it was kinda forgotten and brushed off after Naruto learned to control the Kyuubi


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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:15 PM

http://kotaku.com/wh...haps-1725296543

Looks like kishi is doing sci fi for his next manga

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:15 PM

Do you guys remember that sketch with Neji in The Last or after it? If so was that real or fan made?


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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:21 PM

sigh give me a minute.
 
Skimmed through it.
 
It from when sakura is with obito about to tab his eye to madara activating his eye to start the moon plan.
 
The fact they are doing this instead of more filler to pad out madara's time means either they can't do that because the anime sinking like a stone or they are waiting for the dream worlds.

Oh God, I hope they don't add onto Hinata's IT dream. Also, I hope hey don't make Naruto call out her name, when everyone is getting caught by the tree roots. Lord knows, they'll do anything to make her more prominent than she is, even if it hurts Naruto's character.



The hyuga fighting style is like kakashi with the chidori. Others could in theory use it or copy it but it only at it's full potential when used with those eye. So bolt could have copied his mom's style or mimicked it but since apparently hinata is surprised that he is using it say she felt no point in teaching him it.
 
As for kurama vs. tech: Naruto out right band it because the creator said that no one will have to train anymore, While with Naruto and the other containers are allowed to use their tail beast's powers is it apart of them, they have to learn how to control the beasts power, and that what they were made to do.Think about if they weren't allowed to then gaara would have never been allowed to use his sand power because everyone thought it was the one tail's power. They are suppose to be able to control their beast power and what better way to show how well their containers  are doing with that then at the chunin exams.


Wait, so Hinata didn't teach Boruto any Hyuuga techniques?

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:21 PM

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1. Gentle fist is a style specific for the hyuga. No other character beside the hyuga capable to do that, not even battle medic like rin, shizune, kabuto, tsunade, or sakura.

2. Kurama has it's own will and power, doesn't change the fact that he's naruto source of power as naruto is a jinchuriki. Thus he becoming naruto own arsenal.

Are you purposely just trying to ignore everything I'm saying? Seriously, it's like no matter how much I try to explain in any sort of detail, you just ignore it all and repeat the same thing again.

You don't see other shinobi using it because it's kept highly secret by the Main Family. If it was something completely exclusive solely to the Byakugan, and even them have seals in place to lock it away to prevent capture by others (it's not even said in any great detail how Kiri got it to give it to Ao), why keep the style a secret? It shouldn't matter if others know the Taijutsu or not if you "must" have the Byakugan just to perform the Taijutsu style and thus can't copy it at all.

Just like the Uchiha's Taijutsu-based fighting style is not something exclusive to the Sharingan specifically. Only the actual abilities that come from the Sharingan (perceived slow-motion, seeing chakra flow, Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, Susano'o, Izanagi, Izanami, etc.)are exclusive to the Sharingan while the Taijutsu fighting style was built around it, just like the Jyuken was done based around the abilities and strengths of the Byakugan.
 

 

 

I kinda get your point about Kurama ( I did want Naruto to get stronger and not relying so much on the fox) and the lack of progression during his trainign trip with Jiraya

 

But the Sage mode? I don't see a problem, it's something he had to rain to achieve it so honestly I don't see the problem, if anything I thought it was kinda forgotten and brushed off after Naruto learned to control the Kyuubi

It's much more how stupidly fast Naruto "masters" it that gets to me. Even Jiraiya, over years of training, could only get the imperfect form we saw with him, and also still needed Fukasaku and Shima attached to him, yet Naruto far surpasses him in what was most likely barely a month, if not less, and even ditching it before he was finished to face Pein? If the Summoning realm acted like the Hyperbolic Time Chamber of DBZ and the training was far more hellish in one or more ways, I could see it, but the way it was presented? Eh...not really...now if Naruto started the training shortly after leaving with Jiraiya and mastered it (along with other things) over the 2 1/2 years in-between part one and two, that would have been much better, IMO. Again, I blame it on the fact that Kishi just didn't see fit to actually improve Naruto much when part two came along while making almost everyone else way stronger compared to part one, and the enemies being far stronger than that.

Heck, thinking about it now, it makes me wonder if that was also something Kishi took from DBZ, considering it involved a lot of sitting around (meditating or not) and an enemy starts attacking in the middle...sounds a lot like Gohan getting all of his hidden power unlocked by the Elder Kai, which took, IIRC, something like fifteen hours straight of sitting still, and magic, to do and, in the meantime, Buu was attacking, and by the time Gohan is finished and arrives to face him, most of his friends and family are now dead.


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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:24 PM

Do you guys remember that sketch with Neji in The Last or after it? If so was that real or fan made?


It was fake

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:26 PM

http://kotaku.com/wh...haps-1725296543
Looks like kishi is doing sci fi for his next manga


More freedom, eh? He just doesn't want to go through his editors dictating his work again.

Do you guys remember that sketch with Neji in The Last or after it? If so was that real or fan made?


I believe it was fake.( especially because he was drawn in his part two outfit, with only his face looking older.)

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:35 PM

http://janifuu.tumbl...ve-you-narusaku I found this on Tumblr. And those are good reasons on why that person loves NaruSaku. 


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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:37 PM

Better than Naruto?

Not hard to do. Capture the popularity, well, that could be hard. Looks like he may not do weekly anymore. Also, no Seinen, another Shounen. Let's hope he's more creative than before. By now, he should know what to do. Right?

On second thought, just please get a partner for a writer. You'll do fine, I promise.

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:41 PM

http://kotaku.com/wh...haps-1725296543

Looks like kishi is doing sci fi for his next manga

I bet there's gonna be another version of love triangle, handsome bad boy like sauce, and big racks like hime sama.


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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:44 PM

He better know what he's doing. A lot of mangaka got a great first one only to fall for the second one.

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:49 PM

Non weekly might be better for him. His writing could slighty improve if he isn't limited to one week

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:51 PM

It was fake

 


I believe it was fake.( especially because he was drawn in his part two outfit, with only his face looking older.)

I see, thanks.

 

Better than Naruto?

Not hard to do. Capture the popularity, well, that could be hard. Looks like he may not do weekly anymore. Also, no Seinen, another Shounen. Let's hope he's more creative than before. By now, he should know what to do. Right?

On second thought, just please get a partner for a writer. You'll do fine, I promise.

He's already captured the popularity because of Naruto. All people have to do is hear that's written by him and it's already popular.

Not sure if this is true or not but Rowling some time ago wrote another book under a different name which pretty much no one bought but as soon as people found out that the writer was her, it sold like crazy. Just because of her name.

I've heard about this but I haven't actually verified it.


Edited by Nostradamus, 20 August 2015 - 10:52 PM.

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These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:51 PM

Non weekly might be better for him. His writing could slighty improve if he isn't limited to one week

He had a lot of time for Gaiden. I don't know. Maybe the world of Naruto is completely messy that it might be the case, but I am still skeptical. His writing never really got improved. I don't know if he will fall into the category of one-trick pony, but we'll see. Many times, first work is your best work.

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:53 PM

 
I see, thanks.
 
He's already captured the popularity because of Naruto. All people have to do is hear that's written by him and it's already popular.
Not sure if this is true or not but Rowling some time ago wrote another book under a different name which pretty much no one bought but as soon as people found out that the writer was her, it sold like crazy. Just because of her name.
I've heard about this but I haven't actually verified it.

No, I mean the work, not him. His work won't be the same caliber. Time has changed and things are not going to be on his side. Naruto came in the right time.




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