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Posted 30 September 2014 - 08:32 AM

Guys can someone plz give me a summary.. about chapter 693?

About what the RAW's said exactly?

 

im studying so. I dont have time to look at 174 pages xD


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 09:23 AM

Guys can someone plz give me a summary.. about chapter 693?

About what the RAW's said exactly?

 

im studying so. I dont have time to look at 174 pages xD

Here-  raws


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 09:41 AM

Yeah, I know, but I don't want to spend every chapter from now on trying to pick and choose what version is the most accurate every single week. MP, for what it is worth, seems the closest to what the original always was. They have a higher success rate of getting the real meaning down. Not just with this chapter alone. That's what I am trying to say.

Yeah Viz CAN get it right, but from what I have seen, it is like a 50/50 shot. They are either right on the money or not even close.

Mangastream has always been the most biased in my opinion and have the lowest success rate out of the three. I am not sure about the others (mangabee, etc.) because I cannot view the others for some reason.

Yes I don't want to do that either but the thing is Kishimoto is making us with creating confusing dialogues to many if you ask me and he said he loves doing that to the readers (SOB :glare: ) even though the context of this chapter was family , brotherly love  this is the talk between Hagoromo and Kakashi not kittening romance but whatever  . But its true the most important thing when it comes to translation is to convey the right meaning but at the same time not wonder of from the real scrip  and yes in this case I would say MP has been right most of the time 80% which would make them most reliable  , MS is based as kitten since always and Viz is a loose cannon like you say its 50/50 they are either drunk or sober .

 

I just say this if Kishi goes toward NS then he better stop kittening around  make that OVA 2011 and show Sakura's feelings for Naruto as the most intense kitten ever  bc as it is like this it won't look very convincing  with making everyone's feelings for Sasuke as the most intense kitten ever and always at the center   :facepalm: .

Kishimotot just fails with the concept of Love and Hate 


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 09:50 AM

Guys just accept that Sakura still loves Sasuke (I wish there was a smiley with a guy shooting himself, so I can put it here). And Kishi did what he did because there's either going to be a part 3 where this gets resolved or the movie resolves it.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 09:52 AM

I thought genjutsu didn't work on jinchuriki who has controlled their tailed beast? Or was that case specifically only for Bee?


Yeah that's Definetly the case (Jinchurriki breaking out of genjutsu through tailed beast cooperation) but knowing naruto he would want to sit through the genjutsu and know a little more of what's going inside Sasuke's head. It's a dangerous move to let yourself be taken by a genjutsu but he'll be cautious enough to know if Sasuke tries to get a sneak attack he'll break out of the genjutsu (with tailed beasts help) and counterattack just before he strikes.

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Posted 30 September 2014 - 09:58 AM

 

she might not intend to pursue a romantic reliationship with him but it does mean that her love for Sasuke is really selfless just like Naruto's love for Sakura. which means her love for him is very real unfortunately.... she wants sasuke to be happy

 

 

basically i cant see her move on at all :/ whether she gets with him or not.

many of the members answered this .but imo . sakuras feelings for sasuke are like this ( crush and then to like him  until 181 it stopped at like( and it still till now cause its so negative and hanging like sasuke said in this chapter) . and after all the negative moments sakura  should  hate sasuke or  care about him but stop liking him in a romantic way ) and that make sense to me. but if ss had a positvie moments after 181( if sasuke was nicer and no killing attempts ) .i would  accept/agree that her love  turned to selfless romantic way  but now its a love in a selfless friendly way . 

 

Err, what? She's still confessing while weeping and begging to him, mirroring her Part 1 self to a T. Nothing is going to make this chapter "not suck anymore" for Sakura.

 

after the raw and viz .i think its kinda clear that it wasnt a confession at all . . i actually liked sakura more than ever after yesterday .cause she became selfless and more caring like naruto .  sakuras expression  kakashis words (kishis) and   sasukes questions ( us the audience )  ) makes it clear its not a confession .  . but anything can happen (kishi) -_- . so lets wait  :smile:

Wait a minute, So Viz's translation is suddenly the most reliable now?  :wot:

 

Before this chapter, I had seen comments here associating Viz's translation with words like 'unreliable', 'biased' and 'unprofessional'. This seemed to be the general opinion up until yesterday. 

 

Now people are accepting Viz just because its version is a little bit on the Pro NS side?

 

Our fandom seems to be just as fickle as NH/SS. Now its all positive again( which is good of course :D ) But if there's something slightly threatening NS in the next chapter, I'm pretty sure it will be rage mode here again.  *sighs*

lol. i understand your point.  but there mistakes were a long time ago and they seem to correct them . and their translation became better  .we have to give them credit. :hehehe: . but that doesnt mean that they are the best , from now on . like james said  mp guys are the more accurate on the long run . een though i trust the raw with the translation of our friends here more . 

 


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 10:10 AM

Guys just accept that Sakura still loves Sasuke (I wish there was a smiley with a guy shooting himself, so I can put it here). And Kishi did what he did because there's either going to be a part 3 where this gets resolved or the movie resolves it.

Oh I've accepted this. What I can't accept is how badly it affects Sakura.

 

I usually just go with the flow of the story. But this chapter was turbulent so it was harder than usual to go with the flow  :hehehe:


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 10:14 AM

Here-  raws

thank you!


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 10:55 AM

The reliable thing to do is to stick to the raws. :zaru:



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Posted 30 September 2014 - 11:12 AM

Oh I've accepted this. What I can't accept is how badly it affects Sakura.

 

I usually just go with the flow of the story. But this chapter was turbulent so it was harder than usual to go with the flow  :hehehe:

She had it coming. To still have feelings for a guy that made it absolutely clear he doesn't give a f about her and tried to kill her multiple times.

She's the same as Naruto, morons. In the end both of them deserve each other. :D

I've learned a long time ago to just go with the flow but that doesn't mean I'm not pissed about what's happening.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 11:36 AM

Guys just accept that Sakura still loves Sasuke (I wish there was a smiley with a guy shooting himself, so I can put it here). And Kishi did what he did because there's either going to be a part 3 where this gets resolved or the movie resolves it.

I already accepted it. My stance on her feelings won't change until I actually hear it from Sakura herself that she's completely over Sasuke. Once that happens she won't allow Sasuke to walk all over here like some damn welcome mat. 


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 11:57 AM

I already accepted it. My stance on her feelings won't change until I actually hear it from Sakura herself that she's completely over Sasuke. Once that happens she won't allow Sasuke to walk all over here like some damn welcome mat. 

That would be an amazing day. Hope Kishi delivers.

 

 

Guys I've jumped ship. :D

Check my signature. Even J-Man supports it. :thumb: :D


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 11:59 AM

That would be an amazing day. Hope Kishi delivers.

 

 

Guys I've jumped ship. :D

Check my signature. Even J-Man supports it. :thumb: :D

is that female sasuke in your sig?


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 12:01 PM

is that female sasuke in your sig?

:lol:  It's Ten-Ten.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 12:03 PM

:lol:  It's Ten-Ten.

ohh. lol I couldn't see the rice balls on her head. good choice :)


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 12:15 PM

I have jumped too honestly... Here my real OTP

 

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Posted 30 September 2014 - 12:19 PM

This chapter has had many drastic effects on people's minds XD

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Posted 30 September 2014 - 12:30 PM

This chapter has had many drastic effects on people's minds XD



most being negative :hm:


Though I didn't find anything negative in the chapter

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Posted 30 September 2014 - 12:45 PM

SS seems to have come up with some new technical argument.Raws are saying "Right now Sakura's wish isnt to be yours" and they are saying that after Sasuke is "saved" she will wish to be his because of that "now" word. LOL



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Posted 30 September 2014 - 12:48 PM

That would be an amazing day. Hope Kishi delivers.

 

 

Guys I've jumped ship. :D

Check my signature. Even J-Man supports it. :thumb: :D

Lol.You made a perfect decision.And J-man  :cry:


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