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#3421 Kakashi-Sensei

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 02:16 PM

I hope it is true but i don't think that Kishi would make NaruSaku canon as soon as chapter 645...


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 02:37 PM

I hope it is true but i don't think that Kishi would make NaruSaku canon as soon as chapter 645...

 

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 02:52 PM

You know what's funny about this...the hypocrisy after it happened. Like you said, the Hinata fans believe she was more like Kushina then Sakura was, after the reveal...BAM!!! The NaruHina fans then decided to read too much in Tsunade's words that Naruto was more like his mother then his father, thus they believe Hinata is more like Minato. Now the claim against NaruSaku is Kushina X Kushina, which is utter crap but hilarious to read about XD

It wouldn't have even mattered in the long run considering it still wouldn't make Sakura being like Kushina void. She said find a girl like her. Not a guy. And regardless of that, pulling certain traits from her is completely understandable. He has her face, and his fathers hair. Those are just physical. Anyway, meh, let the haters continue to deny moments like their not even in existence. It'll only make NS becoming canon a bit more painful for them in the long run.  :yes:



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 02:57 PM

what exactly is this 645 rumor, I'm curious even if it's fake lol



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 03:51 PM

what exactly is this 645 rumor, I'm curious even if it's fake lol


Just some guy on a YouTube video saying kishi will end this and make narusaku cannon by 645. It is obviously a rumor but what store things up about it was how sure he sounded in the comments. But it's a rumor nonetheless.

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 04:03 PM

New topic discussion 

 

How do you guys feel when popular narusaku artist gets comments thats forcing the person replace the character that they don't like into something they like? or worse its used as a meme to go aganist the ns ship? The popular artist might not care , but its reason why i refuse to draw anything naruto pairing related in a blog or art site you will get judged harshly for not supporting a popular pairing/character. Its something i don't want to deal with every day.  -_-

 

Yesterday i got headache when looking at one of the popular ns artist on deviant art thats why i wanted to ask.  :smile:

Let me respond with philosophy.

 

When people begin to understand that their ideals are unlikely they resort to persecution to make up for their doubts and fears. If a person is truly believes they are correct they will be contempt with their choice and act more passively. Aggression comes from doubt and fear.

 

I believe deep down that these flamers know that they are losing, and so they have no other form of resistance left except denial and insult.

 

That leads me to my own question.

I always believed that because of our own bias we looked the exact same to the NH fandom as they look to us, but is it possible that we really are the more rational ship and that the NH fandom's vocal minority acts the way it does because of fear?

 

Then again, the question could also be asked as to why this topic has any importance. The majority of the people on this forum are like minded when it comes to NS so all that can come of this question is validation of NS through insult to NH. But should that possibility stop us from analyzing the behavior of each shipping

 

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 04:41 PM

I don't believe 645 is when NS will be canon, more so I hope it isn't. GASP!....If 645 does become canon it would mean Kishi is tying up all loose ends before the final fights, which i hope is not the case because I personally would like NS to play heavy role in the final moments. 

 

Also while still unlikley if NS becomes canon at 645 Naruto's chances at dying become slightly enhanced.



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 04:51 PM

I don't believe 645 is when NS will be canon, more so I hope it isn't. GASP!....If 645 does become canon it would mean Kishi is tying up all loose ends before the final fights, which i hope is not the case because I personally would like NS to play heavy role in the final moments. 

 

Also while still unlikley if NS becomes canon at 645 Naruto's chances at dying become slightly enhanced.

Even though I personally don't see it happening at 645 given how things haven't necessarily been resolved yet between Sakura her feelings for Sasuke, I wouldn't mind some actual closure to her feelings for Sasuke happening by then but right now, it's not looking too likely since they'll probably still be fighting Juubito at that time. 



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:13 PM

Even though I personally don't see it happening at 645 given how things haven't necessarily been resolved yet between Sakura her feelings for Sasuke, I wouldn't mind some actual closure to her feelings for Sasuke happening by then but right now, it's not looking too likely since they'll probably still be fighting Juubito at that time. 


That's exactly what i said earlier! I said I don't see 645 if it were pairing wise would make narusaku cannon. I saw it as a chapter that could end sasusaku for good. Doesn't seem like a bad time for kishi to end sasusaku with all the horrible development he has been giving it between those two.

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 06:21 PM

That's exactly what i said earlier! I said I don't see 645 if it were pairing wise would make narusaku cannon. I saw it as a chapter that could end sasusaku for good. Doesn't seem like a bad time for kishi to end sasusaku with all the horrible development he has been giving it between those two.

 

Tell me about it he ended NH in one chapter just like that. I do agree with some about this volume been the one that will end SS with the way things are going. But I don't see NS becoming canon in 645. 


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 06:25 PM

Let me respond with philosophy.

 

When people begin to understand that their ideals are unlikely they resort to persecution to make up for their doubts and fears. If a person is truly believes they are correct they will be contempt with their choice and act more passively. Aggression comes from doubt and fear.

 

I believe deep down that these flamers know that they are losing, and so they have no other form of resistance left except denial and insult.

 

That leads me to my own question.

I always believed that because of our own bias we looked the exact same to the NH fandom as they look to us, but is it possible that we really are the more rational ship and that the NH fandom's vocal minority acts the way it does because of fear?

 

Then again, the question could also be asked as to why this topic has any importance. The majority of the people on this forum are like minded when it comes to NS so all that can come of this question is validation of NS through insult to NH. But should that possibility stop us from analyzing the behavior of each shipping

 

Hmm. Insecurity does that to people. I know I'm biased, but all signs are pointing to NS (for me). Naruto's feelings haven't changed and they probably never will, Minato confirmed Kushina and Sakura are similar, and NH/SS are either nearly dead or haven't been mentioned in a few weeks. I guess that since they don't have anything to work with, they have to try to discredit our ship?

 

One of the main reasons I want NS to happen now is just to see how the readers will react. Sure I want it to happen because of the normal reasons too, but seeing the fandom explode would be amusing. We're already gotten a "sneak-peak" as to how they will react (after 631), but instead of admitting defeat they just try to deny it. So when NS actually becomes canon, they won't have anything to deny, and will just have to accept it.  :smug:

 

And it's highly likely that NS/SS views us the same way we view them. The only person who can actually determine who is more "rational" would be a completely neutral reader, and there really aren't many in this fandom. Even if you don't ship anything, how you view certain charcters will point a reader in a certain direction. For example, a Hinata fan would probably support NH because it's what that character wants.

 

But conversations like this often lead to bashing, so it would probably be wise to change topics.  :headscratch:


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 06:46 PM

 

Hmm. Insecurity does that to people. I know I'm biased, but all signs are pointing to NS (for me). Naruto's feelings haven't changed and they probably never will, Minato confirmed Kushina and Sakura are similar, and NH/SS are either nearly dead or haven't been mentioned in a few weeks. I guess that since they don't have anything to work with, they have to try to discredit our ship?

 

One of the main reasons I want NS to happen now is just to see how the readers will react. Sure I want it to happen because of the normal reasons too, but seeing the fandom explode would be amusing. We're already gotten a "sneak-peak" as to how they will react (after 631), but instead of admitting defeat they just try to deny it. So when NS actually becomes canon, they won't have anything to deny, and will just have to accept it.  :smug:

 

And it's highly likely that NS/SS views us the same way we view them. The only person who can actually determine who is more "rational" would be a completely neutral reader, and there really aren't many in this fandom. Even if you don't ship anything, how you view certain charcters will point a reader in a certain direction. For example, a Hinata fan would probably support NH because it's what that character wants.

 

But conversations like this often lead to bashing, so it would probably be wise to change topics.  :headscratch:

 

Yeah i guess that stressed me, but i,ll just try to see the direction the manga goes and constructive critic the manga after it ends.

 

Bolded : Getting worked up by the fandom or manga chapters every week isn't healthy i,ll just try to focus on something else and relax.  :sweat:


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 07:13 PM

It's funny that the comment rumor is in fact just a rumor and nothing take it serious, but it's a bit odd that we are near to that, still in the war, and Rin = Sakura is getting stronger than ever. I find it eery. It's not that it will become canon, but I can see it being a red flag to accept it or be heavily disappointing. More disappointed than that guy from Yu Yu Hakusho episode 4 asking Keiko out (yeah, I just saw it. Hilarious scene). Anyway, we'll see.



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 07:31 PM

It's funny that the comment rumor is in fact just a rumor and nothing take it serious, but it's a bit odd that we are near to that, still in the war, and Rin = Sakura is getting stronger than ever. I find it eery. It's not that it will become canon, but I can see it being a red flag to accept it or be heavily disappointing. More disappointed than that guy from Yu Yu Hakusho episode 4 asking Keiko out (yeah, I just saw it. Hilarious scene). Anyway, we'll see.


To be honest, the only major pairing thing I see happening next volume is the end of SasuSaku. This is the only thing I'm excited for pairing wise. I hope kishi finally drowns this ship, because it just constantly hurts sakura more and more.

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 07:36 PM

To be honest, the only major pairing thing I see happening next volume is the end of SasuSaku. This is the only thing I'm excited for pairing wise. I hope kishi finally drowns this ship, because it just constantly hurts sakura more and more.

Yeah, but that's still a red flag because if there's no SS and NS is gaining momentum, then there's no other place besides non-canon but NS. It's not like Sakura goes back to Sasuke after that big development. It will be entirely pointless. The point is once you make a decision, you shouldn't go back anymore. Still, I do think SS could end in the next volume and the beginning of NS getting near to closure.



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 07:41 PM

Yeah, but that's still a red flag because if there's no SS and NS is gaining momentum, then there's no other place besides non-canon but NS. It's not like Sakura goes back to Sasuke after that big development. It will be entirely pointless. The point is once you make a decision, you shouldn't go back anymore. Still, I do think SS could end in the next volume and the beginning of NS getting near to closure.


Kishi is being obvious as hell about the pairings at this point which is what I love. All I hope is what you said, to give narusaku some actual romantic development before the end of the story. NaruHina is irrelevant again and Narusaku is gaining huge momentum. And sasusaku... Is hanging by a thread. Since the story is nearing the end we should expect kishi to clear all this up faster than usual. I can't wait for all this to happen, I hope kishi doesn't disappoint us and gives us Sakura's final resolution soon.

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 08:02 PM

Kishi is being obvious as hell about the pairings at this point which is what I love. All I hope is what you said, to give narusaku some actual romantic development before the end of the story. NaruHina is irrelevant again and Narusaku is gaining huge momentum. And sasusaku... Is hanging by a thread. Since the story is nearing the end we should expect kishi to clear all this up faster than usual. I can't wait for all this to happen, I hope kishi doesn't disappoint us and gives us Sakura's final resolution soon.

The reason why people are saying that SS could end in the next volume because of 635 with Sakura showing big doubts as well as Sasuke showing no sign of being a team player. When compared to the beginning to the end of the volume, it's no doubt how different she feels with these two. That said now that Naruto with others will be focused by Obito, mainly Naruto since he score to settle with. So yeah, now the only question is how is Sakura going to resolve this.



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 08:42 PM

Could I have a link to that video please? I can't find it.



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:04 PM

The reason why people are saying that SS could end in the next volume because of 635 with Sakura showing big doubts as well as Sasuke showing no sign of being a team player. When compared to the beginning to the end of the volume, it's no doubt how different she feels with these two. That said now that Naruto with others will be focused by Obito, mainly Naruto since he score to settle with. So yeah, now the only question is how is Sakura going to resolve this.


Well hopefully her resolution will end things. She has gone through enough emotional trauma because of Sasuke. Also, the fact again as I stated that she did not seem happy that Sasuke was back plays a huge role in this and chapter 635. If she decides to fight against Sasuke means that she is over him. Her love for him stopped her from doing so in the summit arc. If she succeeds now, it is truly evident that SasuSaku is dead.

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:14 PM

Well hopefully her resolution will end things. She has gone through enough emotional trauma because of Sasuke. Also, the fact again as I stated that she did not seem happy that Sasuke was back plays a huge role in this and chapter 635. If she decides to fight against Sasuke means that she is over him. Her love for him stopped her from doing so in the summit arc. If she succeeds now, it is truly evident that SasuSaku is dead.

Well, SS is hanging on the thread due to Sakura's doubt feelings, so this could be the end. I don't know if there's a chance of never giving up for her if it's not even about that, rather a different story altogether. I don't want to go into detail but also her character is not based on that, rather based on finding the true meaning of living, which now happiness is being tackled on. We'll see.






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