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Posted 05 July 2013 - 01:44 AM
The 645 rumor is nothing but a rumor someone started spreading to stir up the fandom. It was probably done to create commotion or panic to all kinds of fan bases. Honestly I'm not expecting anything but if something does happen pairing wise it won't be any good for NH and SS. After 631 Kishi nailed the hammer on the head and he couldn't be any clearer who is the pairing he is supporting.
He is saying to the fandom" it's going to be NS period, now deal with it."
We know that but it's just the way everything is going right now that the chapter number after 631 seems to resonate some hype around the fandom. And the number of it sounds peculiarly suspicious considering what is happening with sakura/sasuke and sakura/naruto. The next moment could kill sasusaku and it will be big.
Okay I know naruto wiki can be off with stuff, I mean they still try to make Sakura's page whenever naruto come up sound negative. Make hinatas sound like a love story, and narutos page act like sakura is never there.
But I found something that really grinded my gears, this really made me a mad moe. Apparently, the naruto pairings wiki, by god just look at the minakush page, they say stuff that makes you just go, really? Here's what I mean they say it was never confirmed if Kushina hit minato as abuse or comedic relief, they say it was confirmed minato was shy around Kushina (seriously when did this happen, the anime? That does not count) and then they say that kishimoto himself said that naruto takes after Kushina more? Okay by god where is the proof of this? No sources on the page. Anyone clear to inform of this missing info cause all I smell is a bunch of BS, this is a hardly visited wiki too. Not even ns has been updated as of the recent 631 events. God if people actually believe this, that stuff on the front page of all info being canon just wow. No sources on any pages. What do you guys think of this, just dumb stuff among the entire fandom?
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 02:08 AM
Okay I know naruto wiki can be off with stuff, I mean they still try to make Sakura's page whenever naruto come up sound negative. Make hinatas sound like a love story, and narutos page act like sakura is never there.
But I found something that really grinded my gears, this really made me a mad moe. Apparently, the naruto pairings wiki, by god just look at the minakush page, they say stuff that makes you just go, really? Here's what I mean they say it was never confirmed if Kushina hit minato as abuse or comedic relief, they say it was confirmed minato was shy around Kushina (seriously when did this happen, the anime? That does not count) and then they say that kishimoto himself said that naruto takes after Kushina more? Okay by god where is the proof of this? No sources on the page. Anyone clear to inform of this missing info cause all I smell is a bunch of BS, this is a hardly visited wiki too. Not even ns has been updated as of the recent 631 events. God if people actually believe this, that stuff on the front page of all info being canon just wow. No sources on any pages. What do you guys think of this, just dumb stuff among the entire fandom?
Simple, most of the people that run that wiki are naruhina fans. Therefore, their opinion is somewhat biased. However we all know kishi's intentions so I don't know why this would matter. It's not like kishi pays attention to the western fanbase anyways.
Kishik most likely listens to no fanbase, rather just the feedback for the general story and central plot and a few things here and there, but even still for anything that is argued with "Hinata being a parallel to Minato" well, where is it?
Seriously, we have a Sakura-Kushina parallel, so now are we waiting for Minato to somehow just look at Hinata and go, she is like me? Don't know who pulled this out but still Kushina never said for Naruto to find a girl like Minato, she said find a girl like her. So now either way, the argument of NH with MK fails, its Sakura towards Kushina and nothing of any importance was ever put forward with any relation of Minato towards Hinata. Seriously even now on the battlefield and before the edo kage release, what is the purpose of Minato and Hinata interacting, any real importance whatsoever? Evidence always beats opinion, sorry it does. 631 was a earth shattering moment for the pairing wars and its effects are still being felt. For years Kushina was held as important and how the Sakura-Kushina parallel is labeled as worthless, wrong, only seeing Sakura's temper, Minato does not know his own son, he will see Hinata later, it was a joke (as all NS is comedy and a red herring to others), Sakura and Naruto are two kushinas so it would not work, Hinata is somehow like Minato (it cannot be both Minato and Kushina to this logic yet some try to play it like it can etc. Too many divides and holes.
Even then, when Jiraya, a parallel of Naruto himself, Kakashi, and even the early interaction with Kushina and wanting to be hokage, how much more relation do we need of Minato to Naruto? He almost looks like a direct clone of Minato for christs sake! Naruto has the qualities of both his parents but why is the minato one dominant? Its because the early interacting with Kushina practically played out the same way and there are more sequences of him mimicking his father then advocation to be like Kushina. Personality wise he is similar, but when you have another character acting like the mother, even then when the mother herself freaking says to find someone LIKE HER it stands to reason how clear this is, Kushina is basically giving the parallel title away to another girl by that line, so this would basically in a sense leave the Minato poriton free to dominate. Even then you can call him having both traits making him compatible both ways, if Naruto has Minato and Kushina and Sakura is Kushina, its kinda like a blood type ordeal, higher quaitiy blood can accept lower qualities (like AB can accept A, B, or O) where as O can be the universal donor. Seriously, anyway to argue this, that Minato qualitiy in Naruto gives him more purpose and even then its only empowered by the witnesses like Jiraya, Kakashi, and how the ordeals for others like Jiraya and Obito turned out only further bloaster the Minato side. In other words, Hinata is not a parallel with Minato in anyway, shape, or form, never has and still has not, and most likely never will. All Hinata has in common with Kushina is being kidnapped by the cloud, and that is not something to be proud of.
When people insult my OTP
Insulting a man’s ship, be worse than insulting his mother.
Simple, most of the people that run that wiki are naruhina fans. Therefore, their opinion is somewhat biased. However we all know kishi's intentions so I don't know why this would matter. It's not like kishi pays attention to the western fanbase anyways.
Kishik most likely listens to no fanbase, rather just the feedback for the general story and central plot and a few things here and there, but even still for anything that is argued with "Hinata being a parallel to Minato" well, where is it?
Seriously, we have a Sakura-Kushina parallel, so now are we waiting for Minato to somehow just look at Hinata and go, she is like me? Don't know who pulled this out but still Kushina never said for Naruto to find a girl like Minato, she said find a girl like her. So now either way, the argument of NH with MK fails, its Sakura towards Kushina and nothing of any importance was ever put forward with any relation of Minato towards Hinata. Seriously even now on the battlefield and before the edo kage release, what is the purpose of Minato and Hinata interacting, any real importance whatsoever? Evidence always beats opinion, sorry it does. 631 was a earth shattering moment for the pairing wars and its effects are still being felt. For years Kushina was held as important and how the Sakura-Kushina parallel is labeled as worthless, wrong, only seeing Sakura's temper, Minato does not know his own son, he will see Hinata later, it was a joke (as all NS is comedy and a red herring to others), Sakura and Naruto are two kushinas so it would not work, Hinata is somehow like Minato (it cannot be both Minato and Kushina to this logic yet some try to play it like it can etc. Too many divides and holes.
Even then, when Jiraya, a parallel of Naruto himself, Kakashi, and even the early interaction with Kushina and wanting to be hokage, how much more relation do we need of Minato to Naruto? He almost looks like a direct clone of Minato for christs sake! Naruto has the qualities of both his parents but why is the minato one dominant? Its because the early interacting with Kushina practically played out the same way and there are more sequences of him mimicking his father then advocation to be like Kushina. Personality wise he is similar, but when you have another character acting like the mother, even then when the mother herself freaking says to find someone LIKE HER it stands to reason how clear this is, Kushina is basically giving the parallel title away to another girl by that line, so this would basically in a sense leave the Minato poriton free to dominate. Even then you can call him having both traits making him compatible both ways, if Naruto has Minato and Kushina and Sakura is Kushina, its kinda like a blood type ordeal, higher quaitiy blood can accept lower qualities (like AB can accept A, B, or O) where as O can be the universal donor. Seriously, anyway to argue this, that Minato qualitiy in Naruto gives him more purpose and even then its only empowered by the witnesses like Jiraya, Kakashi, and how the ordeals for others like Jiraya and Obito turned out only further bloaster the Minato side. In other words, Hinata is not a parallel with Minato in anyway, shape, or form, never has and still has not, and most likely never will. All Hinata has in common with Kushina is being kidnapped by the cloud, and that is not something to be proud of.
About the naruto media such as twitter, forums, tv tropes, and especially wiki im really concerned about it if they only see ss and nh as a possible pairing whats going to happen to those sites when ns becomes canon? There will be some people questioning the truth then those sites will be in a big big trouble also they better not make an ariticle saying how the pairing only happen without quality or say something thats going to lead misconception .
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 02:52 AM
About the naruto media such as twitter, forums, tv tropes, and especially wiki im really concerned about it if they only see ss and nh as a possible pairing whats going to happen to those sites when ns becomes canon? There will be some people questioning the truth then those sites will be in a big big trouble also they better not make an ariticle saying how the pairing only happen without quality or say something thats going to lead misconception .
They can do what they want, to me I genuinely could not care about those websites because when you are biased you will pay or it. They can say what they want but as it stands in the manga is a completely different story. It's pretty clear kishi is going for a narusaku ending and is going to end sasusaku sooner than we expect. So all we have to do is enjoy this. There is at most another 2-3 volumes left of this war which narusaku will probably become cannon at the end of. Kisihi is putting an end to everything and showing us his path to the ending. He could not be more obvious at this point.
They can do what they want, to me I genuinely could not care about those websites because when you are biased you will pay or it. They can say what they want but as it stands in the manga is a completely different story. It's pretty clear kishi is going for a narusaku ending and is going to end sasusaku sooner than we expect. So all we have to do is enjoy this. There is at most another 2-3 volumes left of this war which narusaku will probably become cannon at the end of. Kisihi is putting an end to everything and showing us his path to the ending. He could not be more obvious at this point.
But at the same time its going to harm the reputation of our fandom with misconception plus its disrespectful towards kishi.
Also i feel bad for new comers who have to be introduced towards the negativity in the fanbase therefore causing more negativeness in the fan base. I just don't want to feel more ashamed of my fanbase. Sadly some people will keep bashing till the end of time even if kishi puts an end to every thing in the pairing wars by making ns canon.
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 04:36 AM
But at the same time its going to harm the reputation of our fandom with misconception plus its disrespectful towards kishi.
Also i feel bad for new comers who have to be introduced towards the negativity in the fanbase therefore causing more negativeness in the fan base. I just don't want to feel more ashamed of my fanbase. Sadly some people will keep bashing till the end of time even if kishi puts an end to every thing in the pairing wars by making ns canon.
No doubt this will happen but this is how the fandom was built and how they probably will be. They don't like to accept what is in the manga and seem to make up their own interpretations of everything. It's hilarious somewhat, but I'm not worried about it. I don't think kishi really cares about this fanbase either way so it's not like he will be affected by it.
If by this then you mean that you think that Sakura might confess to Sasuke again in the future chapters to get him to come back, then I think not. She already confessed once, and that was when she was a lot weaker emotionally/mentally, and I would see it as a huge character regression if she were to confess again to Sasuke. I think that the fake smile in 635 (I think) was meant to show the depletion in her romantic feelings for Sasuke.
That's not what i meant its the dramatization im concerned about and i really don't want sai to give wake up call towards sakura if kishi decides to have her go into a weak state like in the summit arc sakura fighting herself about the decision she has to make is better than just sai fixing the problem for her. And sakura haters will get more active again.
I know worrying isn't going to help , but kishi is known to put drama that hurt the reputation of a character.
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 06:10 AM
That's not what i meant its the dramatization im concerned about and i really don't want sai to give wake up call towards sakura if kishi decides to have her go into a weak state like in the summit arc sakura fighting herself about the decision she has to make is better than just sai fixing the problem for her. And sakura haters will get more active again.
I know worrying isn't going to help , but kishi is known to put drama that hurt the reputation of a character.
Im hoping that this won't happen...
I think kishi used sai to give her a wake up call and to also show how she feels about sasuke. Now I think is her realization towards sasuke and the actions she will take. I think sakura will recognize this herself considering how she is lying to sai. We are nearing the ending so kishi needs to make everything clear and to end everything. Hopefully the conclusion won't disappoint us.
@rikakim94: Some people will make talks of their own about how NS was no sense and how Kishi is a bad writer or whatever. This would be because they want to release their frustration from what happened.
But, the rest will know that the manga was preparing for NS and everything. The new comers will have to read the manga eventually if they're really interested. If they happen to get affected from wikis and such, well, when they read the manga, I don't think this effect will last cause when you read something for the first time, gradually you'll see clearer what's happening and not to mention that they will know there were biasness from what they have read in those wikis and such.
Don't mind. Everyone eventually will see the truth in everything.
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:07 AM
@rikakim94: Some people will make talks of their own about how NS was no sense and how Kishi is a bad writer or whatever. This would be because they want to release their frustration from what happened.
But, the rest will know that the manga was preparing for NS and everything. The new comers will have to read the manga eventually if they're really interested. If they happen to get affected from wikis and such, well, when they read the manga, I don't think this effect will last cause when you read something for the first time, gradually you'll see clearer what's happening and not to mention that they will know there were biasness from what they have read in those wikis and such.
Don't mind. Everyone eventually will see the truth in everything.
Bolded, both fanbases are guilty at this.
I saw NS fans here after 615 claiming they would drop the series if NH happened, or that he was forced by the editor.
Lets just respect the mangaka, shall we?
Anyways about the wiki. I normally don't care, but my friends irl always tells me how awesome it is, and I know it's not. XD Then I tell them to read the databooks and they call me a nerd lol. The wiki is made by fans, but some things are helpful (blood-type, list of episodes and relative sections). Because it's facts and not speculation. Chapter and episode summaries are usually biased because it's all about POV.
SasuSaku might be dead and done with in the next volume for all we know. Kishi has been running SasuSaku in a bad light in a negative sense since the beginning of shippuden. It's only a matter of time before it shatters and breaks. Sasusaku is living on a thread of feelings that Sakura has towards Sasuke. I have a feeling that as SasuSaku ends NaruSaku will start to fully develop through till the end of the war and after a possible good closure for naruhina. If 645 is the moment NaruSaku becomes canon, even though it's 99.99% chance a rumor, imagine the reactions from everyone. Forums will close down. However, I see 645 as a chapter that could put an end to SasuSaku if it were anything because I don't see NaruSaku becoming canon by that time. But oh, 645, even though it's a silly rumor, I can't wait.
How do you guys feel when popular narusaku artist gets comments thats forcing the person replace the character that they don't like into something they like? or worse its used as a meme to go aganist the ns ship? The popular artist might not care , but its reason why i refuse to draw anything naruto pairing related in a blog or art site you will get judged harshly for not supporting a popular pairing/character. Its something i don't want to deal with every day.
Yesterday i got headache when looking at one of the popular ns artist on deviant art thats why i wanted to ask.
The wiki is made by fans, but some things are helpful (blood-type, list of episodes and relative sections). Because it's facts and not speculation. Chapter and episode summaries are usually biased because it's all about POV.
