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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:01 PM

Did anyone notice the mangastream translation is completely different than mangapanda?? The mangastream translation literally doesn't make sense, it's kind of funny.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:02 PM

I don't think he was planning on killing Sakura, when Madara attacked them with limbo you see they aren't even close to each other.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:03 PM

 
Sakura needs to eat the fruit.  :yes:

Yeah, but that would be an easy win. Not that I'm complaining. Lol.

That's because Sasuke is the third wheel in here  :chuckle: . But seriously The New T7 and Taka has a better teamwork then this three together it just goes to show you that Sasuke just doesn't fit with them no matter how powerful he might be lol.

You know, it almost feels like Kishi's plan is to have Sakura to see that even saving him from darkness, perhaps bringing him back to them isn't a good idea. Like I don't think it's about romance at this point. I mean if it is, then so be it, but it almost seem like Kishi is purposely showing that chemistry don't last forever. It's like the comfortability level isn't there anymore. I don't know but I do hope by the end of the war, I'll know the story behind it.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:04 PM

I don't think he was planning on killing Sakura, when Madara attacked them with limbo you see they aren't even close to each other.

 

I didn't say that Madara would have attacked her... I said that Sakura just thought that Madara would have attacked her at the first...


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:06 PM

I have mixed feelings towards Sakura as well.

On one hand, I can see how her actions could be considered a tactical move. With a strong opponent like Madara who can swat you like a fly in 0.0001 seconds flat, you don't have the time to analyze. Since Sakura is now immortal in battle, attacking head on towards the enemy is the best way to understand the enemies attacks while giving an opening for Naruto and Sasuke to attack Madara.

The problem is that she had no knowledge about Madara fighting skills, so she wasnt the proper one to start a tactic the wise move was to follow Naruto and Sasuke but no, Naruto told her to wait and simply asked them to charge in.
Ignoring that the Madara had limbo.

She pratically didnt made a plan, she just went in to make a diversion, the wise tatic was for her to follow Naruto and Sasuke and land her blow on the right time, in fact she was OOC and lacked her traits of patience and analythical thinking.

 

However, I did not like how she was handled. On one moment, she wants to save her teammates, and the next moment Kishi shows her being saved instead. But oh well, both Naruto and Sasuke's attacks didn't work at first when handling Obito or Madara. First attacks don't hit, and the way Kishi handled her I think it's not possible that he's not going to follow up with the words she said.

Pretty much but if Kishi likes her character he will stop trolling her and give her a powerup.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:09 PM

Ah ! I new it Sakura would release her seal ! =D

I think Sasuke was going to slice her with Madara as well. Maybe I should re-read the chapter to verify, but it's weird he was about to slice Madara but he was behind Sakura...

I think the fact that Sakura is unhappy that Sasuke doesn't care is about friendship/nakama and not about love.  He doesn't care if she dies or not apparently. He came to cooperate so even if he once tried to killed her, it's just logical she would expect a little from him to be at least their nakama again, and caring about their lives. But no.

Well, this is how I understand it.

 

I'm really happy that Sakura went directly on Madara.

Just a little disappointed because I clearly couldn't see any teamwork... maybe later... (well Sakura did create an opening after all but it's not like Ino Shika Sho teamwork at all... )

 

And, guys, it seems this infinite genjutsu is bound to happen finally...


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:11 PM

The problem is that she had no knowledge about Madara fighting skills, so she wasnt the proper one to start a tactic the wise move was to follow Naruto and Sasuke but no, Naruto told her to wait and simply asked them to charge in.
Ignoring that the Madara had limbo.

She pratically didnt made a plan, she just went in to make a diversion, the wise tatic was for her to follow Naruto and Sasuke and land her blow on the right time, in fact she was OOC and lacked her traits of patience and analythical thinking.

 
Pretty much but if Kishi likes her character he will stop trolling her and give her a powerup.


Well this shows that she is adopting Naruto's impulsiveness LOL. I agree with you completely though. I re-read the chapter was is kind of disappointed.


 


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:12 PM

Um, for those who saw it as NS vs. SS....

NS scored?..lol

NS: 1
SS: 0

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:14 PM

The problem is that she had no knowledge about Madara fighting skills, so she wasnt the proper one to start a tactic the wise move was to follow Naruto and Sasuke but no, Naruto told her to wait and simply asked them to charge in.
Ignoring that the Madara had limbo.

She pratically didnt made a plan, she just went in to make a diversion, the wise tatic was for her to follow Naruto and Sasuke and land her blow on the right time, in fact she was OOC and lacked her traits of patience and analythical thinking.

 
Pretty much but if Kishi likes her character he will stop trolling her and give her a powerup.

 

i agree with some of this, however, let us not forget that one important thing about Sakura is that she has this insecurity about being a burden to someone. I can totally see her strive to be useful by being a decoy. I can understand that she was out-of-character if she had just charged in with the intent to actually take on Madara with killing intent. No, she was being a distraction for Naruto and Sasuke since she is the weakest link in the group. The distraction is most likely the weakest of the group. 

 

I do agree that she really needs a power-up though. Perhaps she could eat the fruit and inherit Kaguya's power?  :headscratch:



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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:16 PM

The thing is Madara is actually going for the plan, more so than fighting. Wow, a villain going for the plan than fighting, really? If it was fighting, things would have been different. Now, we just have to see how these guys are going to escape.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:17 PM

Um, for those who saw it as NS vs. SS....

NS scored?..lol

NS: 1
SS: 0

SS for me is already dead since the summit.
I'm more concerned if Kishi is going to make NS properly done or will crap write it and hope for him to depict Sakura properly as heroine instead of putting her into damsel and distress situations and having to be saved the whole time.
It's the second time just on this arc that when the three is fighting Sakura end up being saved.

i agree with some of this, however, let us not forget that one important thing about Sakura is that she has this insecurity about being a burden to someone. I can totally see her strive to be useful by being a decoy. I can understand that she was out-of-character if she had just charged in with the intent to actually take on Madara with killing intent. No, she was being a distraction for Naruto and Sasuke since she is the weakest link in the group. The distraction is most likely the weakest of the group.

But without knowing the opponent is pretty useless.
HEr insecurity is something that needs to be worked upon, she either accepts her role as a medic and stop looking at herself as a burden or gets a massive powerup and goes to fight.
Because this is not just putting her in danger but screwing their teammates aswell, it's the second time she's saved by them.
Also i dont understand why she views herself as a burden, she saved Naruto LOL.

I do agree that she really needs a power-up though. Perhaps she could eat the fruit and inherit Kaguya's power?  :headscratch:

That's why i believe she will get a powerup

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:20 PM

 

That's because Sakura felt to be surrounded by Madara's eyes. On page 3 of this chapter, first Madara takes a look at this right side and there's Sasuke. Then his gaze moves to the center and he sees Naruto, and finally turns his gaze to his left side where there's Sakura. Sakura notices this and, mabybe for her safety and in order to not make thins worse for his mates by stading at attention, she moves back. I think that Mangapanda is more accurate here, when Kakashi thinks "I can't blame here, with that eye power..."
What's one of the rules when you face the enemy in battle? Gunning down, if there're some, medical ninjas earlier. Sakura just thought that Madara would attack her first, since his finale look has been placed on herself. And, instead of waiting the first madara's move towards her, he preferred to launch a desperate counter-attack. Not exactly a perfect scheme of teamwork but I honestly understand her pov. For this reason she activated her Byakugou technique (whose uses this are in fact immortal) and used herself as a decoy, so that it can distract Madara from Naruto and Sasuke.

I know that and i agree perhaps i should have mentioned that also but it doesn't change the fact that she was doing it because of T7 because she wanted to be a part of it and don't feel left out of it , she wanted teamwork for them to fight as a "team"  and Sasuke ruined that he didn't care that's why she was sad that was my whole point and it also connects with what was said in 675 about whether Sasuke still considers to be a part of T7 and Kakashi's thoughts about Sakura .

 

I also take MP to be the correct one usually i don't take MS serious with their translations  even though MS point this out that she's doing it for T7 but like you said they made no sense with that panel of Sakura stepping back maybe the RAW will be more clear on this .   


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:22 PM

I didn't say that Madara would have attacked her... I said that Sakura just thought that Madara would have attacked her at the first...


No I wasn't talking to you directly, I was talking to everyone. Also I was talking about Sasuke was apparently getting ready to chop Sakura in half.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:24 PM

The problem with Kakashi's lesson on teamwork was that it was never put forth to practice. Even in part one it was never T7, it was Naruto and Sasuke trying to be the big hero, while Sakura stood in the background. Three years later of no positive comunnication and seperation and their teamwork sucks even more. Based on the bell test from the beginning of part two, it shows that Naruto and Sakura have teamwork down. However, when Sasuke is in the picture, Naruto has his sights set more on Sasuke and making sure he's keeping up or surpassing him, to where he is not even trying to work with Sasuke, let alone Sakura.

 

T7 has never had teamwork or cooperation between each other and the seperation only made it worse.( though it help Sakura slowly see her feelings for sasuke were wrong, so i'll take that.) Not to mention Kishi set it up to where T7 could never work as a full team. Naruo and Sasuke are 10X stronger than Sakura and as of right now outclass her completely, so unless he does something about that, there will be no real teamwork, there will only be Naruto and Sasuke. A fact that I find completely infuriating. :glare:


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:25 PM

I'm under the impression Naruto and Saskue will not be effected by the moon eye genjustu. I think they will still be able to fight after its cast, which will throw Madara off. Also, since Obito is on the field, and Madara stated that Sharingan (or eyes in general) are more powerful when together, Kakashi might get both Obitos Sharingans thus unlocking their full potential; which might actually make him useful in the fight.

 

As for all the NS and SS stuff, I feel like NS is gaining major ground here. Saskue showed little interest in actually saving her, while Naruto actually went to her. This is a pretty good moment for her to realize who actually cares about her.  


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:26 PM

I know that and i agree perhaps i should have mentioned that also but it doesn't change the fact that she was doing it because of T7 because she wanted to be a part of it and don't feel left out of it , she wanted teamwork for them to fight as a "team"  and Sasuke ruined that he didn't care that's why she was sad that was my whole point and it also connects with what was said in 675 about whether Sasuke still considers to be a part of T7 and Kakashi's thoughts about Sakura .

That was something i notice too, her desire to be part of it, but however the powerup is a problem to her, she doesnt have strenght to fight against an opponent like Madara so it's something she needs to accept or get a powerup, Sakura is at odds with the current standing between Naruto and Sasuke, they are already way too strong for her to caught up, she thought she had caught up with them but Naruto and Sasuke got a massive powerup just after that and Sakura got none.
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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:27 PM

[quote name="Dαrkrєrsŧ" post="528913" timestamp="1400076398"]The problem is that she had no knowledge about Madara fighting skills, so she wasnt the proper one to start a tactic the wise move was to follow Naruto and Sasuke but no, Naruto told her to wait and simply asked them to charge in.Ignoring that the Madara had limbo.She pratically didnt made a plan, she just went in to make a diversion, the wise tatic was for her to follow Naruto and Sasuke and land her blow on the right time, in fact she was OOC and lacked her traits of patience and analythical thinking. [/quote]
I don't see how her being trait of being patient would have made the situation better. It's not 100% guaranteed that Madara will just stand there and wait until Naruto and Sasuke tells Sakura about his abilities and form a tactic, or that he will just let Team seven attack him together. Sakura's traits worked with Sasori because he was gentleman enough to just stand and wait for Sakura and Chiyo to finish their strategy session. I don't see Madara doing the same.

Until we see the end of the battle, we will never know what methods would have succeeded.
[quote name="Dαrkrєrsŧ" post="528913" timestamp="1400076398"Pretty much but if Kishi likes her character he will stop trolling her and give her a powerup.[/quote]
Hopes so. I don't want the her to have a repetition of Tsunade(vs. Madara).

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:27 PM

Anyone think Sakura feelings will get resolve within the infinite tsukuyomi?



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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:31 PM

I don't see how her being patient would have made the situation better. It's not 100% guaranteed that Madara will just stand there and wait until Naruto and Sasuke tells Sakura about his abilities and form a tactic, or that he will just let Team seven attack him together.

Until we see the end of the battle, we will never know what methods would have succeeded.

Madara waited in a lot of occasions he would've waited for Sakura to come with a plan, and that plan would be follow Naruto and Sasuke because they know how Madara fights.
 

. This is a pretty good moment for her to realize who actually cares about her.

It wasnt about whom cares more about her, she already knows that what she wanted to see is if deep inside Sasuke cared about her but we know that Sasuke only cares about Naruto.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:32 PM

Anyone think Sakura feelings will get resolve within the infinite tsukuyomi?

 

Me. This sort of thing reminds of the Road to Ninja. You saw how that ended up, right? Sasuke came back but he was pretty much a player and she wasn't the only girl he flirted with.. Either way, Sakura is unhappy. I think this will make her see that either way, she will never get Sasuke's love. Even if Sasuke is saved from the darkness, he will never love her. 

 

More than anything, I think Sakura will be the only one truly affected by the Tsukuyomi and what happens. 


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