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[James S Cassidy]

I have decided that ObiRin and NaruHina are parallel.....

 

 

 

 

.......they were both destined to never going to happen.

[sushi.]

One more funny thing is that they make every so called parallel of Hinata..shy.

 

"Minato was shy", "Rin was shy". because they're not loud whildchilds like Naruto and Kushina, they must be shy then.
 

[Superman333]

I don't get why they say Minato was shy when Minato openly stated he will be Hokage, If Hinata had a dream like that I'm sure she wouldn't state it openly . Thats not the sign of a shy person . They fail to realize that shy(Hinata)  and laid back(Minato)  is two different personalities . 

[TouKen4Life3g]

The parallels simplifies and recaps NS, they're basically summed up in brief flashbacks. Rin was devoted to Obito, we don't need to know how, when or why. We didn't see their journey, but we did see Sakura's. She became devoted to Naruto over time, because Kishi had to 200 chapters to expand on it, they weren't limited to 2.
Someone tell me Sakura is not devoted to Naruto now, oh that'll make my day.
 
And that vid..I subbed him before. I think I've ditched like 3 of these so called reviewers, this fandom is sad. (not based on just those 3, but together they have over 200 000 subs who overall agree with their statements)
 
They don't really annoy me though..what's annoying to me is the selective reading and the mistranslations.

That's why I have to voice my thoughts. I really put pairing behind me in review, though I'll bring it up in normal term since sadly pairing talk is important to fandom. I don't hate it, but it's like if I were to talk about the chapter, they would be like "Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the pairing, what is your thought?" Didn't get that but I have read from elsewhere.

I think the main problem is that followers take a new level of following. Followers shouldn't be clone their thoughts. Like if you said "the chapter was pretty good," but after the review, you say otherwise depending on the reviewer. Why can't you stay with your opinion. I could understand neutral side people at times, but if you justify your thoughts, you should stick to it. If you change your opinion, fine, but so long you the one that thought of it, not word from word from another.

[Hanabi]

I heard hinata is compared to obito. coz when they were small both of them were both ostracized for not being skilled enough in their clans.

[Psychox]

You know, the arguments I hear are not about how Hinata is like Rin, but how Rin and Sakura are supposedly so different. I just
 
So apparently this big difference that they talk about is of how Rin was very devoted to Obito while the only thing Sakura cares about ever is being a Sasuke fangirl. I'm not kidding, that's the actual argument. According to them Sakura doesn't support Naruto's dream, doesn't care much about him, and only uses him to her benefit. But on the other Rin is devoted to Obito, and was willing to stick with him no matter what, which is something apparently Sakura would never do with Naruto.
 
What irritates me the most is how they say it as if it's some grant epiphany, as if that was Kishimoto's intention regarding the Sakura/Rin comparison. The bias that people have really makes me sick.
 
Here's an example:
 

XX, That's Sakura haters for ya. This all comes from part 1 and that dumb 632 panel where Sakura ''blushed''. How the kitten does that begin to make sense since 3 chapters later she is shown not trusting Sasuke's intentions nor likes his presents ? It all comes down to low reading comprehension..

Sometimes they make me so mad i wanna

It all comes down to ''Sakura did nothing for Naruto she uses him for her own selfish needs, she will love Sasuke for ever and ever'' . This is BS. I'm sick of seeing this overall ..
I watched 3/4 of his videos and everyone of them he either bashes Sakura and says Hinata ftw.. T_T

I am so done with this..

Edited by Psychox, 31 October 2013 - 04:36 PM.

[Superman333]

You know, the arguments I hear are not about how Hinata is like Rin, but how Rin and Sakura are supposedly so different. I just

 

So apparently this big difference that they talk about is of how Rin was very devoted to Obito while the only thing Sakura cares about ever is being a Sasuke fangirl. I'm not kidding, that's the actual argument. According to them Sakura doesn't support Naruto's dream, doesn't care much about him, and only uses him to her benefit. But on the other Rin is devoted to Obito, and was willing to stick with him no matter what, which is something apparently Sakura would never do with Naruto.

 

What irritates me the most is how they say it as if it's some grant epiphany, as if that was Kishimoto's intention regarding the Sakura/Rin comparison. The bias that people have really makes me sick.

 

Here's an example:

 

no bashing but I watch this guys reviews and he is a nitwit . 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I have decided that ObiRin and NaruHina are parallel.....

 

 

 

 

.......they were both destined to never going to happen.

What if Obi/Rin happen in afterlife like Rin waiting for Obito...

 

AS a matter of in general i always think that Obi/Rin makes people root for NS because it's a very similar relationship that ended in a tragedy.

I've seen those things in other series.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 31 October 2013 - 04:44 PM.

[rocci]

@darkrest
Yes I agree with you, but some will say that sakura isn't rin parallel because of this and that. I mean comeon it's oblivious since kakashi gaiden that obirin parallel NS, and still people denied it.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I explained in the review that while it's not supposed to be a pairing parallel, rather characters' parallel. It's not that Kishi is using Naruto's relationship but it's being handled in a subtle way, much like with Kakashi being as Sasuke in Gaiden. We weren't supposed to know 100% that they're basically Naruto/Sasuke of the old generation, but we know well enough it is. This goes the same for Obito/Rin. Unless they really want a "prove it" moment, because, well be careful what you wish for.

[Superman333]

What if Obi/Rin happen in afterlife like Rin waiting for Obito...

 

AS a matter of in general i always think that Obi/Rin makes people root for NS because it's a very similar relationship that ended in a tragedy.

I've seen those things in other series.

yeah much like how Kakashi met his father in the afterlife to have that one last talk with him?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I explained in the review that while it's not supposed to be a pairing parallel, rather characters' parallel. It's not that Kishi is using Naruto's relationship but it's being handled in a subtle way, much like with Kakashi being as Sasuke in Gaiden. We weren't supposed to know 100% that they're basically Naruto/Sasuke of the old generation, but we know well enough it is. This goes the same for Obito/Rin. Unless they really want a "prove it" moment, because, well be careful what you wish for.

I always thought if Kishi goes Obi/Rin on Naruto NS would be canon but the purpose of it is clear, make people root for NS.
It's kinda obvious how this relationship is the type of "they should had been together" because of the tragedy and in fact it mirrors to Naruto and Sakura, not on the manga but make people root for them to be together as a some sort to make up for Obi/Rin.

I would say it makes NS more appealing, we already got the whole Kushina thing appealing Sakura and now Obi/Rin appealing NS.

NH and SS has zero appeal, while SS only got negative appealing, on the same Obi/Rin stuff we got how kakashi acted the same way when it comes to Sasuke towards Sakura.

 

 

yeah much like how Kakashi met his father in the afterlife to have that one last talk with him?

 

I think probably.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 31 October 2013 - 05:04 PM.

[redragon88]

@darkrest
Yes I agree with you, but some will say that sakura isn't rin parallel because of this and that. I mean comeon it's oblivious since kakashi gaiden that obirin parallel NS, and still people denied it.

 

Unfortunately people will keep claiming that Sakura's first priority in life is to become Sasuke's girlfriend and that she doesn't care much about Naruto's dreams.

 

It really pisses me off how people come to the conclusion that what Kishi wants to say it that Rin was good for Obito but Sakura is bad for Naruto. How the hell does that work? Sakura's not some villainous girl that it trying to take advantage of Naruto.

 

I understand that people might not like Sakura's development, or the way she's currently involved in the story, but there are some things that should be pretty basic to comprehend, and one of those things is that Sakura is a precious person to Naruto even if it's only on the merit of being Team 7. That despite her mistakes she wants what's best for Naruto and to see him happy. This is extremely basic stuff, but that just flies right by for some people.

 

The people that hate Sakura and the possibility of NS are of the same mentality as religious zealots. They'll always modify facts to satisfy their twisted views, which probably come from some deep personal problems that they've had in their lives. You could almost feel sorry for such a pathetic lot.

[James S Cassidy]

What if Obi/Rin happen in afterlife like Rin waiting for Obito...

 

AS a matter of in general i always think that Obi/Rin makes people root for NS because it's a very similar relationship that ended in a tragedy.

I've seen those things in other series.

 

You are aware I was kidding, right?

[TouKen4Life3g]

I always thought if Kishi goes Obi/Rin on Naruto NS would be canon but the purpose of it is clear, make people root for NS.
It's kinda obvious how this relationship is the type of "they should had been together" because of the tragedy and in fact it mirrors to Naruto and Sakura, not on the manga but make people root for them to be together as a some sort to make up for Obi/Rin.
I would say it makes NS more appealing, we already got the whole Kushina thing appealing Sakura and now Obi/Rin appealing NS.
NH and SS has zero appeal, while SS only got negative appealing, on the same Obi/Rin stuff we got how kakashi acted the same way when it comes to Sasuke towards Sakura.
 
 
I think probably.

That does sound like a good point. I mean at he more I look at my old posts here, the more it makes me sad that they did have a chance if the whole incident didn't happen. It was too early and it left Obito off-track as he took a while to recover. It just makes everything upsetting. It's not about feeling sorry for Obito, though I think later on I may be, but rather how one relationship could have an happily ever after. I feel bad for Rin as I feel that Obito should be ashamed that he went this way.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

Unfortunately people will keep claiming that Sakura's first priority in life is to become Sasuke's girlfriend and that she doesn't care much about Naruto's dreams.

 

It really pisses me off how people come to the conclusion that what Kishi wants to say it that Rin was good for Obito but Sakura is bad for Naruto. How the hell does that work? Sakura's not some villainous girl that it trying to take advantage of Naruto.

 

I understand that people might not like Sakura's development, or the way she's currently involved in the story, but there are some things that should be pretty basic to comprehend, and one of those things is that Sakura is a precious person to Naruto even if it's only on the merit of being Team 7. That despite her mistakes she wants what's best for Naruto and to see him happy. This is extremely basic stuff, but that just flies right by for some people.

 

The people that hate Sakura and the possibility of NS are of the same mentality as religious zealots. They'll always modify facts to satisfy their twisted views, which probably come from some deep personal problems that they've had in their lives. You could almost feel sorry for such a pathetic lot.

This happens due to the lack of an objective for Sakura, she was a Sasuke fangirl and what she wanted the most was his acknowledgement and be noticed and obvious be his girlfriend.

 

That's denial and hatedom but obviously due to the fact Naruto struggled on his love for Sakura by hiding his feelings the difference is that due to the fact Naruto is a main character we saw this more but with Obito it was not show much but both of them struggled on this matter, like when Obito was going to confess until he saw that Rin still loved Kakashi when she came up with buying a gift for him, and when on his exam he failed and later he saw Rin infatuated with Kakashi.

Again, on the part off looking bad, i would say she looked worse when after Kakashi told her that Obito loved her she still said she loved Kakashi until he give her a wake up call by saying he was going to abandon her if wasnt Obito.

So she also had her own failures, that after Obito sacrificed his own life to protect her.

If she's not hated because of that then it's just a matter of pairings, hate Sakura because of NH/SS.

 

Ofc she wants to help Naruto and wants to see him succeed but we dont know what she really wants for herself, but she cares the most is naruto's dream due to the fact he supported her when she need the most.

 

They still claim that Hinata is a main character that alone is already a reason to stop arguing.

 

 

 

You are aware I was kidding, right?

 

Yes i know, i was just poking fun at the fact that if Obi/Rin happens in afterlife then NH would be...

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 31 October 2013 - 06:31 PM.

[Psychox]

This happens due to the lack of an objective for Sakura, she was a Sasuke fangirl and what she wanted the most was his acknowledgement and be noticed and obvious be his girlfriend.

 

That's denial and hatedom but obviously due to the fact Naruto struggled on his love for Sakura by hiding his feelings the difference is that due to the fact Naruto is a main character we saw this more but with Obito it was not show much but both of them struggled on this matter, like when Obito was going to confess until he saw that Rin still loved Kakashi when she came up with buying a gift for him, and when on his exam he failed and later he saw Rin infatuated with Kakashi.

Again, on the part off looking bad, i would say she looked worse when after Kakashi told her that Obito loved her she still said she loved Kakashi until he give her a wake up call by saying he was going to abandon her if wasnt Obito.

So she also had her own failures, that after Obito sacrificed his own life to protect her.

If she's not hated because of that then it's just a matter of pairings, hate Sakura because of NH/SS.

 

Ofc she wants to help Naruto and wants to see him succeed but we dont know what she really wants for herself, but she cares the most is naruto's dream due to the fact he supported her when she need the most.

 

They still claim that Hinata is a main character that alone is already a reason to stop arguing.

Many will say to this that Sakura's dream was romantic and start flipping off when its not added ..


Hm.. I don't know..




We have this^ and here she says no such thing as '' i want to support you ,because you did all these things for me'' , but we do see it here that she really appreciates him and he is the one that  fully understands her  ..


So, i don't think she just wants to support him/aid him because he was there for her, but because she loves him ( in the platonic way    )
 

Edited by Psychox, 31 October 2013 - 06:53 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Just the fact that Rin wasn't aware of his feelings or even think about that goes to show you that there are times they don't know what is truly there. There's nothing to hide for NH but for NS, Sakura is still questionable.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Many will say to this that Sakura's dream was romantic and start flipping off when its not added ..


Hm.. I don't know..




We have this^ and here she says no such thing as '' i want to support you ,because you did all these things for me'' , but we do see it here that she really appreciates him and he is the one that  fully understands her  ..


So, i don't think she just wants to support him/aid him because he was there for her, but because she loves him ( in the platonic way    )
 

YEp Kishi's "when a person sees something trying hard to achieve something makes you want to lend a hand" it suits perfectly with her desire to help Naruto.
She's by far the person who watched Naruto struggling hard to become a great ninja and makes her want to help him.
The hospital brings up the impression of that, after seeing Naruto almost dying to bring back Sasuke she swore that she will become strong and help him.
It's almost the same, obviously she doesnt shout up this but that's the impression that gives.

She saw Naruto struggling hard to pass though the test on the chuunin exam and she was willing to give up in order for Naruto to not face the consequences of his own failure at the exam.

And the second panel you bought up.

 

But about "because she loves him" i believe it's incorrect, i think when she decided to make a confession for Naruto on the summit in order ot lift his burden, it had nothing to do with his dreams.

I would say she loves him because she put his wellbeing above her personal desires but it's not romantically as her love for Sasuke because i think she has yet to develop those and she's getting this development lately.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 31 October 2013 - 07:43 PM.

[sushi.]

Just the fact that Rin wasn't aware of his feelings or even think about that goes to show you that there are times they don't know what is truly there. There's nothing to hide for NH but for NS, Sakura is still questionable.

Yes and when he gives us a treat, he always have something to hide or interrupt. It's very artistic and makes a great visual effect. Sakura's reaction to Yamato's assumption was interrupted, I would've liked to see Naruto's face when Sakura hugged him, the feeding scene should've been completed, not to mention Kishi sometimes chooses to cut out the eyes in NS moments. And they should've really gone on that date!

 

To me it means that there is something to hide, some things will be cleared up along the way, and some will be hidden until the climax. Even though it's obvious