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#321 James S Cassidy

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 10:42 PM

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Onepunch man is a gag manga while superman isn't a gag comic.

Teen Titans Go is a gag cartoon while Teen Titans isn't and yet, people hate Teen Titans Go for the most part. What's your point?

Someone actually gave me the same response saying that "OP man takes the kitten kitten out of superheroes." So I guess Batman and Goku are kitten superhero because "they are too serious." Or are people going to be a hypocrite again and say that this only applies to Superman again?

Seriously, try to make to make Superman as comical as One Punch Man, and chances are, you'll hate him more than ever saying "Superman is supposed to be serious, not this joke." To me, there is no excuse. You can't say you hate superheroes who are overpowered and then turn around taking another OP superher and saying they are amazing simply because the style of that superhero is slightly different.

That's like me saying that I hate superheroes who struggle like Goku, but then love Batman because he faces villains that challenge him only because of the technicality that his villains are more interesting.


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Posted 04 November 2015 - 12:16 AM

My point is op man is comedy or in this case parody of superhero while superman isn't. You should not take that seriously.

I don't watch teen Titan go so I can't give you my response about it.

It truly depend if the author of superman could make a good comedy comic from him, because in op man the comedy is great and the addition of Murata make bad a great art.

Nah, it just fanboy banter about their favorite superhero. Bias always play big part in that kind of situation for both party.

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 02:11 AM

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Posted 09 November 2015 - 09:51 PM

Im only on episode 2 right now.
Lok does this even have an actual plot? Its good for relaxing after a days work

So this was quite an old manga?
Wonder why it didnt get an anime adaptation much sooner? But thats also a good things as its animated quite well.

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Posted 09 November 2015 - 10:00 PM

Im only on episode 2 right now.
Lok does this even have an actual plot? Its good for relaxing after a days work

So this was quite an old manga?
Wonder why it didnt get an anime adaptation much sooner? But thats also a good things as its animated quite well.

The real story is that it's from a web comic that garnered a huge hit so they made a manga version of it and wow, the art is amazing. This series is literally a story of itself that one random guy just doing it for fun and ended up being one of the best thing that happened in anime/manga universe.

This series is just fantastic and the hit is already showing gradually. All around smart writing and I don't think anime will use the side story (sad face...) but man, I'm really happy this series got the recognition it deserves.

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 02:23 PM

Teen Titans Go is a gag cartoon while Teen Titans isn't and yet, people hate Teen Titans Go for the most part. What's your point?

Someone actually gave me the same response saying that "OP man takes the kitten kitten out of superheroes." So I guess Batman and Goku are kitten superhero because "they are too serious." Or are people going to be a hypocrite again and say that this only applies to Superman again?

Seriously, try to make to make Superman as comical as One Punch Man, and chances are, you'll hate him more than ever saying "Superman is supposed to be serious, not this joke." To me, there is no excuse. You can't say you hate superheroes who are overpowered and then turn around taking another OP superher and saying they are amazing simply because the style of that superhero is slightly different.

That's like me saying that I hate superheroes who struggle like Goku, but then love Batman because he faces villains that challenge him only because of the technicality that his villains are more interesting.

comically Invincible Hero. Apparently being invincible for the sake of comedy is great,  but being invincible for the sake of drama gets boring. Don't ask me why, trying to reason double standards is a trap I'd like to avoid cause all it does is cause madness and burn out brain cells. Not saying that this series is not great or anything I've read some of the chapters and think they are hilarious if a bit repetitive but yeah I can't say why this is gold but Superman's stories are boring. Well I suppose that is just the typical reaction if you've seen something enough. Trust me, one day when something with the exact same premise as this comes out people will show the exact same sentiments as superman, although maybe they enjoy this cause it's not meant to be taken seriously. :shrug:


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Posted 10 November 2015 - 05:30 PM

So I read the manga, though I get the feeling that MP might have screwed up with their uploads of a few chapters. Watching the anime and reading the manga, this is one of the few rare cases where the anime is better than the original source manga, I found that there were too many pages that just had action scenes that tried to give you a visual representation of the enemies speed or/and power. While it loks cool, as a reader you  are left a bit satisfied that a third of the chapter was used just to show something that in a anime would take few seconds to show and have the same impact...a example would be showing the Ninja's speed against the OP-man, multiple pages were used to show this, where in the anime a few seconds did the same job if not better.

 

I'm not sure though, are there more chapters than the ones posted on Mangapanda? Also as I mentioned before I get the feelings mangapanda is mising chapters, for example, Fubiki, she came second in the popularity post, but she's hardly been in any of the chapters so far, and she seems to be hanging out with Saitama allot now, it feels like I missed an arc that explains her popularitiy but I missed it somehow.Well except for her looks, she does look pretty badarse.


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Posted 10 November 2015 - 06:28 PM

So I read the manga, though I get the feeling that MP might have screwed up with their uploads of a few chapters. Watching the anime and reading the manga, this is one of the few rare cases where the anime is better than the original source manga, I found that there were too many pages that just had action scenes that tried to give you a visual representation of the enemies speed or/and power. While it loks cool, as a reader you  are left a bit satisfied that a third of the chapter was used just to show something that in a anime would take few seconds to show and have the same impact...a example would be showing the Ninja's speed against the OP-man, multiple pages were used to show this, where in the anime a few seconds did the same job if not better.
 
I'm not sure though, are there more chapters than the ones posted on Mangapanda? Also as I mentioned before I get the feelings mangapanda is mising chapters, for example, Fubiki, she came second in the popularity post, but she's hardly been in any of the chapters so far, and she seems to be hanging out with Saitama allot now, it feels like I missed an arc that explains her popularitiy but I missed it somehow.Well except for her looks, she does look pretty badarse.

Here's the thing: the sites are doing a poor job on keeping tracks. It's the volume releases that actually keeps the order correctly. Like there's no real chapter 80s or whatever. Therefore, you're going to get lost many times.

Since you're using MP, yes, they did screw up and yes, there are missing side chapters, which explains why you feel lost. Actually, that magazine is crucial when it comes to side story. For example, Tokyo Ghoul:re has a side chapter yet MP didn't put it. However, that chapter is very much needed for the main story. I wouldn't say it's very much needed for OPM main plot, but it adds a lot of variety and there are stories that you can relate to and/or just great stuff.

As for visual action use in manga, to each of their own. Think as for anime wise, you can have crappy story and all, but if the animation is intense, all is forgiven. Well, OPM doesn't fall to that, but my actual point is that OPM satisfy that type of fans, where they want to see a moving visual presentation. In fact, you can find post at tumblr and it is pretty stunning. Something like that could make me forgive Bleach more but Kubo doesn't do that. Anyway, to each of their own.

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 09:56 PM

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Have you read the original webcomic?
It's the one with awful drawing.

I disagree with anime is better than manga. The manga win simply because of detail.

@phantom
Just because opm is great doesn't make superman is boring.
Don't take the superman hater seriously.

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 10:02 PM

@harrye
Have you read the original webcomic?
It's the one with awful drawing.

I disagree with anime is better than manga. The manga win simply because of detail.

@phantom
Just because opm is great doesn't make superman is boring.
Don't take the superman hater seriously.

I like that they have their own perks, so I don't really care what's more preferable. Both are great in their own ways.

Agreed about taking Superman hate into account.

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 10:17 PM

I like that they have their own perks, so I don't really care what's more preferable. Both are great in their own ways.

Agreed about taking Superman hate into account.

Exactly.

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 11:13 PM

@phantom
Just because opm is great doesn't make superman is boring.
Don't take the superman hater seriously.

 

Oh no I didn't mean Superman is boring, I was speaking about the double standards of those that hate superman and yet say comically invincible heroes like OPM are funny hilarious and gold. I was pointing out the mind set of those that think like that. Well my opinion of it at least


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Posted 11 November 2015 - 12:19 AM

@harrye
Have you read the original webcomic?
It's the one with awful drawing.

I disagree with anime is better than manga. The manga win simply because of detail.

@phantom
Just because opm is great doesn't make superman is boring.
Don't take the superman hater seriously.

 

The awful drawings were essentially why I didn't read it.

 

Normally I'd agree, Manga over Anime, I've had this discussion with my friends who feel the opposite it true, but in some cases I believe seeing the events animated has a bigger impact, One Punch Man, being such a case and to a certain extents Bleach was the same, I'm not saying the scenes don't look cool, but I feel they have a bigger impact when animated. Again using One Punch Man, the scene where they focus in on Saitama on the alien ship, they kept zooming in on him, and while it looked cool, by the time I scrolled past the images to get past all the zooming in, I was frustrated and just wanted to get on with it, and it's not like the chapters are that long, I'd say I finished reading the 83 chaptesr in under 3 hours, which for me is not long at all.

 

I watched the anime and manga on the same day, and felt the anime had a bigger impact.

 

Here's the thing: the sites are doing a poor job on keeping tracks. It's the volume releases that actually keeps the order correctly. Like there's no real chapter 80s or whatever. Therefore, you're going to get lost many times.

Since you're using MP, yes, they did screw up and yes, there are missing side chapters, which explains why you feel lost. Actually, that magazine is crucial when it comes to side story. For example, Tokyo Ghoul:re has a side chapter yet MP didn't put it. However, that chapter is very much needed for the main story. I wouldn't say it's very much needed for OPM main plot, but it adds a lot of variety and there are stories that you can relate to and/or just great stuff.

As for visual action use in manga, to each of their own. Think as for anime wise, you can have crappy story and all, but if the animation is intense, all is forgiven. Well, OPM doesn't fall to that, but my actual point is that OPM satisfy that type of fans, where they want to see a moving visual presentation. In fact, you can find post at tumblr and it is pretty stunning. Something like that could make me forgive Bleach more but Kubo doesn't do that. Anyway, to each of their own.

 

OK now i'm confused isn't OPM published in Jumps weekly publication? So who would the sites be doing a poor job of keeping them in order?

 

I don't 100% with the last part, if the story is crap doesn't matter how intense the animation is, a crappy story will stay crappy, classic example is Guilty Crown, it is to date one of the most visually pleasing animes I have seen, but the story was so dull and convoluted that I dropped it. though the opposite is also true, if the story is good but the animation and art direction is bad the anime will be ignored, an example of this is, Ultimate Otaku teacher, I loved the eary parts of this manga, but the anime studio did such a lousy job with the animation I couldn't get past the first few episodes.

 

OPM lends strongly to it's visual style, both in the anime and manga, if the main charactor was drawn as bland as he is is, and then the other heroes and enemies were not drawn on the complete opposite spectrum. it wouldn't have the same impact, It's the visual disparity that sells the manga, without it, the series would be amusing but would not recieve the same level of success it has seen. I'm not denying the art is not some of the best I've ever seen, but the way OPM leans towards it's visual presentation more than most for it's story telling, having it animated (at the level it has been so far) just makes more sense to me.


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Posted 11 November 2015 - 12:29 AM

 

The awful drawings were essentially why I didn't read it.

 

Normally I'd agree, Manga over Anime, I've had this discussion with my friends who feel the opposite it true, but in some cases I believe seeing the events animated has a bigger impact, One Punch Man, being such a case and to a certain extents Bleach was the same, I'm not saying the scenes don't look cool, but I feel they have a bigger impact when animated. Again using One Punch Man, the scene where they focus in on Saitama on the alien ship, they kept zooming in on him, and while it looked cool, by the time I scrolled past the images to get past all the zooming in, I was frustrated and just wanted to get on with it, and it's not like the chapters are that long, I'd say I finished reading the 83 chaptesr in under 3 hours, which for me is not long at all.

 

I watched the anime and manga on the same day, and felt the anime had a bigger impact.

 

 

OK now i'm confused isn't OPM published in Jumps weekly publication? So who would the sites be doing a poor job of keeping them in order?

 

I don't 100% with the last part, if the story is crap doesn't matter how intense the animation is, a crappy story will stay crappy, classic example is Guilty Crown, it is to date one of the most visually pleasing animes I have seen, but the story was so dull and convoluted that I dropped it. though the opposite is also true, if the story is good but the animation and art direction is bad the anime will be ignored, an example of this is, Ultimate Otaku teacher, I loved the eary parts of this manga, but the anime studio did such a lousy job with the animation I couldn't get past the first few episodes.

 

OPM lends strongly to it's visual style, both in the anime and manga, if the main charactor was drawn as bland as he is is, and then the other heroes and enemies were not drawn on the complete opposite spectrum. it wouldn't have the same impact, It's the visual disparity that sells the manga, without it, the series would be amusing but would not recieve the same level of success it has seen. I'm not denying the art is not some of the best I've ever seen, but the way OPM leans towards it's visual presentation more than most for it's story telling, having it animated (at the level it has been so far) just makes more sense to me.

Oh I am not the one to forgive the series just because animation is good. There are, however, people out there that will completely ignore the negative or acknowledge it but rub it in strongly to others. I think they are Sakuga fans if I recall correctly. They're the one that will overly praise the animation, which leads to praise the anime to be among the best by default.



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Posted 22 November 2015 - 08:30 PM

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Hype for next episode

 

 

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Posted 22 November 2015 - 10:23 PM

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Hype for next episode
 
 
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Posted 26 November 2015 - 09:20 PM

comically Invincible Hero. Apparently being invincible for the sake of comedy is great,  but being invincible for the sake of drama gets boring. Don't ask me why, trying to reason double standards is a trap I'd like to avoid cause all it does is cause madness and burn out brain cells. Not saying that this series is not great or anything I've read some of the chapters and think they are hilarious if a bit repetitive but yeah I can't say why this is gold but Superman's stories are boring. Well I suppose that is just the typical reaction if you've seen something enough. Trust me, one day when something with the exact same premise as this comes out people will show the exact same sentiments as superman, although maybe they enjoy this cause it's not meant to be taken seriously. :shrug:

I just find it to be a massive double standard. More often than not, the people that keep saying "Superman is boring" are the same people who have never read a single Superman comic ever and only ever read maybe Batman at most. The Flash is ever more broken than Superman with the Speed force practically allowing him to do anything he wanted, but again noone says anything about this. It is really weird.

By the way I thought about something and I wanted to share.

 

Take the image below and add this to it.

"In the Year 2015, the anime industry as we know it was falling apart. What was once a great means of story telling ended up becoming a means of wish fulfillment for an otaku fanbase. Left and right the older shonen heroes fell to cliche and mediocrity. The fans were screaming for a hero. A hero who could stand up and not fall for the stereotypical means to be a great anime. When all hope seemed lost....they called.....him."
 

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Hype for next episode

 

 

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 10:43 PM

Yeah i agree I don't get it either.

 

I FINALLY GET IT.

One Punch Man.

OP Man

Over Powered Man.

I feel so stupid for not getting it before, but now it makes sense.

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I have to ask though, I thought people hated overpowered superheroes because "they were boring and never needed to struggle." I mean, people talk bad about Superman all the time saying how is is too broken and boring because he never struggles and yet, here is One Punch man who basically is one of the most powerful anime characters of all time, has been shown to only use maybe ten percent of his power, and never struggles or trains like that of say Goku in DBZ and yet everyone seems to love this series. Why?

It makes me really wonder if the hate Superman gets is not really because they truly think he is too broken and boring, but rather they hate how he is the most popular hero of the DC universe just hate him because it is a trend. "All the cool kids hate him." I also notice that alot of hate Superman gets is from people who have never read a Superman comic in their life and once they read them....change their views more often than not.

I have to say, it is a bit hypocritical of fans to hate Superman for too much power, but love One Punch man for the same thing.
 

 

MUST be this. People do tend to hate what's popular.


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Posted 30 November 2015 - 12:31 AM

I like Superman, but Supes story was never about his power, it's about how he handles his power and the consequences of his decisions, it's serious and with a fair dose of drama

 

 

OPM is a bit different, it's a major parody of most shounens, the protagonist  is OP from the beginning and the thing he desires the most is a typical shounen fight

 

 

About today's episode

 

 

damn I never thought this guy would turn out to be such a huge badass

 

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the feels dude, I didn't expect those feels to hit me that hard

 

OPM keeps surprising me with each new episode


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Posted 30 November 2015 - 12:50 AM

I like Superman, but Supes story was never about his power, it's about how he handles his power and the consequences of his decisions, it's serious and with a fair dose of drama
 
 
OPM is a bit different, it's a major parody of most shounens, the protagonist  is OP from the beginning and the thing he desires the most is a typical shounen fight
 
 
About today's episode
 
 
damn I never thought this guy would turn out to be such a huge badass
 
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the feels dude, I didn't expect those feels to hit me that hard
 
OPM keeps surprising me with each new episode

And that's why I praise this greatly. Writing at work.




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