Orochimaru didnt wanted to train to obtain the senjutsu, he wanted to obtain it though inheritance, he wanted his own body to absorb natural chakra naturally without having to stop and having to focus.
Where was this stated? Kabuto mentioned that Orochimaru ventured to Ryuchidou in the effort to train before the issue of bodily compatilibty was brought up. The Curse Mark only became a veritable option for him once he discovered that he would be unable to handle the training. If you what you say is true then he would have already assimilated into Juugo's body.
The seal has any connections with the sage mode, Hashirama doesnt have it.
I'm getting the distinct impression that you didn't review all of the information provided that attests to the contrary. The similar designs of the markings, familiar abilities which don't require the usage of any handseals, and the reference to Hashirama when Byakugou was used. No actual confirmations have been made but it's fairly obvious that these two techniques carry striking similarities with the other. Nevermind the spiritual implications both have with the Urna.
I wish she would have the senjutsu but it's inconsistent.
It isn't really. Not with the connections made and the fact that Tsunade is intended to represent the character from the Goketsu Monogatari folktale. In it she learned what's referred to as slug magic, just as Orochimaru and Jiraiya acquired snake and frog magic. Magic, in reference to the Naruto universe, apparently means natural energy and various schools of senjutsu existing.
thinking about it there are certain asspulls or inconsitencies when it comes to Hashirama and Tobirama. Tobirama with an ability similar to the one Minato has and Hashirama with sage mode.
Not exactly. IIRC Tobirama was stated to have been a practitioner of Space-Time ninjutsu in P1. For him to have an understanding of Hiraishin isn't outside the realm of possibility, especially when you consider that many of the jutsu in the Naruto universe are being ascribed to the Sage of Six Paths or his descendants in some way. What I found odd were those three bodyguards' of the Hokage and their ability to somehow use FTG. I don't recall anyone making any complaints against that.
Tobirama noted the similarity between Hashirama and Naruto,
Tobirama has been fighting against the Uchiha alongside Hashirama throughout his entire life. It's logical to assume that he would have at one point seen his brother utilising the skills which are a source for part of his legendary status. Since that time he probably didn't come across any other senjutsu user until Naruto. To him it was reminiscent of the battles they once waged together.
but also Madara noted similarities between Tsunade and Hashirama regarding his healing abilities. Thign is those 2 are different abilities.
Apart from the markings and the confirmed enhancements given by Sage Mode in general, what distinctions are there? They hold the same religious symbolism and similar regenerative abilities. Moreover they're both the products of individuals derived from the Senju bloodline.
No connection between snake senjutsu and the Curse Mark ever existed until roughly 90% into the manga when Kabuto finally explained the origins behind the user's miraculous increase in stamina, might, and ability in general. Until that point it just seemed like an ambiguously defined source of power. Who is to say that it may not be the same for Slug Sage Mode and the Yin Seal?
The only thing is that Sage modes have a certain restorative power on the body. One could be exhausted even hurt and going in sage mode may restore some of his strength.
Hashirama's Sage Mode was notable for restoring any injuries he may have incurred. Whenever Naruto would enter Sage Mode, there was very little difference in his appearance apart from the markings around his eyes. The restorative effects of frog senjutsu weren't nearly as apparent as Hashirama's.
Hashirama's DNA also has the added advantage of also healing any wounds,
Where was this stated? I only recall Madara referencing that Hashirama was capable of healing himself without the need for any handseals. You'll need to provide a chapter and page number that shows the panels detailing this.
so the instance where we saw Hashirama healing himself is because of Sage modes restorative ability that probably restored Hashirama's body in order to heal himself of those minor wounds.
Yes, and the fundamentals behind that Sage Mode's capacity to heal may have been used in the making of the Yin Seal. Provided his Sage Mode is indeed Slug based, and the slugs' abilities have been shown to be based around restoration and resilience, then it would appear that Hashirama and Tsunade both draw upon the same source for their abilities. Katsuyu stated that its powers were interconnected with Tsunade's Byakugou.
As for Sakura and Tsunade, thou none of them entered Sage mode they did use abilities in conjunction with Katsuyu and it looks that the animals use natural chakra like humans use their own chakra. So they may be familiar with senjutsu, or even those abilities may be a "bootleg" senjutsu the only problem is that it uses a lot of the users chakra.
So basically you're just restating the context of the original post. That Sakura and Tsunade both share a fuinjutsu with properties of Sage Mode which is reminiscent of the Curse Seal.
Edited by Atheck, 25 August 2013 - 04:17 PM.
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