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[Mistraal]

Maybe Kurama meant it as a threat. Like "You will regret it." Like Kurama and the other Bijuu will retaliate.

 

Idk just an idea. >.>

[TouKen4Life3g]

Maybe Kurama meant it as a threat. Like "You will regret it." Like Kurama and the other Bijuu will retaliate.
 
Idk just an idea. >.>

Hm....I still don't know. Can they all communicate telepathy?

[ramenanmitsu]

If Naruto dies and gets revived again, you can't deny that his character must have been based on Jesus Christ. 

 

Putting that aside, I wonder how the characters are gonna act if Naruto dies. 

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 29 June 2013 - 12:02 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

If Naruto dies and gets revived again, you can't deny that his character must have been based on Jesus Christ. 

I thought Nagato was.

You know his dehydrated state.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 29 June 2013 - 12:01 AM.

[Gravenimage]

If Naruto dies and gets revived again, you can't deny that his character must have been based on Jesus Christ. 

 

Putting that aside, I wonder how the characters are gonna act if Naruto dies. 

 

Honestly I don't know what to say about this.

[ramenanmitsu]

I thought Nagato was.

You know his dehydrated state.

Actually you're right. 

Jesus died shouldering the sin of the people. Making himself suffer instead.  Nagato fits the description more right now. 

 

I thought it was Naruto because of his "Jesus No Jutsu" 

 

@Gravenimage

Why I lead to that idea was thoughtful but not serious. Basically, I was just joking but got surprised myself because the resemblance was uncanny. Regardless, it's still a joke. 

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 29 June 2013 - 12:23 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Actually you're right. 

Jesus died shouldering the sin of the people. Making himself suffer instead.  Nagato fits the description more right now. 

 

I thought it was Naruto because of his "Jesus No Jutsu" 

 

@Gravenimage

Why I lead to that idea was thoughtful but not serious. Basically, I was just joking but got surprised myself because the resemblance was uncanny. Regardless, it's still a joke. 

the only thing that i did not understood on Nagato is that he was capable of bringing back Yahiko but never did.

[Gravenimage]

Actually you're right. 

Jesus died shouldering the sin of the people. Making himself suffer instead.  Nagato fits the description more right now. 

 

I thought it was Naruto because of his "Jesus No Jutsu" 

 

@Gravenimage

Why I lead to that idea was thoughtful but not serious. Basically, I was just joking but got surprised myself because the resemblance was uncanny. Regardless, it's still a joke. 

 

Oh I get it lol.

[Verilance]

If Naruto dies and gets revived again, you can't deny that his character must have been based on Jesus Christ. 

 

Putting that aside, I wonder how the characters are gonna act if Naruto dies. 

 

actually he is just based on the "hero"

 

the hero myth is a lot older than Christ and always follows a few basic patterns

 

such as

 

the hero has an uncertain birth (sometimes believed to be divine)

 

the hero has an older mentor who must die before the hero can attain true power

 

and so on

Edited by Verilance, 29 June 2013 - 12:48 AM.

[Mistraal]

Am I the only one who doesn't care if there is a Jesus allegory?

[Atheck]

I think we completely forgot about a minor detail regarding Tobi. Currently he's suffering from a fatal wound to his chest area and Madara is wresting control over the rest of his body so he can use Rinne Tensei. It's obvious that he is probably wishing that he could escape the situation that he's in. Well he does have one method which I can't believe hasn't been brought up yet. That method is Izanagi. Remember that Tobi implemented Izanagi as a counteracting fail-safe against Itachi's Amatersu which he implanted into Sasuke's Sharingan and later during his battle with Konan he used it once again in order to protect himself from Karin's six hundred billion paper tags technique.

 

Izanagi is essentially a reality-warping genjutsu capable of returning a person to a previous state of being with the same process as the Sot6P's ability. It's pretty much a watered down variant of Banbutsu Sozo but the potency of the jutsu is still very impressive and right now it would really help Tobi to get out of this pinch that he's in. Yes, he would have to sacrifice his original Mangekyo Sharingan but I believe that's a price he would be willing to assume if it resulted in his survival and the possible continuation of his ambitions.

 

So does anyone here have any thoughts as to why Tobi hasn't activated Izanagi yet?

[TouKen4Life3g]

You know, is Juubi ready? Because it seems like it's not yet. I think Madara have to force to go to plan because Obito is dying. Otherwise, why not just hold longer? I guess he was going to take advantage of his unlimited, but it must be done. So yeah, looks like Madara is gambling this.

[Dkey]

I think we completely forgot about a minor detail regarding Tobi. Currently he's suffering from a fatal wound to his chest area and Madara is wresting control over the rest of his body so he can use Rinne Tensei. It's obvious that he is probably wishing that he could escape the situation that he's in. Well he does have one method which I can't believe hasn't been brought up yet. That method is Izanagi. Remember that Tobi implemented Izanagi as a counteracting fail-safe against Itachi's Amatersu which he implanted into Sasuke's Sharingan and later during his battle with Konan he used it once again in order to protect himself from Karin's six hundred billion paper tags technique.
 
Izanagi is essentially a reality-warping genjutsu capable of returning a person to a previous state of being with the same process as the Sot6P's ability. It's pretty much a watered down variant of Banbutsu Sozo but the potency of the jutsu is still very impressive and right now it would really help Tobi to get out of this pinch that he's in. Yes, he would have to sacrifice his original Mangekyo Sharingan but I believe that's a price he would be willing to assume if it resulted in his survival and the possible continuation of his ambitions.
 
So does anyone here have any thoughts as to why Tobi hasn't activated Izanagi yet?

There are 2 logical answers.

1. He didn't get to activate it before half his gace was covered in black witch I assume is the means that Madara is using to control him Not sure thou if he lost control over his eye or not. Maybe his left part of the brain controls his sharingan eye.


2. He will actually use it but it will be shown next chapter. Judging by the Rin panels and the preview he may sacrifice an eye to buy time to activate the moon eye plan.

[Atheck]

There are 2 logical answers.

1. He didn't get to activate it before half his gace was covered in black witch I assume is the means that Madara is using to control him Not sure thou if he lost control over his eye or not. Maybe his left part of the brain controls his sharingan eye.


2. He will actually use it but it will be shown next chapter. Judging by the Rin panels and the preview he may sacrifice an eye to buy time to activate the moon eye plan.

 

Those explanations make sense. If memory serves, the segment of his body that's being consumed by Madara's essence does contain his Sharingan. He may not be able to properly control it although if he can perhaps the reasoning for his inability to activate it at the moment could be attributed to the emotionally unstable temperament he's in currently. Tobi is probably not thinking clearly at the moment since his life's work, the entire reason for his existence, is crumbling around him from his perspective. Or there's the other suggestion that he does intend to use it but it will only be in the next chapter. That would make sense and it would ensure that the other Sharingan eye cannot fall into the wrong hands albeit it would be interesting to have Tobi offer his other Sharingan eye to Kakashi as a memento of atonement.

 

Kakashi with EMS would be a formidable character to have. Especially if he could intermix elements of Tobi's partial phasing strategy and projectile materalisation with his long ranged teleportation.

[Hiraishin]

I think we completely forgot about a minor detail regarding Tobi. Currently he's suffering from a fatal wound to his chest area and Madara is wresting control over the rest of his body so he can use Rinne Tensei. It's obvious that he is probably wishing that he could escape the situation that he's in. Well he does have one method which I can't believe hasn't been brought up yet. That method is Izanagi. Remember that Tobi implemented Izanagi as a counteracting fail-safe against Itachi's Amatersu which he implanted into Sasuke's Sharingan and later during his battle with Konan he used it once again in order to protect himself from Karin's six hundred billion paper tags technique.
 
Izanagi is essentially a reality-warping genjutsu capable of returning a person to a previous state of being with the same process as the Sot6P's ability. It's pretty much a watered down variant of Banbutsu Sozo but the potency of the jutsu is still very impressive and right now it would really help Tobi to get out of this pinch that he's in. Yes, he would have to sacrifice his original Mangekyo Sharingan but I believe that's a price he would be willing to assume if it resulted in his survival and the possible continuation of his ambitions.
 
So does anyone here have any thoughts as to why Tobi hasn't activated Izanagi yet?

Because Obito (and a lot of other characters, really) tends to forget all the abilities/jutsu he has at his disposal.

But yeah, it's probably what Dkey said. His Sharingan was consumed by the blackness, so maybe he can't use it anymore, or he'll use it next chapter. Plus, like you said, he's in emotional turmoil right now, so he probably didn't think to use it at first... Maybe later.

[T XD]

You know, is Juubi ready? Because it seems like it's not yet. I think Madara have to force to go to plan because Obito is dying. Otherwise, why not just hold longer? I guess he was going to take advantage of his unlimited, but it must be done. So yeah, looks like Madara is gambling this.

You mean the Juubi's final transformation ? I think it will but not yet as you said. The story is now going to be focused on Obito and Madara and some other characters.

 

I think Madara has always had a plan on his own that Obito doesn't know of. The guy is processing the plan that he wants by his own and Obito, as it seems, is just a puppet to use him and help him. Madara wants everything and anything to go his way.

Edited by T XD, 29 June 2013 - 12:34 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

You mean the Juubi's final transformation ? I think it will but not yet as you said. The story is now going to be focused on Obito and Madara and some other characters.
 
I think Madara has always had a plan on his own that Obito doesn't know of. The guy is processing the plan that he wants by his own and Obito, as it seems, is just a puppet to use him and help him. Madara wants everything and anything to go his way.

Looks that way. It's just that I think Madara was going to do it later, but again, Obito is dying, so Madara was annoyed that he couldn't stay god-like to fight Hashirama, but if Juubi is ready, so as he. If Juubi isn't ready, I feel like it can backfire because he's Madara with limitation, so you pretty much can end him.

[T XD]

Looks that way. It's just that I think Madara was going to do it later, but again, Obito is dying, so Madara was annoyed that he couldn't stay god-like to fight Hashirama, but if Juubi is ready, so as he. If Juubi isn't ready, I feel like it can backfire because he's Madara with limitation, so you pretty much can end him.

Well, the Juubi is a big part of his plan. But, I think Madara can handle himself without the Juubi as in later not now. I can see in the future that Juubi will be taken down and all is left is Madara. Though if Obito will still be alive after what Madara did to him, I think Obito will have a role in making Madara's plan weaker or maybe something we're not expecting and didn't come a thought about it in our head.

 

Now I'm leaning more that Obito may die for good, but still pending and not for sure about this XD

Edited by T XD, 29 June 2013 - 01:47 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, the Juubi is a big part of his plan. But, I think Madara can handle himself without the Juubi as in later not now. I can see in the future that Juubi will be taken down and all is left is Madara. Though if Obito will still be alive after what Madara did to him, I think Obito will have a role in making Madara's plan weaker or maybe something we're not expecting and didn't come a thought about it in our head.
 
Now I'm leaning more that Obito may die for good, but still pending and not for sure about this XD

He can handle himself, but if he stays Edo, he can fight forever, or at least do as much as damage. Now if he goes human without going Jinchuuriki, well he can do well but chakra limit and death is now an option rather than go all out happy like he was doing. So again, annoyed that he was dying and couldn't have fun as Edo, but now must do it now. Obito needs to sacrifice to do the jutsu, so yeah, time to die. Not sure how it will go down, but it's going to be a very interesting one.

[sushi.]

I wonder how human Madara can become the Juubi's jinchuuriki.

 

Even the Kyuubi needs a Uzumaki stamina monster.

 

His body shouldn't be able to hold the power.