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[tricksie]

James, DO NOT bash other members of this community. No one did anything to you. EVERYONE has a right to express their opinion here, regardless of how they feel about this chapter or the whole manga. Bashing, however is not tolerated.

[K9ofChaos]

First of all let me say thanks to Codus, Alexander, Don-kun, and everyone else who decided to UTTERLY AND SELFISHLY destroy everyone's excitement. I am so glad you guys are here to suck all the fun out of this forum. You guys are probably the number one reason why I don't want to come back here anymore. You purposely do everything in YOUR power to push everyone on the ground and kick them repeatedly over and over again. Flexing your mind muscles to the point of almost saying only your opinion matters and if anyone counter's you you call them foolish or delusional.

Thank you. From the very bottom of my heart, thank you for trying to ruin the moment.

I don't care if I get a warning for this because I am tired of it. I get pushed down all the time all because I am optimistic about something? All because I am happy about some thing that happens in the manga. How dare anyone else find enjoyment out of this. How dare I am happy about this. And all you have to say for yourselves is "I am entitled to my opinion." Well, honestly, I guess I am too entitled to my opinion and my opinion is is that I am sick and tired of your negativity and the constant times of pushing everyone down who wants to be positive or who finds happiness in this.

This is for you.

video --Click here to view--

As for the rest of you: "Expect a SS moment" In what way? Do you expect Sakura to just be so happy Sasuke comes back that she falls into his arms or something? I don't see any SS moment happening at all. I see a Sakura and Sasuke interaction as expected, but nothing pairing related. I could say "Expect a SasuNaru moment to happen" and it would be true. This context thing needs to be cleared up.

What if it is an Anti-SS moment, is that not a positive thing? What about a Pro-NS moment where Sakura fights Sasuke for Naruto's sake? When I see the words "SS moment" I see something pairing related, but just a simple interaction is not a "SS moment." Do you think Sasuke attempting to stab Sakura a SS moment?

Really and why is Sakura thinking about Sasuke (in a negative light) a SS moment, but if Sakura thinks of Naruto it is nothing? Why can't that be a NS moment? "It's not like the hand holding scene." You're right, Naruto actually loves Sakura. It is nothing alike and Sakura isn't a selfish girl who only thinks of herself. Hinata loving Naruto is business as usual, but again some of you think of this is "something new." Naruto didn't even respond to the hand holding at all and in fact is still ignoring it to this very moment. Come on. That is not a NH moment if Naruto thought nothing of it. There is no "N" in there. It was just "H" and nothing more and notice how that moment has been ignored and never brought up again. As they say, "Business as usual."

"Well, They are in the middle of battle." I see this so many dang times where people use this as an excuse, but when a supposed "NH moment" happens they contradict the statement by saying "There is always time for romance." Screw that. Pick one and stick with it. Stop with the flipping. I don't care what side you are on, just pick one.

For me, I loved this chapter. It has been the only chapter that didn't feel rushed nor forced. It felt right for once. It felt like natural progression and we know it will lead up to something important. I know it will. I have said many of times when I expect things to occur. I am happy that Kishi has Sakura remained the same as she was. She is not thinking of Sasuke right now, she is thinking of Naruto and IN FACT, is almost a reflection of chapter 573. I know this is leading to something big. I know it is.

For those that say, "Buuuuuttt Jaaaames, we have been waiting forevuuuuur. I want Sakura doing something nooooow." Stop whining. We could have more of those "NH scenes" you keep predicting, but we haven't. We have gotten something much better. I hope I am not disappoint either, but I feel like I won't be. I have a good feeling. I won't let the negativity of some members ruin my experience because you didn't get exactly what you wanted.

Oh BTW, "You need to raised your standards of heroine." Oh really? Maybe you should really look up the idea of "heroine" in the first place because she doesn't necessary have to beat the bad guy. Sometimes all she has to do is save the one who matters most right when he needs it. You should know this. I mean, you keep saying Hinata is the true heroine when she really hasn't beaten Obito or Madara.

To answer anyone's question: Yes I am utterly pissed off, but not at the manga. Oh no. I am pissed off at everyone who purposely goes out of their way to just destroy everyone's hope. Congrats, you are no better than Obito himself and in fact reflect him.

Warn me if you want, mods. Ban me if you need to, but I am just tired of every single week whenever I have a good feeling about something I have to be beaten down for it. I never realized that being positive was against the rules of this forum. I never realized that being happy with something was against the rules. I know someone here is going to say "Well, it's not against the rules to be unhappy either." True, but I am not trying to go out of my way to make you happy. I am not trying to force you to be happy and trying to make you feel stupid for not doing so. Some of you try to intimidate people in making them feel what you want them to feel. "How dare this chapter make you happy."

You have the privilege to your opinion, but it seem like to you no one is privileged to theirs. To you, no one is allowed to feel happy or content with the manga. No one is allowed to be happy about Sakura this chapter.

I am happy for this chapter. I am very happy. I think this chapter is better than the last one.

I completely agree with you. You've just summed up the atmosphere of this specific thread perfectly. Well done good sir.

[James S Cassidy]

James, DO NOT bash other members of this community. No one did anything to you. EVERYONE has a right to express their opinion here, regardless of how they feel about this chapter or the whole manga. Bashing, however is not tolerated.

Then give me a warning, Tricksie, I don't care.

What I said needed to be said. I am entitled to my opinion too.

[tricksie]

Then give me a warning, Tricksie, I don't care.

What I said needed to be said. I am entitled to my opinion too.

You can check your pm. This is not about your opinion, this is about bashing.

[James S Cassidy]

You can check your pm.

Thank you.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Then give me a warning, Tricksie, I don't care.

What I said needed to be said. I am entitled to my opinion too.

i respect your's and my complaint about this chapter is about Naruto.
He made 611 ~ 617 useless chapters and wasted development.

I can pick all those chapters and ignore then on this chapter Naruto proved Obito's point while insisting he was right, he didnt redeemed Obito and didnt even managed to show him or at least give an opening.

Like i said i can ignore 611,612,613,614,615,616 and 617 and nothing of value will be lost.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 23 April 2013 - 09:11 PM.

[StriderC]

I'm not even sure I want to continue to post on the chapter thread anymore because there's DEFINITELY a divide here, and that divide stems from the members of this forum. Could the divide be avoided? Heck yeah, it could but it's not. I'm just gonna fall back from these discussions and have them with a couple of people that I can actually throw my opinion at without being criticized because it doesn't match theirs. This is just flat out ridiculous, and I truly think I'm done here.

[James S Cassidy]

I'm not even sure I want to continue to post on the chapter thread anymore because there's DEFINITELY a divide here, and that divide stems from the members of this forum. Could the divide be avoided? Heck yeah, it could but it's not. I'm just gonna fall back from these discussions and have them with a couple of people that I can actually throw my opinion at without being criticized because it doesn't match theirs. This is just flat out ridiculous, and I truly think I'm done here.

You got my skype right, Strider? I would like to have you on the podcast when the time comes.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 23 April 2013 - 09:18 PM.

[redragon88]

I think the reason Kishi didn't focus on Sakura in chapters 616 and 617 is because the first thing he wanted to show about Sakura reacting to Naruto's chakra transfer abilities is that it could strain him. But the atmosphere of 616 and 617 wasn't the right one to portray those problems since it was meant to focus on the positives of Naruto's new transfer powers.

Now that the advantages to the kyuubi shield have been established we can start focusing on the disadvantages that can potentially cause Naruto, and thus enters Sakura, the most fitting person to worry over such issues and also the one who could potentially offer a solution since she's a medic nin.

[StriderC]

You got my skype right, Strider? I would like to have you on the podcast when the time comes.

Oh? Lol why's that?

[Saku-chan]

I think the reason Kishi didn't focus on Sakura in chapters 616 and 617 is because the first thing he wanted to show about Sakura reacting to Naruto's chakra transfer abilities is that it could strain him. But the atmosphere of 616 and 617 wasn't the right one to portray those problems since it was meant to focus on the positives of Naruto's new transfer powers.

Now that the advantages to the kyuubi shield have been established we can start focusing on the disadvantages that can potentially cause Naruto, and thus enters Sakura, the most fitting person to worry over such issues and also the one who could potentially offer a solution since she's a medic nin.

I agree. I was so glad when she worried about him because she is the one who knows how the 9-tails chakra affects him the best. <3 I also liked the Shannaro. >w< I was pretty satisfied this chapter.

[Living Lavish]

First of all let me say thanks to Codus, Alexander, Don-kun, and everyone else who decided to UTTERLY AND SELFISHLY destroy everyone's excitement. I am so glad you guys are here to suck all the fun out of this forum. You guys are probably the number one reason why I don't want to come back here anymore. You purposely do everything in YOUR power to push everyone on the ground and kick them repeatedly over and over again. Flexing your mind muscles to the point of almost saying only your opinion matters and if anyone counter's you you call them foolish or delusional.

Thank you. From the very bottom of my heart, thank you for trying to ruin the moment.

I don't care if I get a warning for this because I am tired of it. I get pushed down all the time all because I am optimistic about something? All because I am happy about some thing that happens in the manga. How dare anyone else find enjoyment out of this. How dare I am happy about this. And all you have to say for yourselves is "I am entitled to my opinion." Well, honestly, I guess I am too entitled to my opinion and my opinion is is that I am sick and tired of your negativity and the constant times of pushing everyone down who wants to be positive or who finds happiness in this.

This is for you.

video --Click here to view--

As for the rest of you: "Expect a SS moment" In what way? Do you expect Sakura to just be so happy Sasuke comes back that she falls into his arms or something? I don't see any SS moment happening at all. I see a Sakura and Sasuke interaction as expected, but nothing pairing related. I could say "Expect a SasuNaru moment to happen" and it would be true. This context thing needs to be cleared up.

What if it is an Anti-SS moment, is that not a positive thing? What about a Pro-NS moment where Sakura fights Sasuke for Naruto's sake? When I see the words "SS moment" I see something pairing related, but just a simple interaction is not a "SS moment." Do you think Sasuke attempting to stab Sakura a SS moment?

Really and why is Sakura thinking about Sasuke (in a negative light) a SS moment, but if Sakura thinks of Naruto it is nothing? Why can't that be a NS moment? "It's not like the hand holding scene." You're right, Naruto actually loves Sakura. It is nothing alike and Sakura isn't a selfish girl who only thinks of herself. Hinata loving Naruto is business as usual, but again some of you think of this is "something new." Naruto didn't even respond to the hand holding at all and in fact is still ignoring it to this very moment. Come on. That is not a NH moment if Naruto thought nothing of it. There is no "N" in there. It was just "H" and nothing more and notice how that moment has been ignored and never brought up again. As they say, "Business as usual."

"Well, They are in the middle of battle." I see this so many dang times where people use this as an excuse, but when a supposed "NH moment" happens they contradict the statement by saying "There is always time for romance." Screw that. Pick one and stick with it. Stop with the flipping. I don't care what side you are on, just pick one.

For me, I loved this chapter. It has been the only chapter that didn't feel rushed nor forced. It felt right for once. It felt like natural progression and we know it will lead up to something important. I know it will. I have said many of times when I expect things to occur. I am happy that Kishi has Sakura remained the same as she was. She is not thinking of Sasuke right now, she is thinking of Naruto and IN FACT, is almost a reflection of chapter 573. I know this is leading to something big. I know it is.

For those that say, "Buuuuuttt Jaaaames, we have been waiting forevuuuuur. I want Sakura doing something nooooow." Stop whining. We could have more of those "NH scenes" you keep predicting, but we haven't. We have gotten something much better. I hope I am not disappoint either, but I feel like I won't be. I have a good feeling. I won't let the negativity of some members ruin my experience because you didn't get exactly what you wanted.

Oh BTW, "You need to raised your standards of heroine." Oh really? Maybe you should really look up the idea of "heroine" in the first place because she doesn't necessary have to beat the bad guy. Sometimes all she has to do is save the one who matters most right when he needs it. You should know this. I mean, you keep saying Hinata is the true heroine when she really hasn't beaten Obito or Madara.

To answer anyone's question: Yes I am utterly pissed off, but not at the manga. Oh no. I am pissed off at everyone who purposely goes out of their way to just destroy everyone's hope. Congrats, you are no better than Obito himself and in fact reflect him.

Warn me if you want, mods. Ban me if you need to, but I am just tired of every single week whenever I have a good feeling about something I have to be beaten down for it. I never realized that being positive was against the rules of this forum. I never realized that being happy with something was against the rules. I know someone here is going to say "Well, it's not against the rules to be unhappy either." True, but I am not trying to go out of my way to make you happy. I am not trying to force you to be happy and trying to make you feel stupid for not doing so. Some of you try to intimidate people in making them feel what you want them to feel. "How dare this chapter make you happy."

You have the privilege to your opinion, but it seem like to you no one is privileged to theirs. To you, no one is allowed to feel happy or content with the manga. No one is allowed to be happy about Sakura this chapter.

I am happy for this chapter. I am very happy. I think this chapter is better than the last one.

WOW! Ether.

100% agree.

[James S Cassidy]

Oh? Lol why's that?

You're one of the few I have respect in to give a good opinion.

[Living Lavish]

I'm not even sure I want to continue to post on the chapter thread anymore because there's DEFINITELY a divide here, and that divide stems from the members of this forum. Could the divide be avoided? Heck yeah, it could but it's not. I'm just gonna fall back from these discussions and have them with a couple of people that I can actually throw my opinion at without being criticized because it doesn't match theirs. This is just flat out ridiculous, and I truly think I'm done here.

Dude dont be a cry baby. you can have you're opinion nobodys stoping you are calling you names.. people have agreed with you have they not? just stoping being negative.

I have a good feeling about this chapter... Finally NS incoming? lets wait and see..

[Phantom_999]

Looks like my message did not get across. And I put so much thought into it. *sigh* Oh well. Anyways I overall enjoyed the Sakura moment. Did I want her to measure up to that Hinata development all the way back tot the end of last year to the beginning of this year? YES. but I won't complain until I see where this is going for now

Edited by Phantom_999, 23 April 2013 - 09:30 PM.

[Dkey]

Some like the chapter some don't. We are taught that it's good to say what you are thinking yet afterwards we attack each other because of said opinions. Thing is even thou you express your opinion your feelings are transmitted and if it's negative brings people down.

Ironically the only solution is to not express that opinion but it goes against the purpose of this forum.

I just hope thou that if pessimists managed to bring down optimists with their posts then optimists managed to cheer up some pessimists so things can even out.

[NinjaMedic]

well, on a lighter note... NH-ers seem to be making connections between narutos, 'maybe i'm being selfish' line with the hinatas confession in the pein arc... O.o

[Shadow1275]

I wonder if Naruto said or did anything special with Sakura for their chakra transfer moment? Maybe that's why Kishi held back. Either way, because Sakura is the only person who sees that Naruto is reaching his limit. This sets her up for something. And we still have the non-zombie Kages. I hate all of these consecutive breaks.

As for Sakura, c'mon it's the first chapter for a volume. There's no way that Sakura would have a super development moment in the first chapter. We just have to wait and see

Edited by Shadow1275, 23 April 2013 - 09:42 PM.

[Saku-chan]

If anyone throws around more rants or comments about other members in this thread, I will close it.

You are entitled to share your opinion of the chapter, but this is not a venue for you to call other members names. Both sides of this argument have had people agree with them.

For those who say others are being too positive:
Not every chapter has to be an in your face NS moment. I am fully prepared for Naruto to end without NS, but that doesn't stop me from hoping for good things. It might seem delusional, but this is a work of fiction. I am reading it for fun and I will have fun no matter what. Even though Sakura made one comment and said Shannaro, I was happy.

For those who say others are being too negative:
People are human. We get frustrated. A lot of us want NS really badly and are saddened when Sakura doesn't get the focus a lot of us want her to get. Sometimes we prepare for the 'worst' (some pairing that interferes with NS) so that we don't jinx ourselves. We don't know what Kishi is going to write and it could really be ANYTHING.

Agree to disagree. Walk away if you aren't getting anywhere. Almost all of us want NS to happen. Let's not forget that.

[Phantom_999]

Some like the chapter some don't. We are taught that it's good to say what you are thinking yet afterwards we attack each other because of said opinions. Thing is even thou you express your opinion your feelings are transmitted and if it's negative brings people down.

Ironically the only solution is to not express that opinion but it goes against the purpose of this forum.

I just hope thou that if pessimists managed to bring down optimists with their posts then optimists managed to cheer up some pessimists so things can even out.

I agree

well, on a lighter note... NH-ers seem to be making connections between narutos, 'maybe i'm being selfish' line with the hinatas confession in the pein arc... O.o

Well the fact that she HAPPENED to be on the panel where he said that raises eye-brows to be honest. However it does have a connection, cause it's pretty much the same situation.

But Sakura can still have a better development than the one Hinata had at 615 we just have to be patient and wait. For all we know Sasuke might not enter the battle he might be keeping an eye on Orochimaru (since I'm pretty sure he doesn't trust him). The ones who will enter the battlefield are no doubt the Hokages. That can take two chapters for them to arrive. Plus I have a feeling Kishi is going to switch to Kakashi and Obito and their fight might take 3-4 chapters.

I do not deny that. but again we'll have to see

Edited by Phantom_999, 23 April 2013 - 09:53 PM.