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#33901 FaceLess

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Posted 27 September 2014 - 02:35 PM

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@ faceless: just dont give up buddy. There are many ways to get NS back on track again. Kishi hasnt done that to hurt NS fans or support SS fans. He is just tring to find a solution and i think he has got something in his mind. As i have said manytimes before. As far as i know kishi's writing he has always done something surprising and unexpected. So we ll just have to wait a bit more

 

I just don't like how Sakura confessed to Sasuke right in front of Naruto, he was there for her and he was there for Kakashi too, but Kakashi outright supported her feelings for Sasuke. I understand Sakura but Kakashi....? Sasuke probably stabbed her because he doesn't want her to love him, even Sasuke is confused on why she loves him, forget about that i think even Kishi is confused. I still like NS even if it doesn't become canon, i just don't see Sakura changing, the only one who will change is Sasuke, because Naruto is so confident it seems cocky and Hagoromo has faith in him too 

 

 

not for playing the devil's advocate... but narut never agreed with sasuke to put her in genjutsu... The one who said those words was Sasuke, not Naruto.

And regarding the love to reclaim, i say that MS is the right one too... Both will reclaim the love... I wonder what is about.

 

Naruto said it will save them the trouble since she will get in the way


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 02:35 PM

not for playing the devil's advocate... but narut never agreed with sasuke to put her in genjutsu... The one who said those words was Sasuke, not Naruto.

And regarding the love to reclaim, i say that MS is the right one too... Both will reclaim the love... I wonder what is about.

Brotherly love ? The one that they have lost like Indra and Ashura  that's what I thought .


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 02:36 PM

Brotherly love ? The one that they have lost like Indra and Ashura  that's what I thought .

 

I though too that... hagoromo was speaking about that, not romantic love... That's why he was referecing to Sasuke too, not only Naruto... otherwise it wouldn't have any sense.


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 02:42 PM

 

I though too that... hagoromo was speaking about that, not romantic love... That's why he was referecing to Sasuke too, not only Naruto... otherwise it wouldn't have any sense.

SS fans are interpreting that in another way.


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 02:44 PM

SS fans are interpreting that in another way.

 

what's the news here?


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 02:46 PM

I thought about how the execution of NS will be believable or near plausible at this point. And no, Sakura falling in love with Naruto in the next few chapters isn't going to work. There is a very common scenario used in dramas and manga which is: already in love but haven't realized/misunderstood for someone else. Which will go in line with Kakashi's comment of Sakura's love changing a few chapters back.

In this scenario, Sakura "thinks" that she is in love with Sasuke, but a certain event will happen which makes her realize that this isn't love and the one she loved all along was Naruto. I don't know HOW it will be executed. Maybe, Sakura will see Naruto nearly dead when she's hopeless to do anything about it and realize how big his existence means to her, or maybe she herself will nearly die and in a flashback she can only think of how she will miss Naruto, or maybe after Sasuke gets redeemed and Sasuke is nice to her she realizes that Sasuke's smile can never brighten up her day like Naruto's does. Actually, there are many possible scenarios. I think there is a way that NS will be a tad more believable even at this point of the manga.
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Posted 27 September 2014 - 02:46 PM

 

I though too that... hagoromo was speaking about that, not romantic love... That's why he was referecing to Sasuke too, not only Naruto... otherwise it wouldn't have any sense.

Yes it can also be about family love like T7 but Hagoromo is only connected to them when it comes to brotherly love  also he did mention before this chap that he hopes they regain the love that they have lost so there is that .


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 02:48 PM

I thought about how the execution of NS will be believable or near plausible at this point. And no, Sakura falling in love with Naruto in the next few chapters isn't going to work. There is a very common scenario used in dramas and manga which is: already in love but haven't realized/misunderstood for someone else. Which will go in line with Kakashi's comment of Sakura's love changing a few chapters back.

In this scenario, Sakura "thinks" that she is in love with Sasuke, but a certain event will happen which makes her realize that this isn't love and the one she loved all along was Naruto. I don't know HOW it will be executed. Maybe, Sakura will see Naruto nearly dead when she's hopeless to do anything about it and realize how big his existence means to her, or maybe she herself will nearly die and in a flashback she can only think of how she will miss Naruto, or maybe after Sasuke gets redeemed and Sasuke is nice to her she realizes that Sasuke's smile can never brighten up her day like Naruto's does. Actually, there are many possible scenarios. I think there is a way that NS will be a tad more believable even at this point of the manga.

 

it would be like dokonjo ninden if you have read it but even more dramatic and stupid


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 02:49 PM

 

what's the news here?

They say Sasuke is about to get his lost love back through Sakura,that's why hagoromo said that after sakura's confession.



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Posted 27 September 2014 - 02:50 PM

It kinda did refer to romantic love since Sakura was shown lying down when Hagoromo mentioned love


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 02:52 PM

I'm following the manga and the facts not what i want it to be, Kishi just wasted a entire chapter on Sasuke and Sakura's feelings! He ruined Sakura's character by stating her dumb love for Sasuke, if Sasuke didn't care he could have just killed her or attempted to but he didn't. Forget about Sasuke and Sakura, Naruto didn't even react, at all! He even agreed in putting Sakura in a genjutsu, both Sasuke and Naruto knew she will get in the way and in the end of the chapter when both meet in the final valley Naruto was smiling with confident, no sign of hurt. Was the dude supposed to be in love with Sakura? 

 

Again, why do you expect Naruto to react? What did you expect him to say anyway? He is not the same kid he was in part 1 hospital scene. He's not gonna feel jealous or upset about love. He has matured(except when its about saving Sasuke).  

 

Why is it a problem if he was fired up before his fight against Sasuke? Naruto is the Hero for crying out loud, he's not going to mope and whine about love before his battle of Destiny. Tbf, I liked that he was being cocky. I'd rather see this Naruto than the one who would have tried to get emotional with Sasuke. No more emotions and bromance please! Let them just go at each other and fight like men. 

 

And I think Naruto still believes that Sakura is in love with Sasuke. Unfortunately, she didn't help ease Naruto's doubts in this chapter. What happens next is dependent on Sakura. Naruto cannot do anything, he is never gonna force her to love him.

 

Sakura has to decide: Does she love the guy who has done nothing but cause physical and emotional pain her entire life ? OR Does she love the guy who has always been by her side, protecting her,caring for her and trying his level best to make her smile?

 

Its upto Sakura to make the right choice.


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 02:52 PM

It kinda did refer to romantic love since Sakura was shown lying down when Hagoromo mentioned love

nope, he was referring to the love lost between the brothers, after the failure of their mother kaguya. it's even clear in the raw.


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 02:56 PM

it would be like dokonjo ninden if you have read it but even more dramatic and stupid

I've heard about it and that is one example but was executed poorly. It depends on the ability of the author if he/she can execute it correctly. Seeing Yamato, Sai, Kakashi's comments there is a possibility that this is the route Kishi is going to take.

And about the execution....I have no hope since this is Kishi we're talking about.

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Posted 27 September 2014 - 03:00 PM

I'm following the manga and the facts not what i want it to be, Kishi just wasted a entire chapter on Sasuke and Sakura's feelings! He ruined Sakura's character by stating her dumb love for Sasuke, if Sasuke didn't care he could have just killed her or attempted to but he didn't. Forget about Sasuke and Sakura, Naruto didn't even react, at all! He even agreed in putting Sakura in a genjutsu, both Sasuke and Naruto knew she will get in the way and in the end of the chapter when both meet in the final valley Naruto was smiling with confident, no sign of hurt. Was the dude supposed to be in love with Sakura? 

 

Hagoromo stated "they will find both find love again, not just Naruto but Sasuke too"  why did he single Sasuke out?

 

Naruto is my favorite character and i won't let him be the 2nd choice in this race, if SS was unlikely why would kishi dedicate this chapter to them? Why would he make Sakura so pathetic?

 

 
 

 

I'm sorry i completely lost hope, over 690 chapters and the same results...

 

 

And before that dialogue Kurama and Hagoromo's sons were shown as love transformed into hate.it was NOT romantic



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Posted 27 September 2014 - 03:00 PM

 

I just don't like how Sakura confessed to Sasuke right in front of Naruto, he was there for her and he was there for Kakashi too, but Kakashi outright supported her feelings for Sasuke. I understand Sakura but Kakashi....? Sasuke probably stabbed her because he doesn't want her to love him, even Sasuke is confused on why she loves him, forget about that i think even Kishi is confused. I still like NS even if it doesn't become canon, i just don't see Sakura changing, the only one who will change is Sasuke, because Naruto is so confident it seems cocky and Hagoromo has faith in him too 

 

 
 

Naruto said it will save them the trouble since she will get in the way

Sasuke said she will get in the way.NOT Naruto



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Posted 27 September 2014 - 03:03 PM

It kinda did refer to romantic love since Sakura was shown lying down when Hagoromo mentioned love

Actually when Sakura was down it was shown "Love that had transformed into hate" .It can also mean that Sakura may not feel the same about Sasuke after he put her through simulated homicide AFTER she begged him to stay and combine tha twith the fact that Sakura was shown angry with Sasuke for the first time in 600 chapters I think we are in for a surprise



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Posted 27 September 2014 - 03:06 PM

Naruto won't give up on her EVER. I can see it now. Sakura-Chan wakes up and she realizes what she truly wants and asks about Naruto and Sasuke. Kakashi tells her they are gone to fight. And then Sakura-Chan believes in Naruto to do what he got to do. Then Kakashi tells her about the promise that Naruto was talking about and then bam Sakura-Chan being Sakura-Chan starts to cry and ask why must Naruto be so stubborn? Then Kakashi says isn't it obvious that he truly loves you and then bam it reinforces the epiphany in her head once again. She realizes her love for Sasuke wasn't real etc. no second place for Naruto.

That prediction would be so cool



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Posted 27 September 2014 - 03:06 PM

Actually when Sakura was down it was shown "Love that had transformed into hate" .It can also mean that Sakura may not feel the same about Sasuke after he put her through simulated homicide AFTER she begged him to stay and combine tha twith the fact that Sakura was shown angry with Sasuke for the first time in 600 chapters I think we are in for a surprise


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 03:18 PM

Again, why do you expect Naruto to react? What did you expect him to say anyway? He is not the same kid he was in part 1 hospital scene. He's not gonna feel jealous or upset about love. He has matured(except when its about saving Sasuke).  

 

Why is it a problem if he was fired up before his fight against Sasuke? Naruto is the Hero for crying out loud, he's not going to mope and whine about love before his battle of Destiny. Tbf, I liked that he was being cocky. I'd rather see this Naruto than the one who would have tried to get emotional with Sasuke. No more emotions and bromance please! Let them just go at each other and fight like men. 

 

And I think Naruto still believes that Sakura is in love with Sasuke. Unfortunately, she didn't help ease Naruto's doubts in this chapter. What happens next is dependent on Sakura. Naruto cannot do anything, he is never gonna force her to love him.

 

Sakura has to decide: Does she love the guy who has done nothing but cause physical and emotional pain her entire life ? OR Does she love the guy who has always been by her side, protecting her,caring for her and trying his level best to make her smile?

 

Its upto Sakura to make the right choice.

 

No matter how you put it Sakura won't change she had 4 years to stop loving the dude, he nearly tired to kill her.... twice and she still loves him. And again she said it right in front of Naruto, when Kakashi tired to explain her crazy love to Sasuke, you have to admit he was affected why? Just compare what he says before Kakashi speaks to after. Now to Naruto, he saw Sasuke go but convinced Kakashi that he will bring Sasuke back because he promised Sakura. Its like he supports her feelings, of course he would because he is Naruto, he supposed to be the nice guy.

 

In all honestly Kishi will force SS in our throats, he will use the "true love conquers all" bullsh*t as a excuse, after this fight i can promise you Sasuke will change, like how Gaara went from badass killer to Naruto's pet preaching peace and how Kurama went from a muderous demon to a fox who asked for help...

 

Sasuke said she will get in the way.NOT Naruto

 

No Naruto said it too 

 

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Actually when Sakura was down it was shown "Love that had transformed into hate" .It can also mean that Sakura may not feel the same about Sasuke after he put her through simulated homicide AFTER she begged him to stay and combine tha twith the fact that Sakura was shown angry with Sasuke for the first time in 600 chapters I think we are in for a surprise

 

Please don't over think this, you will be just be disappointed at the end (like how i am now), she won't forgive up in Sasuke, he tired to kill her and she still loved him, her suddenly changing feelings and going for Naruto will be lame and will make Naruto as a second prize, he also is the main character he deserves better!!!


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 03:18 PM

It kinda did refer to romantic love since Sakura was shown lying down when Hagoromo mentioned love

unless you think Naruto's love for Sasuke is romantic as well because he was part of that speech too.


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