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#33781 Konoha'sCrimsonFox

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 12:45 PM

 

Someone here already referenced Kishi's old quote about not needing to read the manga to understand the movie. That's very telling, isn't it? Could it be that Kishi was aware of the film's lack of coherence and faith to the source material all this time?  

 

Yes he does. He specifically told us NS fans that do not trust what we read in the manga. he did not say precisely what we shouldn't trust. I'll say its the final two chapters. Look how the way he drew that chapter as if he gave up and wants the series to burn because SP has ruined his story out of pure profit.


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 12:53 PM

Lol, check it out you guys:

http://www.jumpfesta.com/naruto.html

 

They are using NS for advertising!!! :lmao:

LOL It seems to me that Kishi and Sp are the fickle ones. They had one heroine they were supposed to love and they dropped her for a new one :zaru:

Further confirmation they are terrible people. 


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 12:54 PM

 
And are you one of those people who believes that the film was started production this year - that it had an original premise with Sakura in the lead before popularity and pity because driving forces for Kishi to destroy his manga? 

No, I'm not. I belive that decision to switch heroines happened around the time we got the chapter with alliance rushing to the battlefield and infamous "I will hold your hand" comment. I don't remember which chapter it was but it came out around 2 years ago, the same time they decided to make the last.

Hiretsu-kun mentioned that SP were the ones to suggest the movie will be about love, so original script is theirs (or more accurately that dude who wrote that lousy fanfic of a novel). Hiretsu-kun just provided character designs and was a supervisor for the script deciding which parts to leave, add or change. So it's him to blame for that terrible story.

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 12:56 PM

Any of you think that Kikittenmoto ruined his manga in purpose ? Just because he didn't completely own it anymore and they forced him to do an NH ending ? 

 

To be honest, I thought about that once ...

Because honestly ... nobody can be that stupid to talk about a swich due to the popularity of his characters in an interview ... NOBODY.


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 12:57 PM

I get a little sad seeing images of our OTP pre-693.

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 12:57 PM

No, I'm not. I belive that decision to switch heroines happened around the time we got the chapter with alliance rushing to the battlefield and infamous "I will hold your hand" comment. I don't remember which chapter it was but it came out around 2 years ago, the same time they decided to make the last.

Hiretsu-kun mentioned that SP were the ones to suggest the movie will be about love, so original script is theirs (or more accurately that dude who wrote that lousy fanfic of a novel). Hiretsu-kun just provided character designs and was a supervisor for the script deciding which parts to leave, add or change. So it's him to blame for that terrible story.

Even if he did that, he didn't develop NH, and continued developing Narusaku's relationship till chapter 699! I still think he was against NH , but I blame him because he didn't fight for his ideas and story. 


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 12:59 PM

 

Yes he does. He specifically told us NS fans that do not trust what we read in the manga. he did not say precisely what we shouldn't trust. I'll say its the final two chapters. Look how the way he drew that chapter as if he gave up and wants the series to burn because SP has ruined his story out of pure profit.

 

Kishi is echoing the words of his assistant who claimed that we were improperly reading the manga this whole time. Misinterpretation came from our end when we assigned truths and meanings to the personalities of characters and events of the manga where in actuality there was nothing. By not taking these misdirections at face value and recognising the fervency of certain female characters' affections for the object of their desire, we could have come have to terms with the true ending for what it was and not allow ourselves to sink into the wallows of disappointment when our believes are proven false. At least, that's probably how the new world order that Pierrot helped develop out of inaccuracies, favoritism, and filth would want us to believe. 

 

 

No, I'm not. I belive that decision to switch heroines happened around the time we got the chapter with alliance rushing to the battlefield and infamous "I will hold your hand" comment. I don't remember which chapter it was but it came out around 2 years ago, the same time they decided to make the last.

Hiretsu-kun mentioned that SP were the ones to suggest the movie will be about love, so original script is theirs (or more accurately that dude who wrote that lousy fanfic of a novel). Hiretsu-kun just provided character designs and was a supervisor for the script deciding which parts to leave, add or change. So it's him to blame for that terrible story.

 
You say that and yet we have a paradoxical cover showing up literally in the following chapter after that dramafest with Team 7, including Sakura, posing in uniforms and the slogan "make your move, heroes and heroines" in big, bold letters plastered on the front of it for everyone to see. 
 
If Kishi truly intended for the torch to be passed to Hinata as early as 2011/2012 then why create that cover art? To mislead readers, lead them into a false sense of security and direct them away from the true intentions? He had ample opportunity to paint Hinata in a bolder, more independent light yet he refused to. He even had the audacity to continue giving Sakura notable accomplishments and screen-time while Hinata resigned herself to the back with the fodder. 
 
While Kishi might have spoke of one intention, his actions lead one to believe that Sakura was going to remain the heroine for the duration of the manga no matter what. 

Edited by Atheck, 17 December 2014 - 01:06 PM.


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:01 PM

 

To be honest, I thought about that once ...

Because honestly ... nobody can be that stupid to talk about a swich due to the popularity of his characters in an interview ... NOBODY.

I'm almost positive he wanted to ruin this series, because like you said, its hard to believe anyone can be this dumb and this much of a shill...


Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 17 December 2014 - 01:01 PM.

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:01 PM

 

To be honest, I thought about that once ...

Because honestly ... nobody can be that stupid to talk about a swich due to the popularity of his characters in an interview ... NOBODY.

exactly. I think the same, especially since, even if he knew what the movie will be about, he continued developing NS, and he can say that all that was just to "mislead" people, I'm sure that he doesn't believe it himself.  maybe I think like that cause a part of me wants to believe that Kishi is still "pure" haha. 

A lot of mangaka fought for their stories, so why not him... :confused:  Kishi no baka ! :pinch:


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:04 PM

 
:argh:  :argh:  :argh:  :argh:  He became a soulless being named Nardo. (That soul-sucking kiss of death Alienata....worse than an Avada Kedavra..)
Nardo is famous all around the world for being the worst scumbag ever. He married a brainless evil overlord and became a useless Hokage, an alcoholic, workaholic, absentee father and a liar.  :zaru:
 
WTF?!
.... I wanna go home....  :umm:

He's just an ink on paper. A puppet in Hiretsu-kun's hands who's the real worst scumbag of this franchise. :hm:

LOL It seems to me that Kishi and Sp are the fickle ones. They had one heroine they were supposed to love and they dropped her for a new one :zaru:

Further confirmation they are terrible people. 

Trying to bait ns fans how clever. :pimp: I'm hoping for some zombienata merch throwing at those jerks. :hm:

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:14 PM

Was it ramen that mentioned that publishers don't pressure / threat famous mangakas who's stories bring them so many cash? Like that hxh author who's forsaken his work to bacome a hikkikomori and play video games (lol maybe not so harsh xD) but they still didn't cancel his story.

Why SJ doesn't pressure Oda to put more romance or Kubo, Haruichi or other mangakas???

I don't think they forced him to do this. It's either he sold out or was manipulated to switch sides or both.

Edited by Akashi, 17 December 2014 - 01:15 PM.


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:15 PM

He's just an ink on paper. A puppet in Hiretsu-kun's hands who's the real worst scumbag of this franchise. :hm:
Trying to bait ns fans how clever. :pimp: I'm hoping for some zombienata merch throwing at those jerks. :hm:

LOL!

Kishimoto: hahaha I'd like to thank everyone for helping me succeed at making lots of monnies, anyone have any last questions or comments? hahaha
Fan: -slowly raises hand and stands- I just have a comment..
Kishimoto: please, go on! the longer we're here the more monnies I get haahahaa. 
Fan: -pulls out a hinata clock.- Guess what time it is?! :argh: -starts pelting kishimoto with hinata clocks- ITS TIME FOR SOME PAIN KISHIKASH!!

( i kept writing Hinatata. My brain won't work this morning :umm:

 


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:18 PM

LOL!

Kishimoto: hahaha I'd like to thank everyone for helping me succeed at making lots of monnies, anyone have any last questions or comments? hahaha
Fan: -slowly raises hand and stands- I just have a comment..
Kishimoto: please, go on! the longer we're here the more monnies I get haahahaa. 
Fan: -pulls out a hinata clock.- Guess what time it is?! :argh: -starts pelting kishimoto with hinata clocks- ITS TIME FOR SOME PAIN KISHIKASH!!

( i kept writing Hinatata. My brain won't work this morning :umm:

 

They should also show up in sadako-like wigs and white contacts. :hehehe:

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:19 PM

 

Someone here already referenced Kishi's old quote about not needing to read the manga to understand the movie. That's very telling, isn't it? Could it be that Kishi was aware of the film's lack of coherence and faith to the source material all this time?  

Perhaps but I don't know,everything contradicts with each other and is BS,nothing can be said in this.


Edited by Advaith, 17 December 2014 - 01:22 PM.


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:19 PM

LOL!

Kishimoto: hahaha I'd like to thank everyone for helping me succeed at making lots of monnies, anyone have any last questions or comments? hahaha
Fan: -slowly raises hand and stands- I just have a comment..
Kishimoto: please, go on! the longer we're here the more monnies I get haahahaa. 
Fan: -pulls out a hinata clock.- Guess what time it is?! :argh: -starts pelting kishimoto with hinata clocks- ITS TIME FOR SOME PAIN KISHIKASH!!

( i kept writing Hinatata. My brain won't work this morning :umm:

 

 

Do they have a Hinata-shaped fridge? I bet pelting him with it would be a riot.  :hehehe:


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:20 PM

Any of you think that Kikittenmoto ruined his manga in purpose ? Just because he didn't completely own it anymore and they forced him to do an NH ending ? 

 

Me do. I could only imagine how much the nightmare he must be having and to make it worse. The world curses him while behind close doors he's just another victim of having rights to his creation taken away from him like Hideo Kojima with the MGS series.

 

And this is where I blame him. If he learned to use the PC and have his own Tweeter account. I would have suggested him to write the true ending through novel like I mentioned in one of my earlier posts. I can't do that because of his stupid Hinata male beta of an assistant will delete my tweets from ever reaching Kishi's eyes.


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:22 PM

 

Do they have a Hinata-shaped fridge? I bet pelting him with it would be a riot.  :hehehe:

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How the hell would you get it through the door though!? 

LOL You could always go as Karin I guess; "This is a part of my cos-play, I'm the girl in the fridge."  :hm: 

 

 

They should also show up in sadako-like wigs and white contacts. :hehehe:

PFFTT. No, they should show up as Sakura's :zaru:
Like a whole mob of them and just start throwing merchandise at him like Kamehameha's. 


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:34 PM

exactly. I think the same, especially since, even if he knew what the movie will be about, he continued developing NS, and he can say that all that was just to "mislead" people, I'm sure that he doesn't believe it himself.  maybe I think like that cause a part of me wants to believe that Kishi is still "pure" haha. 

A lot of mangaka fought for their stories, so why not him... :confused:  Kishi no baka ! :pinch:

 

He was lying when he said that he was misseading us. He was just discouraging the Japanese NS fans from watching the movie and two days later, he said he considered NS but he pity Hinata. And now the popularity. So yeah, misleading is just a joke to pissed of NS fans.

 

If Kishi is anything like Hanataro (Bleach). People will walk over him. I forgive him because of this, but no longer be following his stories because he lacks the ability to defend his stories.

 

Now, how much you want to bet SP will remove the two red hairpins from Sakura and relocate her house away from the Hokage Tower in PT3? Kishi went full throttle with NS much as possible up to the end, knowing that it will be destroy by retcons. Because he loves NS just as much as us. No he's force to pair up his favorite female character that is mirrored off his wife with another character that is mirriored off his brother. I'm sure he must be disturbed by brainstorming SS because all he will see is his wife and brother together. Poor guy.


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:36 PM

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 01:43 PM

What's happening in this picture?

Unfortunately, I saw in tumblr (sorry I do not have the link) a  Sakura's gif after this scene telling him apparently baka maybe cause something happen  with Hinata.


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