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[ramenanmitsu]

Uhmmmm, no... If Sakura loves Sasuke, she doesn't love Naruto the way he wants her to love him - aka romantically. On the other hand Naruto can love Sasuke and Sakura at the same time, because those are different types of love. We are not discussing how Sakura loves Naruto as a friend no matter what happens between her and Sasuke. Because Naruto doesn't want (just) her friendship, he wants her romantic love. So Sakura loving Sasuke is in fact disruptive and leads to her being the cause of Naruto's pain.
 
Though I agree with you, it is a very interesting theme and it is worth being discussed, I don't support filtering opinions here solely to pro-NS.

  

In the end i dont really care if hinata deserves naruto or not. I just want to see what that crappy story showed me and that is !!!NS!! not NH and SS, for freaking 700 chapters. I dont care what kind of bond naruto and sasuke have. Iam not intrested if hes more focused at the time in bringing back sasuke then worrying for sakura. In the end one reason for him bringing back sasuke is sakura. In the end all naruto and sasuke have is friendship and naruto loves sakura. Im not intrested in their crappy firendship im intrested in the pairing kishi developed all the way till now. BUUUT nope he f**cked it up with one chapter.GG. 
 
Naruto did a lot of things to help and comfort sakura, thats why i dont get why naruto doesnt deserve sakura but in the end sakura did nothing but lying and telling him how much she loves sasuke so thats why she doenst deserve naruto.

So basically you're saying that you're doing selective reading.

Because my point is that Naruto doesn't really care much about Sakura like a guy in love would, hence he has a problem as well. And for the positive things, Naruto and Sakura have both shown moments where they care for each other. But you're saying you don't care about those things. "You don't care" about Naruto's lack of care towards Sakura when Sasuke is the offender, "you don't care" about Sakura genuinely caring for Naruto. You're only considering the positive aspects of Naruto while only seeing the negative aspects of Sakura. Because "you don't care". That's alright since it's your opinion but it's selective reading nonetheless because you're only cutting out parts that suits your arguments while ignoring the parts that don't.

Well at least you admit it.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 26 September 2014 - 07:24 PM.

[PhenixElite]

He's trying to bring Sasuke back for himself. ( ) He cares about the POALT because he doesn't want to be that guy who can't keep promises. You are not understanding. Wherever Sasuke is around, Naruto let him do whatever he wants and only replies with "... :/". Sakura is being disrespected all the time and he does nothing only because is Sasuke. The only time in Part 2 when he actually says something is when he say "Sakura can make a better plan than you, i'm sure!". He is always favoring him over Sakura.

Of couse hes letting sasuke disrespect sakura becuase sasuke is kittening right. Sakura is just to dumb to get it, AS SEEN AGAIN IN THIS CHAPTER. He telling her again and again that shes annoying and naruto most likely knows that sasuke is right

[PhenixElite]

  So basically you're saying that you're doing selective reading.

Because my point is that Naruto doesn't really care much about Sakura than he should, hence he has a problem as well. And for the positive things, Naruto and Sakura have both shown moments where they care for each other. But you're saying you don't care about those things. "You don't care" about Naruto's lack of care towards Sakura when Sasuke is the offender, "you don't care" about Sakura genuinely caring for Naruto. You're only considering the positive aspects of Naruto while only seeing the negative aspects of Sakura. Because "you don't care". That's alright since it's your opinion but it's selective reading nonetheless because you're only cutting out parts that suits your arguments while ignoring the out the parts that don't.

Well at least you admit it.

Wow sakura cares for naruto now thats great. Thats the least she can do for a friend i guess. Naruto sacrified his own happiness only for her to be happy and whats sakuras answer to it? See recent chapter

[Naruko]

Of couse hes letting sasuke disrespect sakura becuase sasuke is kittening right. Sakura is just to dumb to get it, AS SEEN AGAIN IN THIS CHAPTER. He telling her again and again that shes annoying and naruto most likely knows that sasuke is right

 

No bashing of characters, please. And Naruto didn't see when Sasuke called her annoying, it was a genjutsu, only Sakura was able to see it. 

 

 

Wow sakura cares for naruto now thats great. Thats the least she can do for a friend i guess. Naruto sacrified his own happiness only for her to be happy and whats sakuras answer to it? See recent chapter

 

Also, no double posting, please. 

 

I'm just letting you know before the moderators come. 

Edited by Naruko, 26 September 2014 - 07:27 PM.

[PhenixElite]

 

No bashing of characters, please. And Naruto didn't see when Sasuke called her annoying, it was a genjutsu, only Sakura was able to see it. 

 

 

 

Also, no double posting, please. 

 

I'm just letting you know before the moderators come. 

Well but what if i tell u Sakura is a dumb blind and heathless character?`Cause thats the truth ask kishi

Edited by PhenixElite, 26 September 2014 - 07:28 PM.

[ramenanmitsu]

Of couse Sakura doesn't love Naruto becuase sasuke is kittening right. Why the hell does Naruto obsess over Sasuke. Even to the point of not even getting angry when he downright tries to kill his own friends. Naruto is just toodumb to get it, AS SEEN AGAIN IN THIS CHAPTER. He telling him again and again to leave him the hell alone and Sakura most likely knows that sasuke is right

Fixed for accuracy. Jokes aside, your argument can all be turned around. I accept that BOTH Naruto AND Sakura have faults. But you're being selective.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 26 September 2014 - 07:36 PM.

[Khaleesi]

Of couse hes letting sasuke disrespect sakura becuase sasuke is kittening right. Sakura is just to dumb to get it, AS SEEN AGAIN IN THIS CHAPTER. He telling her again and again that shes annoying and naruto most likely knows that sasuke is right

 

Wow sakura cares for naruto now thats great. Thats the least she can do for a friend i guess. Naruto sacrified his own happiness only for her to be happy and whats sakuras answer to it? See recent chapter

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA. YOU ARE LITERALLY DEFENDING NARUTO FOR BEING "A NICE GUY". Dammit. I can't take you seriously anymore. Sorry.

[Naruko]

Well but what if i tell u Sakura is a dumb blind and heathless character?`Cause thats the truth ask kishi

 

Then you will look like someone who can't read what I just posted. 

[PhenixElite]

 

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA. YOU ARE LITERALLY DEFENDING NARUTO FOR BEING "A NICE GUY". Dammit. I can't take you seriously anymore. Sorry.

WHAT?? why shouldnt i defend him for beeing a .nice guys???? kishi developed NS this whole manga and now he f**cked it up that the problem here. He f**cked it up with destroying sakuras whole character development

 

@Naruko: Truth hurts sometimes

Edited by PhenixElite, 26 September 2014 - 07:36 PM.

[ramenanmitsu]

Wow sakura cares for naruto now thats great. Thats the least she can do for a friend i guess. Naruto sacrified his own happiness only for her to be happy and whats sakuras answer to it? See recent chapter

Can you calm down and answer rationally please?

Naruto did NOT sacrifice his happiness. He loves Sasuke. He wants to bring Sasuke back because Sasuke is his best friend. Wasn't that kind of clear? And no, Sakura isn't obliged to return Naruto's feelings just because Naruto tried hard on his own accord. Using your logic, Naruto is a jerk for ignoring Hinata after she sacrificed her life for him.

You applying blame to one while disregarding the same to the other is biased and selective reading.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 26 September 2014 - 07:38 PM.

[Gravenimage]

Can we at least be happy that Kishi officially killed SS in this chapter.

[PhenixElite]

Can you calm down and answer rationally please?

Naruto did NOT sacrifice his happiness. He loves Sasuke. He wants to bring Sasuke back because Sasuke is his best friend. Wasn't that kind of clear? And no, Sakura isn't obliged to return Naruto's feelings just because Naruto tried hard on his own accord. If that was the case, Naruto is a jerk for ignoring Hinata after she sacrificed her life for him.

You applying blame to one while disregarding the same to the other is biased and selective reading.

Sakura is oblied to return his feelings because thats what kishi showed us in htis story and thats the pairing he developed dammit.  This is not reallife. I want to see what the author made me believe to happen in the end not just make it magically dissappear. BTW naruto is not gay

[Alessa]

Of couse hes letting sasuke disrespect sakura becuase sasuke is kittening right. Sakura is just to dumb to get it, AS SEEN AGAIN IN THIS CHAPTER. He telling her again and again that shes annoying and naruto most likely knows that sasuke is right

Naruto stated he wants to become the hero of this village and make everyone acknowledge him when everyone thought that he was an annoying idiot and a threat.

He knows very well what it is like to wish for someone's love and not recieve it. He himself was very annoying to Sakura and Sasuke in Part 1.

So Naruto is on Sakura's side. He has been on her side of rejection and partially still is.

[Naruko]

@Naruko: Truth hurts sometimes

 

It does, but what you said didn't hurt and wasn't the truth, as ramenamitsu said, you're just being biased and I add the word "butthurt" too. Sakura might have failures, but she is still a good character, this chapter was awful, yes, but it doesn't erase the other 692 ones.  

 

 

Sakura is oblied to return his feelings because thats what kishi showed us in htis story and thats the pairing he developed dammit.  This is not reallife. I want to see what the author made me believe to happen in the end not just make it magically dissappear. BTW naruto is not gay

 

It would be great if she did, but no, she is not obliged. Kishimoto even said he's trying to make things realistic (which I disagree because the way Sakura kept falling for someone who treats her like kitten is unrealistic). Who said he's gay? 

[Shadow1275]

Can we at least be happy that Kishi officially killed SS in this chapter.

Its on life support but until the raws come out we won't know for sure whether its dead or not

[Alessa]

Can we at least be happy that Kishi officially killed SS in this chapter.

No we can't. I actually find it great that we, NS-shippers, are not content with another ship going down. It happened at the cost of our beloved character's development. And we won't be content with NS becoming canon if it is half-assed, not believable and not beautiful. We actually have standarts, while NH and SS ships usually just want results, no matter how they are achieved. NS has a lot of development and it deserves a nice conclusion that would make our favorite characters happy.

[Khaleesi]

WHAT?? why shouldnt i defend him for beeing a .nice guys???? kishi developed NS this whole manga and now he f**cked it up that the problem here. He f**cked it up with destroying sakuras whole character development

 

@Naruko: Truth hurts sometimes

 

Destroying Sakura's chracter development? Yes.

But you are crying over Naruto's "hurt feelings". 

 

Sakura is oblied to return his feelings because thats what kishi showed us in htis story and thats the pairing he developed dammit.  This is not reallife. I want to see what the author made me believe to happen in the end not just make it magically dissappear. BTW naruto is not gay

NS is still the end-game. But no, she's not. It's true that we all expected another development for this story, but this has nothing to do with Sakura being obligated to return Naruto's feelings? As a story, we know that it's predestinated, not that she is obligated, there is the difference. As a person, Sakura won't reciprocate his feelings because that's what she should do. That's kittening her character up even more. THAT would make Naruto a second choise. If you are a Naruto fan, i don't understand why are you even suggesting this?

And Ramen said he loves Sasuke, he never said that it was romantically, you know.

Edited by theunburnt, 26 September 2014 - 07:58 PM.

[ramenanmitsu]

Sakura is oblied to return his feelings because thats what kishi showed us in htis story and thats the pairing he developed dammit.  This is not reallife. I want to see what the author made me believe to happen in the end not just make it magically dissappear. BTW naruto is not gay

No, she is not "obliged". Kishi did develop the NS relationship, so story telling wise Sakura should have fallen in love with Naruto following natural events. But Kishi somehow chose to not keep it like that to keep the pairing wars. Unrealistic bad writing I guess.

And just because I said Naruto loves Sasuke, I didn't mean he was gay. There are many other forms of love than romantic love.

And can you stop kitten talking to Naruko and theunburnt? They were being calm and nice to you. The way you treat them for having opposing opinions seriously disturbs me.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 26 September 2014 - 08:00 PM.

[Alessa]

Its on life support but until the raws come out we won't know for sure whether its dead or not

I don't see how Sakura's confession, even in present tense, would change anything for SS. She had the most brutal rejection just now. And even if she hadn't, we have all the forshadowing in the world that she will choose Naruto in the end (movie or manga). I see more complications to NS in this chapter (in terms of how believable NS-canon would be) than ambiguity in whether SS is alive or dead. It is dead.

Edited by Alessa, 26 September 2014 - 08:05 PM.

[Hiraishin]

 
No bashing of characters, please. And Naruto didn't see when Sasuke called her annoying, it was a genjutsu, only Sakura was able to see

I think it was out loud, he had to turn around to lock eyes with her and put her in the genjutsu after all.

Its on life support but until the raws come out we won't know for sure whether its dead or not

If you're wondering whether it's present tense or past, it's present.