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[Newkidontheblock]

The translation on mangabee had her say that she loves him and that she wants to be with sasuke forever. Believe me, I don't want to be right about this, but that's what it said.

[AHK]

The translation on mangabee had her say that she loves him and that she wants to be with sasuke forever. Believe me, I don't want to be right about this, but that's what it said.

What? That's not even close to what any of the other translations said.

[rocci]

The translation on mangabee had her say that she loves him and that she wants to be with sasuke forever. Believe me, I don't want to be right about this, but that's what it said.

Is that mangabee translation or they took it from mangastream?

[Newkidontheblock]

I'm sorry man. I'm just... more than a little upset about all this chapter. It just made me angry in how she said she loved or loves him throughout all this and how, in sakura's words, how pathetic it makes her look. Like I said, when sasuke isn't part of the equation, her interactions with naruto and her growth as a person because of him makes me really want to see these two together. Hearing what she said makes me question all the development narusaku has had.

[Newkidontheblock]

@rocci, I'm pretty sure mangabee

[Crow T Robot]

@Crow how is that shown when chapter 469 and 470 proves that wrong. Plus this chapter just proves she don't love Sasuke and Naruto was right there to hear it.

How does 469 and 470 prove that wrong?

[Iwantbuns]

Well. On the bright side we still have SasuNaru ^^

 

lmao I'm gonna start crying right now xD

[Silent Storm]

Reposting from the chapter thread:

 

Yeah, taking a break is for the best but honestly I can see why people are upset.

 

I think people expected after her first confession and rejection by Sasuke in 181 (and failure by Naruto to bring him back), Sakura would begin the process of falling out of love with Sasuke and caring for him as a teammate and friend. Knowing that her love was not enough to stop him going down a dark path would be enough for her to drop her romantic attachment to Sasuke and grow stronger as a person physically and emotionally.

 

Expecting her to drop Sasuke completely is a mistake as moving from romantic feelings, to her Sasuke is also friend and a dear teammate and saving him from the darkness along with Naruto is what friends and teammates would do.

 

People expected Sakura to gradually start to fall in love with Naruto and out of love with Sasuke at around that point in the manga as it was hinted in part 1 that she was capable of doing such a thing but it would be impossible so long as Sasuke is still in the picture in some way. Having a shared goal of saving a friend from a path of destruction would also contribute to them getting closer to one another emotionally, then near to the end of the manga and the final battle Sakura would reveal that she loves Naruto and would wish for him to come back alive.

 

Most of what I've said to some extent did happen in the manga but Sasuke was still an elephant in the room and Kishimoto was hinting at Hinata finally making her move which throws a wrench in what we expected to happen.

 

What this chapter shows to some is that Sakura for all this time has still held onto the part 1 version of Sasuke that she loved and what she did again is a repeat of chapter 181. We can all interpret it however we want, but the fact remains that she poured her heart out and a translation suggests (and apparently the "raw" that came out) that she still feels attracted to him romantically after all this time since chapter 181. There needs to be a reason why Sakura still feels this way about Sasuke because Sasuke has not done anything since their first reunion in part 1 that would make someone fall in love with him. He even admits he doesn't know why she likes him that way and he is not interested in her.

 

Sakura falling out of love with Sasuke but still caring for him as a friend and a teammate would have done wonders to her character and show that she's not only grown as a ninja but as a person she has matured and no longer holds on to "selfish" love. However this chapter shows (to some people) that this hasn't been the case and her character has taken steps back as she's still at the mercy of her feelings for Sasuke, the same guy who has just placed her under a genjutsu depicting him piercing her through the heart as well as indifference and murder attempts at her life.

 

People are understandably upset that she still holds onto romantic feelings for Sasuke which has proven to be detrimental to her character when it was hinted that she could harbor romantic feelings towards the main character.

 

I am gonna admit that I kinda did overreact earlier and I am sorry if I upset anyone, but I am not going to change my stance. NaruSaku's road to canon just got alot harder and I can't see this ending in a way that is realistic. Kishimoto has made a complete mess of the romantic subplot by dragging out her feelings towards Sasuke right up to the end of the manga, and the manga is about to end and there hasn't been ANY resolution to the big 3. To some people, Kishimoto has made a mockery of Sakura in this chapter (as is seen across the fandom right now) and whether you think that is the case or not, the fact remains that most places are bashing her right now (not like they didn't already, but this chapter, imo gives them a good reason to).

 

Whatever happens at this point, I just want the manga to end now. I absolutely despise SasuSaku as a ship and pray this never ends with them getting together because it's quite frankly one of the most abusive disgusting relationships in this manga right now. Even if I wasn't a NaruSaku shipper, I'd still hate this ship with a passion.

 

I think some of us need to take a break from this as right now there has been a back and forth shipping war between NS and SS which has worn many of us out.

 

Might add more later.

 

Edited by Silent Storm, 25 September 2014 - 06:02 PM.

[Alessa]

Is that mangabee translation or they took it from mangastream?

I stumbled upon two versions that give two COMPLETELY different visions of SS and Sakura's feelings.

One confirms SS is DEAD - http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/693

The other one makes it clear that Sakura still loves Sasuke with all her heart and wishes to be with him - http://www.onemanga....ter_List/693/1/

I have NO idea which one to trust. How do we figure it out??

 

EDIT: I can see why some SS shippers are overjoyed and NS shippers discouraged. I only saw an anti-SS version of translation at first, so I kind of felt there was a bit of light in the darkness. Now I am even more depressed.

Edited by Alessa, 25 September 2014 - 04:34 PM.

[Iwantbuns]

@Silent Storm

 

I basically agree with you.

[AHK]

I'm sorry man. I'm just... more than a little upset about all this chapter. It just made me angry in how she said she loved or loves him throughout all this and how, in sakura's words, how pathetic it makes her look. Like I said, when sasuke isn't part of the equation, her interactions with naruto and her growth as a person because of him makes me really want to see these two together. Hearing what she said makes me question all the development narusaku has had.

Lel that's why I just stick with mangapanda, they're always closest to the raws. I think the way she said she "loved" him is evidence that she hasn't loved him for a while now, which backs up the whole 540 thing. I wouldn't worry about NS and it's development so much. If anything, NS got a little positive attention this chapter via Naruto. I couldn't help but crack a smile when he talked about his promise to Sakura. He still cares about it, and still cares about her feelings, I thought that was cool. And if the promise is still relevant to him, than so is his talk with Sai, where he basically said that he would confess only upon the completion of his promise.

[Newkidontheblock]

Let me make one thing clear. I still think out of all the pairings, narusaku is the most likely, but now I wonder if we get a satisfying way for them to be together. Because, I frankly don't know a way for that to happen. I can't really see a satisfying way for the other pairings to work either, but that's besides the point.

[Alessa]

Reposting from the chapter thread:

 

I'd like to say that you've expressed it all very well. I couldn't write it better. Thank you.

[Alessa]

Let me make one thing clear. I still think out of all the pairings, narusaku is the most likely, but now I wonder if we get a satisfying way for them to be together. Because, I frankly don't know a way for that to happen. I can't really see a satisfying way for the other pairings to work either, but that's besides the point.

Exactly. If we saw some positive development of Sakura in this chapter, I would expect her to confirm her feelings for Naruto in the end of the manga. Like if she took her stand against Sasuke or supported Naruto and showed her determination to believe in both of them. But now she is utterly heart-broken (doesn't matter if she "loves" or "loved" Sasuke), so any romantic interactions with Naruto are out of the question. He might comfort her and she might thank him, but that is all. She is suffering right now and even if her relationship with Sasuke is over, it will take time for her to heal. Otherwise Naruto would look like a rebound. So my only hopes are for the movie right now.

Edited by Alessa, 25 September 2014 - 04:47 PM.

[Iwantbuns]

Let me make one thing clear. I still think out of all the pairings, narusaku is the most likely, but now I wonder if we get a satisfying way for them to be together. Because, I frankly don't know a way for that to happen. I can't really see a satisfying way for the other pairings to work either, but that's besides the point.

 

Especially with all that MinaKushi comparing too xD When I first read the chapter, I thought it was really good. And then I come here and bam negativity everywhere. I thought it was a really nice chapter. Even the way Sakura was saying that if Sasuke still had a place in his heart. I think she really just wants him to feel something at this point. I think she really wants a happy ending for all of Team 7. It's not just about her anymore, and I appreciate that. She's honest.

 

Who cares if she still loves Sasuke? She's loving the right way, but she doesn't really understand Sasuke. 

 

The point is: She still has stronger feelings for Naruto. Naruto still loves Sakura. And Sasuke confirmed he feels nothing for her romantically. I still expect NaruSaku, because it seems like the most positive and logical pairing. Although Kishi seems to be a little confusing.

Edited by Iwantbuns, 25 September 2014 - 04:52 PM.

[Newkidontheblock]

Exactly. If we saw some positive development of Sakura in this chapter, I would expect her to confirm her feelings for Naruto in the end of the manga. Like if she took her stand against Sasuke or supported Naruto and showed her determination to believe in both of them. But now she is utterly heart-broken (doesn't matter if she "loves" or "loved" Sasuke), so any romantic interactions with Naruto are out of the question. He might comfort her and she might thank him, but that is all. She is suffering right now and even if her relationship with Sasuke is over, it will take time for her to heal. Otherwise Naruto would look like a rebound. So my only hopes are for the movie right now.

Truth be told, even before this chapter, her standing up to sasuke for naruto wouldn't have been out of character, she's done it before, but to go this far, I can only wonder, what could she love about him? If it turns out that it was Naruto's forehead incident that kept her like this, I gonna be pissed. Not that I didn't expect that incident to come back in the future, but I expected it to be Icing on the narusaku cake, not her reason to loving a monster.

[Kagomaru]

Truth be told, even before this chapter, her standing up to sasuke for naruto wouldn't have been out of character, she's done it before, but to go this far, I can only wonder, what could she love about him? If it turns out that it was Naruto's forehead incident that kept her like this, I gonna be pissed. Not that I didn't expect that incident to come back in the future, but I expected it to be Icing on the narusaku cake, not her reason to loving a monster.

Heck, even Sasuke said: "What did she even see in me?"

[Newkidontheblock]

That's why I'm kind of afraid Naruto's little prank might have a hand in this.

[Newkidontheblock]

The best way I can hope to interpret this for narusaku is that this chapter was sakura unloading what was left of her from part one onto sasuke, kind of like getting one last confirmation about him, like naruto did after he and sasuke last exchanged blows. It would be cool if this went like Ramona did against gidian, like how one part of her still loves him, but the rest of her is through with him, but it seems unlikely

[Alessa]

Truth be told, even before this chapter, her standing up to sasuke for naruto wouldn't have been out of character, she's done it before, but to go this far, I can only wonder, what could she love about him? If it turns out that it was Naruto's forehead incident that kept her like this, I gonna be pissed. Not that I didn't expect that incident to come back in the future, but I expected it to be Icing on the narusaku cake, not her reason to loving a monster.

I don't believe that scene is very important. It seems that the incident after Sakura's confession, when Sasuke thanked her, had a bigger impact on her. She remembers it a lot. I've always thought that that was a kind rejection of Sasuke's part, but she might consider it a hint that he has feelings for her.

But today's chapter has confirmed that Sasuke has no gratitude for her anymore. We got the repetition of "You're annoying", bit nothing positive added to it.