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#3321 Inferno180

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:33 AM

Inferno180: It is interesting how you note that Hinata will usually leech off of Naruto for support. Some people say that Sakura does not understand Nauro at all, and that Hinata does simply because she recites his nindo most of the time during her screen time (not today that Sakura has never been affected by his nindo, b/c she has) - however, what Sakura is trying to prevent from happening to Naruto is exactly what Hinata usually does, which is constantly relying on Naruto. I think that during the recent events in the war, Hinata is finally just beginning to make an effort to help out Naruto instead of needing him o help her out. However, Sakura has been trying to take off his burden from others relying on him for much longer (most notably seen during the Heaven and Earth bridge event). Sakura is the one who truly understands what Naruto is going through, and is the only one in the series (or at least the only female) to demonstrate her worry for HIS wellbeing. Sure Hinata has had her moments, like when she is thankful that Nauto is alive after the Pain incident, but her moments are nothing compared to those of Sakura. To me, Sakura is beginning to look more and more like Naruto's wife - the woman who will support him through his most difficult trials and comfort him in his sadness - Sakura is the one who has made the greatest effort to not rely on him as much and instead support him, emotionally and physically.

 

Yeah the ordeal though here is that where Sakura actually got the development to not rely on Naruto but also support him, Hinata is far behind on this. In terms of what can come forward with NH though, its going to have a hard time no matter what. SS has less development than NH yet it still has a priority in the story because its been tied to Sakura for so long. NS rather as said before, its part of the journey and what most feel now is, it was not originally shown or thought to come but after recent events, it may be the thing that both Naruto and Sakura never expected to happen, getting together. The set up right now, NS got a major boost with the parallel confirmation and many other things can come, SS has a big issue coming forward and it does not look good or positive.

 

NH though, even though it exists and still is present, just what can be shown to make it somehow more important? There are so many issues it needs to bypass, for one Sasuke, where does Hinata fit with Sasuke? Chapter 632 was basically the first chapter where she even held the same room of space with Sasuke in over 10 years, not to mention the lack of her always being absent and out of the loop with Sasuke. The series is in among the final arc, Hinata is still never really interacted or even spoken to Sasuke canon wise, so what importance does she have here? Development wise, its severely lagging, many opportunities were presented for Kishi to use it if he wanted but he did not. Events like 631, they could have been bypassed or just given to Hinata right there, but again and again, he always chose Sakura. Now with 615 passed, more could have been built but it was not, it was just a short moment it passed, still nothing or even any thoughts on Naruto on the hand holding, rather it looks like now the hand holding was just for thanking and consoling her from neji's sacriice and passing the power with his thoughts on all those who sacrificed themselves for him so far from his parents to as recent as the others like Itachi and Chiyo. Now this also needs to contend with the Sakura=Kushina parallel too and this is a foreshadowing element, not something that can be easily changed. Its just even with Hinata trying to do stuff on her own, if she is, still what is the intended resolution with her? She flip flopped quicker than Sasuke did in alignment. She was bold and many thought maybe nejis death would be the trigger for her to grow up at once but she just reverted, again. Some people have said that this is butchering Hinata's character or kishi getting revenge on the Sakura-hating critics, whatever it is, all I feel is that Hinata is not making anything clear or traceable, I mean in the middle of the battle against the biggest demon of all, what is she going to do? Obviously all of team 7, the edo hokage, and the current kage coming to the battlefield, they all have the power to unite against a revived madara, and deal with the ten tails, but how exactly do the others at normal power fare? Unless Naruto passes out the kurama power again? Are they just going to standby? I don't hate Hinata, but she is becoming harder to identify and follow, kishi still has not given us much to work with in the manga alone and with so limited notions, what exactly are we to expect from her? Thats my problem with Hinata now, what exactly are we looking for in her? What happens next with her? Many other characters you can identify, even Shikamaru, as recent as 635, you can tell what comes up with him, he knows the ordeal with Sasuke may come simply by listening to Sai and Sakura. He knows something will happen and may be prepped for telling Ino when the event comes, simple. Main characters, no problem cause we focus on them most of the time. The current kage were all wounded so we knew they would be out of commission for a bit but now they are coming back. We all expected Tsunade to bite the dust and possibly Orchimaru killing her, but she lived and is ok. But what are we to expect from Hinata? This is why whatever comes up with her, it may be easily identified or hard to understand because of this who uncleared position with her right now, we don't know what is intended with her character at this point after a big event like 615 was shortend and her boldness suddenly goes away the moment the edo hokages come.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:34 AM

I would love an episode length or chapters that is only about NS, like they hang out and all. I noticed that a lot of manga does dedicate to one pairing, and usually it either draws a conclusion or route to it that needs one final push. NS already got them with the confession, but I believe the upside version is needed now.


That sounds awesome - perhaps a talk that concludes what occurred in the Land of Iron. Maybe Sakura will bring it up, and Naruto will tell her he understands why she did what she did, and Naruto will confess only to have her say she already knew he loved her because Sai told her lol xD

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:41 AM

I get the feeling that NaruSaku won't happen until the very end of the manga (not that it won't be evident before, heck it is now) I also don't expect any lovey dovey scenes except a kiss to the forehead.

 

It isn't that he is stringing along fans of other pairings, it is just if he is following the pattern I think he is following, NaruSaku is the final payoff

 

He has to save Sasuke then get the girl...

 

of course this is just my opinion and that and $1.50 can get you a cup o' joe...

 

Yep. There are more important things right now than a pairing becoming canon. Although he's probably going to continue to write hints towards the final pairing. Who knows...?


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 01:25 AM

This question is inspire by the chapter of last  week.

 

Do you think that Naruto's love for Sakura is enough to say  that he cannot live without her?

if Naruto is about to die do you think that he will image only  her in  his last moment like Obito did with Rin?


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 01:43 AM

This question is inspire by the chapter of last  week.

 

Do you think that Naruto's love for Sakura is enough to say  that he cannot live without her?

if Naruto is about to die do you think that he will image only  her in  his last moment like Obito did with Rin?

if that happens he will see all hes friends, that is what is not the same as obito,



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 01:51 AM

This question is inspire by the chapter of last  week.
 
Do you think that Naruto's love for Sakura is enough to say  that he cannot live without her?
if Naruto is about to die do you think that he will image only  her in  his last moment like Obito did with Rin?

He will single her out like with Team 7, rather than a group, much like many protagonists. It's natural because it's pure obvious that she's very important to him, individually.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 01:57 AM

Inferno180: It is interesting how you note that Hinata will usually leech off of Naruto for support. Some people say that Sakura does not understand Nauro at all, and that Hinata does simply because she recites his nindo most of the time during her screen time (not today that Sakura has never been affected by his nindo, b/c she has) - however, what Sakura is trying to prevent from happening to Naruto is exactly what Hinata usually does, which is constantly relying on Naruto. I think that during the recent events in the war, Hinata is finally just beginning to make an effort to help out Naruto instead of needing him o help her out. However, Sakura has been trying to take off his burden from others relying on him for much longer (most notably seen during the Heaven and Earth bridge event). Sakura is the one who truly understands what Naruto is going through, and is the only one in the series (or at least the only female) to demonstrate her worry for HIS wellbeing. Sure Hinata has had her moments, like when she is thankful that Nauto is alive after the Pain incident, but her moments are nothing compared to those of Sakura. To me, Sakura is beginning to look more and more like Naruto's wife - the woman who will support him through his most difficult trials and comfort him in his sadness - Sakura is the one who has made the greatest effort to not rely on him as much and instead support him, emotionally and physically.

I don't think Hinata understands Naruto that much. His smile changed her like he changed many others. He's showing the new power that she among else is very fond of. I liked the speech in 615, but the thing she did was just to reinforce his own ideals and tell him how they're willing to die for him. I don't think they can learn of eachother that way.

 

I find Sakura's view on Naruto much more endearing, because it's exceptional. No one thinks of him like she does. There are things only Sakura can do, things only she can say(630). Or else the others wouldn't have remained silent and listened, they had nothing to contribute.

 

Just because you have the same way of thinking/ninjaway doesn't mean you understand them. Hinata and Naruto have similar backgrounds, Naruto and Sakura too. (About the acknowledgement thingy) The reason Sakura understands him is not because they can relate to eachother. She is a very sympathic person. It's because she is always considerate to his feelings, she wants to know what he feels about this and that..it's like she is listening to his heart. :excited:

 

I would love an episode length or chapters that is only about NS, like they hang out and all. I noticed that a lot of manga does dedicate to one pairing, and usually it either draws a conclusion or route to it that needs one final push. NS already got them with the confession, but I believe the upside version is needed now.

I would love for cheesy OVA's like Rurouni Kenshin, just better. :smug:


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 01:59 AM

Inferno180: It is interesting how you note that Hinata will usually leech off of Naruto for support. Some people say that Sakura does not understand Nauro at all, and that Hinata does simply because she recites his nindo most of the time during her screen time (not today that Sakura has never been affected by his nindo, b/c she has) - however, what Sakura is trying to prevent from happening to Naruto is exactly what Hinata usually does, which is constantly relying on Naruto. I think that during the recent events in the war, Hinata is finally just beginning to make an effort to help out Naruto instead of needing him o help her out. However, Sakura has been trying to take off his burden from others relying on him for much longer (most notably seen during the Heaven and Earth bridge event). Sakura is the one who truly understands what Naruto is going through, and is the only one in the series (or at least the only female) to demonstrate her worry for HIS wellbeing. Sure Hinata has had her moments, like when she is thankful that Nauto is alive after the Pain incident, but her moments are nothing compared to those of Sakura. To me, Sakura is beginning to look more and more like Naruto's wife - the woman who will support him through his most difficult trials and comfort him in his sadness - Sakura is the one who has made the greatest effort to not rely on him as much and instead support him, emotionally and physically.


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She's been there since he beginning and wither him grow. She's seen his pain. And I personally think she's already chosen him like I said before and just needs to show it/express it more openly. But that's reserved for later in the series. I see more hints and moments that ll just make even more obvious, but final confirmation will towards the series finale.

I mean it's road to when narusaku will happen. Its all a matter of time now, just another year or twos worth of patience. And if being supportive of him and being there emotionally for him ain't enough for many ppl. Than I guess sakuras gotta step up with physically part. Heheh it you know what I mean :). Wink wink.


Yeah I meant a simple kiss, is all it's gonna take

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 02:07 AM

 
I would love for cheesy OVA's like Rurouni Kenshin, just better. :smug:

Lol well my point is that the manga most likely gets a NS chapter or two because there are many that has done so, good and/or bad.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:22 PM

With obitos recent pains, guess Madara becoming fully revived is going to occur unless something quick happens next chapter. If anything else, this happening will cancel out any temporary sakura deaths as others thought. The only remaining rinnegan possibility is if naruto gets it as jiriaya said the rinnegan would awaken in a period of great despair, the savior would come in great upheaval and disaster threatened the world. Just look at the battlefield now.

For all purposes ns may just be safe without the occurrences of any disasters but I still find that if naruto gets the rinnegan, it would seem strange. Jiriaya thought Nagato was the savior because the rinnegan awakened in him but it was really just madras awakening. With obitos current issue, makes next chapter exciting.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 01:07 PM

With obitos recent pains, guess Madara becoming fully revived is going to occur unless something quick happens next chapter. If anything else, this happening will cancel out any temporary sakura deaths as others thought. The only remaining rinnegan possibility is if naruto gets it as jiriaya said the rinnegan would awaken in a period of great despair, the savior would come in great upheaval and disaster threatened the world. Just look at the battlefield now.

For all purposes ns may just be safe without the occurrences of any disasters but I still find that if naruto gets the rinnegan, it would seem strange. Jiriaya thought Nagato was the savior because the rinnegan awakened in him but it was really just madras awakening. With obitos current issue, makes next chapter exciting.

Please no Rinnengan for Naruto. That'd be so OOC. Plus Uchihas are the ones with the strong eyes here... so please NO.

Well I guess that even if Madara is revived there's a chance that Sakura might get killed: Tsunade then would revive her using that reanimation technique Chiyo used on Gaara. Sakura has almost surpassed her teacher, the place for the next Hogake should be free plus Tsunade is the only Sannin that lives the other two are dead. We should also not forget that if it wasn't for Katsuyu and Oro she'd be dead by now.. Kishi gave her 2nd chance for some reason. When she finishes her job Kishi will give her a good death.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 01:40 PM

I see it more likely for naruto to die and get revived again at the moment. I dont see anything usefull in sakuras death and revive for the story right now. Narutos death at least would be a moment where sakuras shows her true feelings for him, and this would take the plot further.

 

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 01:47 PM

I see it more likely for naruto to die and get revived again at the moment. I dont see anything usefull in sakuras death and revive for the story right now. Narutos death at least would be a moment where sakuras shows her true feelings for him, and this would take the plot further.

 

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Kishi will most likely pull the Uniqlo OVA later, when Naruto vs Sasuke is going to take place.

Right now, though, if someone important is going to die (even though temporarily) it's probably going to be Sakura.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 01:52 PM

Kishi will most likely pull the Uniqlo OVA later, when Naruto vs Sasuke is going to take place.

Right now, though, if someone important is going to die (even though temporarily) it's probably going to be Sakura.

But what woud be the use of sakura dieing right now? It would be just random since the whole obito stuff seems to be out of the way right now.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 02:01 PM

But what woud be the use of sakura dieing right now? It would be just random since the whole obito stuff seems to be out of the way right now.

Well Madara is about to get revived + become the vessel of the Jyuubi. The only person capable of defeating such a beast was the SoSP.. It was hinted by Kishi that Naruto resembles that guy a lot (like the scene where Jyuubi sees the sage in Naruto), but he still lacks all the power. He needs some trigger to gain it, and a death (or a state close to it) of the person you love is a good way to go berserk.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 02:05 PM

Well Madara is about to get revived + become the vessel of the Jyuubi. The only person capable of defeating such a beast was the SoSP.. It was hinted by Kishi that Naruto resembles that guy a lot (like the scene where Jyuubi sees the sage in Naruto), but he still lacks all the power. He needs some trigger to gain it, and a death (or a state close to it) of the person you love is a good way to go berserk.

Im not sure if something like going angry is a way for someone to trigger the power of the sage.  As far as i know , the only way to become the next sage is to have all 9 bijuus sealed.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 02:10 PM

Im not sure if something like going angry is a way for someone to trigger the power of the sage.  As far as i know , the only way to become the next sage is to have all 9 bijuus sealed.

I'm not  saying that Naruto will become the next sage.. he just needs a way to power-up. And if you recall at a times when Sakura was in danger he was getting stronger and stronger: like the fight with Gaara.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 02:16 PM

I'm not  saying that Naruto will become the next sage.. he just needs a way to power-up. And if you recall at a times when Sakura was in danger he was getting stronger and stronger: like the fight with Gaara.

Yeah, but it would be a lot of asspulling if he would be able to beat someone sage like only with the help of "rage"  ^^

I mean gaara was one thing, but someone with a juubi sealed inside is somethig different, not to forget that sakura was still alive during the gaara fight.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 02:24 PM

Yeah, but it would be a lot of asspulling if he would be able to beat someone sage like only with the help of "rage"  ^^

I mean gaara was one thing, but someone with a juubi sealed inside is somethig different, not to forget that sakura was still alive during the gaara fight.

You answered it yourself... Gaara was a piece of Cake compared to Juubi+Madara. That's why Naruto needs a way to unleash that power.. plus he won't be fighting the guy alone: he has Sauce, edo!Kages and current Kages (who's on their way to battlefield atm). Camaraderie and bonds are the main subject of the manga... I'm not expecting Naruto to defeat Madara alone.

And why would it be "rage"? It would be a shock, a pain of loss etc... It doesn't matter actually. Even if Sakura lives and nothing happens to her Naruto needs a trigger to unleash that power.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 02:34 PM

You answered it yourself... Gaara was a piece of Cake compared to Juubi+Madara. That's why Naruto needs a way to unleash that power.. plus he won't be fighting the guy alone: he has Sauce, edo!Kages and current Kages (who's on their way to battlefield atm). Camaraderie and bonds are the main subject of the manga... I'm not expecting Naruto to defeat Madara alone.

And why would it be "rage"? It would be a shock, a pain of loss etc... It doesn't matter actually. Even if Sakura lives and nothing happens to her Naruto needs a trigger to unleash that power.

I think it would look a lot better if he gains a powerup without someone dieing. We already got that whole stuff with neji. Minato could also just give him the second half of the kyuubi chakra, problem solved. No need of someone dieing there.
 
it would feel out of place for me if the death of a main character was required just to give naruto a powerup.
Not mention how awkward it would be to see sakura dying and getting revived and then during the final fight with sasuke the same happens with naruto XD

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