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#3281 LuckyChi7

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Posted 04 July 2016 - 06:02 AM

Something feels a little weird like I know the announcement for Bleach manga ending came out, but I'm a bit curious why the Shounen Jump website hasn't said anything about it and especially with the Manga ending with Volume 74....

 

 

Ria and I were talking about this earlier today, and Not to get her hopes up, but she said Is it possible that we may get a Tokyo Ghoul effect where Bleach ends with some questions unanswered and then we get like a Tokyo Ghoul :re situation... After hearing that idea I was like well it sounds like an interesting idea, but I don't think Kubo will do that there's a chance he might do like a Naruto Gaiden type thing where he tries to wrap up the remaining plot lines in like 1 or two volumes...

 

 

 

This is actually something I've been thinking about for a while, but what if Kubo ends the series with Yhwach winning and the good guys loose. I mean that would be a pretty balsy move, but I can say it would be a creative nonetheless. What do you guys think?


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Posted 04 July 2016 - 06:22 AM

More like whose stink more.

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I agree.
Post aizen arc, bleach is not that interesting anymore.

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Posted 04 July 2016 - 03:17 PM

I disagree with that statement, Naruto's biggest problem stems from the ending, the manga itself was a better read than Bleach for the past five plus years. Naruto's story took a dip after the pain arc but remained enjoyable to read, it's just the ending that pretty much threw out any value the manga had by making the MC a hypocrite. Bleach has not been a fun read since before the Aizen battle, The fullbringer arc was OK, but this arc has been all over the place with enemies who are uninteresting and overpowered. The only interesting part of the manga had been the flashback with Ichigo's mother.

Not really. The ending was obviously a huge problem, but there were so many things wrong leading up to it. The focus on Sasuke, how the Hokage groveled at his feet, but didn't even bother to say much of anything to Naruto, even though he had it much worse and it was actually their fault (whereas the Uchiha incident wasn't directly their issue), the whole Madara puppet thing, Neji's death, Sasuke getting that ridiculous powerup, the entire LOI arc, Sakura manipulating Naruto...etc.

Bleach has had issues, but Naruto had far worse issues leading up to the end. I've enjoyed most of what Bleach has done, moreso than I did the last third of Naruto.

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Posted 04 July 2016 - 03:23 PM

Not really. The ending was obviously a huge problem, but there were so many things wrong leading up to it. The focus on Sasuke, how the Hokage groveled at his feet, but didn't even bother to say much of anything to Naruto, even though he had it much worse and it was actually their fault (whereas the Uchiha incident wasn't directly their issue), the whole Madara puppet thing, Neji's death, Sasuke getting that ridiculous powerup, the entire LOI arc, Sakura manipulating Naruto...etc.

Bleach has had issues, but Naruto had far worse issues leading up to the end. I've enjoyed most of what Bleach has done, moreso than I did the last third of Naruto.

 

 

Very true. 

 

 

So what's your stance on the manga ending within this current volume? Be it a positive or negative in terms of story.


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Posted 04 July 2016 - 04:19 PM

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The manga focus on sasuke is inevitable and not bad when he doesn't out shine naruto which he did. And sasuke get power up should be expect because he's naruto equal, albeit it has many asspull and not well written.

Bleach suffer from writting aspect since hueco mundo and after aizen defeat it has lost it's charm in term of storytelling. It still has the cool factor thought, unlike naruto imo.

And with how many chapters left, I think it could be much worse than naruto.

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 04:22 AM

You know there's one way you can have Bleach end in 5 chapters, and thats Yhwach winning. That is probably as statisfying of an ending I think anyone can easily accept. To me it would be a ballsy move on Kubo's part, but I think an ending like that will be impactful. Will it happen? That's something we're just gonna have to wait and see. 

 

 

Besides if there is one thing I know about this final arc with Kubo unlike Kishi  :down: , He and Jump and especially Sueisha haven' been on the best of terms for a long time. I don't remember which article it was, but Kubo said in an old interview he wanted the thousand year blood war flashback to come in, and Aizen to have a huge role when it came to this arc in particular. plus the most important part is he wanted this finale arc to be longer than the Arrancar Arc, and we're not getting that. I know some of you may have discussed it, but Jump's behind this they just don't give a kitten about Bleach and that's why I believe we're getting the five week notice simply because ranking wise Bleach wasn't doing that well. Although it did jump from like third to last place to like 14 or 13 in the rankings for this week's chapter or something like that I don't know.  All I know is that this was never Kubo's intention, and you know what regardless of how the ending turns out for Bleach I'm willing to give Kubo another chance with whatever he comes up with next cause he honestly deserves it. 

 

So all i got say until is let's just see how things wrap up.


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Posted 07 July 2016 - 10:35 AM

pathetic inconsistent character. i can't wait for this to end so i won't have to watch this character quit all the time when he hits a little bump on the road.


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Posted 07 July 2016 - 11:01 AM

I'm assuming you're referring to Ichigo.

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 11:16 AM

Huh.......so orihime could fix ichigo's tensa zangetsu......well at least one of my theory's came true T_T

Kubo......at least give us one more ichigo X Rukia interaction before the end. Anything would be fine up to this point lol

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 11:31 AM

Huh.......so orihime could fix ichigo's tensa zangetsu......well at least one of my theory's came true T_T

Kubo......at least give us one more ichigo X Rukia interaction before the end. Anything would be fine up to this point lol

 

My theory is that we're gonna get an interaction between the two of them in like the final chapter. I've noticed he likes closing the arcs between the two of them if we look back on the Substitute Arc, Soul Society Arc, Arrancar Arc, FullBring, Kubo's pattern is there when it comes to Ichigo and Rukia pairing related or not. 

 

 

 

 

Anyway time to see  what unfolds in this chapter for me: 

 

 


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Posted 07 July 2016 - 11:43 AM

 
My theory is that we're gonna get an interaction between the two of them in like the final chapter. I've noticed he likes closing the arcs between the two of them if we look back on the Substitute Arc, Soul Society Arc, Arrancar Arc, FullBring, Kubo's pattern is there when it comes to Ichigo and Rukia pairing related or not. 
 
 
 
 
Anyway time to see  what unfolds in this chapter for me: 
 
 


Yeah I agree with that lol

Personally I wanted the two of them fighting along side each other against Ywach in their bankai states, to see the contrast between them again (ichigo/black and Rukia/white). Wishful thinking on my part but it doesn't hurt to dream lol

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 11:53 AM

I swear, having Rukia by Orihime's side felt more of a safe zone.

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 11:57 AM

Yeah I agree with that lol

Personally I wanted the two of them fighting along side each other against Ywach in their bankai states, to see the contrast between them again (ichigo/black and Rukia/white). Wishful thinking on my part but it doesn't hurt to dream lol

 

 

About Damn time Ginjou and Tsukishima showed up!!

 

 

I thought the chapter was okay nothing too great, but nothing I can say kitten.. I do like that Tsukishima was the one to have been the reason for getting Ichigo's Zanpakuto fixed, but at the same time I get were some people are like "Seriously?" so I'm kinda neutral on that sense. 

 

 

Kubo did also purposefully skip Rukia's immediate reaction to Ichigo on the ground after Yhwach left so that tells me he's saving their moment for the end. 


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Posted 07 July 2016 - 12:06 PM

I don't think Bleach will have any parings canon. it's going to be an open ending regarding the ships!


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Posted 07 July 2016 - 12:10 PM

I don't think Bleach will have any parings canon. it's going to be an open ending regarding the ships!

 

Honestly I'll take that option more than anything!!

 

 

 

Also I hope this isn't all Tsukishima and Ginjou do as far as their return goes cause if this is all they were brought back to do then it was kinda pointless. So I'm just gonna wait and see how things progress in the remaining chapters. 


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Posted 07 July 2016 - 12:20 PM

 

Honestly I'll take that option more than anything!!

 

It's authors safest route imo. He'll avoid 90% backlash. the fans can all go their way.

 

On another thing. Is Bleach selling/ratings that low that Jump forced the ending? Or is Jump once again messing/ruining like that did with Naruto? Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if Jump forced a ship to be canon.

 

What are Bleach most popular (not counting yaoi) ships in Japan and outside? Since we know it was fans outside of Japan that forced the Naruto end!


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Posted 07 July 2016 - 12:26 PM

I truly think Kubo just wants to end it especially at the milestone number that is apparently popular (700). Well, at this rate, it's a cursed number.

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 12:33 PM

I truly think Kubo just wants to end it especially at the milestone number that is apparently popular (700). Well, at this rate, it's a cursed number.

 

Honestly I wouldn't blame him given how much his editors and especially Jump have given him alot of kitten!! If anything I get the feelin Kubo just wants to get away from Jump cause he's had it. 

 

 

 

And like I said I feel bad that he won't be able to wrap up all the plot points that he wanted to cover in this arc simply because Jump.

 

 

 

 

 

It's authors safest route imo. He'll avoid 90% backlash. the fans can all go their way.

 

On another thing. Is Bleach selling/ratings that low that Jump forced the ending? Or is Jump once again messing/ruining like that did with Naruto? Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if Jump forced a ship to be canon.

 

What are Bleach most popular (not counting yaoi) ships in Japan and outside? Since we know it was fans outside of Japan that forced the Naruto end!

 

The Volumes were selling pretty decent and I think Volume 70-72 were like in ranks between 1st and 3rd place in terms of sales. 


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Posted 07 July 2016 - 12:38 PM

So Jump decided. Sigh......there is a feeling I have we'll have another Naruto at our hands. Forced ending/battle/hax power ups/ruined characterization/forced ship/no explanations etc etc!  


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Posted 07 July 2016 - 12:41 PM

Only AssClass got it right and I wasn't even following.






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