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[Evil Potato]

Getting off topic a little, I just went to the anti-NaruSaku forums on NF. I must say, its very interesting how people can dedicate many hours in their day hating on something that just so happens to be fiction. In fact, from some of the posts I've seen, its quite creepy. These people have a ton of anger that they take out on a fictional couple (granted its better than taking it out on others...I guess).

Anyways, as much as I wanted to get on the website and give them advice about supporting something and just being indifferent to this couple, I didn't...

The biggest argument I think they have is that Naruto is somehow guilting Sakura into loving him. However this argument can be easily ignored due to how the manga goes, it still is aggravating that people actually believe NaruSaku is worse than sin.

No one has to reply to this, I'm just giving my thoughts on the anti-ns subject, but still reply if you have something you would like to say.

[fireandice]

@firegirl

Okaayyy the first quote is kind of weird, the logic is all over the place...From what I can gather, they're trying to say whatever happened between Sasuke and Sakura in the past e.g Part 1 still has significance, as a rebuttal to those who point out Naruto and Sakura's recent interactions have shown the development of not-so-platonic love, and how SasuSaku doesn't have much development in Part 2.

The second quote is abit of excessive extrapolation. Yes, Sasuke's flashback of his team could show that deep down, he did miss them, and that he wasn't completely beyond salvation. But now? After the attack on the Kage summit? I think there's something different from the Sasuke at Unraikyo who tried to save Karin then the Sasuke who told Karin not to bother about Suigetsu and Juugo. Now even then, the fact that Sasuke thought about team 7, that doesn't expressly single out Sakura and is abit of overreading things IMO.

Calm down, there are reasonable SasuSaku fans too There are tards in every fandom, that's all. Actually, for me, I find SasuSaku a more reasonable pairing then NaruHina since they DID actually have more interactions then NaruHina

BTW I love your sig, where did you find that

[firegirl]

@firegirl

Okaayyy the first quote is kind of weird, the logic is all over the place...From what I can gather, they're trying to say whatever happened between Sasuke and Sakura in the past e.g Part 1 still has significance, as a rebuttal to those who point out Naruto and Sakura's recent interactions have shown the development of not-so-platonic love, and how SasuSaku doesn't have much development in Part 2.

The second quote is abit of excessive extrapolation. Yes, Sasuke's flashback of his team could show that deep down, he did miss them, and that he wasn't completely beyond salvation. But now? After the attack on the Kage summit? I think there's something different from the Sasuke at Unraikyo who tried to save Karin then the Sasuke who told Karin not to bother about Suigetsu and Juugo. Now even then, the fact that Sasuke thought about team 7, that doesn't expressly single out Sakura and is abit of overreading things IMO.

Calm down, there are reasonable SasuSaku fans too There are tards in every fandom, that's all. Actually, for me, I find SasuSaku a more reasonable pairing then NaruHina since they DID actually have more interactions then NaruHina

BTW I love your sig ;, where did you find that

excatly people are not seeing the present sasuke(i think their worst then naruto) but sasuke only cared about sakura as a teamate and not as a pontetual lover

oh the sig new somebody would like it imageshack

also has anybody ever thought of the uchiha clan lifestyle for women it seems to be more submmisve and arranged marrige type of thing(same with the huyugas)

because of sakura development i dont think her and sasuke would be a good couple sasuke would only try to control and want her for babys, sakura is tooo independent now to even think of just being an housewife. naruto would not comeplety contro and would allow her to still be independent(its scary that sasusaku create fanfics of sakura just being an wife )

seriouly it gets anoying SAKURA IS AN INDEPEDENT WOMAN NOW SHE WOULD NOT WANT TO BE LIKE THE UCHIHA WOMEN

Edited by firegirl, 13 January 2010 - 03:25 AM.

[RedDelicious]

I don't want to say all, but a fair number of anti-Sakura posters seem to be locked into this "past == present" mind frame. Their initial impression of Sakura is that she is a horrible person and a weak shinobi, and nothing that happens will change that. When Sakura is kind to Naruto, they rationalize that she is manipulating him (because she is a horrible person). When she does good in battle, they complain that her opponent was just nerfed (because Sakura is a weak ninja).

These people (and the Sasuke fans that firegirl is mentioning) need to go back to the chunin exam chapters, to learn that things do change. In particular, the fight with Neji, where Naruto points out that his greatest ability (making clones) used to be his greatest liability in school.

Or they should read the current chapters, --Click here to view--

where Naruto finds out that living in the past (his worldview distorted by memories of Team 7) is the wrong way to live in the present.

[Devil Keyz]

lol i think she's a very powerful shinobi, i don't think Sasori was nerfed

[ciardha]

lol i think she's a very powerful shinobi, i don't think Sasori was nerfed

Yep, she's supposed to surpass Tsunade eventually (and Chiyo said she was already superior to Tsunade when Tsunade was her age.) Of course the same people that trash Sakura also trash Tsunade as the "worst Hokage". Which shows you exactly where their mindset comes from. No, the worst Hokage was the 3rd, as good and wise a man as he was. Tsunade knew to not trust Danzo, she knew what to do to make the alliance with Suna really strong, not just words on paper, she brought Konoha back from the major devestation caused by Orochimaru's attack in less than three year, made Konoha back to being a force to be reckoned with. Gaara hasn't been able to achieve as much in Suna, even with Konoha's help, and him being a good Kazekage.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Yep, she's supposed to surpass Tsunade eventually (and Chiyo said she was already superior to Tsunade when Tsunade was her age.) Of course the same people that trash Sakura also trash Tsunade as the "worst Hokage". Which shows you exactly where their mindset comes from. No, the worst Hokage was the 3rd, as good and wise a man as he was. Tsunade knew to not trust Danzo, she knew what to do to make the alliance with Suna really strong, not just words on paper, she brought Konoha back from the major devestation caused by Orochimaru's attack in less than three year, made Konoha back to being a force to be reckoned with. Gaara hasn't been able to achieve as much in Suna, even with Konoha's help, and him being a good Kazekage.

I'm sure Sakura's well on her way to surpassing Tsunade. I do see what you mean about Hiruzen, but at the same time, we saw how quick he was to want to fix the mistake he made of letting Orochimaru live. Of course, you gotta wonder if her actions of helping with the Leaf Village so much is why Koharu and Homura don't trust her, not just her apparent "inexperience" and her being Hiruzen's student.

And besides, Sakura has been able to do a lot thanks to training with Tsunade, even if we haven't seen the FULL extent of what she can do now. I hope we'll get to see that sooner or later so that perhaps the Skaura haters'll SHUT UP finally, though I doubt it's that simple.

Bryon

[Gravenimage]

I'm sure now that Kishi is going to focus on Sakura's heroine role (after he stops giving Sasuke so much power ) we'll see some of her moves perhaps she has already signed the slug contract. Kishi can make that as a surprise in his manga just like he did with Sasuke's hawk summon.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I'm sure now that Kishi is going to focus on Sakura's heroine role (after he stops giving Sasuke so much power ) we'll see some of her moves perhaps she has already signed the slug contract. Kishi can make that as a surprise in his manga just like he did with Sasuke's hawk summon.

Yeah, I was hoping Tsunade would have taught Sakura the Summoning Jutsu as one new Jutsu besides medical ninjutsu. And since Sakura has such good chakra control, she could likely be more skilled in it than Naruto or Sasuke have been. Considering out of all of Squad 7, she was the best at controlling her chakra as a kid.

Bryon

[ciardha]

Yeah, I was hoping Tsunade would have taught Sakura the Summoning Jutsu as one new Jutsu besides medical ninjutsu. And since Sakura has such good chakra control, she could likely be more skilled in it than Naruto or Sasuke have been. Considering out of all of Squad 7, she was the best at controlling her chakra as a kid.

Bryon

My guess that she hasn't used it so far because Katsuya is the sole slug that can be summoned. Katsuya can divide herself up to almost infinity once summoned but she always appears as a single huge slug. What leads credence to this is Shizune has not been shown to be able to summon Katsuya either. But with Tsunade still in a coma Sakura may be able to summon Katsuya.

[Strangelove]

Well, i think Tsunade might be dead, considering that whenever a Kage dies, he or she does so in battle, and usually to protect his or her own people. So Kakashi will become the new Kage, and i think he will die in a confrontation with Madara.

And yes Sakura should be able to summon Katsuya...the manga just hasn't had the chance to make her summon her, and im seeing a trend here...Tsunade is dead/comma. Danzo wanted to be Kage [failed again] now it seems Kakashi is the new Kage, which is the teacher to Naruto.

In many ways we could correlate this even further.

Danzo = Danzo
Kakashi = the 3rd.
Naruto = Minato and Jiraiya combination.

Edited by Strangelove, 14 January 2010 - 03:37 AM.

[Devil Keyz]

Yep, she's supposed to surpass Tsunade eventually (and Chiyo said she was already superior to Tsunade when Tsunade was her age.) Of course the same people that trash Sakura also trash Tsunade as the "worst Hokage". Which shows you exactly where their mindset comes from. No, the worst Hokage was the 3rd, as good and wise a man as he was. Tsunade knew to not trust Danzo, she knew what to do to make the alliance with Suna really strong, not just words on paper, she brought Konoha back from the major devestation caused by Orochimaru's attack in less than three year, made Konoha back to being a force to be reckoned with. Gaara hasn't been able to achieve as much in Suna, even with Konoha's help, and him being a good Kazekage.

To be honest, i think Sakura may have already passed Tsunade, in terms of shinobi Combat skills anyway. She put away the 2nd ( i think ) Kazekage, withstanded his iron sand and whooped Sasori's ass about 2+ times. AND that fight with Sasori was the longest fight in Naruto to date lol

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

I don't want to say all, but a fair number of anti-Sakura posters seem to be locked into this "past == present" mind frame. Their initial impression of Sakura is that she is a horrible person and a weak shinobi, and nothing that happens will change that. When Sakura is kind to Naruto, they rationalize that she is manipulating him (because she is a horrible person). When she does good in battle, they complain that her opponent was just nerfed (because Sakura is a weak ninja).

These people (and the Sasuke fans that firegirl is mentioning) need to go back to the chunin exam chapters, to learn that things do change. In particular, the fight with Neji, where Naruto points out that his greatest ability (making clones) used to be his greatest liability in school.

Or they should read the current chapters, --Click here to view--

where Naruto finds out that living in the past (his worldview distorted by memories of Team 7) is the wrong way to live in the present.

I agree Red. I really dont know why SS fans like as a single character. I meant NH fans are populated by(mostly) Hinata fans, while SS for Sasuke?
I kinda doubt if they care so much for Sakura, they must know who had a positive influence on her, and that is Naruto.

Edited by pinkheartsyellowstars, 14 January 2010 - 03:43 AM.

[ciardha]

Well, i think Tsunade might be dead,

No, she's in a coma. It's in the manga. Sakura and Shizune just don't know when she'll wake up. Danzo got himself appointed as a Hokage candidate because of that uncertainty. Tsunade will eventually wake up. I'm wondering if Sakura will make some sort of medical breakthrough that will allow Tsunade to wake up. (I'm thinking about how Tsunade was able to wake Sasuke from a coma with ease that none of the medic nins in Konoha had been able to, and how Tsunade made the breakthrough that healed Lee. Sakura already showed how impressive a medic nin she is by curing Kankuro with relative ease, when Chiyo or Suna's other medic nins hadn't been able to. Sakura came up with an antidote in seconds...)

[Devil Keyz]

^ like i said, i think she may have already passed Tsunade.

[TwilightLink20xx]

^Medically perhaps, but Sakura still has a thing or two to learn in terms of elements. After that though, I'd agree that Sakura has fully surpassed Tsunade. It's just a matter of waiting to see if Sakura will get that power up or not.

[firegirl]

soundwerd when sakura says agfirls feelings change like the atum skys when it comes to if shes telling the truth

i think she said that to lighten up the situation since she lookd uncounforable when naruto pulled away from her, and did not like the way he looked after her confession(woulndt anyone would try to make a joke after seeing someone looking at u like that)

[Strangelove]

we still talking about her confession? xDD