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#32941 elmas

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 03:43 PM

But..... What ???? He will get redeemed ? Well that much is clear Sasuke will get it on a silver plate like he gets everything in this manga  there is so much fail in here that I can't even begin to explain it :facepalm: . The only saving grace now it would be like Kakashi said no more kitten 7 in the end  please I can't stand to see this team with him anymore its freaking disgusting  :sick: T7 with Sai is much better and no character has to suffer bc of that like Naruto and Sakura does with Sasuke's  just bring Sai back for the love of god or don't form T7 again that's all I want .

You already answered it yourself :D Yeah he will get redeemed.*Sigh*Kishi*sigh*


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 03:57 PM

 

On the contrary.  We have to take it face value.  To do otherwise means you're rejecting his statement on the presumption that it must mean something else, even though there is absolutely no proof that it does or reason why it would mean something other than what it means.

 

Kishimoto has several tried and true expository characters.  (A character who is used to explain or convey important details to the reader in a concise fashion.)  In terms of Team 7, specifically, he has used Kakashi and Sai to great effect. It is for that reason that Kakashi's words (Sai's and Yamato's too, for that matter) have more weight and accuracy.

 

I am ashamed to admit how much this made me laugh.   :lulz:

 

No, no, no.  Kishimoto is not undecided.  He hasn't been since Chapter 3.  

 

The reason for Naruto's hesitation has been asked and answered out here many times.  Don't worry.  Even if Kishimoto were to choose to torture us all with one more sadistic round of shipping confusion, NS is still the logical conclusion.

 

There is absolutely ZERO reason to think Naruto meant Hinata in #691.  The construction of the entire scene and dialogue makes no sense if he's not talking about Sakura.

 

Now.  On to something I've been thinking about....

 

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In this chapter, Kurama goes on to say, "I may not see you again... But I warn you... Don't kill Naruto... you'll end up regretting..."

 

This is a pretty significant prediction.

 

Since Kishimoto belabored the point that Naruto contains some chakra of all the tailed beasts and they will be able to meet within him any time they want, is it possible that they will be able to meet inside Naruto a form a plan of attack to break Sasuke's hold on them?

 

Personally, I would LOVE to see Kurama get his revenge on the Uchiha who have manipulated him all this time.

You're not the only one.

Maybe we will get that, we shall see. In the latest chapter Kurama was going to squash Sasuke like a bug, but of course Sasuke escapes death once again.

 

Team 7 is going to have a forceful happy ending, so just accept it early so when you finally take it in it will be less painful to read. Plenty of people in the series have made good cases as to why Sasuke should just die and tbh certain characters would be better off without him in the series. But like I said before, there will be a happy ending. Naruto will cease the cycle of hatred, save his friend without killing him, get the girl and become Hokage. This has been in the making for years. Tnj will solve everything.

 

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I've accepted it long ago, but I still hope we're going to get a realistic ending, not a fairytale ending.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 04:03 PM

Only if Sasuke comes to Team 7 begging and pleading for forgiveness like Zuko will I be able to accept that he's changed.


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 04:07 PM

Only if Sasuke comes to Team 7 begging and pleading for forgiveness like Zuko will I be able to accept that he's changed.


Sasuke: Hi. Sasuke here.

That's already a glitch in that. Yeah, I said it.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 04:09 PM

Only if Sasuke comes to Team 7 begging and pleading for forgiveness like Zuko will I be able to accept that he's changed.

Zuko still acted like an arse in the group when he mocked Aang's ideology when it was his very ideology that led Zuko to be forgiven and accepted into the group. I still can't imagine Sasuke grovelling like Zuko xD.


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 04:10 PM

I've accepted it long ago, but I still hope we're going to get a realistic ending, not a fairytale ending.

 

Unfortunately, I have to agree with Sasuke's essentially certain redemption.  I have no idea how Naruto is suddenly going to reach him and affect Sasuke's heart, but somehow he will.

 

Maybe it won't be a goody-goody dream of bliss, though.  Maybe Sasuke will conclude -- based on his own supreme wisdom, of course -- that Naruto is right.  Maybe Sasuke will be bested by Naruto and simply agree to quit fighting, then wander off with Taka and Orochimaru to seek their fortune elsewhere.

 

I don't know.  I just don't get what the movie will be about if Naruto solves every problem in his world.  Maybe what will be open-ended is whether or not Sasuke will truly let go of his revenge over time, or if it will be left as a vaguely unresolved issue.

 

I'm really curious, too, about the bandage on Naruto's hand in the sketches for the new movie.  Do he and Sasuke collaborate one last time and then the rift is permanently closed or something?  Like... the seals on their hands are burns that never heal or something?

 

In a world as fantastical as this one, and with an author willing to cut the corners of believability even within that world, anything is possible without having to make a ton of sense.



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Posted 17 September 2014 - 04:12 PM

Question: if Sasuke does die (just go with it) what would be your shock level? Mine would be Patrick Star level.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 04:17 PM

Question: if Sasuke does die (just go with it) what would be your shock level? Mine would be Patrick Star level.

I wouldn't be that shocked cuz I want him to be dead actually and I'm ready but I'd be surprised cuz I wouldn't expect Kishi to make him die .


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 04:22 PM

Question: if Sasuke does die (just go with it) what would be your shock level? Mine would be Patrick Star level.


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 04:30 PM

^Perfect choice.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 04:38 PM

We think alike my friend. This is exactly how I would react and maybe do a few dance steps as well  :chuckle:

 


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 04:38 PM

Question: if Sasuke does die (just go with it) what would be your shock level? Mine would be Patrick Star level.

Its funny you should ask.

 

Ever since the Hebi arc where he betrayed Orochimaru he was my favorite character in the show and I was constantly hoping he wouldn't die then things started to decline when he ended up becoming Tobi's pawn as well (Orochimaru's was atleast excusible because he ended up betraying him but there's just so many times Sasuke can say "I'm using them not the other way around" when he's constantly being manipulated by nearly every villain in the series) now ever since the LOI arc its been a constant decline, his characterization in this whole war arc has completely killed his character for me now I just want him to go away already I am so tired of naruto being depressed Sasuke's not around to the point where he can't even have fun with his friends who actually do give a kitten about him. (as shown in the RTN special)


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 04:44 PM

Today was the last chapter for Historys Strongest Disciple Kenichi Manga (chapter 583)

 
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The author end up with open ending (harem)

 

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Then the last page he draw a couple pic (main boy X main girl) get married

 

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I hope Kishi doesn't do like that for NARUTO manga  :ermm:

What is the possibility of Kishimoto  showing NS as a  censored couple?   If Kishimoto do that NS would be second and my first was Kyo and Honda from Fruit Basket.


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 04:52 PM

Thanks for answers, guys.

I wonder why mangaka does that. Not showing their faces. I mean it's still clear who ended with who. But, why do that?

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 04:55 PM

Thanks for answers, guys.

I wonder why mangaka does that. Not showing their faces. I mean it's still clear who ended with who. But, why do that?

Hideous face?


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 04:56 PM

Hideous face?

Lol I guess. It's similar to kiss. Some refuse to draw one.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:03 PM

Thanks for answers, guys.

I wonder why mangaka does that. Not showing their faces. I mean it's still clear who ended with who. But, why do that?

Maybe no sketches just for that moment. Imaging Kishimoto showing NS in old age just holdings hands without showing their faces or showing their children.


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:19 PM

God when are people going accept that Sasuke doesn't care about Sakura?

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:27 PM

 

Unfortunately, I have to agree with Sasuke's essentially certain redemption.  I have no idea how Naruto is suddenly going to reach him and affect Sasuke's heart, but somehow he will.

 

Maybe it won't be a goody-goody dream of bliss, though.  Maybe Sasuke will conclude -- based on his own supreme wisdom, of course -- that Naruto is right.  Maybe Sasuke will be bested by Naruto and simply agree to quit fighting, then wander off with Taka and Orochimaru to seek their fortune elsewhere.

 

I don't know.  I just don't get what the movie will be about if Naruto solves every problem in his world.  Maybe what will be open-ended is whether or not Sasuke will truly let go of his revenge over time, or if it will be left as a vaguely unresolved issue.

 

I'm really curious, too, about the bandage on Naruto's hand in the sketches for the new movie.  Do he and Sasuke collaborate one last time and then the rift is permanently closed or something?  Like... the seals on their hands are burns that never heal or something?

 

In a world as fantastical as this one, and with an author willing to cut the corners of believability even within that world, anything is possible without having to make a ton of sense.

Never underestimate the power of Naruto's TNJ. It will be badly done, but Naruto's speech to Sasuke will move him and he'll be a good guy. Please God don't let this happen.

 

Right now to be honest I have no clue what's Sasuke fate. The foreshadowing of Sasuke dying is there, but like I said before, the more the story advances the more I doubt it.

 

About Naruto's hand, my guess is that we'll get one last clash between Chidori and Rasengan. Where both of them use all they got.

 

About the bold part, sad but true. There's a good chance of getting an end that doesn't really make sense.

 

Question: if Sasuke does die (just go with it) what would be your shock level? Mine would be Patrick Star level.

Well I don't know about mine, yet. However I do know Naruto's shock/reaction level :

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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:35 PM

Never underestimate the power of Naruto's TNJ. It will be badly done, but Naruto's speech to Sasuke will move him and he'll be a good guy. Please God don't let this happen.

 

Right now to be honest I have no clue what's Sasuke fate. The foreshadowing of Sasuke dying is there, but like I said before, the more the story advances the more I doubt it.

 

About Naruto's hand, my guess is that we'll get one last clash between Chidori and Rasengan. Where both of them use all they got.

 

About the bold part, sad but true. There's a good chance of getting an end that doesn't really make sense.

 

Well I don't know about mine, yet. However I do know Naruto's shock/reaction level :

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Lol.Naruto'll be so sad cuz his waifu is dead...Oh My Gosh!Naruto,don't worry you can make a bunshin and change it to Sasuke.Or worse .....there's Hinata for you!


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