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[elmas]

@darkradeon
The purpose of ch 631 is to show that naruto still love sakura.
It didn't make NS canon. And it show that NS is complicated.
Since sakura is more than friend and less than a lover.

Exactly.When 615 happened NH fans said Naruto doesn't love her so 631 showed that Naruto STILL loves Sakura.

[Gravenimage]

DarkRadeon@ I stopped reading Kenichi a long time ago but since the beginning of the manga there hints that Kenichi likes Miu, the anime also showed hints of such. So yeah the pairing was very predictable just like NS, funny that the anti Keni/Miu fans kept saying they had a "sibling relationship" (sounds very familiar to another shounen pairing lol). Another thing Kishi is not undecided of making NS canon he's only teasing he has given plenty of hints of who will get together with Naruto.

[rocci]

@gravenimage
In shonen manga, When the protagonist like/love the love interest.
The outcome of this would be protagonist x love interest or open ending.

[KnS]

As for Kakashi's statement you can't take that at face value. 

 

On the contrary.  We have to take it face value.  To do otherwise means you're rejecting his statement on the presumption that it must mean something else, even though there is absolutely no proof that it does or reason why it would mean something other than what it means.

 

Kishimoto has several tried and true expository characters.  (A character who is used to explain or convey important details to the reader in a concise fashion.)  In terms of Team 7, specifically, he has used Kakashi and Sai to great effect. It is for that reason that Kakashi's words (Sai's and Yamato's too, for that matter) have more weight and accuracy.

And sasuke will impregnant sakura just with eye contact.
I mean you have magic eye ball who cheat death, make a girl pregnant is not a big deal right!?

 

I am ashamed to admit how much this made me laugh.  

Kishi seems undecided as of yet because he didnt have Naruto says Sakura's name in 691 which makes it seem as though 631 girlfriend comment was really a joke.

 

No, no, no.  Kishimoto is not undecided.  He hasn't been since Chapter 3.  

 

The reason for Naruto's hesitation has been asked and answered out here many times.  Don't worry.  Even if Kishimoto were to choose to torture us all with one more sadistic round of shipping confusion, NS is still the logical conclusion.

 

There is absolutely ZERO reason to think Naruto meant Hinata in #691.  The construction of the entire scene and dialogue makes no sense if he's not talking about Sakura.

 

Now.  On to something I've been thinking about....

 

 

In this chapter, Kurama goes on to say, "I may not see you again... But I warn you... Don't kill Naruto... you'll end up regretting..."

 

This is a pretty significant prediction.

 

Since Kishimoto belabored the point that Naruto contains some chakra of all the tailed beasts and they will be able to meet within him any time they want, is it possible that they will be able to meet inside Naruto and form a plan of attack to break Sasuke's hold on them?

 

Personally, I would LOVE to see Kurama get his revenge on the Uchiha who have manipulated him all this time.

[TouKen4Life3g]

For those who wonders "Why cover faces?" Thats because well I don't know exactly but this isn't the first time that has happen. Part of me want to say it's because they decide not to show the face of a grown up character(s). I don't know why but that's how they think. Fruit Basket did the same. You only see their back, but you got the idea who's who when you read the manga. Not like they will change their mind and decide to go plan B, which is dumb.

Now, there are series that do show their faces in a different time zone. It's up to the mangaka to do so. It feels like the one that will show it are the one that aren't afraid to draw grown up characters. Seeing the Last designs, clearly Kishi isn't afraid to show grown up characters. In other words, we will see their picture visible.

So yes, Kenichi is not open ending.

[TheQueenB]

So, a thought- well, another question, more like- just occurred to me: As we know, Naruto admitted that his reason for being unable to confess to Sakura was that he hadn't been able to make good on his promise, up until now, the implication of which could be that as soon as he makes good on that promise, he'll find himself able to do so. To a certain extent, Sakura effectively released him from it in the Land of Iron, but, on the other, but Naruto clearly doesn't want to move on, nonetheless, until he's rescued Sasuke. Do you guys think that, now, Naruto will want to confess to Sakura, since they're in a more precarious situation? Or do you think that after everything is resolved, he'll finally be able to do it? On that note, if Sasuke dies or something happens to him, would Naruto muster the courage to do so? If Sakura tries approaching him again, would he accept her, especially in the event that something happens to Sasuke?

 

Err...Sorry for my senseless ramblings and poorly phrased questions. 

[ns.Believe.It]

 

On the contrary.  We have to take it face value.  To do otherwise means you're rejecting his statement on the presumption that it must mean something else when there is absolutely no proof that it does or reason why it would mean something other than what it means.

 

Kishimoto has several tried and true expository characters.  (If you don't know what that means, it's a character who is used to explain or convey important details to the reader in a concise fashion.)  In terms of Team 7, specifically, he has used Kakashi and Sai to great effect. It is for that reason that Kakashi's words (Sai's and Yamato's too, for that matter) carry more weight.

 

I am ashamed to admit how much this made me laugh.  

 

No, no, no.  Kishimoto is not undecided.  He hasn't been since Chapter 3.  

 

The reason for Naruto's hesitation has been asked and answered out here many times.  Don't worry.  Even if Kishimoto were to choose to torture us all with one more sadistic round of shipping confusion, NS is still the logical conclusion.

 

There is absolutely ZERO reason to think Naruto meant Hinata in #691.  The construction of the entire scene and dialogue cannot make sense if it's not Sakura.

 

Now.  On to something I've been thinking about....

 

 

In this chapter, Kurama goes on to say, "I may not see you again... But I warn you... Don't kill Naruto... you'll end up regretting..."

 

This is a pretty significant prediction.

 

Since Kishimoto belabored the point that Naruto contains some chakra of all the tailed beasts and they will be able to meet within him any time they want. is it possible that they will be able to meet inside Naruto a form a plan of attack to break Sasuke's hold on them?

 

Personally, I would LOVE to see Kurama get his revenge on the Uchiha who have manipulated him all this time.

Me too. Though the major culprit in this particular case is Obito. I really wanted a lot of people to get revenge on Obito but we all know how that ended. He died a Hero, a 'Cool' guy 

 

All these Uchihas, they have done nothing but cause misery to everyone in the manga. Tbf reading about them brings misery even to us, readers. Sometimes I wish Kishimoto never introduced this crazy clan. The Narutoverse would be a helluva lot better if the Uchihas never existed.

[elmas]

Do you guys think that, now, Naruto will want to confess to Sakura, since they're in a more precarious situation? Or do you think that after everything is resolved, he'll finally be able to do it? 

 

I think Naruto won't confess to her untill Sasuke redeems.I mean to Sakura Poal isn't that important unlike Naruto right now.She cares about his safety more.But Naruto still thinks he needs to keep his promise to Sakura.He wants to save Sasuke but he also cares about the promise.So he will confess to her if Sasuke comes back at the end.At least I think like that .

 

On that note, if Sasuke dies or something happens to him, would Naruto muster the courage to do so? If Sakura tries approaching him again, would he accept her, especially in the event that something happens to Sasuke?

 

Well if Sasuke dies because of Naruto,he will feel very bad.He will still love Sakura but will be 2nd J-man.He'll never confess to her.But if Sasuke dies like Nagato then he will be depressed,feel bad but won't give up.He will still love her but will confess someday in my opinion.

[luffyq1]

Sasuke's not going to die.

[elmas]

Sasuke's not going to die.

Preach!

[TheQueenB]

Sasuke's not going to die.

 

I don't think so, either, but I still think it's important to consider the possibility, nonetheless. Kishi can still pull anything and everything.  

[elmas]

 

I don't think so, either, but I still think it's important to consider the possibility, nonetheless. Kishi can still pull anything and everything.  

I think he should die but Kishi can make a happy ending too.So my expectations are low...

[TheQueenB]

I think he should die but Kishi can make a happy ending too.So my expectations are low...

 

Honestly, I don't want to see him die. He's gone through so much and is still suffering from a lot of trauma, from which he hasn't fully recovered and which has caused him to go down a dark and chaotic path. I really hope that he gets a chance to redeem himself. It can make for a good redemptive story, I think, if Kishi executes it well.

[luffyq1]

 

I don't think so, either, but I still think it's important to consider the possibility, nonetheless. Kishi can still pull anything and everything.  

Kishi has long crossed the line of absurdity so the possibility is there, but I believe it's very low. 

[ns.Believe.It]

Kishi has long crossed the line of absurdity so the possibility is there, but I believe it's very low. 

Perhaps, however killing Sasuke off would not be one of those absurd things.

It would actually be the most sensible thing to do.

Edited by ns.Believe.It, 17 September 2014 - 03:13 PM.

[FireFox]

 

Honestly, I don't want to see him die. He's gone through so much and is still suffering from a lot of trauma, from which he hasn't fully recovered and which has caused him to go down a dark and chaotic path. I really hope that he gets a chance to redeem himself. It can make for a good redemptive story, I think, if Kishi executes it well.

The boat for Sasuke redeeming himself  has sailed long time ago  , there is no way for Kishi to make his redemption  look believable  anymore  he went to far with Sasuke for that   it will be done like Obito again but much worse since Sasuke never wanted redemption in the first place and he doesn't care about that he made his point clear about that he doesn't like to work for it and shows zero emotions for gaining his "redemption"  , Sasuke's redemption will be forced trough Naruto and bc of Naruto not that Sasuke has worked for it and that sucks  the only fitting redemption that Kishi can gave him is by death like Obito but even that isn't good . The redemption of villains in this manga are done horrible and very much forced bc there is no real development for that  the execution  is just not done right  and with Sasuke even more so .

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 17 September 2014 - 03:14 PM.

[elmas]

The boat for Sasuke redeeming himself  has sailed long time ago  , there is no way for Kishi to make his redemption  look believable  anymore  he went to far with Sasuke for that   it will be done like Obito again but much worse since Sasuke never wanted redemption in the first place and he doesn't care about that he made his point clear about that he doesn't like to work for it and shows zero emotions for gaining his "redemption"  , Sasuke's redemption will be forced trough Naruto and bc of Naruto not that Sasuke has worked for it and that sucks  the only fitting redemption that Kishi can gave him is by death like Obito but even that isn't good . The redemption of villains in this manga are done horrible and very much forced bc there is no real development for that  the execution  is just not done right  and with Sasuke even more so .

Exactly.He never wants to be redeemed.But...

[luffyq1]

Team 7 is going to have a forceful happy ending, so just accept it early so when you finally take it in it will be less painful to read. Plenty of people in the series have made good cases as to why Sasuke should just die and tbh certain characters would be better off without him in the series. But like I said before, there will be a happy ending. Naruto will cease the cycle of hatred, save his friend without killing him, get the girl and become Hokage. This has been in the making for years. Tnj will solve everything.

 

the end

Edited by luffyq1, 17 September 2014 - 03:31 PM.

[elmas]

Team 7 is going to have a forceful happy ending, so just accept it early so when you finally take it in it will be less painful to read. Plenty of people in the series have made good cases as to why Sasuke should just die and tbh certain characters would be better off without him in the series. But like I said before, there will be a happy ending. Naruto will cease the cycle of hatred, save his friend without killing him, get the girl and become Hokage. This has been in the making for years. Tnj will solve everything.

 

the end

You explained it well luffyq1.

[FireFox]

Exactly.He never wants to be redeemed.But...

But..... What ???? He will get redeemed ? Well that much is clear Sasuke will get it on a silver plate like he gets everything in this manga  there is so much fail in here that I can't even begin to explain it . The only saving grace now it would be like Kakashi said no more kitten 7 in the end  please I can't stand to see this team with him anymore its freaking disgusting   T7 with Sai is much better and no character has to suffer bc of that like Naruto and Sakura does with Sasuke's  just bring Sai back for the love of god or don't form T7 again that's all I want .

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 17 September 2014 - 03:40 PM.