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[ns.Believe.It]

 

In your opinion. There are multitudes of people who do not agree with either point of your assessment.  If for some people the setup of the romances was obvious since the first book, and they recognized the author's clues as the story progressed, obviously for those readers it was neither sudden, nor poorly explained, nor "lame."

 

And the exact same thing is going to happen in this fandom.  Assuming that NS is indeed confirmed by the conclusion of the manga (or upcoming movie), once it's all over there will be people who will continue to deny that NS was ever foreshadowed.  There will be people who say that Sakura's feelings changing to Naruto was sudden, poorly explained, lame, etc.  That NH and SS would have been better.  That they were misled by the author's terrible writing, yadda, yadda, yadda.  

 

It's just part of the deal with the interpretation of art or literature.  What's interesting to me is that readers frequently believe their interpretation carries more weight than authorial intent (especially when that intent is clearly vocalized), and if there is a mismatch it is the author's fault for writing poorly instead of the reader's fault for misinterpreting.

 

Sometimes it is the writer's fault, but it is a more difficult case to win when many readers can and do interpret the author's intentions just fine.

 

Kishimoto has made a number of glaring mistakes with his story, but I don't think the implementation of his intentions regarding the final pairing is going to be one of them.

Yes, obviously its my opinion 

Rest of your post- Agreed. 

 

EDIT: I have to ask, since you seem to be a Harry Potter series fan like me, Were you happy with the way Rowling made Ron-Hermione official? So Ron says something caring about house-elves and that's enough for Hermione to forget the situation of war and kiss Ron. Really?! 

Edited by ns.Believe.It, 15 September 2014 - 05:38 PM.

[Gojira]

This made me feel a little sad that one of the head people in Funimation said this

 

She also said she hopes this will be in the ending 

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[DarkRadeon]

The thing I am scared off is since NH and SS fanbase is so larger theres still the chance Kishi could go that route and it would suck big time :(

[TouKen4Life3g]

The thing I am scared off is since NH and SS fanbase is so larger theres still the chance Kishi could go that route and it would suck big time :(

Well, Kishi believes under one thing that it's worldwide popular and people use the quote till this day:

kitten'em

Lol...it corrected it to "duck"...

[elmas]

The thing I am scared off is since NH and SS fanbase is so larger theres still the chance Kishi could go that route and it would suck big time :(

But NH is unpopular in Japan.SS-NS are very popular in Japan.But SS has a negative feel but NS has developments and such.I don't think he will go that route but yeah who knows...

[KnS]

Is it possible that when Naruto said "Anyway not everything is going as Mom had told" that he has found girl but she is not like Kushina but he loves her?Most of the NH arguments are using this.

 

May I ask why you read NH arguments?  Is it to be fair?  To make sure you're not missing something?  I'm just curious.

I agree with you whole heartedly, but I just don't know if we are the fans that are misinterpreting the series. I don't believe we are, as there has been many implications that has been leading to NS, yet because NH and SS are so much larger than us, it makes me question (at times) that they may have a point.

 

Well, we will find out if we're the ones misintepreting.  For me, the thing is that I truly want to ship whatever pairing the author has in mind.  To me that only makes sense, because not only do you avoid disappointment but you have a better sense that you're following the story the way the author intends.

 

I didn't choose to ship NS just because I liked it better than other options.  I chose to ship it because I honestly felt it was what Kishimoto was trying to show me.  And I don't have to trouble myself to dig deep for clues and stretch tiny possibilities out of proportion to substantiate what I believe.  It's right there for the taking.

 

I will say right now that if after everything I've said here, and how adamant I've been about NS being the final pairing, and I turn out to be wrong?  I will not hesitate to be here on this board admitting it.

EDIT: I have to ask, since you seem to be a Harry Potter series fan like me, Were you happy with the way Rowling made Ron-Hermione official? So Ron says something caring about house-elves and that's enough for Hermione to forget the situation of war and kiss Ron. Really?! 

 

Of course the armchair quarterback in me thinks it probably could have been better.  But we have to take into consideration the circumstances.  It wasn't exactly a moment for roses and long kisses.  Ron showed his true self -- an improved self -- and Hermione responded.  

 

Neither of them knew if there would be another chance.  It was rushed, and considering the long build-up it wasn't as satisfying as it might have been if Rowling had chosen a different moment for them, but considering how it was written I felt it was pretty realistic.

[Kyaerai]

And Hinata is very unpopular in Japan. 

I thought she was the most popular female character in the series...

[TouKen4Life3g]

I thought she was the most popular female character in the series...

Who to say SP has 1000 staff or not? Ah...

[Swagkura]

This made me feel a little sad that one of the head people in Funimation said this

 
She also said she hopes this will be in the ending 
http://images4.fanpo...858-588-480.jpg

I wouldn't worry about. Just because she wants it to happen, doesn't means she's gonna have any effect on the outcome of the main pairing.

The thing I am scared off is since NH and SS fanbase is so larger theres still the chance Kishi could go that route and it would suck big time :(

I don't think Kishi really cares about that. It's his story, the fandom shouldn't decide what happens in it.

Edited by Swagkura, 15 September 2014 - 06:19 PM.

[elmas]

I thought she was the most popular female character in the series...

In western yep but in Japan she's quite unpopular.

[TouKen4Life3g]

This made me feel a little sad that one of the head people in Funimation said this

 
She also said she hopes this will be in the ending 
http://images4.fanpo...858-588-480.jpg

How is New Yorker knows more? We're not that smart! Hell, it's not physic smart! Maybe it's the salt...

Head: Can we just skip the latest episode?
Head 2: Don't you like Iron Man?

[六道仙人]

what the kitten is funimation? And who the hell is  this maria leon?

[Kyaerai]

what the kitten is funimation?

You should be watching.

[六道仙人]

uh? sorry but i don't get... I am not american LOL

[Gojira]

what the kitten is funimation? And who the hell is  this maria leon?

The people who dubbed Yu Yu Hakusho, Dragonball Z, Fullmetal Alchemist, Attack on Titan, One Piece pretty much any anime that's a huge hit for the western fans (except Pokemon, that was 4kids and Naruto and Bleach were done by Viz)

Edited by Pepsi, 15 September 2014 - 06:37 PM.

[Paul Blowfish]

Firstly having read the entire series let me tell you there was no romantic relationship between Harry and Hermione at all.He had dated Cho Chang and Ginny and he was actually given advice by Hermione on how to behave with girls.There is absolutely no comparison between that and NS.Was Harry clamouring for dates with Hermione?Had he blushed before Hermione?No
 
The pairings in Harry Potter were no where near obvious except nearing the last 2 books in which Harry started to look at Ginny and they kissed each other with Ginny saying "I know you cant date me because you are saving the world" .Ron was also suddenly overprotective of Hermione in the last book when they were searching Horcruxes.
 
But in the series's case romance pairings were begun to be developed only in the last 2 books and there was development between GinnyHarry and RonHermione
 
In Naruto,we have hardly any Hinata development,just the confession and the handhold and SS development is all in the red.
 
The only fear I have is that some are saying that since Naruto feels Sakura likes Sasuke he will push for SS to happen

Thanks for that! I've sadly never got around to reading the books. :( I just read Yahoo! News, and was gullible to believe it. I hope Naruto sees that Sakura ain't into Sasuke anymore.

You should be watching.

OMG yes.

Edited by Paul Blowfish, 15 September 2014 - 06:39 PM.

[六道仙人]

The people who dubbed Yu Yu Hakusho, Dragonball Z, Fullmetal Alchemist, Attack on Titan, One Piece pretty much any anime that's a huge hit for the western fans (except Pokemon, that was 4kids and Naruto and Bleach were done by Viz)

 

so...what's the problem if a head of another company don't like a couple of an anime licensed by a rival company?

[Kaeta]

The people who dubbed Yu Yu Hakusho, Dragonball Z, Fullmetal Alchemist, Attack on Titan, One Piece pretty much any anime that's a huge hit for the western fans (except Pokemon, that was 4kids and Naruto and Bleach were done by Viz)

 

And that makes them important because..? I don't get it. They dub, right? So, whatever, it's not like they have any influence. They only translate and give their voices, right?

 

..and tbh who cares about an american dub company, if that is what it is.

[Gojira]

 

so...what's the problem if a head of another company don't like a couple of an anime licensed by a rival company?

No problem just kind of sad because I grew up with alot of their works.

 

Its like if someone grew up as a Jim Carrey fan and found out he tortures puppies or something

[TouKen4Life3g]

You should be watching.