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#32701 elmas

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 08:36 PM

Actually "you've never really seen him" is a mistranslation, what he actually said was more like "he displayed power he's never shown before."

Anyway I disagree on some points. If she was the way you described her then she wouldn't be special to Naruto, but she is. She, along with Iruka and the rest of Team 7, was one of the first people to acknowledge him, and saved him from the hell of loneliness. She supported and recognised his strength long before the rest of the Konoha 11 did. Remember Naruto's fight against Kiba during the chuunin exam? She was literally the only person (besides Kakashi) who didn't doubt him, who believed in him. And she was able to recognise his strength right from the start, as when he was fighting Kakashi during the first bell test she remarked that he was "pretty good," and was amazed by him when he fought Zabuza and later on when he showed up on the bridge she excitedly screamed his name.

The reason she didn't recognise the depth of his feelings for her is because he kept them hidden because he didn't feel worthy, because he hadn't kept his promise ("How can I [confess my feelings]? I can't even keep my promises...") On the contrary, I think she knew him well enough that she knew how Naruto would react to the news that the K11 was planning on offing Sasuke (it was one of the things that contributed to his hyperventilating and fainting), and how he would react to her trying to get him to give up on Sasuke, which is why she never planned on telling him the truth in the first place.

I think Sakura and Kakashi and Iruka are Naruto's biggest supporters, clearly. Her support is strongly shown in scenes like when she was going to give up the chuunin exams just so Naruto's dream wouldn't be crushed, and during the CPR scene when she said she absolutely wouldn't let him die and thought of his dream and how it's "right in front of them."
But I disagree that Sasuke is one of his biggest supporters. At this point, he doesn't support him at all (he plans on killing him and stealing his dream), and even in part one, when Naruto was getting stronger and stronger, instead of being pleased or proud or something, he got jealous and vindictive. He acknowledged him early on, sure, but acknowledging is not the same as supporting. And, I think Sakura is one of the people who understands him the most -- some examples showing this are when she conveyed his feelings to the alliance, and when she knew that the reason. But of course she can't understand him in quite the same way as, say, Iruka and Sasuke do, because they had similar experiences as Naruto, so that's not her fault.
No no no, he never said that. The closest is when he said that he felt like portraying Sakura as an "honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression" during the confession.

Really?Sorry I found it in google. :sweat: I don't remember what he said but I'm sure he said confession was true.


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Posted 14 September 2014 - 08:37 PM

I despise those people that say Neji died for NH and that his character is ruined if NH doesn't happen. Sorry to break it to you, but Neji snuffed it for Naruto, because he is the person with the power to save the world, not because his cousin is obsessed for someone that she doesn't really know that well.


SPEAK. Like seriously, can you imagine this running through his head? "I must protect Naruto so that Hinata will not be heartbroken/will have a chance to be with him!"
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Posted 14 September 2014 - 08:48 PM

SPEAK. Like seriously, can you imagine this running through his head? "I must protect Naruto so that Hinata will not be heartbroken/will have a chance to be with him!"


What NS fans don't understand is that when Neji said "Your life is not your own" he wasn't referring to the fact that the entire SA was depending in him for survival, no what he actually meant was "your life is not your own, it belongs to Hinata-hime". Silly me, I've misunderstood this whole manga :chuckle:

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 08:53 PM

What NS fans don't understand is that when Neji said "Your life is not your own" he wasn't referring to the fact that the entire SA was depending in him for survival, no what he actually meant was "your life is not your own, it belongs to Hinata-hime". Silly me, I've misunderstood this whole manga :chuckle:



REALLY? I have been blind all this time. It's so clear now. HINATA BELONGS WITH NARUTO END OF DISCUSSION.

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 08:55 PM

I don't understand how NH fans don't see all of NS's moments.

Dude, I don't know whether this was intended at me or not but let it be known to you that I am an NS shipper :). The reason why I did not put all the moments was that the post would become too long. There's a reason as to why we have another separate thread for all the NS moments. I just focused on some handful ones. That's all! My apologies if this post was not pointed at me....

@Alessa Kishi said that, "I felt like portraying an honest yet surprisingly stubborn girl" when he was questioned about Sakura's confession :D

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 08:57 PM

@narusaku256 You're fine! :D

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 09:04 PM

REALLY? I have been blind all this time. It's so clear now. HINATA BELONGS WITH NARUTO END OF DISCUSSION.

Don't worry.You see the light finally. :wink:


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Posted 14 September 2014 - 09:05 PM

@narusaku256 You're fine! :D

You edited the post XD

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 09:08 PM

As much as it cringes my bones when people use CPR as an NS moment (because it is as platonic and professional as things get in my vocabulary, and I know I am not supported here), you're true, of course. I just think that it would be somwhat boring if NS was predetermined, obvious, solid and canon already. Like all of the Fairy Tail pairings. We would all just share fanart here, not much to discuss. And I do believe that Hinata could be developed by the author as a second choice in case SS happens, although chances are very slim. 

Okay. I'll be a bit more precise. When I refer to the CPR, I am referring to Sakura's thoughts that she had in her mind while administering the CPR to Naruto. Rest all....you know it :D. It would be boring but it sure does gets annoying when things are being dragged out as hell! Balance is the key :P

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 09:08 PM

Don't worry.You see the light finally. :wink:



It's pretty clear NH is the best, you will see the light finally. ( that was total sarcasm and it was not meant to offend you in any way )

You edited the post XD



Thought maybe I didn't need the whole quote thing, hope it ain't a problem.

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 09:09 PM

It's pretty clear NH is the best, you will see the light finally. ( that was total sarcasm and it was not meant to offend you in any way )



Thought maybe I didn't need the whole quote thing, hope it ain't a problem.

No worries :)

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 10:12 PM

Strange coincidence, lol

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 10:13 PM

Yeah, I did find that interview and it is kinda discouraging.

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It says that she still loves Sasuke (not that I thought otherwise) and that Naruto is just close. (I know that the translation might be rough) And that Sakura didn't show much spirit.

But the worst part is that japanese fandom seems to have forced the Hinata\Sakura comparison upon Kishimoto and that is just disturbing. It is hard to guess the true meaning, but it almost feels like they told him that Hinata is more of a heroine. I actually had an impression before that Hinata is much less popular in Japan. Well, it is hard to deduce anything from such a short text.

Still it is hard to see Hinata mentioned in a text, where a pivotal romantic scene is discussed, where she wasn't present and Sakura is depicted as somewhat un-heroine-like.

 

And what do you think he meant when he said that he depicted Sakura as an honest but stubborn girl in that scene?
Does he mean that she was actually sharing some truthful feelings, but she is still stubborn in her dedication to Sasuke?

Or does he mean that she just believed in what she was telling Naruto (denying herself feelings) and was dedicated to bear consequences?


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Posted 14 September 2014 - 10:15 PM

Strange coincidence, lol
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Coincidence in hair color XD

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 10:20 PM

Strange coincidence, lol

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Sakura likes Natsu?


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Posted 14 September 2014 - 10:23 PM

Sakura likes Natsu?

This is sarcasm, right?
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Posted 14 September 2014 - 10:24 PM

Sakura likes Natsu?


Maybe XD

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 10:25 PM

This is sarcasm, right?

You decide.


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Posted 14 September 2014 - 10:25 PM

I swear those SS fans... :bash:



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Posted 14 September 2014 - 10:28 PM

Okay. I'll be a bit more precise. When I refer to the CPR, I am referring to Sakura's thoughts that she had in her mind while administering the CPR to Naruto. Rest all....you know it :D. It would be boring but it sure does gets annoying when things are being dragged out as hell! Balance is the key :P


I have feeling that CPR will be the only KISS (for Naruto having with girl ) in NARUTO manga as NARUTO is shonon Manga


But I don't know if kishi will add another kiss in The Last movie XD

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