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#3221 Akashi

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:44 AM

She'd be delighted to know her son has got an amazing kanjou :fu:

Whoa, thats great, sounds like your practicing kanji eh? Man...I really need to practice on japanese..

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Aww, lol. Well looking forward to your translations :)

(Wheres ramen and megi goddamit :arg:)

Well yeah I'm learning Japanese.. Kanji is probably the hardest part not only because of writing, but also because of on-yomi and kun-yomi (2 kinds of readings) which are frustrating.  :argh:



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:52 AM

Well yeah I'm learning Japanese.. Kanji is probably the hardest part not only because of writing, but also because of on-yomi and kun-yomi (2 kinds of readings) which are frustrating.  :argh:


Whoa...:wibble: I..I only know how to read the names of the naruto characters in japanese only because I've memorized how they look from how much I see them...well the main characters and akatsuki that is...:sweat:

But you guys are just awesome :wibble:

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 12:05 PM

that valentine's day double page from WSJ previews is too small to reading kanji, too blur there... I can recognized that sakura is doing a "choco technique" to naruto or something like that....


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 12:12 PM

I think that sentiment is true for a lot of people. But I like checking in and reading what others have to say.

 

Anyway what do u think the ETA is for NS Canon, real world and in Naruto Universe.

I think it will be at the end, so potentially years for us :/


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:03 PM

Kanji is very easy to read if there's Furigana on the top of it (one of the example is Naruto raw manga) as long as I can read Hiragana and Katakana.



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:15 PM

Well yeah I'm learning Japanese.. Kanji is probably the hardest part not only because of writing, but also because of on-yomi and kun-yomi (2 kinds of readings) which are frustrating.  :argh:

 

in simple and possible too basic terms to be true, Kanji can be read with the Japanese meaning of the character and with the Chinese meaning of the character (since they are in origin chinese) and both can mean different things depending on the context

 

I got really good at hiragana and katakana a few years ago but kanji elludes me perhaps it is my age or that I just didn't study hard enough




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Posted 29 June 2013 - 02:01 PM

I think it will be at the end, so potentially years for us :/

Agreed, Kishimoto is a smart man. If he make Naruto and Sakura canon to early , he will loose a big part of the fandom who is reading the manga only to see Hinata and Naruto as a couple...


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 02:04 PM

Agreed, Kishimoto is a smart man. If he make Naruto and Sakura canon to early , he will loose a big part of the fandom who is reading the manga only to see Hinata and Naruto as a couple...

Yeah, he does seem to have this idea in his head.



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 02:05 PM

I think it will be at the end, so potentially years for us :/

Man idk if I can keep this up



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 02:12 PM

Agreed, Kishimoto is a smart man. If he make Naruto and Sakura canon to early , he will loose a big part of the fandom who is reading the manga only to see Hinata and Naruto as a couple...

I do think that too, though that won't stop him ending SS early. Many people who experienced this can see ending SS will only mean NS, but others won't get that idea until it actually happens. It's not that they don't know any better, it's just how it's written. For example, some could argue NH may happen, but to me, judging how it's written, it pretty much ended NH. When that time comes, people would go back and say, "Hm, so it did end here."

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 02:59 PM

Agreed, Kishimoto is a smart man. If he make Naruto and Sakura canon to early , he will loose a big part of the fandom who is reading the manga only to see Hinata and Naruto as a couple...

I've seen a lot of people say this, but I don't think the problem is that he would lose a big part of the fandom if he decided to make one pairing canon. The problem is more like it would be much harder to write a story when a pairing is already canon. Keeping them single keeps the characters young and the drama interesting.

I do think that too, though that won't stop him ending SS early. Many people who experienced this can see ending SS will only mean NS, but others won't get that idea until it actually happens. It's not that they don't know any better, it's just how it's written. For example, some could argue NH may happen, but to me, judging how it's written, it pretty much ended NH. When that time comes, people would go back and say, "Hm, so it did end here."


I wonder if Naruto will actually address Hinata's feelings? I'm not even sure if he remembered her confession, although he did remember her being hurt.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:08 PM

Agreed, Kishimoto is a smart man. If he make Naruto and Sakura canon to early , he will loose a big part of the fandom who is reading the manga only to see Hinata and Naruto as a couple...

 

in my opinion he really couldn't care less about anyone who misinterprets his manga




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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:16 PM

Agreed, Kishimoto is a smart man. If he make Naruto and Sakura canon to early , he will loose a big part of the fandom who is reading the manga only to see Hinata and Naruto as a couple...

Well, talking business wise, most of the profits are coming from Japan, and if there's one thing we know it's that Japan likes NS. With that said, Kishi shouldn't have any trouble writing the story the way he wants to, regardless of what foreign anti-Sakura countries think. And yes that means all of us, since from what I've heard pretty much the entire world (except Japan) hates Sakura. Worst case scenario : Online complaints that only serve give free publicity.

 

And anyways, given that Kishi is also the mangaka of one of the big 3, I don't think he has to worry about money for a long long time.


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:21 PM

I think if kishi makes NS canon now he wont lose a major amount of his fanbase, remember, the japanese fanbase is his main fanbase, and narusaku (and not to mention sakuras fanbase) is popular in japan ans it looks like its gonna beat sasusaku judging by the events. Naruhina doesnt even exist (same goes to hinata), dont believe me? Go to japanese forums or whatever and look for a naruhina fanbase, or even on twitter for thre matter, goodluck with that mates :zaru:

The one third of the western fanbase might rage, but hey, no one stopped them from accepting the facts that are as clear as DAY.

And man, in the NS fc over at NF there's such a cute little NS family doujin! :excited: gave me major feels, but am I the only one that wants narutos and sakuras baby to be a pink haired boy :umm:

Plus kishi basically confirmed its gonna be a boy named shinachiku :fu:

Edit: Branden and verilance hit the nail with their posts.

Im betting shinachiku is gonna have pink hair!!! :wibble: and here's hoping he's gonna have the same hair style as natsu from FT with his forehead showing!!

What are your bets?

Edited by Canadian_DJ, 29 June 2013 - 03:26 PM.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:26 PM

I think if kishi makes NS canon now he wont lose a major amount of his fanbase, remember, the japanese fanbase is his main fanbase, and narusaku is popular in japan ans it looks like its gonna beat sasusaku judging by the events. Naruhina doesnt even exist, dont believe me? Go to japanese forums or whatever and look for a naruhina fanbase, or even on twitter for thre matter, goodluck with that mates :zaru:

The one third of the western fanbase might rage, but hey, no one stopped them from accepting the facts that are as clear as DAY.

And man, in the NS fc over at NF there's such a cute little NS family doujin! :excited: gave me major feels, but am I the only one that wants narutos and sakuras baby to be a pink haired boy :umm:

Plus kishi basically confirmed its gonna be a boy named shinachiku :fu:

Edit: Branden and verilance hit the nail with their posts.

Im betting shinachiku is gonna have pink hair!!! :wibble: and here's hoping he's gonna have the same hair style as natsu from FT with his forehead showing!!

What are your bets?

where on earth are you getting this "shinachiku" name from?


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:28 PM

where on earth are you getting this "shinachiku" name from?


From his road to ninja interview, they asked kishi what narutos sons name is gonna be, and kishi said he had menma in mind, but since it was used in the movie he said shinachiku. Theres a thread about his interview, but I forgot what its called.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:47 PM

From his road to ninja interview, they asked kishi what narutos sons name is gonna be, and kishi said he had menma in mind, but since it was used in the movie he said shinachiku. Theres a thread about his interview, but I forgot what its called.

From wikipedia:

Menma (メンマ or 麺麻 or 麺碼?) is a Japanese condiment made from lactate-fermented bamboo shoots. The bamboo shoots are dried in the sun or through other means before the fermentation process. Menma is a common topping for noodle soups, notably ramen. Menma is primarily produced in China, with brands imported from southern China and Taiwan being popular. Menma is also known as shinachiku (支那竹?), "Chinese bamboo".
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So basically Naruto's future kid's name is the other way of saying Menma..  :smile: 
Funny name tbh.  :lol:



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:50 PM

I've seen a lot of people say this, but I don't think the problem is that he would lose a big part of the fandom if he decided to make one pairing canon. The problem is more like it would be much harder to write a story when a pairing is already canon. Keeping them single keeps the characters young and the drama interesting.


I wonder if Naruto will actually address Hinata's feelings? I'm not even sure if he remembered her confession, although he did remember her being hurt.

I do think he does but I think Kishi doesn't make it relevant to plot or even to Naruto. I think it was made to be a bonus for fans as well as probably make a use for Sakura to feel "uneasy" with her feelings for Naruto. It should have been a big deal, but really, it's very minor.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 04:11 PM

Well, talking business wise, most of the profits are coming from Japan, and if there's one thing we know it's that Japan likes NS. With that said, Kishi shouldn't have any trouble writing the story the way he wants to, regardless of what foreign anti-Sakura countries think. And yes that means all of us, since from what I've heard pretty much the entire world (except Japan) hates Sakura. Worst case scenario : Online complaints that only serve give free publicity.
 
And anyways, given that Kishi is also the mangaka of one of the big 3, I don't think he has to worry about money for a long long time.

The problem with the "popularity" argument is that the yaoi pairings are actually more popular in Japan, and Sakura and Hinata have always ranked similarly in the polls (and self-reported polls coming from only people who voted aren't very accurate in the first place). In other words, it is actually very difficult to discern to true popularity of a character or pairing, so it's best to leave them out of pairing debates altogether.

I think if kishi makes NS canon now he wont lose a major amount of his fanbase, remember, the japanese fanbase is his main fanbase, and narusaku (and not to mention sakuras fanbase) is popular in japan ans it looks like its gonna beat sasusaku judging by the events. Naruhina doesnt even exist (same goes to hinata), dont believe me? Go to japanese forums or whatever and look for a naruhina fanbase, or even on twitter for thre matter, goodluck with that mates :zaru:

No, before the narusaku event was announced, there had already been several sasusaku events. These events are purely fan-organized, anybody with enough money to rent a floor at a showroom can have one, and shouldn't be used to judge a pairing's popularity.

For me at least, I'm just content knowing that Naruto and Sakura have such a beautiful relationship that we don't need polls to back up our pairing.

I do think he does but I think Kishi doesn't make it relevant to plot or even to Naruto. I think it was made to be a bonus for fans as well as probably make a use for Sakura to feel "uneasy" with her feelings for Naruto. It should have been a big deal, but really, it's very minor.


I've seen several people point out that it seemed out of character for Naruto to just ignore a friend like that. Sakura's uneasiness towards Hinata's confession could be another barrier to her accepting Naruto's feelings, it would be interesting if Kishimoto did bring it up.

Edited by Nefertieh, 29 June 2013 - 04:31 PM.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 06:08 PM

With the fan service he gives to Hinata in Shippuden when she appears, like the last chapters she appeared in, I do think that he cares about the fan base's pairing that got NH's back and the fans of Hinata. He tends to show Hinata in a bigger spotlight than the other side characters, always. He can do it to any other side character but because of popularity, from what it seems, he shows her the most out of the side characters.

 

He had killed NH for good for them in 631, though there's still some who didn't want to believe and still continue with this pairing till they see the real pairing happening. But, as for Hinata's character appearance, I think he'll show her whenever he can when the K11 are together in any situation.

 

I don't know about his selling for the books and other marketing things, but he seems that he wants to keep all the fans of his manga to keep following.


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