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[luffyq1]

I don't really see why Obito has to be singled out as a bad villain because every other villain in this series would have done the exact same thing if it furthered their goals.

 imo obito's reasons for becoming a villian were so weak and the fact that kishi came up with "uchiha loving too much" is a bad excuse. he had so much buildup and then when his back story was revealed it turned out to be lackluster imo. 

[Suigetsu]

 

Sometimes, people do crazy stuff when they suffer a broken heart, plus Madara helped manipulate Obito, just like Emperor Palpatine did to Anakin in Star Wars Episode III. Of course, Obito didn't earn himself some redemption for his sins, but he did at least die trying to make up for his mistakes.

Too much starwars, still Vader went that path because there was no return. As for obito's case... well. He did had people left, he was just being the biggest kitten butthurt ever.
And then, the coolest guy line... GTFO

 

He killed Konan, he brought the mist village into a complete nightmare and attempted to kill the main chara at his birth, killing his two parents on the process of it.

Also what was the point of him sending the kyubbi to attack the leaf? That was another plothole.
If the Kyubbi had gone wild from it's grasp then it would had been a different story.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Too much starwars, still Vader went that path because there was no return. As for obito's case... well. He did had people left, he was just being the biggest b*tch butthurt ever.
And then, the coolest guy line... GTFO

 

He killed Konan, he brought the mist village into a complete nightmare and attempted to kill the main chara at his birth, killing his two parents on the process of it.

Also what was the point of him sending the kyubbi to attack the leaf? That was another plothole.
If the Kyubbi had gone wild from it's grasp then it would had been a different story.

 

It's obvious why Obito pulled Kurama from Kushina... he wanted to follow Madara's ideals to get him his revenge on the Uchiha, since Leaf history showed Madara had controlled Kurama in the past and their knowing the Uchiha had the POWER to control Biju just as the Senju did. 

[luffyq1]

Too much starwars, still Vader went that path because there was no return. As for obito's case... well. He did had people left, he was just being the biggest b*tch butthurt ever.
And then, the coolest guy line... GTFO

 

He killed Konan, he brought the mist village into a complete nightmare and attempted to kill the main chara at his birth, killing his two parents on the process of it.

Also what was the point of him sending the kyubbi to attack the leaf? That was another plothole.
If the Kyubbi had gone wild from it's grasp then it would had been a different story.

i really don't see how anyone can look past obito attempting to murder baby naruto. he's the very reason why naruto was an orphan.

 

edit: and ffs it was seconds after kushina had given birth to naruto. let that sink in!

Edited by luffyq1, 15 December 2014 - 06:40 PM.

[Akashi]

yet he thinks of him as the coolest guy!

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

What is this rumor I heard of the Bolt movie being RTN like him going to another universe to meet his father that is married to his aunt Sakura and he's the Rokudaime Hokage instead of the 7th?

[LuckyChi7]

 

No problemo, Chi, and make it Bryon. :) All in all, CS2 did a nice job with the Storm games, especially elaborating on stuff. Kinda like how Rise of a Ninja and The Broken Bond on XBOX 360 by Ubisoft have some nice touches added to details in the story.

 

I shall keep that in mind, and  I know right. I remember playing storm 2 and getting to the end thinking damn just damn that's pretty insane. Storm 3 was about the same thing for me. I mean the only games that didn't really matter were Generations and Revolution. To me those games are kinda like DLC games if that makes any sense. Even though I'm super hesitant about Storm 4, I am a bit curious as to how they are going to approach it considering how they ended off Storm 3. 

 

Btw Bryon do you remember if Storm 3 had gotten to Sasuke and Itachi VS Kabuto or is that gonna happen in Storm 4? 

 

 

Is everything from this game better?! I might as well buy my brother this game and let him play it for me so that I can watch all those scenes.

Everything makes so much more sense in here T_T and it is wrapped up better, too.

 

Almost everything is better in here compared to how the manga portrays it. If you do end up getting the game for your brother there is like one final story mission  that happens after the ending of story mode, can't really remember how you get it. I'll find out once I replay the game again, but this is what happens. 

 

 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 15 December 2014 - 06:44 PM.

[luffyq1]

What is this rumor I heard of the Bolt movie being RTN like him going to another universe to meet his father that is married to his aunt Sakura and he's the Rokudaime Hokage instead of the 7th?

where did you hear that from!?!?!?

[Lady Lys]

I kittening hate hinata.

Yeah yeah, it's kishi's & SP's fault because of the ending yadda yadda...blah blah

But man, they just made me hate her so much.

...especially the hinata fanboys. /pukes blood/

 

 

 

What a coincidence! I kittening hate Hinata too!! 

 

 

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[RedFaction]

What is this rumor I heard of the Bolt movie being RTN like him going to another universe to meet his father that is married to his aunt Sakura and he's the Rokudaime Hokage instead of the 7th?

I thought that was just an idea someone had for the movie, not actually what the movie is about.

[AHK]

obito's reasons for becoming a villain were pretty weak imo. there's really no justification for stripping an infant of a family and attempting to kill that infant. zetsu was right, obito is scum.

 

a broken heart isn't a good reason to try to murder a baby. that's so low and despicable. 

 

 imo obito's reasons for becoming a villian were so weak and the fact that kishi came up with "uchiha loving too much" is a bad excuse. he had so much buildup and then when his back story was revealed it turned out to be lackluster imo. 

"It doesn’t matter what you use to justify war. Religion, philosophy, resources, land, revenge, love, even a whim. No matter how trivial the motive, they are all worthy causes of war. There will always be war. The reason can be found later. Human instinct seeks conflict.”

 

One of my favorite quotes from Pain. No matter how you look at it, Obito's motives were just as valid as Madara's and Nagato's. If you strip their reasons down to the barest form, all tried to justify war because they hated the way the system worked. Madara hated the system that took his brothers from him. Nagato hated the system that took his parents and his best friend. Obito hated the system that took away the person he viewed as "his only light". 

 

If you go even further, Hashirama, Jiraiya, and Minato also wanted to change the world for the very same reasons as Obito, they all hated the way the world worked. So, in reality, all of their justifications were equivalent and the same at the core, the only real difference being in the way that they chose to approach changing the world. 

Edited by AHK, 15 December 2014 - 06:51 PM.

[六道仙人]

 

Wait, seriously? Where did you get this information? The Last was presumably under production since RtN was released in the summer of 2012. 

naah pretty much started in december 2013/January 2014 because i remember there were some news about the movie in one issue of WSJ around that time and it was like "A new movie is arriving. Just looking forward for some news in the next issues of WSJ!" and the next info about it was out in summer.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

 

"It doesn’t matter what you use to justify war. Religion, philosophy, resources, land, revenge, love, even a whim. No matter how trivial the motive, they are all worthy causes of war. There will always be war. The reason can be found later. Human instinct seeks conflict.”

 

One of my favorite quotes from Pain. No matter how you look at it, Obito's motives were just as valid as Madara's and Nagato's. If strip their reasons down to the barest form, all tried to justify war because they hated the way the system worked. Madara hated the way the system that took his brothers from him. Nagato hated the system that took his parents and his best friend. Obito hated the system that took away the person he viewed as "his only light". 

 

If you go even further, Hashirama, Jiraiya, and Minato also wanted to change the world for the very same reasons as Obito, they all hated the way the world worked. So, in reality, all of their justifications were equivalent and the same at the core, the only real difference being in the way that they chose to approach changing the world. 

 

Naruto was the same way too, especially after he witnesses the ways of the current ninja world, as well as with Minato's stark reminder that if it didn't change, it would make a new Pain, which is what I think that Naruto is unintentionally doing in the canon ending with his treatment of his OWN SON. Sure, Bolt may not have the Rinnegan or anything, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN HE COULDN'T END UP BEING THE NEXT PAIN, OR EVEN GOING AS FAR AS TO TRY TO DESTROY THE WORLD AS IT IS SINCE IT'S MADE HIS DAD IGNORE HIS FAMILY.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I used to not hate Hinata until 615. Her cousin died and all she cared about was holding Naruto's hand.

[RedFaction]

I used to not hate Hinata until 615. Her cousin died and all she cared about was holding Naruto's hand.

And yet when she finally gets to be with him and they have a son she looks emotionless as hell in that poster of her and Naruto with baby Bolt.

[ThroughWithLove]

What is this rumor I heard of the Bolt movie being RTN like him going to another universe to meet his father that is married to his aunt Sakura and he's the Rokudaime Hokage instead of the 7th?

 

Just a rumor. An unlikely one at that.

[六道仙人]

hinata should have been in some shoujo manga. or at least having the same destiny as tojo's in ichigo100%. But instead the author choiced to repay a secondary character in a shounen where the hero is in love the main female character.

 

it's a JOKE.

[Akashi]

The rumor about Karin being a villain long with Oro and Kabuto made me cringe. Like wth?

[luffyq1]

"It doesn’t matter what you use to justify war. Religion, philosophy, resources, land, revenge, love, even a whim. No matter how trivial the motive, they are all worthy causes of war. There will always be war. The reason can be found later. Human instinct seeks conflict.”

sry, but i don't agree with this at all. so if my cat dies can i start a war too? it's trivial, but hey.
 

One of my favorite quotes from Pain. No matter how you look at it, Obito's motives were just as valid as Madara's and Nagato's. If you strip their reasons down to the barest form, all tried to justify war because they hated the way the system worked. Madara hated the system that took his brothers from him. Nagato hated the system that took his parents and his best friend. Obito hated the system that took away the person he viewed as "his only light". 
 
If you go even further, Hashirama, Jiraiya, and Minato also wanted to change the world for the very same reasons as Obito, they all hated the way the world worked. So, in reality, all of their justifications were equivalent and the same at the core, the only real difference being in the way that they chose to approach changing the world. 

no amount of emotional trauma warrants an attempt on a babies life just mere seconds after entering the world, and what follows after that just gets even worse. sry, but i'm not changing my distaste for this. that was the most despicable act i've seen in this series.

[Liu bie]

I cannot believe Naruto Games has better ending than the manga and resolutions than the manga didn't have.