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#3201 4000TMNT

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 07:51 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Aug 9 2012, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what? The ones who are going to stop reading the manga are the western fans and big deal. If Kishi kills NH for good the Japanese won't give squat because they're not that hardcore for NH unlike NS which its famous (not as famous as yaoi pairings). And also big deal if they stop reading the manga a lot of the western fans read the manga online which it doesn't supports with Kishi's wallet because we're reading the manga for free. Most fans buy the volumes but if those western fans stop reading just because their favorite pairing won't happen then it won't affect his wallet at all. In fact he could care less what other fandoms might think he's not the only mangaka who has done something to the story that has upset/disappointed fans.

Take a look at Tite Kubo author of Bleach how many western fans were upset that he killed most of the espada like Grimjow or Ulquiora? It will be the same result with Kishi if he kills one pairing.

I totally agree.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 07:52 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Aug 9 2012, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thats pretty much lust :3 a strong(obsession) desire for someone :3

really ?! headscratch.gif but it doesn't seem lust cause i don't think kishi will do that to her fu.png

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Aug 9 2012, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
really ?! headscratch.gif but it doesn't seem lust cause i don't think kishi will do that to her fu.png


Why did you ignore my post? mad.gif

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Aug 9 2012, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i wanted to ask what people thought about this post shamefulcry0js.gif y no one comment back?

Lust is for Sasuke, which is why Kishi said that her love is selfish and/or shallow. As for Naruto, it's no doubt love. You can see a lot of panels that shows Sakura's happiness when Naruto cheers her up. That's real love. When you see her fangirl, it's not love at all. Just lust. In part 2, she needs to understand her feelings for Naruto and realize her feelings for Sasuke is not the same feeling for Naruto. She doesn't know true love yet. That's the last step of her relationship development. She thinks she loves Sasuke, but right now, she doesn't know about Naruto. So right now, Naruto is gaining on her, and Sasuke continues to be Sasuke. So we almost there.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Aug 9 2012, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chapter 347 page 10 say Hi!


see! thats what im talking about! >:o

shes totally lustin over him >:U

sasuke
SIGNS OF LUST

You're totally focused on a person's looks and body.
You're not interested in having conversations.
You'd rather keep the relationship on a fantasy level, not discuss real feelings.
You are lovers, but not friends.

naruto
SIGNS OF LOVE

You want to spend quality time together
You get lost in conversations and forget about the hours passing.
You want to honestly listen to each other's feelings, make each other happy.
He or she motivates you to be a better person.
You want to get to meet his or her family and friends.

^ what i found online :3

Edited by merryGOflava, 09 August 2012 - 07:57 PM.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 07:57 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Aug 9 2012, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chapter 347 page 10 says Hi!

The image isn't showing but I know which page you're talking about.

Coincidentally that same chapter parallels how both Naruto and Sakura are perverts. Naruto is a yuri fan while Sakura is a yaoi fan. laugh.gif

Each panel with each version of the sexy jutsu parallels the other. It goes right down to the excited faces Naruto and Sakura make when they see the sexy jutsu they like, and the disgusted faces they make when seeing the version they dislike.

Sometimes I feel like Kishi has a fetish for parallels.

Edited by redragon88, 09 August 2012 - 08:04 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2012 - 07:59 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Aug 9 2012, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The image isn't showing but I know which page you're talking about.

Coincidentally that same chapter parallels how both Naruto and Sakura are perverts. Naruto is a yuri fan while Sakura is a yaoi fan. laugh.gif

Sometimes I feel like Kishi has a fetish for parallels.

And the movie has entered the parallels section. laugh.gif

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:02 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Aug 9 2012, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why did you ignore my post? mad.gif

i'm sorry sweatdrop.gif when i replied to flava's , ur post wasn't there yet so... biggrin.gif
but i saw it now biggrin.gif and well, u have a point there but still it's hard to believe that it's lust cause lust when someone is in the mood for very strong sexual desire to for another and i don't see sakura like this. if she was, she would have pounced him a long time ago headscratch.gif but sakura is like forcing herself that she has affection for sasuke which she do not dry.gif

Edited by T XD, 09 August 2012 - 08:04 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:05 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Aug 9 2012, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i'm sorry sweatdrop.gif when i replied to flava's , ur post wasn't there yet so... biggrin.gif
but i saw it now biggrin.gif and well, u have a point there but still it's hard to believe that it's lust cause lust when someone is in the mood for very strong sexual desire to for another and i don't see sakura like this. if she was, she would have pounced him a long time ago headscratch.gif


she did try XD in chapter 3 she tried kissing sasuke(naruto) first

she was like " im ready!!"
and sasuke(naruto) was like "o-o-okay!"

and in another chapter when sasuke was hurt and she was helping him walk
she was mad she had to let him go XDD cause she enjoyed being close to him XD LOL

and in shippuden (it was posted) she got all happy seeing naked sasuke and sai (konohamaru transformation)

Edited by merryGOflava, 09 August 2012 - 08:08 PM.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:08 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Aug 9 2012, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
she did try XD in chapter 3 she tried kissing sasuke(naruto) first

she was like " im ready!!"
and sasuke(naruto) was like "o-o-okay!"

and in another chapter when sasuke was hurt and she was helping him walk
she was mad she had to let him go XDD cause she enjoyed being close to him XD LOL

then yea it is lust. i forgot about ch.3 XD

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:09 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 9 2012, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lust is for Sasuke, which is why Kishi said that her love is selfish and/or shallow. As for Naruto, it's no doubt love. You can see a lot of panels that shows Sakura's happiness when Naruto cheers her up. That's real love. When you see her fangirl, it's not love at all. Just lust. In part 2, she needs to understand her feelings for Naruto and realize her feelings for Sasuke is not the same feeling for Naruto. She doesn't know true love yet. That's the last step of her relationship development. She thinks she loves Sasuke, but right now, she doesn't know about Naruto. So right now, Naruto is gaining on her, and Sasuke continues to be Sasuke. So we almost there.

Can give me the link to when he said that, not saying your lying, its just I hear that all the time but I never knew were it came from.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:12 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Aug 9 2012, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i'm sorry sweatdrop.gif when i replied to flava's , ur post wasn't there yet so... biggrin.gif
but i saw it now biggrin.gif and well, u have a point there but still it's hard to believe that it's lust cause lust when someone is in the mood for very strong sexual desire to for another and i don't see sakura like this. if she was, she would have pounced him a long time ago headscratch.gif but sakura is like forcing herself that she has affection for sasuke which she do not dry.gif


Well whe did see her Initial behavior.

Then later she got a runny nose, I call that perverted mentality and that can be tied to sexual desire.

I'ts just like what merryGOflava said.

You're totally focused on a person's looks and body.
You're not interested in having conversations.
You'd rather keep the relationship on a fantasy level, not discuss real feelings.
You are lovers, but not friends.

Sasuke: I don't like anithing in particular and my desire is to kill one man.
Sakura: He is so cool?????????

Edited by NS means logic, 09 August 2012 - 08:15 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:17 PM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Aug 9 2012, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can give me the link to when he said that, not saying your lying, its just I hear that all the time but I never knew were it came from.

I will find it. It's going to take me a while. Apparently, I only find the one from the movie. Sheesh.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:18 PM

Sakura's reaction to naked Sasuke actually reminds me of a starstruck thingy, like if I see justin bieber ahahah no jk Orlando bloom naked. fu.png I didn't look like she she saw her soulmate or something.. x)

Edited by sushi., 09 August 2012 - 08:19 PM.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:27 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Aug 9 2012, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sakura's reaction to naked Sasuke actually reminds me of a starstruck thingy, like if I see justin bieber ahahah no jk Orlando bloom naked. fu.png I didn't look like she she saw her soulmate or something.. x)

Now I can't help but wonder what her reaction would be if Konohamaru transformed into a naked Naruto in front of her.

Since her feelings for Naruto are of genuine love, maybe instead of getting all perverted at seeing him she would get nervously angry while blushing like crazy. laugh.gif

Edited by redragon88, 09 August 2012 - 08:28 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:32 PM

Here's something I noticed.

Remember, the last confrontation between Naruto and Sasuke. I just noticed that Sakura AND Karin know the whole ordeal between them. This gives me a thought. We don't know when and where Karin is going to, but I feel like Kishi is truly setting up the final battle between them. Like all the buildup will be big. If Karin is going to Sasuke, then I can see them talking to each other one last time before the final battle. Sakura will be covering for Naruto, which most likely be a bigger conversation. It's a prediction of course, but I can see it happening. Karin and Sakura are the only kunoichis that knows about the clash between them. Not to mention, Sasuke is getting his team back. Well, not his doing, but they come to him. Also, the Uzumaki really put her above the rest of the team, excluding Sasuke. If you noticed, Karin seems to be the only getting the development out of all the team. So yeah, thought?

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:39 PM

I think he's at least planning something for Karin, considering her prison escape and the big reveal, she's an Uzumaki ( ohmy.gif ) ohmy

She's definetily the most important member of Taka hm.png , (aside from Sasuke ofcourse)

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:42 PM

Just so im not mistaken are you saying youd rather have narusaku vs sasukarin then just naruto vs sasuke?

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Aug 9 2012, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think he's at least planning something for Karin, considering her prison escape and the big reveal, she's an Uzumaki ( ohmy.gif ) ohmy

She's definetily the most important member of Taka hm.png , (aside from Sasuke ofcourse)

Not to mention, she's the only one with flashback that connects to Sasuke. Still wondering what Suigitsu means about her. The one he was like I know all about you and Sasuke and then she slaps him. I forgot what chapter was it. Anyway, I don't know that was addressed yet. Yes, she is the one with most development out of all the team, excluding Sasuke. I do wonder what plans Kishi has for her and Sasuke. If Kishi makes them a possible candidate of pairing, then I'm going to flat out say SS is 100% dead. Funny, Sasuke knows more of Karin and vice versa than Sakura. Imagine that.

@Branden: No, I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting how the buildup that leads to Naruto vs. Sasuke could be like. It's possible because this battle is supposedly the biggest hype yet and the audience would assume that they might end up dying together, so the drama before the fight is likely to happen.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 09 August 2012 - 08:49 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 9 2012, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's something I noticed.

Remember, the last confrontation between Naruto and Sasuke. I just noticed that Sakura AND Karin know the whole ordeal between them. This gives me a thought. We don't know when and where Karin is going to, but I feel like Kishi is truly setting up the final battle between them. Like all the buildup will be big. If Karin is going to Sasuke, then I can see them talking to each other one last time before the final battle. Sakura will be covering for Naruto, which most likely be a bigger conversation. It's a prediction of course, but I can see it happening. Karin and Sakura are the only kunoichis that knows about the clash between them. Not to mention, Sasuke is getting his team back. Well, not his doing, but they come to him. Also, the Uzumaki really put her above the rest of the team, excluding Sasuke. If you noticed, Karin seems to be the only getting the development out of all the team. So yeah, thought?

In retrospect the Kage summit really showed how Sakura acted for the sake of Naruto while Karin did the same for Sasuke. Of course the difference in both is that Sasuke betrayed Karin in the end, but until then it was really showing how she backed him up (assisting him in his fights against the Kages and advising him while he fought Danzo).

It really looks to me that Karin is the only girl capable of dealing with Sasuke's rather dark personality given that she a dark character herself.

Naruto and Sakura are the light couple while Sasuke and Karin are the dark couple.

Edited by redragon88, 09 August 2012 - 08:47 PM.





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