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[archangel]

 

Well a portion of the neutral fans, those interested in seeing the next Naruto film, and of course the NH/SS fans would have undoubtedly gone. While they may not comprise the overwhelming majority of viewers, it's likely that grouped together they could equal more than half. A decrease of about 50% sounds extreme, in my opinion. 

Well the situation he said seems right. yeah 50% sound extreme but not so far from true. What percentage NH fan represent in the movie sale? That the real question. The situation talk about honest advertising ok. Let's see.

 

Advertising it honestly would have been a change of Title (since that movie isn't the Last Naruto movie)

 

Telling people it's just NH love story since day 1 of the movie and to not expected Kakashi or Sasuke play important part. I mean they show both of them in the trailer to sell ticket, but Sasuke appear 20 sec. in it. Kakashi like 2 min.

 

Most neutral Naruto fan though it was the last movie ad wanted an explanation about the ending. Some thought maybe it would have contain NAruto celebration as the 7th Hokage. Most people wanted refund because they expected a shonen movie, not a shojo, well most of them (SS fan, Sasuke fan and Kakashi fan must have felt screwed) .  If the perception was honest, how many people would have gone see it.

 

You substract SS fan, Sasuke fan, Kakashi fan, neutral fan who expect something and fan that thought it would have been a shonen movie or just more action than romance. You've got only the NH fan  (and even some of them, since the pairing war is over and the hype is gone, begin to see that they are victim of an asspull and Naruto act like a douche in this movie.) . How many people we got left. Only NH fan  so how much they represent in movie sale is the real question. Since it hasn't been so well received, I believe 50% ain't so far off.

[ramenanmitsu]

A Japanese 2ch poster made a funny edit! If anyone can input English in the speech bubble I'll translate it. It talks about the fraud haha.

[Chatte]

A Japanese 2ch poster made a funny edit! If anyone can input English in the speech bubble I'll translate it. It talks about the fraud haha.

Oh really? niice!
 

OMG guys, btw, you should see some of the comments I have to approve on my website. Mainly people talking how my sources are trash that 2ch is like the lowest in Japanese fandom and all that.

 

Funny how when it's NH/SS positive news, 2ch is the most reliable source and was the most reliable up until now.

 

Now that the ending sucks, suddenly 2ch becomes like the lowest stuff... Yeah, right, lol!

[FireFox]

You know as disgusting as it is for a writer to act like he understands a real-world event and implements it in his story, I can actually see Kishi doing it. This is the guy who joked and laughed about Neji's death, calling a woman who moves on from an abusive relationship "terrible", and called a mass murderer "coolest guy". This man's moral standards are questionable at best. It's who he is. He's a sick man at heart and he has no idea about it.

And that's the sad part bc I've never saw him as such a despicable men as he is now I used to think that he has some dignity . But yeah after this ending and his disgusting interviews yeah I'm not surprised that this may come from him   ,  and oh the irony of him giving a message about morals and kitten   kitten please  you know kitten about morals and delivering a strong/powerful,meaningful message pft .

 

An author can screw all he wants with his fiction and what not  but one thing that he can't kitten around with is tragic life events such as 9/11 especially that event and sending some sick message like in here  that's disgusting and insulting to the people who died to their families who have suffered and there is no excuse for this   only a sick demented men would do this   and no kid should receive this message from him no one , if I was a parent or victim of that event I would sue the kitten out him for saying sick things like this .    

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Well... today it's a one of those bad days when you "care" about this mess happend. 

[archangel]

Kishimoto comparing the "Cycle of Hatred" to 9/11...what a kittening dumbass. XD
So who's the terrorist bombers? Sasuke? And Naruto's the building and we should all have compassion for Sasuke and not bring him to justice?
Kikitten gets more offensive with each and every interview.

Is this guy trying to sunk deeper each time he done an interview? 

I understand what he meant, but at the same time, why this event? We never seen anything in the story looking like the 9/11. Plus you threat the war aspect really poorly. We never saw any trial for Sasuke. Orochimaru disappear in nature. At the same time, do you want us to tried to understand people who manipulate other, put gun in children hand and go send their people blow themselves up?

 

Let me quote the dark knight here : You know, some people just want to watch the world burn.

 

Some people are beyond reasoning, that a sad reality but it is the case. It shouldn't have mention that. I mean who are you to ask the people who lost someone there to understand the killer of their love one. Somethings are meant to be left alone, hell I felt bad writing about it

 

 

Plus you just don't say things like that in an interview. You go general, like war and terrorism inspire my story.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Is this guy trying to sunk deeper each time he done an interview? 

I understand what he meant, but at the same time, why this event? We never seen anything in the story looking like the 9/11. Plus you threat the war aspect really poorly. We never saw any trial for Sasuke. Orochimaru disappear in nature. At the same time, do you want us to tried to understand people who manipulate other, put gun in children hand and go send their people blow themselves up?

 

Let me quote the dark knight here : You know, some people just want to watch the world burn.

 

Some people are beyond reasoning, that a sad reality but it is the case. It shouldn't have mention that. I mean who are you to ask the people who lost someone there to understand the killer of their love one. Somethings are meant to be left alone, hell I felt bad writing about it

 

 

Plus you just don't say things like that in an interview. You go general, like war and terrorism inspire my story.

 

Exactly what I'm seeing him doing. The world, meaning his work.

[六道仙人]

its funny kishi talks about life lessons through his manga. 

[NarutoUzumaki01]

its funny kishi talks about life lessons through his manga. 

Well, he talks, and he really has a point, story means kitten when it all goes down to money or whatever reason he draw those 2 chapters.

[redrose3443]

I almost feel bad for Kishi, because every time he opens his mouth, he sounds so ignorant. It's like he honestly believes what he's saying is not a big deal, but things like Sakura being a terrible woman, Neji being cupid, and Hinata being a pity case, has only served to anger those fans.

 

I just feel like this man has finally crawled out from under his rock, but because he's been so isolated and only had bullsh** SP to rely on, is now hurting his overall image as a mangaka and even as a person. I don't want to believe this guy is literally saying the dumbest kitten possible, because he feels every word he speaks, is right and the truth. But, more of the fact that he's so misguided, he doesn't realize how bad his interviews are.

 

However there's no way to tell what he's doing. He could either believe all this bullsh**, be misguided by bias ass SP, or is just trying to trash his slowly crumbling series, as some weird form of revenge.( which kinda reminds me of how Sasuke wanted to bring peace to the world, by being it's number one villain. Because funnily enough, many shippers have come together do to this disaster of an ending( like the shinobi alliance.), while nH/Ss( like the Akatsuki.) have either begun to dislike their own ship or are breaking up.)

 

However, there's not a doubt in my mind, that most of these problems were caused by SP and all those sh*tty fillers they created to make Hinata into some important character, even though she practically didn't do kitten in the manga and is only average in terms of ninja skill at best. Those bastards can burn for all I care.

Edited by redrose3443, 15 December 2014 - 11:07 AM.

[Popuri]

New interview again?   Give me the link, please?

[六道仙人]

Well, he talks, and he really has a point, story means kitten when it all goes down to money or whatever reason he draw those 2 chapters.

 

he doesn't suck only about romance, isn't? he is only good in bromance story.

[ramenanmitsu]

its funny kishi talks about life lessons through his manga.

I want you to see this! Good quality isn't it?

http://i.imgur.com/HA4oxZB.png

Especially "The support they received" and "what the customer actually wanted"

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 15 December 2014 - 11:12 AM.

[archangel]

The Last crap is even invading the game now. Should have guessed considering CC2 loves NH almost as much as SP.

game pics

 

They can count me out of it. Anyway, I've can even play revolution or any other Naruto game since the ending. It sad but it depress me. It's like I've taught you knew someone and he was just lying to you all along. I don't need to see those last chapter. I barely endure the Mecha-Naruto chapter with Hinata as the main star.

 

Someone compare this to GT. Difference, GT did has bad plot, but I felt like the character did stay true to themselves at least. The baby arc and Omega shenron fight in the end were ok (especially for a game). I was sad about the power chart ( like gohan really become a wimp and Piccolo barely shown) but in the end, character weren't totally rewrote. Anyway it will probably be only for PS4 and XB1 so I couldn't have it anyway. I see that I really play the storm series because I like Naruto more than the game itself :(. 

[Popuri]

I want you to see this! Good quality isn't it?

http://i.imgur.com/HA4oxZB.png

Especially "The support they received" and "what the customer actually wanted"

What's written there? T_T

[Popuri]

Was the rest of the interview posted yet.

If not: http://www.reddit.co..._the_kishimoto/

Oh, I've found it! Btw, what is "TnJ"?

[trang95]

Oh, I've found it! Btw, what is "TnJ"?

Talk no Jutsu

[lupina]

Oh, I've found it! Btw, what is "TnJ"?

 

Talk No Jutsu

 

The CUSTOMER ... by any means, I'm not a customer of Naruto. I was a Fan of Kishimotos work - and I supportet it by buying his stuff.

It is really sad to hear the whole series had always be just a product to them ... really sad ...

[ramenanmitsu]

What's written there? T_T

http://i.imgur.com/HA4oxZB.png
The Business report of THE LAST project

Top right to left
The promise/ Sales presentation: "A movie for all Naruto fans"

Programming Code: THE HINATA "Because the staff.....loves me!!"

Analyst Design: Naruto and Hinata

Project Leader's Understanding: NH family

Customer's necessary requirements: Kaguya, traveling Sasuke, Hokage Naruto, Orochimaru, Kabuto

Bottom right to left

What the Customer really needs: Team seven, Kakadhi Hokage, Naruto becoming Hokage, Orochimaru

The support to be received: Hiretsu-sama

Amount Billed: Death, Obito, "Fall to hell"

The actual execution: 15 years of Naruto(cancelled), NaruHina(with doll Naruto and happy Hinata)

Project documents: a lot

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 15 December 2014 - 11:36 AM.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

 

 

he doesn't suck only about romance, isn't? he is only good in bromance story.

Well, I can't say he sucked at romance before 699 appeared, to tell the truth, I hardly can think of his words that he can't write romance, because if he mean "the Last" crap-style - then surely there was no place for that in Naruto's shonen universe. But he clearly not that bad in love aspect, we saw all kinds of "love", we saw a mare "crush" of Ino and Sakura, we saw "obsession" of Hinata, we saw determination of Rock Lee, we saw brother who cared about his young brother more then for himself (Itachi), we saw parents that cared for their son even after death Minato and Kushina, we saw teacher who put his life onto edge for his student and etc etc. So it's clearly lies about "romance" as showing of feelings, more like akward kitten that happend in The Last, even kisses he draw was in-character (Tsunade forehead to Naruto, Dan to Tsunade).

 

 

Though the generations this "bromance" I can't get a grip on Sasuke's role, wtf happend to him in 698? I can see his point in creating one evil, for purpose of people to fight it together, and then he just saying "I was jealous of you"... Well, chapter was great, but character was turned so ooc, that I can't even see what was purpose of all this revenge of his. 

"perfect" bromance was about Hashirama killing Madara, because man stand up for better future of all people, and sacrificed his friend of chilhood it's not "good" but there is a point why it was this way.

In the end even this Naruto vs Sasuke thing went wrong in story-wise:

Naruto lost his arm, his love (as it appears latter) to his friend, he didn't became hokage after saving his friend (so much of early shippuuden, huh...) and all for not killing a men who kind of asked it.

Sasuke on other hand only lost his arm for everything he did, for everyone he killed, for all the time he hurted close friends of Naruto, for all the times he tried to destroy entire shinobi-system... He gained redemption, girl, freedom, all sorts of things only by lost of his arm. Unfair if you ask me. I know that Sasuke was one from main cast, hell, he even became Main Hero at the end, but if all went in a good way, there could be a better way to show his path to the light side, not a jump in 4 panels, well, kitten happends when you forced to do paring kitten based on otaku's fanfiction in 2 chapters. 

 

So I can say he sucked at all sorts of things at the end.

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 15 December 2014 - 11:41 AM.