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[Chatte]

omg same here!!! 

 

and what does this say guys, in narutos bubble? http://imxinfinite.t...-cover-i-wish-i

As I previously said, it's something about chocolate ninjutsu.

On February 14, in Japan, the girls give the boys they love a chocolate representing their love for them.

 

As for Sakura...gawd, here we are again. She didn't blush, it was simple dirt. The lines weren't simmetrical as they are for a blush. That's one.

And second, she is lying. Whenever she fakes her smile, she is hiding/lying. That's why we have Sai's comment there.

[Canadian_DJ]

As I previously said, it's something about chocolate ninjutsu.

On February 14, in Japan, the girls give the boys they love a chocolate representing their love for them.

 

As for Sakura...gawd, here we are again. She didn't blush, it was simple dirt. The lines weren't simmetrical as they are for a blush. That's one.

And second, she is lying. Whenever she fakes her smile, she is hiding/lying. That's why we have Sai's comment there.

Aaaaw, see even shounen approves of their love 

 

But, can i have the translation, what she's saying in quotes? 

 

Arigato!

[Chatte]

Aaaaw, see even shounen approves of their love 

 

But, can i have the translation, what she's saying in quotes? 

 

Arigato!

Unfortunately the pic is too small. I already tried to as my friend but she can't see the kanjis correct.

If you do find it on a larger scale, pass it to me and I'll do the translation. :)

[Inferno180]

I could (and have) argue chapter three but the first "real" moment Sakura fell in love with Naruto is here

 

 

chapter 13 page 19

 

notice she doesn't recognize the feeling because she has never truly loved Sasuke at least not like she loves Naruto

 

Sakura didn't really fall in love or start the whole NS deal here, this was just the start in which she realized her intial views were wrong, that he was not a screw up or just an idiot. I'd say NS had a slower start off around the time she wanted to forfit the chunin exams to protect his dream and as things went on like him winning against Neji and seeing her own faults, it made her want to train harder and better herself. The true start of it I consider though is when Sasuke tells her Naruto saved her and this was about the main event that began to change her outlook. In any case, unlike NH and SS which had all the right ingredients at the start, just the way the story played out, NS was part of the journey rather than the destination. The other 2 were just sighted destinations based on desire and hopes, yes in the same way NS could have been like that, but when there was little emphasis on it, NS just got more and more screentime, it made it clear the NS was most likely the romance subplot underlying the central plot points but still moving along with them ready to be brought up. Chapter 457 made it clear why naruto had not confessed to Sakura, out of his promise and he would not simply take advantage of Sasuke not being present. To him, he only wants Sakura to love him on her own choice, either he succeed with Sasuke and then confessed to her or she comes to him on her own will. As it is right now, something like this may pop up again when the reason for the fight for hokage is not simply about just the leadership position but also Sasuke's dark intent, possibly making Naruto's notion of them dying and him facing the biggest trial again like originally set up after the land of iron, Naruto would have to face his best friend but also the possibility of needing to make a difficult choice, but knowing Naruto he would find the unknown additional answer that goes beyond what was once thought and make it succeed in the end.

[Chatte]

So I found out something...

 

 

「うまくいくといいですね。」

"It’ll be good if it works out" 

(^More literal translation. I guess “Hope it works out for you" can work too, contextually-speaking, lol.) 

うまくいく= to go smoothly, to turn out well, to do the trick, to have peaceful relations 

「アナタが好きになる人だ。。。きっとステキないい人なんでしょうね」 

"It’s the person you like [after all]…Undoubtedly he must be a great person." 

ステキ (usually written in hiragana or kanji, but if in Katakana, it’s more to do with an accent or emphasis)= fantastic, superb, beautiful, great, lovely, cool, capital

 

Now looking at these raws, I think it highly changes the context. Let me tell you why.

I will be looking at a certain part be it: to have peaceful relations, to turn out well.

 

What if the trick and red-herring Kishi used here referrs to the fact that in the end, what Sakura wishes is that all this conflict is ended? It doesn't have to be necessarily about love, you know? Just that the person she likes, hopefully, everything will turn out peacefully between them. Considering the fact that 'last' time they saw each-other, it didn't turn out that way, on the contrary.

So that's why Sakura remembers Sasuke in those black flames. It's Kishi's way to trick us out thinking that it was a whole romantical context when, as a matter of fact, the emphasis hidden between that was that the situation, hopefully, won't be turning out violently between them again and actually peacefully, however, with no romantic implications.

Man, Kishi is tricky!

[bthug]

omg same here!!! 

 

and what does this say guys, in narutos bubble? http://imxinfinite.t...-cover-i-wish-i

Just realized Sakura is in a heart shaped bubble above and do you mean what shes saying? Cause I could probably translate that if it was bigger, I cant read kanji just yet. 

 

 

 

So what do you guys thing it will take for Sakura to realize she loves Naruto/ Or if you subscribe to another theory what will it take for Sakura to show that she loves Naruto. 

 

Intertwined what will it take for Naruto to realize that she is over Sasuke.  

[Chatte]

The only part my friend could read was the part with chocolate ninjutsu so knowing the tradition on Vday...

[Nefertieh]

Yes the fake smile make me wonder about the sincerity of Sakura , but Sai said that the words that she said were true , so what is more important , Words or Facial expression ? I dont know...
 
About the dirt on her face, im not so sure about it... I guess the only one who truely knows what it is is Kishimoto. But for me it seems like blush. 

The words sounded sincere but the face gave away that it was not. I guess I'm the only one who thinks it as straight forward as it can get. If she was honest, there would be no need for Kishimoto dedicate half a page to her obvious fake smile, complete with fake smile is fake commentary.

It looked like dirt to me, but the scans aren't very sharp - somebody mentioned Sakura's eyes looked like they were Edo Tensei in the previous chapter.

[Atheck]

Just realized Sakura is in a heart shaped bubble above and do you mean what shes saying? Cause I could probably translate that if it was bigger, I cant read kanji just yet. 
 
 
 
So what do you guys thing it will take for Sakura to realize she loves Naruto/ Or if you subscribe to another theory what will it take for Sakura to show that she loves Naruto. 
 
Intertwined what will it take for Naruto to realize that she is over Sasuke.

Possibly a traumatic event which compels her to realise just how much importance Naruto has to her. His life will be imperiled at the end of the battle with Sasuke and Sakura, having been instructed to remain back whilst they resolve the dissension that exists between them, will disregard those orders and rush to Naruto's die. Perhaps as she's attempting to heal him there will be no heartbeat and her attempts to revitalise him will seem hopeless at first. Sakura begins to cry, finally coming to understand what true love was when she decided to remain by Naruto's side in his dream to become Hokage and now she is able to comprehend the emotional desolation that comes with losing that person who is so close to your heart.

In essence, I would like for the old saying, "you never know what it is you have until it's gone" to come into play. Tragedy and loss have just as much of a purpose in romance as dedication or compassion. It's the one area of their relationship which they both could develop a better understanding of because it helps them to cherish not just their significant other but those who are close to them in life; and to not take them for granted. I want Sakura to experience that first-hand by having Naruto remain in a death-like state for the first part of Sakura's restoration process. To feel that emptiness, that misery with the knowledge of never being able to hear that person again. What I mean is pretty much like how that OVA depicted the scene.

[Canadian_DJ]

Unfortunately the pic is too small. I already tried to as my friend but she can't see the kanjis correct.

If you do find it on a larger scale, pass it to me and I'll do the translation. :)

Alright, i'm on the hunt!!  When im back i'll have the bigger one!!!!!   

 

Edit:I found this http://www.animevice...0025/83-167089/ Its the valentine cover, for some reason it has young sakura-chan. She looks so kawaii!!!

 

*continues searching*

 

Edit: http://forums.mangaf...scussionid=9863 FOUND IT!!! as fast as a ninja....    

http://s62.photobuck...Image4.png.html this is also the hero's and heroines cover!!!!

Edited by Canadian_DJ, 28 June 2013 - 02:46 PM.

[Nefertieh]

The only part my friend could read was the part with chocolate ninjutsu so knowing the tradition on Vday...

Ah, Google Search By Image would be perfect for this. Unfortunately, it doesn't work on my phone...

That picture is quite old, though I'm surprised I forgot that that L is paired up with Ryuk for some reason.

Please forward our thanks to your friend, Chatte.

Edited by Nefertieh, 28 June 2013 - 02:50 PM.

[Chatte]

Yeah it's 876 x 630 which is the size I remember I gave to my friend so she couldn't read...

However, I'll ask her once more, maybe I gave her a smaller version.

[Canadian_DJ]

Yeah it's 876 x 630 which is the size I remember I gave to my friend so she couldn't read...

However, I'll ask her once more, maybe I gave her a smaller version.

Much appreciated, i'll also go and ask ramen just in case.

 

Looking forward to your reply. 

[bthug]

Possibly a traumatic event which compels her to realise just how much importance Naruto has to her. His life will be imperiled at the end of the battle with Sasuke and Sakura, having been instructed to remain back whilst they resolve the dissension that exists between them, will disregard those orders and rush to Naruto's die. Perhaps as she's attempting to heal him there will be no heartbeat and her attempts to revitalise him will seem hopeless at first. Sakura begins to cry, finally coming to understand what true love was when she decided to remain by Naruto's side in his dream to become Hokage and now she is able to comprehend the emotional desolation that comes with losing that person who is so close to your heart.

In essence, I would like for the old saying, "you never know what it is you have until it's gone" to come into play. Tragedy and loss have just as much of a purpose in romance as dedication or compassion. It's the one area of their relationship which they both could develop a better understanding of because it helps them to cherish not just their significant other but those who are close to them in life; and to not take them for granted. I want Sakura to experience that first-hand by having Naruto remain in a death-like state for the first part of Sakura's restoration process. To feel that emptiness, that misery with the knowledge of never being able to hear that person again. What I mean is pretty much like how that OVA depicted the scene.

Yes that'd be perfect, maybe Kurama will be ripped out of him or better yet maybe he takes a death blow for Sakura. Also wouldn't it be nice when Naruto comes back he says its thanks to Sakura. But probably above all I want a flashback from both sides, especially Sakura thinking about all the moments they've had and maybe some inner thoughts. The flashbacks good give new found meanings. 

[Chatte]

Possibly a traumatic event which compels her to realise just how much importance Naruto has to her. His life will be imperiled at the end of the battle with Sasuke and Sakura, having been instructed to remain back whilst they resolve the dissension that exists between them, will disregard those orders and rush to Naruto's die. Perhaps as she's attempting to heal him there will be no heartbeat and her attempts to revitalise him will seem hopeless at first. Sakura begins to cry, finally coming to understand what true love was when she decided to remain by Naruto's side in his dream to become Hokage and now she is able to comprehend the emotional desolation that comes with losing that person who is so close to your heart.

In essence, I would like for the old saying, "you never know what it is you have until it's gone" to come into play. Tragedy and loss have just as much of a purpose in romance as dedication or compassion. It's the one area of their relationship which they both could develop a better understanding of because it helps them to cherish not just their significant other but those who are close to them in life; and to not take them for granted. I want Sakura to experience that first-hand by having Naruto remain in a death-like state for the first part of Sakura's restoration process. To feel that emptiness, that misery with the knowledge of never being able to hear that person again. What I mean is pretty much like how that OVA depicted the scene.

I kinda subscribe to this...it would be the best scenario.

Tho I have to admit, somewhere in-between, dunno where, I want Sakura to punch Sasuke at least one time, .

[sushi.]

I kinda subscribe to this...it would be the best scenario.

Tho I have to admit, somewhere in-between, dunno where, I want Sakura to punch Sasuke at least one time, .

I want that too, but I can only see it if he does something to Naruto.

 

I know people want her to punch him because he tried to kill her, but who hasn't he tried to kill? I like that she's so selfless.

 

Sasuke tried to kill her, she didn't say anything. He badmouths Naruto and she snapped. XD

[Chatte]

I want that too, but I can only see it if he does something to Naruto.

 

I know people want her to punch him because he tried to kill her, but who hasn't he tried to kill? I like that she's so selfless.

 

Sasuke tried to kill her, she didn't say anything. He badmouths Naruto and she snapped. XD

True. That glare... dunno if I saw that glare before, so much hate in her eyes, really. Not even in her battle with Sasori I didn't see Sakura have such a fierce and hateful look. Yet when Sasuke badmouthed Naruto, bam! She cut lose ...

[Akashi]

I'm pretty sure that Kishi will pull something like Uniqlo OVA to confirm Sakura's feelings towards Naruto. 

[redragon88]

So I found out something...

 

 

「うまくいくといいですね。」

"It’ll be good if it works out" 

(^More literal translation. I guess “Hope it works out for you" can work too, contextually-speaking, lol.) 

うまくいく= to go smoothly, to turn out well, to do the trick, to have peaceful relations 

「アナタが好きになる人だ。。。きっとステキないい人なんでしょうね」 

"It’s the person you like [after all]…Undoubtedly he must be a great person." 

ステキ (usually written in hiragana or kanji, but if in Katakana, it’s more to do with an accent or emphasis)= fantastic, superb, beautiful, great, lovely, cool, capital

 

Now looking at these raws, I think it highly changes the context. Let me tell you why.

I will be looking at a certain part be it: to have peaceful relations, to turn out well.

 

What if the trick and red-herring Kishi used here referrs to the fact that in the end, what Sakura wishes is that all this conflict is ended? It doesn't have to be necessarily about love, you know? Just that the person she likes, hopefully, everything will turn out peacefully between them. Considering the fact that 'last' time they saw each-other, it didn't turn out that way, on the contrary.

So that's why Sakura remembers Sasuke in those black flames. It's Kishi's way to trick us out thinking that it was a whole romantical context when, as a matter of fact, the emphasis hidden between that was that the situation, hopefully, won't be turning out violently between them again and actually peacefully, however, with no romantic implications.

Man, Kishi is tricky!

 

Doesn't feel like that to me. The fact that Kishi made lover nin end the conversation with "Undoubtedly he must be a great person." shows that Sakura was thinking in the context of Sasuke not really being the great person that people would praise someone like her for liking.

 

It reinforces that Sakura is not being sad because "Sasuke is trapped in the darkness", she disappointed at herself for her feelings. I think this is the moment Sakura starts realizing that she gave Sasuke way too much credit. Sasuke has many personality flaws but Sakura didn't want to acknowledge them. To her Sasuke was the greatest guy ever, but he was caught in bad circumstances.

 

This might've been the first step for Sakura to realize that the Sasuke she has kept loving all along is just a product of her imagination. She loves the concept of what she wants Sasuke to be if he comes back to their side, and now that such has precisely happened this gives a great opportunity for Sakura to realize if Sasuke being back is all that she wanted it to be. So far it seems it isn't.

 

That's not to say that Sakura will end up disliking Sasuke, but she'll realize that her fantasy love kept her from acting like an equal teammate towards him (she kept putting him on a pedestal). She'll understand that the real Sasuke and the one she wanted to love were different people all along. That the real Sasuke doesn't appeal to her romantically since he was never this "great guy" she made up in her mind, and that the fantasy Sasuke she desired was based more on childish self-indulgent thoughts and not on true love like the one she found with Naruto.

 

Once Sakura understands all of that she can finally act like herself around Sasuke without any reservation, thus bringing her development regarding him to full circle.

[Nefertieh]

 
Doesn't feel like that to me. The fact that Kishi made lover nin end the conversation with "Undoubtedly he must be a great person." shows that Sakura was thinking in the context of Sasuke not really being the great person that people would praise someone like her for liking.
 
It reinforces that Sakura is not being sad because "Sasuke is trapped in the darkness", she disappointed at herself for her feelings. I think this is the moment Sakura starts realizing that she gave Sasuke way too much credit. Sasuke has many personality flaws but Sakura didn't want to acknowledge them. To her Sasuke was the greatest guy ever, but he was caught in bad circumstances.
 
This might've been the first step for Sakura to realize that the Sasuke she has kept loving all along is just a product of her imagination. She loves the concept of what she wants Sasuke to be if he comes back to their side, and now that such has precisely happened this gives a great opportunity for Sakura to realize if Sasuke being back is all that she wanted it to be. So far it seems it isn't.
 
That's not to say that Sakura will end up disliking Sasuke, but she'll realize that her fantasy love kept her from acting like an equal teammate towards him (she kept putting him on a pedestal). She'll understand that the real Sasuke and the one she wanted to love were different people all along. That the real Sasuke doesn't appeal to her romantically since he was never this "great guy" she made up in her mind, and that the fantasy Sasuke she desired was based more on childish self-indulgent thoughts and not on true love like the one she found with Naruto.
 
Once Sakura understands all of that she can finally act like herself around Sasuke without any reservation, thus bringing her development regarding him to full circle.

Simply put, this is a case of dramatic irony. The audience knows the truth, Sakura knows the truth, but Sakura's admirer doesn't.