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[Ani]

He did get her attention when he came back from the Sasuke Retrieval Arc when he was skinny. Thats why I hope Chouji gets her attention away from Sai. That would be great! Apparently the InoChos and SaiInos are fighting now. I still hold faith to InoCho, though.

[Zahrn]

No, he would need to do more than just be skinny. He needs to go up to her and talk to her. You do not know what will happen if you do not try. She might laugh at him; she might be shocked; who knows. He just needs to talk to her.

It doesn't surpirse me that they are fighting now. With Sai in the picture, Chouji has a lot of work cut out for him.

[Ani]

Im not saying he needs to be skinny. Just saying that got her attention. She said he was kinda cute. XD

I think he needs to talk to her, too.

[Random Nobody]

hmmm....I wonder if Ino's little crush on Sai is just a plot device to get Chouji jealous so he'll talk to her. It would be interesting if Kishi actually put that much effort into a pairing involving secondary characters.

[Ani]

I was thinking about that, too! I hope thats what it is. If Ino stays like this, she'll just be a flat, static character. Not much improvement from day one.

[Random Nobody]

Yea I'm hoping her character gets developed more to. Personally I like ChoujiIno and I'm starting to like SaiIno so as long she gets developed I'll be happy. Then again I just want to see Sai paired with someone cause his completle lack of social skills are guranteed to make for a hilarious couple

[Ani]

I couldn't see him with anyone because he's a social retard. XD Still like him, though.

[Random Nobody]

Yea I guess he is kind of a social retard If he did get into a relationship he would have to learn more about them from Naruto and Sakura hmmmm...I like that idea! Naruto and Sakura trying to teach Sai about relationships would be hilarious.

[Ani]

In our dreams. XD That would be funny, though.

[Zahrn]

Yea I'm hoping her character gets developed more to. Personally I like ChoujiIno and I'm starting to like SaiIno so as long she gets developed I'll be happy. Then again I just want to see Sai paired with someone cause his completle lack of social skills are guranteed to make for a hilarious couple

Sai doesn't need a pairing yet. He is just getting the hang of having friends still. Lets not toss him to the sharks. Well, now that I thought about it for a second... toss him to the sharks.

I like that idea! Naruto and Sakura trying to teach Sai about relationships would be hilarious.

Well, I think we are getting closer. Look how they reacted towards Sai's nickname for Chouji. They both realized what he was going to say almost at the same time. It almost means that they accepted Sai as a teammate. If they didn't care about him, they would have let Chouji turn him into red paste. *lol*

[Vivi]

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I'll take at stab at this.

Of SasuSaku: the problem with that pairing is that it'd have to start "all over again." It can't be based on anything from before:

I think the "before" is important. That's why it exists. It would keep them from having to "start all over again." Naruto knew what happened at VotE. Sakura knew that he left and knew that he rejected her once again. However, that hasn't stopped them from wanting to get him back. Not one bit.

If both Naruto and Sakura want to get him back..How is that SasuSaku?

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1. It's never been the same Sasuke. The Sasuke Sakura gained a crush on was not the real Sasuke, but an idealized vision of him. She gained a crush on a cool incredible guy, whom she hoped could compliment her with comments such as "lovely forehead", would give her encouragements, would speak to her. Sasuke turned out to be none of these. Her crush was still based on the same perception of Sasuke until the end though: even after the Gaara fight, she went squeely at the thought that Sasuke saved her. But he didn't. She gained additional feelings of care for the Real Sasuke, the one who needed help, but is this need to care romantic? In my opinion, after the VotE events, Sakura definitely let go of her idealized vision of Sasuke, and instead did focus on the real Sasuke, whom she did need to care for, but not necessarily love romantically. This part is pure speculation though.

Sasuke did encourage her and he did protect her. He's also motivated her. She got to see different sides of Sasuke. The more sides she sees the more she "gets" him. She'll be instrumental in putting the pieces of the puzzle together for him. I think she got to see that Sasuke wasn't so perfect during FoD. Then the hospital situation was also quite telling. Her feelings still remained strong. They were teammates afterall and they did grow closer. Naruto and Sakura both became important to him. And is it so wrong to be happy to see someone protect you that you have feelings for? If anything that's where we learned that he truly cared.

Sasuke just CAUGHT her! That's it...Naruto did the rest. And I don't think she "got" Sasuke yet. I truly think in Sasuke's depart chapter, she was expecting him to stay.

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2. It's no longer the same Sakura. Sakura has two personality modes: the one she showed around Naruto, the "Inner Sakura" Sakura whom as we all believe, is her more true self. Then there was the Sakura that dealt with Sasuke: more subdued so to say, also less confident and more desperate. But since then, this Sakura has died. Normal Sakura has fused with Inner Sakura, so we'll no longer see the Sakura who desperately pleaded with Sasuke while hating herself for her own inability to do anything. The newer, stronger Sakura takes things into her own hands. But at the same time, this Sakura has Never interacted with Sasuke, only with Naruto (and others such as Ino).

This "less confident and more desperate" Sakura is where we can see true growth, imo. Not to mention, she's now willing to stand up to him and I think she was willing to do it around FoD as well to an extent. Sasuke needs strong people with him. He needs support and needs to be put in his place. Sakura has proven that she's up for the challenge.

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3. the model of love Sakura wanted to give Sasuke has also proven to be a complete failure. What's Sakura about to do, love Sasuke more? Sasuke doesn't respect love at this point, he respects power (even at the VotE, it was only through power that Naruto knocked Some sense into him), and that's probably the only way Sakura will get through to him as well, nothing to do with the crying girl he left pre-timeskip. =\

I think the love she gave him was working and that's why he had to leave. I know I sound like a broken record, but each response will need this rebuttle. Even as he left, she got a thank you out of him. A genuine thank you that he hadn't said to anyone as far as we know. Not to mention, the databook said that she filled his lonely existence. And even post time-skip he said himself that those bonds made him weaker and made him stray away from what his goal was. This was of course, after what Itachi did to him, making him relive that pain all over again for 72 hours. Power is what is necessary for all of these characters. It was necessary to straighten out Neji, and it was necessary to straighten out Gaara. It likely will be the same with Sasuke if Kishi's going that route. It's the only thing that's going to make him get past his current state of mind. And with Neji and Gaara, they still had the love of their family and friends after their "rude awakenings," despite how they'd be acting before.

He said thank you before he went to Orochimaru, he said thank you before he stabbed a Chidori in Naruto's lung. He said thank you before many things happened. That was the old Sasuke. We're looking at the NEW Sasuke.

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What I'm saying is that everything about "SasuSaku" right now will basically have to be completely written: nothing that has been shown in the past can be prolonged into a future relationship. So while SasuSaku is still possible, save for a discarding of character development, it is impossible to revert to a previous model as suggested by previous interactions.

There's lots of manga to go. Part 1 is what will save Sasuke. That's where his memories and bonds are with them. He may have burried them, but not everybody is convinced that he's killed them quite yet.

I have nothing to say.

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For Naruto and Sakura though, it's the same Naruto, it's the same Sakura. They've both grown, but they truly see each other for themselves.

That's how a team and friends should be. Besides, it's not like it was Naruto and Sakura he had the problem with anyway. Sasuke's seen them BOTH for themselves before and could do it again. You don't need to be in a romantic relationship to have this. If Kishi makes is so that Sasuke sees them for themselves again, it's just going to have to be the hard way. I think Naruto, Sakura, AND Kakashi are going to see him for his true self first in order to strike the chord that will break him down. And then the wheels can be set in motion

That's all I have to do. I don't debate that well. )

[Danni]

woa that a long post it took me about 10 min to read all of that. But you have a point and sakura isnt that helpless girl anymore.
give me a N,give me a A, give me a R,( ok this is takeing to long)U,S,A,K,U. Now what does that say Narusaku!!!!.

[Random Nobody]

Well, I think we are getting closer. Look how they reacted towards Sai's nickname for Chouji. They both realized what he was going to say almost at the same time. It almost means that they accepted Sai as a teammate. If they didn't care about him, they would have let Chouji turn him into red paste. *lol*

Yep, he's a part of the team now! Naruto and Sakura are definatly starting to care about him and it would be nice if Sai gets more development in the upcoming chapters.

You did a great job debating Hinata-chan :thumbs: Although that post was kinda odd, it basically said the SasuSaku couldn't happen based off any of the hints in Part One, but they thought it would still happen cause Sasuke and Sakura would get closer after they save him. Which is plausible, but still unlikely to me since I don't think they'll be rescuing Sasuke anytime soon. As a matter of fact I think he's gonna be the last person Naruto has to fight before the show's finished.

woa that a long post it took me about 10 min to read all of that. But you have a point and sakura isnt that helpless girl anymore.
give me a N,give me a A, give me a R,( ok this is takeing to long)U,S,A,K,U. Now what does that say Narusaku!!!!.

Heh, your quite excited aren't you? And yea that post was kinda long, but still one of the stranger SasuSaku posts I read, I mean were they really arguing for SasuSaku, or just arguing for how they think it could happen?

[Ani]

Yeah, that was a strange argument.

Dont worry about her. She's always hyper. She needs to get off the coke.

[Vivi]

I really don't know....But those SasuSakus crack me up sometimes, they do! Hahhahhhhahahah Here's another one. I don't feel like countering it.

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I personally never hate a fandom. There may be a particular fan that I'm not too crazy about and there may be a particular pairing that I'm not too crazy about, but the fandom in itself does exactly what we do. Like something and support it. You've got people that want to be rational about and and people that don't.

As for the nice fan that you talked to. I will admit that NaruSaku fans have their strong points (and as of right now, the possibility of their pairing looks a lot healthier than ours at the moment), but at the same time, you could look at it in other ways.

The greatest thing about Naruto and Sakura is that they have the ability to be romantic even without being overly sappy and amorous.

I think that SasuSaku can be the same way in their relationship. She loved him all the same for who he was and he cared for her too since she became precious to him.

First off, they think alike, as shown in Naruto’s fight against Kiba, in Chapter 3, during those times when Kakashi was late, and a lot of chapters after the time-skip. I can see them as the greatest teammates. When there’s a brainstorming time, all they need to do is look at each other and nod, and let the plan commence, because they are perfectly synchronized. Of course, it doesn’t have to be like that all the time. There will be times when Naruto goes way ahead of himself, and Sakura would care to disagree and give him a good smack if ever he becomes a persistent brat, because Sakura doesn’t worship Naruto like Hinata does. When Naruto does wrong, she can give him a good lecture and/or calm him down.

I don't see how thinking alike is a necessary basis for a romantic relationship. That doesn't help for growth, imo.

Hinata may hold Naruto in a high regard but we don't know how she'd treat him if they were in a relationship. Obviously she'd be very sweet and nurturing as she did make naruto feel better when he had to go fight Neji. However, I remember a time where Kiba tried to say something about Naruto and Hinata corrected him. So I think she wouldn't have a problem correcting you if you're wrong, Naruto included. If she were to be a yes-man for Naruto then she'd go along with EVERYTHING he says and when he was down and out about Neji, she technically didn't do that. Not to mention, Naruto brought out strength in Hinata as well during the Chuunin exams.

Sasuke can bring out these things in Sakura too. He is capable of lifting her spirits and he's capable of making her think. He can influence her greatly (as I stated earlier). She also can influence him. When he was overtaken by the CS in FoD, she kept him from going any further in hurting that sound nin. Just being around him in general and loving him helped mellow him out a bit. And as the databook said, "she filled his lonely existence."

Granted this is the "old" Sasuke we're talking about. However, I think he's still down in there somewhere because his logic is too flawed right now IMO and there are things that he hasn't truly come to terms with, like his true feelings for his teamates.

These two have a lot of similarities, as well as enough opposites to keep a relationship going. Sure, Naruto is a dumbass and Sakura is second to Shikamaru in intelligence, but they’re both wonderfully energetic and they can live the moment as happily as can be. Their personalities are perfectly balanced, and their characteristics needn’t be changed if ever they get in a relationship.

NaruHina's got a great balance too. A better one if you ask me. Naruto can be off the wall, but Hinata can be calming for him and it wouldn't have to be with fists. And at the same time he could keep her on her toes. I would love for such a dynamic to be able to work out in the end. In a romantic relationship, you're supposed to be able to be yourself while giving someone a certain fulfillment that they can't get from a friend. SasuSaku has that written all over it. They can speak their minds to each other while learning a thing or two to keep themselves going.

They motivate each other, learn from each other, and grow stronger with one another, as demonstrated when Sakura felt that she needed to do her best whenever she sees Naruto fight, and when Sakura calms Naruto down whenever he gets way ahead of himself. Sakura can find strength and determination in Naruto, and at the same time, Naruto can find wisdom and maturity from Sakura. They complement each other very well, and with each other, they can be very strong.

Naruto makes just about everybody stronger and he makes everyone find strength and determination in themselves. That's not unique to Sakura. He did it for Hinata too. Not to mention, Sakura could get the same thing from Sasuke. He's a key reason why she is who she is today. She's spent all of this time training and becoming stronger for him. Naruto can find wisdom and maturity from anyone else to. It's simply what being social is all about.

And in terms of growing stronger together. If you're a team then you grow stronger as a team regardless. That also doesn't necessarily mean that it must allude to romance.

I suppose NaruSaku isn't all that special to me because they're already accomplishing these things as friends. A romantic relationship wouldn't really further or improve any of that at this point

The parts the were NaruSaku were posted by the same person. Not me. Thsi is from a thread like ours...except it's SasuSaku. The funny thing is part of it's NaruSaku. (well...kinda.)

[Danni]

( start crying ) your so mean anime-chan j/k Yeah i had about a couple of coke. I get to go to work ( starts dancing) I get my PAY CHECK THUR yea now i have to pick up my game ( naruto ps2 game)

[Ani]

If they go by the Data Book they should see Hinata admires him, not loves him. If SasuSaku were to happen Naruto wouldn't need to be shoved into a relationship with Hinata.

[Danni]

huh my confuss anime-chan what are you talking about?

[Ani]

Im saying, if SasuSaku happened, I couldn't see Naruto with anyone else.

[Random Nobody]

Im saying, if SasuSaku happened, I couldn't see Naruto with anyone else.

Ya know, I'll be the first to admit that I like a lot of crack pairings, including some involving Naruto and Sakura with other people. I have to agree, though, that in the canon storyline if SasuSaku happens I really don't think Naruto will get with anyone else, and don't give me any of that "NaruHina will happen by default!" crap either, default pairings are the worse things that can happen in animes and besides, Naruto's the freaking main character so I doubt he would get shoved into a default relationship.

Well Hinata-chan you found yet another interesting post. You really are great at finding these :thumbs: This one's a little harder to argue, mostly cause most of it's NaruSaku anyway, so I'll just argue the parts I don't agree with.

NaruHina's got a great balance too. A better one if you ask me. Naruto can be off the wall, but Hinata can be calming for him and it wouldn't have to be with fists. And at the same time he could keep her on her toes. I would love for such a dynamic to be able to work out in the end. In a romantic relationship, you're supposed to be able to be yourself while giving someone a certain fulfillment that they can't get from a friend. SasuSaku has that written all over it. They can speak their minds to each other while learning a thing or two to keep themselves going.

Okay here's the problem with this argument, there's no proof. There is nothing in the manga that shows that Hinata can calm Naruto down, fists or no fists. The only time the two of them have had a real conversation the only thing she did was pump him up for his fight against Neji. When he acted like a moron at the Chuunin Exam and yelled that no one could beat him, Hinata giggled well Sakura stepped in and calmed him down with her violence It's possible that Hinata might be able to calm Naruto down, but first she needs to get over her shyness and need to be able to actually talk to him, and if she does stop being shy on her own then what's the point of the NaruHina pairing? She could just become clan head and be happy that she achievd her dream.

Naruto makes just about everybody stronger and he makes everyone find strength and determination in themselves. That's not unique to Sakura. He did it for Hinata too. Not to mention, Sakura could get the same thing from Sasuke. He's a key reason why she is who she is today. She's spent all of this time training and becoming stronger for him. Naruto can find wisdom and maturity from anyone else to. It's simply what being social is all about.

If I've said it once, I've said it a million times she trained for more than just Sasuke. She didn't start training for Sasuke and suddenly decided to train for Naruto later, she was training for both of them from the beginning, thus why when she asked Tsunade to train her there was the images of both Naruto and Sasuke in the background. Also Naruto can't just get that wisdome and maturity from anyone else cause he doesn't listen to anyone else, he only listens to Sakura. Oh and give me one example were Sasuke ever inspired Sakura to have strength and determination. The only time Sasuke helped Sakura get stronger was when he left the village and gave her a goal to train for, he didn't motivate her like Naruto does, he didn't encourage her like Naruto does, and he certainly doesn't help her get stronger.

Well that's all I've got to say about that. It's kinda strange when you found an argument were the opposing side is arguing for you