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[Bail o' Lies]

But she's like twelve. Honestly I wouldn't have minded her outfit if she at least wore some pants

 

Well, she isn't and small part can create a huge stir. Case in point, me.

I can't recall but i think her old outfit was basically her new outfit...but with pants. So it's the removal of those that is causing the stir...wasn't this explain a week ago?

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 30 December 2015 - 08:23 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

naruto was the new dbz back then, as is it was the new thing to obsess over. it was easy because the world was interesting with simple rules. did i compare it to dbz? not at all, i thought it was stupid to do so. i wanted this to be its own thing. what got me into naruto was the characterization. i was so hooked on dbz it made me forgot what really mattered in a show/movie. it was never about the fights or who was most powerful, it was about the emotion and characters, relationships and story.

 

did dbz have that? sometimes. one would argue vegeta had it but, i never cared for vegeta till after his majin phase but, still there was no tension thanks to the dragonballs. gohan had his moments too but there were few and far between to the point he was shoved back in favor of goku again. yes i know it was his story but here's the thing; toriyama wanted to end dbz multiple times. fans couldn't respect that and demanded more. now look where we are. we practically got dragonball AF with literal recolored superforms.

The problem with dragonball was Goku completed his journey by the end of Dragonball. Dragonball Z was suppose to be the journey of Gohan...but then people kittened about wanting Goku and so tori had to go back to him. So the problem is in DBZ is Goku has no arc he is a completed character by the end of Dragonball and the only thing he has in DBZ are learning he's an alien and defeating freeza after that he wanted to pass on what he knew to the next generation so they can handle the responsibility when he is no longer around. But he can't do that because people want goku.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
I can't recall but i think her old outfit was basically her new outfit...but with pants. So it's the removal of those that is causing the stir...wasn't this explain a week ago?

They're different. Heels, no pants, short skirt BEGGING for panty shot, and while similar to previous, it's a different style. This seems like an attempt for sex appeal, which is funny because she was once like an anti-Kishi woman interpretation before but now, she was fallen to the MAN.

[Yyubie]

Since himaw is still too young and chou chou is fat and ugly they have no choice to go with Sarada.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

How it should've ended need to do a How Naruto should've ended video kinda like this one:
 

I can so imagine Naruto yelling like that and Sakura is embarrassed.

[Yyubie]

I wonder why Harry Potter not continue with their kids like Naruto??

I heard the movie and the novel was a huge success they can just make the next adventure with harry kids like naruto now.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I wonder why Harry Potter not continue with their kids like Naruto??
I heard the movie and the novel was a huge success they can just make the next adventure with harry kids like naruto now.

Well, they're doing a spin off of a completely different character (more or less), so there's that, but nothing revolving the adventure of Harry Potter since it is done.

[rocci]

The true succesor of db is onepiece.

Salad is anti kishi woman because she's serviceable.

[SlyNinjaKnight]

I wonder why Harry Potter not continue with their kids like Naruto??

I heard the movie and the novel was a huge success they can just make the next adventure with harry kids like naruto now.

 

 

Well, they're doing a spin off of a completely different character (more or less), so there's that, but nothing revolving the adventure of Harry Potter since it is done.

 

 

 

Well, JK Rowling has come out with a theatre play, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, that I believe is starting shows in April 2016. And it is supposed to be about Albus Severus, Harry's youngest son. So I guess you could consider that a continuation of the Harry Potter series. Though in my opinion, just being saddled with the name Albus Severus is enough of a curse to begin with.

[TouKen4Life3g]

My problem is that it's overstaying its welcome. They didn't let a year off to get a new series. It really defeats the purpose of "it all ends." It's equivalent to retirement in wrestling, they will come back much sooner.

[rocci]

They're just milking the series.
Let's see if the audience want it.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

The problem with dragonball was Goku completed his journey by the end of Dragonball. Dragonball Z was suppose to be the journey of Gohan...but then people kittened about wanting Goku and so tori had to go back to him. So the problem is in DBZ is Goku has no arc he is a completed character by the end of Dragonball and the only thing he has in DBZ are learning he's an alien and defeating freeza after that he wanted to pass on what he knew to the next generation so they can handle the responsibility when he is no longer around. But he can't do that because people want goku.

And you can definitely tell that Toriyama was trying to convey that to the audience since the beginning of DBZ...

1.) Gohan revealing huge potential, Goku dies and Gohan is taken under Piccolo's wing.

2.) SSj Goku supposedly dying on Namek while Gohan had only gotten a lot stronger than before while there was even The History of Trunks where Gohan was the new Goku there, training Trunks and so on.

3.) Probably the biggest show being Goku dying from Cell's self-destruction and then, after it's over, explicitly asking everyone not to wish him back to life with the Dragon Balls (because so many of the dangers to Earth were because of those dangers wanting to kill Goku) and Gohan already having far surpassed everyone else now that he had awakened, and had control of, his power and became SSj2.

4.) Goku being unable to remain on Earth having a one free day of being among the living, thus allowing Gohan to again have his powers fully awakened and become the strongest, far beyond even SSj3.

[Yyubie]

Is it really common in the anime/manga world that the story change because of the fans demands it?

[rocci]

Is it really common in the anime/manga world that the story change because of the fans demands it?

Yes.
Audience/reader is god.

They should just change the name of dragon ball to something else if they want to use gohan as the protagonist.

Edited by rocci, 30 December 2015 - 11:57 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

At least Dragon Ball is more like a new story each passing saga, whereas Naruto relies on one grand story and with new ideas thrown in by fans so to say, it gets really messy.

[Catra]

fusion and ssj3 were pointless additions that didn't get anyone anywhere.

 

i actually just had an idea. instead of working individually the humans could combine their techniques to become a devastating force. yamcha and krillen could combine their sig techs to create a remote controlled destructo disc for example.

 

maybe then fans wouldn't mock humans so much?

[TouKen4Life3g]

fusion and ssj3 were pointless additions that didn't get anyone anywhere.

 

i actually just had an idea. instead of working individually the humans could combine their techniques to become a devastating force. yamcha and krillen could combine their sig techs to create a remote controlled destructo disc for example.

 

maybe then fans wouldn't mock humans so much?

Buu Saga was a real fully Saiyan-only fighters. Other than that, while they couldn't keep up, they did many things than I can say for K11. That's bad.

[Catra]

i know, poor kiba and shino.

 

team 10 had combo moves

 

team 8 were more of tracker ninja

 

team guy were more martial artists

 

team suna, well we didn't get to see much of them as a team

 

team 7 my gosh what a mess they should have been mixed. sasuke was ninjutsu, naruto was taijutsu/sage stuff, sakura was medic/should have been genjutsu

Edited by Catra, 31 December 2015 - 12:37 AM.

[Dalton.T.R]

Wait, Kishimoto still has fans? Wow...I'm not sure what to say to that,..

[rocci]

@dalton
Yes, he's.

@catra
As soon as goku reveal as not human(saiyan), human characters became irrelevant aka doesn't have much fight.
Oh and they are side characters and some isn't popular.

The same goes with konoha 11, with the exception of team 10 because shikamaru. They are side/supportive characters so it should be expect that they would never get the same treatment with main character.
Well, even two of the main character get neglect.