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[rocci]

A very nice chapter overall. It was great to see Sakura inspire the troops as well as heal Naruto. I can only hope that in the upcoming chapters Minato will compare Naruto's and Sakura's relationship to his and Kushina's. Some teasing about their relationship from Minato would be a bonus.

If Sasuke enters the battle soon, would this be him being the "hero" coming into the fray at the last moment, like at his match in theChūnin Exams? I hope not, I don't want to be irritated after this uplifting chapter.

Naah I don't mind, because at chunnin exam gara kick his ass, hard.

Come on, I made that just for fun

Since most of all SS/NH fans are in denial for this chapter O_O

One of their statement which bothered me most is "She's just copying Hinata. That whore." O.o

Copying.. Hinata? I think sakura do what she did in pain invansion arc.

[TouKen4Life3g]

how ss fans did see this chapter

I predict next volume cover about team 7 & team minato.

If it keeps this way, sure. I too see it that way.

[Codus N]

1) I'm not mocking a fandom. I made a lighthearted comparison of the speeches between both girls that was not meant to be taken seriously. The point of it being that, while Hinata did provide a speech to Naruto and helped motivate him, she also took some steps back with her comment about how big his hand is. She fell back on Naruto after telling him to rely on his friends.

In comparison, we have Sakura telling everyone that they should not be relying on Naruto. They've misinterpreted his intentions, and continued to rely on him to save them, when they should be fighting to their fullest extent to help. She did not rely on Naruto, and that is the comparison that's being made. Yeah, I cropped Hinata's speech to get that point across, but again, it wasn't meant to be this super serious pairing argument about "how much better Sakura's speech was than Hinata's" in order to make NaruSaku look better. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

2) Your criticisms are ridiculous because you don't just criticize the chapters, or the characters, or the series. You criticize anyone that doesn't agree with you. Not only do you make a big deal out of nothing constantly, you also do everything you can to make other people look bad, and for some reason, you try to direct people about what they should or should not be saying, as if you have some godly right over the rest of us. Enough of that, man. I told you to stop replying to me. If you don't like what I have to say, scroll along.

Thank you.

1. Bolded: is that all what it was?? *sigh* I think we all need to lay off the condescending attitude and sarcasm here (that includes you and me). If you had backed up the comparison with that argument earlier, then I would've understood much better what you were trying to say. If that was your entire point from the beginning, then it wouldn't have killed you to back it up with a comprehensible explanation.

2. I would only do that if people start making a mockery out of the fandoms. I won't bother trying to change people's opinions of any sort, but when people start resorting to mockery and the like, that's when I'm putting my foot down.

I understand but that's how pairing wars go. Can't help it sometimes. But if you're uninterested in pairing wars this stuff should not bother you much. That said it is a valid point to not mock other fandoms because if we were on the receiving end many of us would not act so smug, it is true. I see your point Codus, truly.

THANK YOU. SOMEBODY FINALLY GETS IT!!

Like I said, I don't give a damn what the other fandoms think, but what I give a damn is how people here react towards the other fandoms when they should know better.

[Atheck]

Come on, I made that just for fun

Since most of all SS/NH fans are in denial for this chapter O_O

I suppose some amusement could be derived from their frustration. It's undeniable that many of us are happy to see Sakura again.

One of their statement which bothered me most is "She's just copying Hinata. That whore." O.o

To Hinata and NH fans: I'm sorry, I was more concerned about your utter lack of regard for plot consistency and desire to glorify a minor character to the status of heroine for what is probably the final 5-10% of the manga.

This may sound condescending but the statements some of these people make legitimizes, to some degree at least, this retaliation.

[Inferno180]

Wow that stuff with how SS fans saw the chapter, not really happiest of ways to show it.

I think what was really great about this chapter was how both Sakura and Kakashi told what was honestly true. This chapter if anything belonged to both of them. It was well paced, given their situations. Sakura spoke on herself but for believing in Naruto. Kakashi spoke of his experiences and used what Obito told him long ago against him. Sakura knows what she must do, she said how everyone must work together for Naruto as he sees them all as comrades. Plus the cliffhanger, thats how you end a chapter like this, a lot of developmental dialouge and a major incoming moment, those are good.

Plus the best part about Sakura's moment? I don't even think this was her big moment, she still has more development to come. She got more development she was long overdo for but also has much more to come, she did act heroine like for the first time in a long time and can carry it on from here. Also remember, long as Sasuke is still inresolved, Sakura has more to do between both Naruto and Sasuke, so Sakura still has a ways to go, this was a moment for her but her development, its still far from done.

I think everyone here is honestly happier than the end of last year, we are just getting much more and as for being part of volume 66, its finally good to have Sakura taking an active role more and more. Have not seen her like this since the White Zetsu neji event, glad our Heroine is stepping up again.

I just wonder, next chapter there is a very high potential for some NS-MK parallel to take place. This is literally a set up we would have never imagined. Sakura right there with Naruto was something we never expected! We saw Naruto-Minato interaction coming, but never like this.

Not trying to bash anything or other fandoms, but the MinaKush ships may be arming themselves to torpedo the NH ships.

[Codus N]

To Hinata and NH fans: I'm sorry, I was more concerned about your utter lack of regard for plot consistency and desire to glorify a minor character to the status of heroine for what is probably the final 5-10% of the manga.

This may sound condescending but the statements some of these people make legitimizes, to some degree at least, this retaliation.

Regardless, it's better to ignore those type of comments . At least you have decency to admit being condescending, though. For that, you earn my respect.

[alexander]

You guys shouldn't care that much about the fandom reaction. Remember, Kishimoto aways follow an pattern. First he gives us an naruhina moment, then he later gives us an narusaku moment, then later he does something that neutralized both scenes putting us back into the starting point. Pretty annoying, actually. Anyway, it was still an good chapter, no Hinata glorification, and Sakura does something relevant, I aways liked the Kakashi/Obito arguments, but that Minato scene kind of killed the mood. Seriously Naruto? Aren't you even surprised that your father suddenly shows up at the battlefield?

[redragon88]

Well, it seems that even Sawyer's opinion of Sakura is not great. It's still not as bad a what forneverworld did, but you can see that he gets slightly annoyed by her.

I really don't get these people. They just purposely look for ways to bring down every little thing Sakura does. It really saddens me how low people have gotten.

[StriderC]

Well, it seems that even Sawyer's opinion of Sakura is not great. It's still not as bad a what forneverworld did, but you can see that he gets slightly annoyed by her.

I really don't get these people. They just purposely look for ways to bring down every little thing Sakura does. It really saddens me how low people have gotten.

I don't know what they were expecting. She's a main character. Did they really think Hinata was gonna remain in the forefront and overtake Sakura's position and Sakura was gonna do absolutely nothing when it came to Naruto? They should be happy they got what they did before with 615 and the chain of events afterwards.

What exactly did he say about Sakura's moment? And I wonder if he's shouting CANON like he did before.

[Slextrem]

1. Bolded: is that all what it was?? *sigh* I think we all need to lay off the condescending attitude and sarcasm here (that includes you and me). If you had backed up the comparison with that argument earlier, then I would've understood much better what you were trying to say. If that was your entire point from the beginning, then it wouldn't have killed you to back it up with a comprehensible explanation.

2. I would only do that if people start making a mockery out of the fandoms. I won't bother trying to change people's opinions of any sort, but when people start resorting to mockery and the like, that's when I'm putting my foot down.

"...we all need to lay off the condescending attitude and sarcasm here, (that includes you and me.)"

"...it wouldn't have killed you to back it up with a comprehensible explanation."

You're off to a great start.

I didn't realize that I was going to be harassed by you for multiple pages all because I didn't delve into a point that I felt was made clear with my original post. I felt that I was being clear enough, and to be frank, I was so overjoyed with the chapter that I wasn't in the mood to make a big, thought-out post. I just wanted to express my enjoyment of the chapter with a lighthearted comment. All you have to do is connect the dots and the point that I was making becomes very clear.

You had no right to come at me like that because I wasn't mocking anybody. You are no authority here, so you can take your foot elsewhere. The next time you have an issue with me, or my posts, use the report button and let the actual authority make the judgment.

Now please, for the third time, stop responding to me. I don't want to engage in any further discussion with you.

[rocci]

If it keeps this way, sure. I too see it that way.

Any prediction for next chapter?

[redragon88]

I don't know what they were expecting. She's a main character. Did they really think Hinata was gonna remain in the forefront and overtake Sakura's position and Sakura was gonna do absolutely nothing when it came to Naruto? They should be happy they got what they did before with 615 and the chain of events afterwards.

What exactly did he say about Sakura's moment? And I wonder if he's shouting CANON like he did before.

I don't want to check the video again but there was a mention of how Sakura was finally not thinking about Sasuke for once, saying that the face Sakura makes it's like she's pooping, and minimizing her moment by saying that now everybody gets to talk.

There were some other stuff I think, but I don't want to bother seeing it again. Check it out yourself if you want.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, it seems that even Sawyer's opinion of Sakura is not great. It's still not as bad a what forneverworld did, but you can see that he gets slightly annoyed by her.

I really don't get these people. They just purposely look for ways to bring down every little thing Sakura does. It really saddens me how low people have gotten.

That's ironic, because Hinata felt force while Sakura wasn't because of her past developments and her duty as a medic. Oh well, whatever floats your boat.

Any prediction for next chapter?

I'll be honest, I'm just going to let this one go. I don't want to predict because well, it can go anywhere. The cliffhanger really makes me think it's too good to be true with Minato being the one to rescue Naruto/Sakura (with others). So yeah, I'm just waiting on how the next chapter follow up with this one.

[MangaReader]

Well, it seems that even Sawyer's opinion of Sakura is not great. It's still not as bad a what forneverworld did, but you can see that he gets slightly annoyed by her.

I really don't get these people. They just purposely look for ways to bring down every little thing Sakura does. It really saddens me how low people have gotten.

You know I liked forneverworld's reviews before I found out the harsh way that he was a NaruHina support or at least a Sakura basher :/

Haven't watched a video of his since. Again, not sure why we torture ourselves watching these people and even still, I can't believe there's not one single reviewer who isn't biased towards something (sorry Slex and Strider, I know you guys speak the truth, but I need someone who doesn't care either way what happens). If I could, I'd damn well would review chapters, but I've been pretty bias towards seeing Sakura lately so I'd be a bad choice. On that note though, Sakura hate extends to literally almost every video that she's apart of and that a pretty gleaming issue with the Naruto fan base. I have no clue where this hatred stems from or why it exists. I don't see how people think this is a good thing to hate on a character either, it's misdirected and clearly they don't know much about manga. What I like is how ironic people are who like Rukia (who is basically like Sakura, minus that she does get to fight every so often)but dislike Sakura.

[StriderC]

I don't want to check the video again but there was a mention of how Sakura was finally not thinking about Sasuke for once, saying that the face Sakura makes it's like she's pooping, and minimizing her moment by saying that now everybody gets to talk.

There were some other stuff I think, but I don't want to bother seeing it again. Check it out yourself if you want.

LOL I'm not asking you to check it out again. I just wanted to hear the gist of what he said about Sakura in his review. I'll pass on checking out. I've as well as Slex have dealt with the guy before, and realized he wasn't as neutral as he claimed he was in the past. Given what you've just said, that reaffirms that for sure.

It also seems like the review he gave dampened your mood? Don't let the crappy reviewers drag you down brother if you are in fact being dragged down by their crappy comments.

It's funny that he's actually making fun of her panels instead of looking at the entire message. Wouldn't expect any less from him. Just shows he feeling the burn.

[Derock]

How do I love this chapter?

That speech, Sakura... Preach, girl, preach!! And I bet that during that entire moment, Naruto was thinking like, "Yeah, that's my girl! Getting some after this crap is over!"

Kakashi, so freaking badass. Time for Round 2 with him and Obito!

Bee is back (but still we have this question, WHERE IS SAI?!!!)

And oh kitten... Minato's here. Father son reunion with a potential mentioning of the "future daughter-in law". And he's about a couple of meters in front of him.

Oh, and I noticed some negativity here. Cut it out, please. That's including talking/bashing/making fun of w/e on the rival pairings. We had enough drama llamas going around eating and expanding themselves.

[StriderC]

You know I liked forneverworld's reviews before I found out the harsh way that he was a NaruHina support or at least a Sakura basher :/

Haven't watched a video of his since. Again, not sure why we torture ourselves watching these people and even still, I can't believe there's not one single reviewer who isn't biased towards something (sorry Slex and Strider, I know you guys speak the truth, but I need someone who doesn't care either way what happens). If I could, I'd damn well would review chapters, but I've been pretty bias towards seeing Sakura lately so I'd be a bad choice. On that note though, Sakura hate extends to literally almost every video that she's apart of and that a pretty gleaming issue with the Naruto fan base. I have no clue where this hatred stems from or why it exists. I don't see how people think this is a good thing to hate on a character either, it's misdirected and clearly they don't know much about manga. What I like is how ironic people are who like Rukia (who is basically like Sakura, minus that she does get to fight every so often)but dislike Sakura.

LMAO! I'm DEFINITELY biased, but even so, I try to see the other side instead of just flat out throwing whatever happens with the out of the window. I'm way more neutral than people like this Forneverworld and definitely more than Sawyer. I've seen some neutral people appreciate Sakura's speech and her usefulness here. There was nothing negative about what she did. Doesn't matter if you're a shipper or not.

1. She gave an uplifting speech.
2. She got the alliance back on their feet.
3. She relayed Naruto's message and feelings, and she's determined to heal him as best as she can.

Where's the negative? She wasn't selfish, and she wasn't all about herself here.

How do I love this chapter?

That speech, Sakura... Preach, girl, preach!! And I bet that during that entire moment, Naruto was thinking like, "Yeah, that's my girl! Getting some after this crap is over!"

Kakashi, so freaking badass. Time for Round 2 with him and Obito!

Bee is back (but still we have this question, WHERE IS SAI?!!!)

And oh kitten... Minato's here. Father son reunion with a potential mentioning of the "future daughter-in law". And he's about a couple of meters in front of him.

Oh, and I noticed some negativity here. Cut it out, please. That's including talking/bashing/making fun of w/e on the rival pairings. We had enough drama llamas going around eating and expanding themselves.

Edited by Derock, 15 May 2013 - 05:41 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

You know I liked forneverworld's reviews before I found out the harsh way that he was a NaruHina support or at least a Sakura basher :/

Haven't watched a video of his since. Again, not sure why we torture ourselves watching these people and even still, I can't believe there's not one single reviewer who isn't biased towards something (sorry Slex and Strider, I know you guys speak the truth, but I need someone who doesn't care either way what happens). If I could, I'd damn well would review chapters, but I've been pretty bias towards seeing Sakura lately so I'd be a bad choice. On that note though, Sakura hate extends to literally almost every video that she's apart of and that a pretty gleaming issue with the Naruto fan base. I have no clue where this hatred stems from or why it exists. I don't see how people think this is a good thing to hate on a character either, it's misdirected and clearly they don't know much about manga. What I like is how ironic people are who like Rukia (who is basically like Sakura, minus that she does get to fight every so often)but dislike Sakura.

I just want to see what will happen when Sasuke arrives i dont want to get trolled please kishi.

[James S Cassidy]

Well, for me the manga isn't all about NS. It's all about the characters in it and everything. That's why I don't particularly put NS as the all-important thing in the manga. The manga is. As a whole. Sakura is already decently developed enough (well, about as decent as you could get over the course of 600+ chapters). But Kakashi?? it's so minimal compared to Sakura. All we knew up to ch. 600 was: all his loved ones are dead, he broke an important promise, lives everyday wallowing in his guilt and self-pity. That's it. Only after 600 came out, Kakashi's developments started kicking in full gear.

You seem to use my stuff a lot don't you Codus? "I am a Naruto fan first before I am a NS fan"

Look, I do the same as well, but I still love this chapter and it is fun to come up with strange theories from time to time. It's means we are having fun and much better than the whole forum crying all the time. Like I said to you in the past, these insane theories have come from both ends of the spectrum int hat many expected these huge NH developments or that Kishi was losing his mind. It was because of these moment I took my shipping goggles off for more than half the time now and like you I could say the same thing to them: "You shouldn't expect it to happen. It is merely a possible outcome"

When it comes to this chapter, my Naruto side is happy because it wasn't overblown romantic or Sakura didn't do anything out of character and it wasn't forced. It was exactly how I expected Sakura to behave and act in the battlefield. Not unlike Hinata's scenes in 615. We both can agree that this is true.

My NS fanboy is screaming "OMFG NS moment" and "Imagine what will happen next," it merely me having fun. Imagining how things could play out. No one expects anything. I don't expect anything anymore because I realize Kishi just doesn't want to push for it, but you could imagine things that could have happened and have fun with it. You know, having fun? Like it was in the old days. All I'm saying is, you need to stop taking everyone's word so seriously all the time. We are aware of the possibilities and are aware it is not gonna go the way we want it to. Doesn't mean we can't have fun.

Keep in mind that the people who are having fun don't seem to be as negative when something doesn't happens, but it is the people who expect Sakura to fight are the ones who are mostly over-eager and not regarding the possibilities. I know what to expect and what not to, but I still have fun by saying "Imagine how funny it would be if Minato said Sakura was like Kushina"

that's what the flower is!

No, I mean you missed the joke. It was just a joke to poke fun at similarities.

Pokemon reference for the lose.

@Zac

To be honest, dude. I noticed it to, but it hasn't bothered me because Kishi has done thing a lot worse and for dumber reasons. Again, I know I am beating a dead horse, but after the debacle that was 615 and all that came from that. Everything else is okay with me.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

You seem to use my stuff a lot don't you Codus? "I am a Naruto fan first before I am a NS fan"

Look, I do the same as well, but I still love this chapter and it is fun to come up with strange theories from time to time. It's means we are having fun and much better than the whole forum crying all the time. Like I said to you in the past, these insane theories have come from both ends of the spectrum int hat many expected these huge NH developments or that Kishi was losing his mind. It was because of these moment I took my shipping goggles off for more than half the time now and like you I could say the same thing to them: "You shouldn't expect it to happen. It is merely a possible outcome"

When it comes to this chapter, my Naruto side is happy because it wasn't overblown romantic or Sakura didn't do anything out of character and it wasn't forced. It was exactly how I expected Sakura to behave and act in the battlefield. Not unlike Hinata's scenes in 615. We both can agree that this is true.

My NS fanboy is screaming "OMFG NS moment" and "Imagine what will happen next," it merely me having fun. Imagining how things could play out. No one expects anything. I don't expect anything anymore because I realize Kishi just doesn't want to push for it, but you could imagine things that could have happened and have fun with it. You know, having fun? Like it was in the old days. All I'm saying is, you need to stop taking everyone's word so seriously all the time. We are aware of the possibilities and are aware it is not gonna go the way we want it to. Doesn't mean we can't have fun.

Keep in mind that the people who are having fun don't seem to be as negative when something doesn't happens, but it is the people who expect Sakura to fight are the ones who are mostly over-eager and not regarding the possibilities. I know what to expect and what not to, but I still have fun by saying "Imagine how funny it would be if Minato said Sakura was like Kushina"

I see that sh was going to say something but Naruto got the panel, next chapter she will say something and probably Minato will have a long chat with Naruto.
Most importantly is Sasuke coming i hope we dont get trolled like pairings SS oriented or some kind of fanservice if this doenst happen then NS is pretty much canon and end of pairings wars for me.
Also i feel that we are going to get an answer to 540.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 15 May 2013 - 05:06 PM.