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#301 PhenixElite

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:46 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Feb 3 2013, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*sigh* That's the point, no one is forgetting about Sakura's screentime and development thus far. What I think about it, I think it's lacking all around in general.

I wouldn't have a problem with Sakura being a little more absent in the war if Kishi developed her more. Of course I still have hopes Kishi is going to do something amazing with her and there's the high possibility she will. But when we have to speculate what she can do, but then retract those possibilities because they seem too far fetched, then there's a problem.

Like with Naruto (Sasuke, and all other powerful characters), I want to be able to think Sakura can be on that level too with some high leveled technique of her own that she learned from Tsunade or invented on her own. Problem is, in the past, Kishi hasn't actually built up anything for her. Sure, he did way back when with hints of being great at genjutsu or surpassing Tsunade, yada yada, but we haven't SEEN that. Point to me a chapter where we see her get a powerup like Naruto, Sasuke, or even Kakashi? we DON'T.

We will probably never agree because you already stated that you don't feel the need for Sakura to be stronger or have any important battles or be relevant for anything other than romance, so I don't know why you argue with people who have a completely different point of view of where they feel Sakura's character should go.

I dont think that everyone feels like sakura only gets to shine through fighting. Have you seen sakura develope that much through fighting till now? I havent so why should this change now?

Sakuras character developes through naruto and i habe no problem if this keeps up till the end. I also dont see a problem if she gets a few fights i future but i dont think its needed.

I havent seen people whinning about sakura since the summit arc and suddenly everyone starts because kishi is not showing her that often during war arc. A lot of people are not yelling around because sakura gets no fights lately. They are yelling because she gets no screentime. Thats what i argue about since im sure shes going to get enough of it in future.

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Im pretty sure sakura became youre favourite character through her fight with sasori right?
She became one of my favourites through her development with naruto over the entire manga, not through her fights.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:18 PM

No, Sakura did not become my favorite character during her fight, it just made me feel like she could finally take care of herself and she could fight Akatsuki level members and live. A HUGE development for her compared to her part 1 self. I was proud of her then, but at that point I don't believe she was my favorite character.

No one complained about her Summit action because she was actually doing something, even if she failed. She helped advanced the plot as a main character should, she didn't sit around on the sideliines waiting for Naruto or Sasuke to make a move.

Sakura did help support the plot early in this war arc (which is probably only hours ago in the Narutoverse), and that's fine as well. I just question why is Sakura, super strength able to blow enemies away with just her fist, acting as a supporting character for fodder nin for the majority of this arc? Why do I feel like I'm only getting my hopes up for her to do something amazing against the enemy?

Sakura is not all about her romance for me, she's about love, being strong, being independent, and caring for her friends. So far, we've seen everything but her being 'strong' lately, and by that I mean shining above the rest of the side characters. At this point, she is a side character. (Not true though, as she will always be the heroine)

Sakura is the heroine, Kishi needs to write her like one. If the heros are fighting machines, the heroines should be one on occasion too. She doesn't need to have fight after fight after fight like Naruto, but at the very least, can't we see her trying to improve herself further medic nin wise or fighting wise? We've seen Sasuke get power up after power up for no reason whatsoever, but we haven't seen Sakura develop anything at all after her fight with Sasori.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Feb 3 2013, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sakura is the heroine, Kishi needs to write her like one. If the heros are fighting machines, the heroines should be one on occasion too. She doesn't need to have fight after fight after fight like Naruto, but at the very least, can't we see her trying to improve herself further medic nin wise or fighting wise? We've seen Sasuke get power up after power up for no reason whatsoever, but we haven't seen Sakura develop anything at all after her fight with Sasori.


This so much. You pretty much summed up what I wanted to say. Take a look at Wendy from FT, who is a good example for this. She even outright states Tsunade's rule (in her own wording). And yet, why is there such a wide difference of development between her and Sakura?? it's like the freakin' Grand Canyon for the love of God!! they're both medics with some insecurities, and yet Wendy is much more completely developed. I don't understand how could Kishi neglect her so much. The question here is, if Mashima can develop a character with a similar background and similar skill sets well, then why can't Kishi.

@sushi: Honestly, I'd have no problem with people being optimistic about Sakura if only they don't go too far. How far, you ask?? to the point where their speculations turn into something they expect not hope. There's a wide difference there.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 03:36 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Feb 3 2013, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, Sakura did not become my favorite character during her fight, it just made me feel like she could finally take care of herself and she could fight Akatsuki level members and live. A HUGE development for her compared to her part 1 self. I was proud of her then, but at that point I don't believe she was my favorite character.

No one complained about her Summit action because she was actually doing something, even if she failed. She helped advanced the plot as a main character should, she didn't sit around on the sideliines waiting for Naruto or Sasuke to make a move.

Sakura did help support the plot early in this war arc (which is probably only hours ago in the Narutoverse), and that's fine as well. I just question why is Sakura, super strength able to blow enemies away with just her fist, acting as a supporting character for fodder nin for the majority of this arc? Why do I feel like I'm only getting my hopes up for her to do something amazing against the enemy?

Sakura is not all about her romance for me, she's about love, being strong, being independent, and caring for her friends. So far, we've seen everything but her being 'strong' lately, and by that I mean shining above the rest of the side characters. At this point, she is a side character. (Not true though, as she will always be the heroine)

Sakura is the heroine, Kishi needs to write her like one. If the heros are fighting machines, the heroines should be one on occasion too. She doesn't need to have fight after fight after fight like Naruto, but at the very least, can't we see her trying to improve herself further medic nin wise or fighting wise? We've seen Sasuke get power up after power up for no reason whatsoever, but we haven't seen Sakura develop anything at all after her fight with Sasori.

See during the summit arc she was also not fighting and people have no problem with it. She can also be a good character without fighting. Not every mangaka makes a heroine that is supposed to fight, she was by narutos side the whole manga and got a lot of development through it.

Sakura doenst need to do something amazing against the enemy, she still got her medical skills and maybe she saves a life of an important person (maybe naruto), just remember how she saved kankuro. Of course it could very well happen that she fights the enemy.
We can for sure say that shes going to have an imoprtant role in future, at least during the battle between naruto and sasuke, so it sucks to hear all the complaints that sakura is no heroine anymore and kishi forgets her.

I personally think after some time it will be the same as it was before the whole war arc. Sakura will be by narutos side again and keep having her development. So just let kishi develope his sidecharacters till that point.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:05 PM

See, the problem here is it doesn't go that way. This is a shonen action manga. It's meant to be geared towards boys, not females. Males have a different viewpoint regarding characters in a shonen manga. It's not just how the heroine is a support for the main character, but also how she can be equal to the main character not just in character but strength as well. What makes a good heroine in an action series like this is how she can show herself to be equal to the hero in all aspects.

I wouldn't have minded if she was like Winry from FMA if Kishimoto had invested more time in her. But that's not the case. What is happening is pure ignorance of her character, plain and simple.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:07 PM

You're missing the point.

Everyone does not want her to be ALWAYS fighting and ALWAYS defeating enemies, but since she is a main character, we would like to see her do that more often. The last time she was in a real fight was when? I can't even recall. No, she should not be all romance and she should not be all fighting. The summit arc was not a problem because Sakura was DOING something, that is the point. She was moving the plot, like I said. She was heavily involve and was important because of course, she's a main character.

Kishi has not balanced Sakura enough for people to be ok with others taking the spot light in her place. No one complains when InoShikaCho takes over for a while (or at least I don't) because we're pretty much assured we will return to Naruto and see development on his side (with his strength AND possibly romance). Can we say the same for Sakura? No. When we switch back to Sakura, rarely can we expect her to learn a new move or follow up on Kishi owns hinting development that she'll be excellent at genjutsu or stronger than Tsunade. The most we expect is her having a romantic moment with Naruto.

I personally expect her to attack the Juubi and send him flying, but that makes me feel like I"m getting my own hopes up. Why? Because Kishi has not made me believe strongly enough that he'll give her such a role. Yes, Kishi has convinced me that NS is going to happen in the end, but that's not all I want for Sakura. I don't want her to only be about romance, I don't like characters like that obviously. (for example, Hinata)

In this world full of ninja, it is important to be strong and grow stronger as time goes by. Yes, Sakura was amazing during the Gaara rescue arc, but what has she done lately? I guess taking down a Zetsu was important and it's nice to confirm her intelligence, but it's nothing new. Sakura hasn't done anything new in 300 chapters. Yes, has developed deeper feelings for Naruto and has grown to understand him better, but is that it? What happened to everything else about her character? Kishi has already done something similar with Hinata, dropping everything else about her (wanting to make her father proud and lead her clan strongly), leaving her only with her obsession with Naruto and his well being.

I don't want Sakura to suffer the same fate, this war is the Sakura's chance not to fall to such a level, I hope Kishi goes the right way with this and give her character what she deserves. We've seen Naruto stand for something more than just his romantic interest, why can't Kishi do the same with his female characters?

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:37 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Feb 3 2013, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're missing the point.

Everyone does not want her to be ALWAYS fighting and ALWAYS defeating enemies, but since she is a main character, we would like to see her do that more often. The last time she was in a real fight was when? I can't even recall. No, she should not be all romance and she should not be all fighting. The summit arc was not a problem because Sakura was DOING something, that is the point. She was moving the plot, like I said. She was heavily involve and was important because of course, she's a main character.

Kishi has not balanced Sakura enough for people to be ok with others taking the spot light in her place. No one complains when InoShikaCho takes over for a while (or at least I don't) because we're pretty much assured we will return to Naruto and see development on his side (with his strength AND possibly romance). Can we say the same for Sakura? No. When we switch back to Sakura, rarely can we expect her to learn a new move or follow up on Kishi owns hinting development that she'll be excellent at genjutsu or stronger than Tsunade. The most we expect is her having a romantic moment with Naruto.

I personally expect her to attack the Juubi and send him flying, but that makes me feel like I"m getting my own hopes up. Why? Because Kishi has not made me believe strongly enough that he'll give her such a role. Yes, Kishi has convinced me that NS is going to happen in the end, but that's not all I want for Sakura. I don't want her to only be about romance, I don't like characters like that obviously. (for example, Hinata)

In this world full of ninja, it is important to be strong and grow stronger as time goes by. Yes, Sakura was amazing during the Gaara rescue arc, but what has she done lately? I guess taking down a Zetsu was important and it's nice to confirm her intelligence, but it's nothing new. Sakura hasn't done anything new in 300 chapters. Yes, has developed deeper feelings for Naruto and has grown to understand him better, but is that it? What happened to everything else about her character? Kishi has already done something similar with Hinata, dropping everything else about her (wanting to make her father proud and lead her clan strongly), leaving her only with her obsession with Naruto and his well being.

I don't want Sakura to suffer the same fate, this war is the Sakura's chance not to fall to such a level, I hope Kishi goes the right way with this and give her character what she deserves. We've seen Naruto stand for something more than just his romantic interest, why can't Kishi do the same with his female characters?

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 05:05 PM

Agree with Kirabook.

She shouldn't be just about romance, even that she moves forward the plot. We should see her do something...new XD
She isn't just about romance. But that, romance shouldn't be just about Sakura for too long.

The thing is that I expect, yes I expect, that Sakura will do something in this battle. Maybe it won't be a big role. But why I expect ? here's why:
Sakura is the heroine, and she can't do nothing on this battle. That's something heroines don't do. Plus, like I said before, maybe she won't do a major turn of events in the battle, but she will do something. As a main character, Kishi must make her do something, or it will result bad for his heroine and for him as a writer.
Normally, I expect a big role from other heroes and heroines in other manga, but not in this one, which is why I'm expecting that she'll do something that is maybe not major in this fight.

If Kishi hasn't make her do anything in this battle, then for me, he'll be not far to be a bad writer. Every reader expects his heroine to do something in such an important battle.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:24 PM

sakura better hurry because we're running out of villains

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:38 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Feb 3 2013, 05:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Point is that people like to forget sakuras screentime and development throughout the whole manga. Just because kishi is using the war arc to focus a bit more on the alliance and other sidecharacters doenst mean hes forgetting her. I thought the colour spread showed that but i guess people also seem to forget that.


Yeah... No. I'm one of the complainers and I'm well aware of what Sakura gets. How could anyone forget a recent spread that we've just gotten? Not everyone's gonna be satisfied with the lack of Sakura who's supposedly a heroine. How little she's been involved in a war so far. She's supposedly a main character and look at how Kishi does her. It's obvious he's not forgetting but at the same time, people are extremely tired of waiting. This also isn't the only time Sakura fans have complained at how she's been handled either...

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:09 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Feb 3 2013, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah... No. I'm one of the complainers and I'm well aware of what Sakura gets. How could anyone forget a recent spread that we've just gotten? Not everyone's gonna be satisfied with the lack of Sakura who's supposedly a heroine. How little she's been involved in a war so far. She's supposedly a main character and look at how Kishi does her. It's obvious he's not forgetting but at the same time, people are extremely tired of waiting. This also isn't the only time Sakura fans have complained at how she's been handled either...

Yeah yeah, i know you all wanted sakura to have some special abilities and fighting and beeing equal to naruto and sasuke but if you look back you realize that this is not what kishi wanted to make out of her character. You guys should live with that instead of complaining the whole time. There are also people who see no problem with her character till now, im one of them. Sure she could have had more screentime in the war arc but im confident that shes going to get her time.

Some people just get the wrong picture of sakura in my opinion.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:27 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Feb 3 2013, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah yeah, i know you all wanted sakura to have some special abilities and fighting and beeing equal to naruto and sasuke but if you look back you realize that this is not what kishi wanted to make out of her character. You guys should live with that instead of complaining the whole time. There are also people who see no problem with her character till now, im one of them. Sure she could have had more screentime in the war arc but im confident that shes going to get her time.

Some people just get the wrong picture of sakura in my opinion.


Like others have pointed out, Sakura is more than a romantic figure for Naruto or Sasuke or whatever. I don't have the wrong picture of Sakura at all. Unlike some people, Sakura has always been one of my favorite characters since the beginning. In the beginning, she WANTED to get stronger. In the beginning, she WANTED to fight with her comrades. She showed bravery in the Forest of Death. She was inspired by Naruto's strength as well. Why build her up in such a way to only have her end up being sidelined? It makes absolutely NO sense to me. It's not just about special abilities and being on equal terms with Naruto and Sasuke. It's about being a freakin heroine, and being used properly. I'm not expecting her to fight every single chance she gets, but I'm also not expecting her to be on the sidelines CONSTANTLY while being saved repeatedly to make others looks legit. She's shown us that she has what it takes to be an amazing ninja. She's been PRAISED, but it's like Kishi halted that for no apparent reason. I want Sakura to be more than a damsel, and more than a healer. She CAN be more than that, and as a fan, I want to see her at her best.

IMHO, she's way more than what you make of her. It's not that some people get the wrong picture because we're seeing the same Sakura you and others see. It's just some of us know honestly want Kishi to do right by her as a heroine. She's no side character at all. If you're gonna brand her a heroine, then make her a heroine. Not some prize or emotional support for the main character... rolleyes.gif

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:48 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Feb 3 2013, 11:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like others have pointed out, Sakura is than a romantic figure for Naruto or Sasuke or whatever. I don't have the wrong picture of Sakura at all. Unlike some people, Sakura has always been one of my favorite characters since the beginning. In the beginning, she WANTED to get stronger. In the beginning, she WANTED to fight with her comrades. She showed bravery in the Forest of Death. She was inspired by Naruto's strength as well. Why build her up in such a way to only have her end up being sidelined? It makes absolutely NO sense to me. It's not just about special abilities and being on equal terms with Naruto and Sasuke. It's about being a freakin heroine, and being used properly. I'm not expecting her to fight every single chance she gets, but I'm also not expecting her to be on the sidelines CONSTANTLY while being saved repeatedly to make others looks legit. She's shown us that she has what it takes to be an amazing ninja. She's been PRAISED, but it's like Kishi halted that for no apparent reason. I want Sakura to be more than a damsel, and more than a healer. She CAN be more than that, and as a fan, I want to see her at her best.

IMHO, she's way more than what you make of her. It's not that some people get the wrong picture because we're seeing the same Sakura you and others see. It's just some of us know honestly want Kishi to do right by her as a heroine. She's no side character at all. If you're gonna brand her a heroine, then make her a heroine. Not some prize or emotional support for the main character... rolleyes.gif

Why is she on the sideline? Just because of one arc? She also wasnt on the sideline till the war arc and suddenly everybody believes that shes going to stay there just because she had no big role in the war till now.
Also, she could be more then i make out of her, but she isnt. What is the bad thing for her beeing the emotional support for naruto? Thats also a type of heroine, her character just wasnt made to be a fighter.
Sakura is the kind of heroine that grows through the main protoganist, he changes her views and she is by his side most of the time.

Sakura is one of my favourite characters too, but i like how she was shown till now. I like her supportive role more, she gained medical skill and was shown to shine through this skills. I really dont know what you wanted to see from her durign part two if its not fighting, because i think she got everything she needed.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:19 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Feb 3 2013, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why is she on the sideline? Just because of one arc? She also wasnt on the sideline till the war arc and suddenly everybody believes that shes going to stay there just because she had no big role in the war till now.
Also, she could be more then i make out of her, but she isnt. What is the bad thing for her beeing the emotional support for naruto? Thats also a type of heroine, her character just wasnt made to be a fighter.
Sakura is the kind of heroine that grows through the main protoganist, he changes her views and she is by his side most of the time.

Sakura is one of my favourite characters too, but i like how she was shown till now. I like her supportive role more, she gained medical skill and was shown to shine through this skills. I really dont know what you wanted to see from her durign part two if its not fighting, because i think she got everything she needed.


This isn't the first time I've complained about her character, and it's not just ONE arc. It's been a constant matter. Of course, you wouldn't know that since I'm new here, but it definitely didn't take one arc before I started thinking she was going to be sidelined. And a lot of times, she wasn't sidelined because she couldn't fight. It was because of something ridiculous, and convenient for a particular moment, and then BOOM, she's down. I didn't mind it in Part 1 because it was evident she wasn't really strong at all, but even then, she gave it her all. She was acknowledged by her rival. Part 2. One fight with Sasori and we're shown her capabilities. She's no sidelined individual at all, and given her skills, and the fact that her teacher was Tsunade, why would she stay there. She doesn't follow the rules of a medical ninja completely given she's risked her life for Chiyo, she was on the front lines when they went to fight Kabuto and Orochimaru. She tried to strike Sasuke, and so on, but Kishi NEVER lets her fall through on anything really it seems. She's knocked backwards and then afterwards, she's on the sideline so I don't think she should on the sidelines at all waiting for Naruto to come in and give her a smooch for being such a great housewife. She's way more than that as I've said, and she's shown to be more than that in the past. Now it's like some people treat her as just a prize for Naruto.

There's absolutely something wrong when you're actively showing a side character outdoing your main... As for the bolded, she doesn't just have medical ninjutsu. She has super strength as well, and even with that, he pushes her back because of the fact that it's practically a one hit KO. Why give her something she's not using often? You may be okay with her just being Naruto's personal aid or whatever but I'm obviously not. While i enjoy those moments, I'm not for her just catering to him. She'd then look like Hinata... rolleyes.gif

We're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this particular matter my friend.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:20 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Feb 3 2013, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why is she on the sideline? Just because of one arc? She also wasnt on the sideline till the war arc and suddenly everybody believes that shes going to stay there just because she had no big role in the war till now.
Also, she could be more then i make out of her, but she isnt. What is the bad thing for her beeing the emotional support for naruto? Thats also a type of heroine, her character just wasnt made to be a fighter.
Sakura is the kind of heroine that grows through the main protoganist, he changes her views and she is by his side most of the time.

Sakura is one of my favourite characters too, but i like how she was shown till now. I like her supportive role more, she gained medical skill and was shown to shine through this skills. I really dont know what you wanted to see from her durign part two if its not fighting, because i think she got everything she needed.


What your pointing out is a good thing and it may be enough for you, but for some fans we want more, I for one really want her to shine she doesn't have to shine by fighting she could shine by supporting the main character in his time of need much like hinata already did.

It also isnt just the war arc, she has been pretty neglected even before then and really when fans start questioning one of their favorite characters than something is definitely not right, you think she has done enough I think she still needs to do something more, I love sakura she is my favorite female character and the last thing I want is for her to be out shined by a side character.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:34 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Feb 4 2013, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This isn't the first time I've complained about her character, and it's not just ONE arc. It's been a constant matter. Of course, you wouldn't know that since I'm new here, but it definitely didn't take one arc before I started thinking she was going to be sidelined. And a lot of times, she wasn't sidelined because she couldn't fight. It was because of something ridiculous, and convenient for a particular moment, and then BOOM, she's down. I didn't mind it in Part 1 because it was evident she wasn't really strong at all, but even then, she gave it her all. She was acknowledged by her rival. Part 2. One fight with Sasori and we're shown her capabilities. She's no sidelined individual at all, and given her skills, and the fact that her teacher was Tsunade, why would she stay there. She doesn't follow the rules of a medical ninja completely given she's risked her life for Chiyo, she was on the front lines when they went to fight Kabuto and Orochimaru. She tried to strike Sasuke, and so on, but Kishi NEVER lets her fall through on anything really it seems. She's knocked backwards and then afterwards, she's on the sideline so I don't think she should on the sidelines at all waiting for Naruto to come in and give her a smooch for being such a great housewife. She's way more than that as I've said, and she's shown to be more than that in the past. Now it's like some people treat her as just a prize for Naruto.

There's absolutely something wrong when you're actively showing a side character outdoing your main... As for the bolded, she doesn't just have medical ninjutsu. She has super strength as well, and even with that, he pushes her back because of the fact that it's practically a one hit KO. Why give her something she's not using often? You may be okay with her just being Naruto's personal aid or whatever but I'm obviously not. While i enjoy those moments, I'm not for her just catering to him. She'd then look like Hinata... rolleyes.gif

We're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this particular matter my friend.

Well, so be it then.

@zatheko: im pretty sure that shes going to shine through supporting naruto, just because hinata also did thus doesnt mean she cant do it better or is outshined by her. Everyone is saying shes not doing enough, but who knows the manga has still a lot time to the end so there is still alot to come.

The single moment from hinata is also not outshining all the moments from sakura. Till now it seems like kishi is planing something for her. I never felt like kishi negleted sakura before the war arc, she always got her screentime and important development.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:46 AM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Feb 3 2013, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's absolutely something wrong when you're actively showing a side character outdoing your main...


Makes me wonder what people care about more....Sakura getting attention or the fact that Hinata got it in 615-616?

Slextrem, you said that the manga is supposed to be read volume by volume, not chapter by chapter. I wonder if this is the cause of all the grief combined with the "manga time" mentioned. I kind of agree with both sides on this one. We have gotten Sakura moments and such, but we wanted something better and more potent, but I also feel that we still have more Sakura moments at times when Hinata wasn't even mentioned.

So I am on the fence with this one.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 04 February 2013 - 12:46 AM.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:57 AM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Feb 3 2013, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Makes me wonder what people care about more....Sakura getting attention or the fact that Hinata got it in 615-616?

Slextrem, you said that the manga is supposed to be read volume by volume, not chapter by chapter. I wonder if this is the cause of all the grief combined with the "manga time" mentioned. I kind of agree with both sides on this one. We have gotten Sakura moments and such, but we wanted something better and more potent, but I also feel that we still have more Sakura moments at times when Hinata wasn't even mentioned.

So I am on the fence with this one.


I care more about her getting attention to be quite honest.

For me personally, it's more like this.

In Part 1, we're shown all of this potential but it's not played upon. We're shown she's surprisingly a genjutsu type and she has amazing chakra control to the point where learning for her comes easy. She's also very smart. This is great stuff to work from. We're then shown that she wants to get stronger but she lacks the guidance that Naruto and Sasuke have. Okay, that's legit. Part 2 comes, and she's made TREMENDOUS growth. She's able to heal and be more useful to her comrades, but she's also gained taijutsu skills, and super strength. Sweeettt! Now we're making progress with her character. Now she'll be more active in battles. Sasori fight, and the healing of Kankurou. Wow! She literally blew me away with how much she was involved with what was going on. She was taking a step in the right direction and showing her worth even more, but then it sort of just stops. Sure, we get panel time with her, and some great NS development but it's not much PERSONAL development going on IMO, or not enough. I love the interaction she has with Naruto, but at this point, I want more action and more personal development. It's like her desires have just died down from what they were before. I don't know if anyone will agree with this bit but I certainly feel this way.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:07 AM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Feb 4 2013, 01:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I care more about her getting attention to be quite honest.

For me personally, it's more like this.

In Part 1, we're shown all of this potential but it's not played upon. We're shown she's surprisingly a genjutsu type and she has amazing chakra control to the point where learning for her comes easy. She's also very smart. This is great stuff to work from. We're then shown that she wants to get stronger but she lacks the guidance that Naruto and Sasuke have. Okay, that's legit. Part 2 comes, and she's made TREMENDOUS growth. She's able to heal and be more useful to her comrades, but she's also gained taijutsu skills, and super strength. Sweeettt! Now we're making progress with her character. Now she'll be more active in battles. Sasori fight, and the healing of Kankurou. Wow! She literally blew me away with how much she was involved with what was going on. She was taking a step in the right direction and showing her worth even more, but then it sort of just stops. Sure, we get panel time with her, and some great NS development but it's not much PERSONAL development going on IMO, or not enough. I love the interaction she has with Naruto, but at this point, I want more action and more personal development. It's like her desires have just died down from what they were before. I don't know if anyone will agree with this bit but I certainly feel this way.

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It's like Sakura's development has been put into hirbernation. tongue.gif

It freezed out after the Sasori fight. She got panels here and there..mostly about her growing feelings for Naruto, but nothing on her own. I want her to be an individual and indipendent character, that can stand on her own two feet without being linked to Naruto.

Even if she gets an epic comeback, those years without Sakura will never be forgotten. She doesn't need to be a monster-machine on equal grounds with Naruto and Sasuke. I've seen animes like FMA and Inuyasha where the main female is not a powerhouse. The reason I accept them is because they have relevance to the plot, they move the story forward. Sakura can not do that when she stays still, or is just not present.

Edited by sushi., 04 February 2013 - 01:07 AM.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:08 AM

I dont care about Hinata getting attetion i would care about her development if it's show development that does not imply Naruto-kun adn her showing that there are other characters that are important to her showing that her life is not just Naruto and making her a better character with dreams that does not resume to "be with Naruto".
then i would be concerned because Kishi would starting to develop Hinata as a character like Sakura and would make her pair to pair with Sakura.




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