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#301 Anguyen92

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 02:42 PM

QUOTE (Roy menethil @ Oct 10 2011, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really dont understand the thing about Dan and Nawaki that everyone speaking of... confused.gif can someone explain it to me please?


QUOTE (Fyuria'sLeo @ Oct 10 2011, 05:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dan was Tsunade's Boyfriend/fiance I think, he had a dream like Naruto's to become Hokage but died in Tsunade's hands on a mission. Nawaki is Tsunade's younger brother he acted just like Naruto and had the same dream as Dan and Naruto to become Hokage. In a way that's why Tsunade's so protective of Naruto, do to Nawaki and Dan dieing and not being able to fulfill there dreams.


^^ Yep, pretty much this, and that reason is also probably the key reason why Tsunade decided to become Hokage in the first place. Hopefully, she'll be around and alive where she can rightfully pass the torch to Naruto and thus be satisfied on keeping her close ones' dreams alive.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 03:09 PM

IF the war doesn't kill her then sure biggrin.gif

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 07:02 PM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Oct 10 2011, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IF the war doesn't kill her then sure biggrin.gif

NO! how dare you bring up such language! mad.gif

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku1 @ Oct 10 2011, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NO! how dare you bring up such language! mad.gif



What language?

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 09:12 PM

QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Oct 10 2011, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What language?

The one that says Tsunade might die. happy.gif

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 09:23 PM

Woowww. It was just a joke. 'Sides, it's possible. It's war. Of course, Kishimoto hands out Plot Armor that could stop a nuclear bomb in Naruto, so it's also possible she might survive.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 11:26 PM

QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Oct 9 2011, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know what'll happen! This is my speculation:

Kishimoto will show us what happens next chapter!

Lookin' forward to it.

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No reason to be a cynic dude. If you don't like chapter predictions, no one's forcing you to make them.

Anyways, I finally got around to reading the MangaStream translation. Like usual, most of dialogue was slightly different than MR's (I'm not sure how many people only read MangaStream, but I read Mangareader's translation first), but there were a few notable differences that made me think a little.

The big one I noticed was part of Shikamaru and Dan's conversation, where Shikamaru was talking about Naruto's dream of becoming Hokage.

MR: He's my classmate Naruto, he's an idiot that's been blabbering about becoming Hokage since he was little....But now...I'm really starting to think that maybe he'll actually make it. Tsunade-sama made a bet on him.

MS: ...But ever since he was a kid, he's had this one dream of becoming Hokage...and now he's still that same stupid Naruto....But right now...I don't know if he seriously thinks that will still happen or not...But Tsunade-sama is betting everything on him.

So the lines are similar, but part of the MangaSteam version surprised me a little. In the first translation, Shikamaru seems to be stating his confidence in Naruto and him achieving his ambitions. In the MS translation though, Shikamaru's statement has nothing to do with him having faith in Naruto. Rather, it seems like he's commenting on Naruto's own state-of-mind, as if his Hokage proclamations are only for show right now. This could be a big deal, if the MS translation is the accurate one, since it might play into Naruto's speech towards Sasuke about them both dying. That's how I took it anyway.

The other notable difference I saw was Kiba's comment at the end of the chapter.

MR: He smells...differently than usual...

MS: This smell...it's different than he's ever smelled before...

Like the first one, this could just be a translation error, but the line gives off a slightly different vibe than Mangareader's translation. Not a big difference, but I think it holds a little more weight in light of the Naruto=Zetsu theory that was floating around, since I feel like, even in Chakra mode, Naruto should still have somewhat of a familiar scent to Kiba.

Anyways, I don't know Japanese, so I have no idea which version is the more accurate one for this chapter, but I thought I'd bring up the subject. Feel free to analyze, comment, mock, ignore, ect.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 11:34 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku1 @ Oct 10 2011, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NO! how dare you bring up such language! mad.gif


What? mellow.gif NOT trying to break your heart but important characters HAVE died, it's a fact. I don't want it to happen any more than you do, just throwing it out there that it MAY happen that's what war is; kill your enemies and lose your friends and loved ones.


QUOTE (NaruSaku1 @ Oct 11 2011, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you saying Sakura-chan might die!? blowup.gif


WOULD THERE BE NS IF SHE DID? dry.gif DID I say she might die? mellow.gif If Sakura died It would only Please haters and NH fans. What gain would there be for the general plot? Naruto would be a heart broken mess losing his best friend and having his love killed blowup.gif And she's the heroine; the main characters usually live

Edited by Phantom_999, 11 October 2011 - 01:06 AM.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 12:49 AM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Oct 10 2011, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What? mellow.gif NOT trying to break your heart but important characters HAVE died, it's a fact. I don't want it to happen any more than you do, just throwing it out there that it MAY happen that's what war is; kill your enemies and lose your friends and loved ones.

Are you saying Sakura-chan might die!? blowup.gif

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 01:14 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku1 @ Oct 11 2011, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you saying Sakura-chan might die!? blowup.gif

I really hope Sakura doesn't die. If she comes close to death, ill be fine with that, but to completely kill her off will be a huge disappointment for me. She's such a hot great character, I think she's underrated too. So much people give her crap, she's terrific. Plus she's the heroine. laugh.gif
 
 
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 01:31 AM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Oct 11 2011, 01:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really hope Sakura doesn't die. If she comes close to death, ill be fine with that, but to completely kill her off will be a huge disappointment for me. She's such a hot great character, I think she's underrated too. So much people give her crap, she's terrific. Plus she's the heroine. laugh.gif

Yeah, I'm sure someone like Sai, Yamato, Hinata, Kakashi, etc... is going to die though! dry.gif

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 01:33 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku1 @ Oct 11 2011, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I'm sure someone like Sai, Yamato, Hinata, Kakashi, etc... is going to die though! dry.gif


Or maybe no one can die and everyone will live happily ever after. biggrin.gif
 
 
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 01:40 AM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Oct 10 2011, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or maybe no one can die and everyone will live happily ever after. biggrin.gif


Kishi's terrible like that. Like I said, he gives characters plot armor that can stop a nuke. See Pein's invasion of Konoha when no one dies. Even when he nuked the village.

I can tolerate it on this war because the main combatants on the enemy side are cloned bipedal, talking plants that are about as strong as bipedal, talking plants.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 01:45 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku1 @ Oct 10 2011, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you saying Sakura-chan might die!? blowup.gif


She's not going to die she's the heroine and one of the main characters of the manga, also Kishi is fond of her so its impossible he's going to have her killed. Besides if he didn't kill a secondary character like Hinata he won't kill her.
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 02:09 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Oct 10 2011, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She's not going to die she's the heroine and one of the main characters of the manga, also Kishi is fond of her so its impossible he's going to have her killed. Besides if he didn't kill a secondary character like Hinata he won't kill her.


Don't forget Kakashi, or Shizune, or the victims of Pein's Shinra Tensei during Pein's Invasion. All survived. XD

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 02:23 AM

QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Oct 11 2011, 08:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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No reason to be a cynic dude. If you don't like chapter predictions, no one's forcing you to make them.

Anyways, I finally got around to reading the MangaStream translation. Like usual, most of dialogue was slightly different than MR's (I'm not sure how many people only read MangaStream, but I read Mangareader's translation first), but there were a few notable differences that made me think a little.

The big one I noticed was part of Shikamaru and Dan's conversation, where Shikamaru was talking about Naruto's dream of becoming Hokage.

MR: He's my classmate Naruto, he's an idiot that's been blabbering about becoming Hokage since he was little....But now...I'm really starting to think that maybe he'll actually make it. Tsunade-sama made a bet on him.

MS: ...But ever since he was a kid, he's had this one dream of becoming Hokage...and now he's still that same stupid Naruto....But right now...I don't know if he seriously thinks that will still happen or not...But Tsunade-sama is betting everything on him.

So the lines are similar, but part of the MangaSteam version surprised me a little. In the first translation, Shikamaru seems to be stating his confidence in Naruto and him achieving his ambitions. In the MS translation though, Shikamaru's statement has nothing to do with him having faith in Naruto. Rather, it seems like he's commenting on Naruto's own state-of-mind, as if his Hokage proclamations are only for show right now. This could be a big deal, if the MS translation is the accurate one, since it might play into Naruto's speech towards Sasuke about them both dying. That's how I took it anyway.

The other notable difference I saw was Kiba's comment at the end of the chapter.

MR: He smells...differently than usual...

MS: This smell...it's different than he's ever smelled before...

Like the first one, this could just be a translation error, but the line gives off a slightly different vibe than Mangareader's translation. Not a big difference, but I think it holds a little more weight in light of the Naruto=Zetsu theory that was floating around, since I feel like, even in Chakra mode, Naruto should still have somewhat of a familiar scent to Kiba.

Anyways, I don't know Japanese, so I have no idea which version is the more accurate one for this chapter, but I thought I'd bring up the subject. Feel free to analyze, comment, mock, ignore, ect.

Do you have the raw version?
I'm Japanese so I may be able to clear that up.
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 02:59 AM

QUOTE (narunarunaru @ Oct 10 2011, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you have the raw version?
I'm Japanese so I may be able to clear that up.

There might be a better quality raw version out there, but here's the version that was posted on Narutoverse. I guess I'm mostly curious about Shikamaru's line at the bottom, since there was quite a difference between the two translations.
Ch. 558, pg. 12 --Click here to view--
If you can't really see it, here's the link to manga viewer on Narutoverse.

Also, you're Japanese? That's great, it's nice having an outside (or inside, LOL) perspective on this sort of thing. happy.gif

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 03:16 AM

QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Oct 10 2011, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kishi's terrible like that. Like I said, he gives characters plot armor that can stop a nuke. See Pein's invasion of Konoha when no one dies. Even when he nuked the village.

I don't consider it terrible like you do, largely because the skill of raising the dead is a big part of why Pein was so formidable for 75 chapters. Helps to see the bad guys use the Dragon Balls (so to speak) multiple times, before the good guys used it once.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 03:18 AM

QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Oct 11 2011, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There might be a better quality raw version out there, but here's the version that was posted on Narutoverse. I guess I'm mostly curious about Shikamaru's line at the bottom, since there was quite a difference between the two translations.
Ch. 558, pg. 12 --Click here to view--
If you can't really see it, here's the link to manga viewer on Narutoverse.

Also, you're Japanese? That's great, it's nice having an outside (or inside, LOL) perspective on this sort of thing. happy.gif


About Shikamaru's line, the MR version is correct. As for Kiba's line it could go with both MS and MR version. It's just Kiba saying that Naruto's smell is different to before.

Haha, yeah I'm Japanese! So I'd be glad to help if you want to know anything about the Japanese culture behind the Naruto Universe^^
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 03:25 AM

QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Oct 10 2011, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kishi's terrible like that. Like I said, he gives characters plot armor that can stop a nuke. See Pein's invasion of Konoha when no one dies. Even when he nuked the village.

I can tolerate it on this war because the main combatants on the enemy side are cloned bipedal, talking plants that are about as strong as bipedal, talking plants.

I agree with the underlined.

The bolded made me chuckle laugh.gif

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