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#3161 Yyubie

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Posted 03 June 2016 - 08:05 AM

Everybody relax. AHK brought up a fair point, so there is no need to attack him for it.

 

If you find AHK to be too angry with Orihime, I think I can tell you why. The reason I am anyway. The fact that she's even in this room with the 2 strongest people in the universe fighting it out, and having all the moments with Ichigo is beyond horrible writing. No matter who you ship with who, it's disgusting.

 

I feel bad that Orihime couldn't get these moments of character development out the way much sooner. All the while, the girl Ichigo is paired with by 2x more fans than IchiHime has, and the girl who is the main heroine... still done nothing since she used her bankai (2 years ago?). Kubo rather force crappy and out of place IchiHime moments in our face than give us the battle. The long overdue battle that should of happened 3 years ago if Kubo didn't make his manga so slow these past 5 years to get more money.

 

Why shouldn't we be ticked off? You want to make IchiHime happen? Okay, we'll have to accept it, even though most people still doubt that's going to happen. But, don't ruin your story forcing it to happen at the worst possible time. We have a battle we want to see, not Orihime spreading her eyes 8 pages every chapter with flashbacks and things we just saw Ichigo say. I like Orihime, but if it fixes what should be one of the best battles in manga history, then I'm okay with her dying or taking serious enough injury to leave the picture for now.

Still the fact that Rukia meeting Ichigo was all part of Aizen plan ... he is the one that stations Rukia in Karakura town, still pissed me off.

Besides what's wrong with a female stand together in the same room with 2 strongest people in the manga??? Female must stay in home cooking ?? is that what you saying?? and if it was Rukia not Inoue there it's okay ?? sounds like NH fans there.


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Posted 03 June 2016 - 01:10 PM

....stuff happened here....anyway! I feel upset over how Ichigo looks....I don't find him as attractive no more...they messed with his hair...

He's Super Quincy Hollow Shinigami-Jin. It can't be helped.

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Posted 03 June 2016 - 04:55 PM

1. ohoho, so I am on a high horse and making assumptions for calling you out on your attitude? News flash: Freedom of speech does not equate to immunity to criticism. Don't go around **** talking other characters people might like and think everyone will just meekly ignore it. It's so freaking easy to go around saying "ohhh I didn't actually mean it" and expect it to be enough to get away with anything.
2. **** personal opinions, as I said before, my issue is wtih your attitude. 
3. You say that, but you seem more then content to judge Orihime while wearing shipping googles. You've being doing that ever since she came with Ichigo for the final boss.

  
1.) I didn't bash any characters. My response was catered to @luffyq1, not you. I was speaking in jest to him, not you. Me calling him an Orihime fanboy was a joke, like him calling me salty was a joke. We both enjoy poking at each other, I don't have to explain myself to you. If I had intended to be a douchebag, it would have been very clear.
2.) then your issue is with something nonexistent.
3.) I haven't been judging her wearing shipping goggles, I merely pointed out something that you took issue with for no reason.

Everybody relax. AHK brought up a fair point, so there is no need to attack him for it.
 
If you find AHK to be too angry with Orihime, I think I can tell you why. The reason I am anyway. The fact that she's even in this room with the 2 strongest people in the universe fighting it out, and having all the moments with Ichigo is beyond horrible writing. No matter who you ship with who, it's disgusting.
 
I feel bad that Orihime couldn't get these moments of character development out the way much sooner. All the while, the girl Ichigo is paired with by 2x more fans than IchiHime has, and the girl who is the main heroine... still done nothing since she used her bankai (2 years ago?). Kubo rather force crappy and out of place IchiHime moments in our face than give us the battle. The long overdue battle that should of happened 3 years ago if Kubo didn't make his manga so slow these past 5 years to get more money.
 
Why shouldn't we be ticked off? You want to make IchiHime happen? Okay, we'll have to accept it, even though most people still doubt that's going to happen. But, don't ruin your story forcing it to happen at the worst possible time. We have a battle we want to see, not Orihime spreading her eyes 8 pages every chapter with flashbacks and things we just saw Ichigo say. I like Orihime, but if it fixes what should be one of the best battles in manga history, then I'm okay with her dying or taking serious enough injury to leave the picture for now.

It has nothing to do with me being angry. I was never angry. All I did was say that Orihime's response to Ichigo was pretty repulsive, that was my initial response to seeing her react that way to Ichigo.

As I said before There’s an underlying lack of trust and fear of him that isn’t healthy, and isn’t fair to him. She consistently rejects a part of him (which has been the case ever since she learned of his hollow), whereas if you love someone, you should love all of them. I think it’s telling that Orihime would reject his hollow, while Rukia embrace it and would tell him to overcome it.

Honestly, I don't even care that Orihime is there, she is a non factor.

Still the fact that Rukia meeting Ichigo was all part of Aizen plan ... he is the one that stations Rukia in Karakura town, still pissed me off.
Besides what's wrong with a female stand together in the same room with 2 strongest people in the manga??? Female must stay in home cooking ?? is that what you saying?? and if it was Rukia not Inoue there it's okay ?? sounds like NH fans there.

Don't twist his words. He didn't even come remotely close to saying what you're trying to imply. He wasn't talking about what a woman's place is. Like it or not, Orihime is weak, especially in comparison to them. She does not belong in that room as a participant of that fight, the same way that Chad or Uryu or Kisuke or Grimmjow or Byakuya or Rangiku or Toshiro or Karin or Yoruichi don't belong.

You should really not make assumptions like that, especially when they come at the cost of someone's character. It's irresponsible.

now excuse me, I'm going to go be sick somewhere, because me and Jordan are actually on the same side of an argument :sick:

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Posted 03 June 2016 - 05:55 PM

Besides what's wrong with a female stand together in the same room with 2 strongest people in the manga??? Female must stay in home cooking ?? is that what you saying?? and if it was Rukia not Inoue there it's okay ?? sounds like NH fans there.

What? I don't want Rukia there either. Or any other guy. Orihime can go fight someone else, but not interfere with the final battle that she has no point being at. Why must people on the internet accuse men of being sexist when they make better points than them? It's one of the worse things our generation has encouraged.

 

 

  now excuse me, I'm going to go be sick somewhere, because me and Jordan are actually on the same side of an argument :sick:

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Posted 03 June 2016 - 07:03 PM

Wait. What do you mean with that comment about sexist?

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Posted 03 June 2016 - 07:15 PM

Wait. What do you mean with that comment about sexist?

He/She implied I wanted women to stay in the home cooking instead of fighting. It's a classic tactic used against men by people who are losing in a debate in our generation, sadly. As a white male, you're called racist and sexist in America for EVERYTHING, with it being sexist in this scenario. Even wanting to watch a battle without unnecessary interruptions is considered sexist because I'm a male. :argh:


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Posted 03 June 2016 - 07:45 PM

He/She implied I wanted women to stay in the home cooking instead of fighting. It's a classic tactic used against men by people who are losing in a debate in our generation, sadly. As a white male, you're called racist and sexist in America for EVERYTHING, with it being sexist in this scenario. Even wanting to watch a battle without unnecessary interruptions is considered sexist because I'm a male. :argh:

Nice word there. Ugh ... i'm losing debate!!


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Posted 03 June 2016 - 07:54 PM

Nice word there. Ugh ... i'm losing debate!!

With the way you tried to come at AHK and then me, I would say it's quite obvious. :ermm:


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Posted 03 June 2016 - 07:55 PM

He/She implied I wanted women to stay in the home cooking instead of fighting. It's a classic tactic used against men by people who are losing in a debate in our generation, sadly. As a white male, you're called racist and sexist in America for EVERYTHING, with it being sexist in this scenario. Even wanting to watch a battle without unnecessary interruptions is considered sexist because I'm a male. :argh:

I get it.

 

I got to say though. Ghostbusters is a massive bait for sexist.



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Posted 03 June 2016 - 08:00 PM

I get it.

 

I got to say though. Ghostbusters is a massive bait for sexist.

Which is why the movie has horrible ratings already. Anyway, this is not the thread for that. :lol:


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Posted 03 June 2016 - 08:51 PM

Which is why the movie has horrible ratings already. Anyway, this is not the thread for that. :lol:

That's a good point. Lol.

Anyway, so you think it's following the usual formula?

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Posted 03 June 2016 - 09:43 PM

That's a good point. Lol.

Anyway, so you think it's following the usual formula?

Usual formula?


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Posted 03 June 2016 - 09:49 PM

Usual formula?

Villain: I'm hurt by the awesomeness!
Hero: Hell yeah you did!
Villain: Too bad I got more trick!
Hero: Oh no!

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Posted 03 June 2016 - 10:19 PM

Used your favorite girl for a response.
 
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Ew. Even more sick.

 

Miranda Lawson solo's Lameshigi.


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Posted 04 June 2016 - 01:19 AM

Villain: I'm hurt by the awesomeness!
Hero: Hell yeah you did!
Villain: Too bad I got more trick!
Hero: Oh no!

I'm confused. :argh:

Ew. Even more sick.

 

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Fight me 1v1 Overwatch. Mei best girl.


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Posted 04 June 2016 - 01:34 AM

The formula of trading blows. No real such thing as equal battle. One is down, only to get back up in a stronger form, as the hero is down and struggle but the drive to win asspull their way.

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Posted 04 June 2016 - 01:49 AM

I'm confused. :argh:

Fight me 1v1 Overwatch. Mei best girl.

Haven't even watched any videos about overwatch, I literally know nothing about it except for the fact that Miranda Lawson solos Mei. As well as all of your other favorites.


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Posted 04 June 2016 - 03:15 AM

orihime is getting all the good moments with her future hubby. she's the shield and he's the sword. 


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Posted 04 June 2016 - 04:49 AM

Haven't even watched any videos about overwatch, I literally know nothing about it except for the fact that Miranda Lawson solos Mei. As well as all of your other favorites.

Lawson can't shoot through Mei's ice. So Mei > Lawson.

orihime is getting all the good moments with her future hubby. she's the shield and he's the sword. 

She can be the shield all she wants. She isn't stopping the rain.

 

The formula of trading blows. No real such thing as equal battle. One is down, only to get back up in a stronger form, as the hero is down and struggle but the drive to win asspull their way.

This sounds like it came out of an anime. :ohmy:


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Posted 04 June 2016 - 05:16 AM

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