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[firegirl]

..@firegirl
its their calculations that they find their confidence with
it goes this way,

Its because of Sai's statement "Because she loves him", plust the interview, plus the flashback of Naruto of Sakura mostly in part 1 and 2 panels for part 2, plus the confession of Sakura to Sasuke, which it is the most sincere of all confession, plus the thank you of Sasuke is the sign of reciprocation equals there are now canon!... ...
and a lot of

most sincere my ass its most pathetic and made sakura into a joke.SHE was 13 how would she know love

she dint even speack about why she loves him

i doubt she loves him now

since everything sai said is speculated

[Froot]

Dirt? Um, DUH the kids had dirt on their faces! Just like how Naruto had dirt on his face when Sakura was about to feed him, and all those moments Naruto and Sakura had, that was dirt, too. Dirt explains everything. Naruto wasn't blushing in the hotsprings, that was dirt, too. Why do you think he was in the baths?

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Thanks for that, Pinkie, I had lots of fun with it

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

most sincere my ass its most pathetic and made sakura into a joke.SHE was 13 how would she know love

she dint even speack about why she loves him

i doubt she loves him now

since everything sai said is speculated

I agree. You can notice the two different things. One, when Sai told Sakura that Naruto really loves her, Sai had a conclusion due he read on the book and most importantly he asked Naruto.
Two, When Sai told Naruto that "because she loves him", the only flashback we encounter is about the fake smile plus Naruto is telling Sakura loves Sasuke.
So his assumptions for this, of "because she loves him" is that because Naruto is insisting that Sakura loves Sasuke. This is kinda SS fans missed to interpret. It is Naruto thinking, not Sakura.

In defense on Naruto, It is natural for his character to react like this. he is still doesn't know what a girl's heart is. (me too, i kinda don't know, what a girl's heart.) Remember even he was surprise Hinata confessed. and look the way he reacted.:

Dirt? Um, DUH the kids had dirt on their faces! Just like how Naruto had dirt on his face when Sakura was about to feed him, and all those moments Naruto and Sakura had, that was dirt, too. Dirt explains everything. Naruto wasn't blushing in the hotsprings, that was dirt, too. Why do you think he was in the baths?

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Thanks for that, Pinkie, I had lots of fun with it

No problem, Froot!...
I got a dirt on my face too

Edited by pinkheartsyellowstars, 10 January 2010 - 09:40 AM.

[tekopi]

even so, the moment of this new omake is release, I keep on wondering what the other fanshipper will react?

any ideas?

[Gravenimage]

even so, the moment of this new omake is release, I keep on wondering what the other fanshipper will react?

any ideas?

Well so far what I have seen that N/H fans are saying the usual that Hinata is better than Sakura saying" Naruto-kun" or that Hinata is the original" Naruto-kun" I personally think that they don't care if the omake was bashing Hinata they will eventually think its about bashing Sakura. I prefer if Sakura doesn't act like Hinata thank you very much I just don't want her to act like a fan girl again. Being with Naruto she can act herself and she's not afraid to express herself compare to when Sasuke was around. Besides I'm sure Sakura feels comfortable being around Naruto than being with Sasuke. So in truth the N/H fans are not faze with the 142 omake they are actually happy that Hinata appeared at the end of the episode.

Not withstanding they are against the mainguyxmaingirl, plus the "TWILIGHT" parrallels are more important than the Sannin.

God I forgot about that I think that's the only reason they believe Sakura still loves Sasuke because of the piece of trash movie (no offense to the Twilight fans in this forum sorry but I hate Twilight) they start comparing series seeing Sakura is just like the lead female that she's going to use Jacob's love the same way with Naruto and she's going to run off to Sasuke like she did with Edward. It's the same way when they compare Naruto to Harry Potter god please what is wrong with these people?!

First of all Potter, Twilight and Naruto are completely different series you can't compare any of them. They are written by different authors with different ideas they have a different view of how their series run. Just because Rowling made Harry fall in love with Ron's little sister in the last moment when he hasn't said a single word to her during the last books precisely no development whatsoever, it doesn't mean Naruto is going to fall in love with Hinata the same way. to me Rowling ran out of ideas to give Potter a good pairing and decided to go with the girl he hasn't said a single word without giving them development throughout the series.

The same goes with Twilight just because the lead female chose the emo vampire who shines like a disco ball when the sun hits him over the caring werewolf it doesn't mean that Sakura still loves emo Sasuke and she's using Naruto's feelings for her own benefit. Kishi is a different writer with different ideas and a different view of his story the same goes with Rowling and Meyer. It's not going to be like Potter when he saw Ron's sister being kissed by another boy that miraculously he realized he's in love with her. If Naruto sees Hinata getting kissed by Kiba or any other character it's not going to be "oh my god I'm jealous because I realized I'm in love with Hinata when I have truthfully love Sakura since the beginning"

Edited by Derock, 10 January 2010 - 09:19 PM.

[tekopi]

God I forgot about that I think that's the only reason they believe Sakura still loves Sasuke because of the piece of trash movie (no offense to the Twilight fans in this forum sorry but I hate Twilight) they start comparing series seeing Sakura is just like the lead female that she's going to use Jacob's love the same way with Naruto and she's going to run off to Sasuke like she did with Edward. It's the same way when they compare Naruto to Harry Potter god please what is wrong with these people?!

First of all Potter, Twilight and Naruto are completely different series you can't compare any of them. They are written by different authors with different ideas they have a different view of how their series run. Just because Rowling made Harry fall in love with Ron's little sister in the last moment when he hasn't said a single word to her during the last books precisely no development whatsoever, it doesn't mean Naruto is going to fall in love with Hinata the same way. to me Rowling ran out of ideas to give Potter a good pairing and decided to go with the girl he hasn't said a single word without giving them development throughout the series.

The same goes with Twilight just because the lead female chose the emo vampire who shines like a disco ball when the sun hits him over the caring werewolf it doesn't mean that Sakura still loves emo Sasuke and she's using Naruto's feelings for her own benefit. Kishi is a different writer with different ideas and a different view of his story the same goes with Rowling and Meyer. It's not going to be like Potter when he saw Ron's sister being kissed by another boy that miraculously he realized he's in love with her. If Naruto sees Hinata getting kissed by Kiba or any other character it's not going to be "oh my god I'm jealous because I realized I'm in love with Hinata when I have truthfully love Sakura since the beginning"

Naruto is the masterpiece of kishimoto, not the Twilight@H.P. makers (which their names slip out of my mind for a while, sorry )

Why in the world that they think Sakura will going to use Naruto like that? Even IF (for god's sake), Sakura does think Naruto as true friend in the end, she WILL NEVER use Naruto like that and 'run away' with Sasuke.

For me, they maybe seeing stuff but not really looking the REAL MEANINGS of this Kishi-san's masterpiece. Plus, they are comparing him with other people's stuffs. I don't see Kishi's gonna do things like that.

[Gravenimage]

God I forgot about that I think that's the only reason they believe Sakura still loves Sasuke because of the piece of trash movie (no offense to the Twilight fans in this forum sorry but I hate Twilight) they start comparing series seeing Sakura is just like the lead female that she's going to use Jacob's love the same way with Naruto and she's going to run off to Sasuke like she did with Edward. It's the same way when they compare Naruto to Harry Potter god please what is wrong with these people?!

First of all Potter, Twilight and Naruto are completely different series you can't compare any of them. They are written by different authors with different ideas they have a different view of how their series run. Just because Rowling made Harry fall in love with Ron's little sister in the last moment when he hasn't said a single word to her during the last books precisely no development whatsoever, it doesn't mean Naruto is going to fall in love with Hinata the same way. to me Rowling ran out of ideas to give Potter a good pairing and decided to go with the girl he hasn't said a single word without giving them development throughout the series.

The same goes with Twilight just because the lead female chose the emo vampire who shines like a disco ball when the sun hits him over the caring werewolf it doesn't mean that Sakura still loves emo Sasuke and she's using Naruto's feelings for her own benefit. Kishi is a different writer with different ideas and a different view of his story the same goes with Rowling and Meyer. It's not going to be like Potter when he saw Ron's sister being kissed by another boy that miraculously he realized he's in love with her. If Naruto sees Hinata getting kissed by Kiba or any other character it's not going to be "oh my god I'm jealous because I realized I'm in love with Hinata when I have truthfully love Sakura since the beginning"



Naruto is the masterpiece of kishimoto, not the Twilight@H.P. makers (which their names slip out of my mind for a while, sorry )

Why in the world that they think Sakura will going to use Naruto like that? Even IF (for god's sake), Sakura does think Naruto as true friend in the end, she WILL NEVER use Naruto like that and 'run away' with Sasuke.

For me, they maybe seeing stuff but not really looking the REAL MEANINGS of this Kishi-san's masterpiece. Plus, they are comparing him with other people's stuffs. I don't see Kishi's gonna do things like that.

It goes to show you what denial being blind and ignore every single piece of N/S evidence the same with the development throughout the manga does to people. It's all part of desperation they are desperate because they haven't seen any development with their pairings since part 2 started and they looked for any artificial evidence that will help them support their pairings and comparing the Naruto manga with Potter and Twilight is one of those fake evidence. Anything that will help them back their pairings and give them a 100% chance that they are alive and they will become canon. Even if Kishi has prove them wrong dozens of time.

Edited by Gravenimage, 10 January 2010 - 02:27 PM.

[fireandice]

@Gravenimage and tekopi

I too don't particularly like Twilight . But that aside, let's point out that the main pairing in Twilight that happened in the end (Bella and Edward) was the first one introduced in the very beginning. It was the one that the writer first developed (nevermind how well we think that was done), but the focus was consistently on Bella and Edward, whether their relationship was in tumult (New Moon e.g) or deepening. They had consistent INTERACTION unlike NaruHina

Let's not forget that Kishimoto is Japanese, I wouldn't say that we could so easily compare HP and Twilight to Naruto because of the different cultural influences (not to mention the bigger fact that the plots of all 3 bear almost zero resemblance to each other )

And let's look at the context of the whole story. Naruto started out as a loser, the village pariah whom everyone thought would amount to nothing. Throughout the story, Kishimoto has been stressing Naruto's sheer hardwork he has put in to improve his skills and gain the acknowledgement of people.

Now, look at it- what kind of weird antithetical message would it be if in the end Sakura didn't realize all Naruto did for her and just ran off with Sasuke??? Goodness, while Sasuke looks beyond redemption to me, I think Kishi will have him saved in the end (whether in death or what), but to have Sakura go back to being with Sasuke (after hundreds of chapters of no romantic development) will just be a silly reversal of the whole plot.

It would effectively bring us back to very beginning of Naruto when Sakura had a childish crush on Sasuke and nothing changed- and honestly, would Kishimoto do that? Look at how much he has developed Naruto from chapter 1 to the latest one.

Edited by fireandice, 10 January 2010 - 02:14 PM.

[Gravenimage]

@Gravenimage and tekopi

I too don't particularly like Twilight . But that aside, let's point out that the main pairing in Twilight that happened in the end (Bella and Edward) was the first one introduced in the very beginning. It was the one that the writer first developed (nevermind how well we think that was done), but the focus was consistently on Bella and Edward, whether their relationship was in tumult (New Moon e.g) or deepening. They had consistent INTERACTION unlike NaruHina

Let's not forget that Kishimoto is Japanese, I wouldn't say that we could so easily compare HP and Twilight to Naruto because of the different cultural influences (not to mention the bigger fact that the plots of all 3 bear almost zero resemblance to each other )

And let's look at the context of the whole story. Naruto started out as a loser, the village pariah whom everyone thought would amount to nothing. Throughout the story, Kishimoto has been stressing Naruto's sheer hardwork he has put in to improve his skills and gain the acknowledgement of people.

Now, look at it- what kind of weird antithetical message would it be if in the end Sakura didn't realize all Naruto did for her and just ran off with Sasuke??? Goodness, while Sasuke looks beyond redemption to me, I think Kishi will have him saved in the end (whether in death or what), but to have Sakura go back to being with Sasuke (after hundreds of chapters of no romantic development) will just be a silly reversal of the whole plot.

It would effectively bring us back to very beginning of Naruto when Sakura had a childish crush on Sasuke and nothing changed- and honestly, would Kishimoto do that? Look at how much he has developed Naruto from chapter 1 to the latest one.

I agree with you but N/H and S/S fans have become so desperate to a point that they don't care if there ISN'T any development between Naruto, Hinata, Sasuke and Sakura throughout the entire manga or if there is a bigger and longer development between Naruto and Sakura. They just want to see them get together because of the sheer fact that they are popular pairings (at least the rest of the world except Japan ) that's it popularity. It all comes down to a battle between popularity vs. Kishi's logic in the course of his manga I wonder who will win?

Edited by Gravenimage, 10 January 2010 - 02:44 PM.

[fireandice]

@SS3 Goku



@Gravenimage

Well, considering the Japanese are Kishi's most direct market, what THEY think will matter more (other than what he himself wants to write). Naruto has been consistently placing 1st or 2nd for years (battling with One Piece XD) in the weekly jump rankings- there was no steep drop during Sakura's confession chapter or ANYTHING so it seems the outrage is more confined to say the US? In general, I don't really get the impression that NaruHina is all that more popular than NaruSaku in Japan.

[Gravenimage]

@SS3 Goku



@Gravenimage

Well, considering the Japanese are Kishi's most direct market, what THEY think will matter more (other than what he himself wants to write). Naruto has been consistently placing 1st or 2nd for years (battling with One Piece XD) in the weekly jump rankings- there was no steep drop during Sakura's confession chapter or ANYTHING so it seems the outrage is more confined to say the US? In general, I don't really get the impression that NaruHina is all that more popular than NaruSaku in Japan.

I think N/S is popular in Japan along with some yaoi pairings. But I assure you that when 469 was released the Japanese were probably happy or celebrating that Sakura finally told Naruto that she loves him, even if it was in the wrong time at the wrong place. Compare to the rest of the world I can remember like it was yesterday when the 469 spoilers came god they were flaming, bashing Sakura more than usual. They were saying she's lying she's using Naruto's feelings to stop chasing Sasuke she's a real b****. I feel sorry for Kishi a lot of people outside of Japan don't appreciate his great work.

Edited by Gravenimage, 10 January 2010 - 03:16 PM.

[firegirl]

guys louchan looked at the raw for 474 and she got this


First of all, the quote at the beginning of the chapter was in fact "Sai reveals Sakura's true feelings" and not "intentions". The kanji used were 本心.
Also, they did talk about Sakura's love for Sasuke in a present time tense, not past. The kanji used were mainly 大好きだから.

So... yeah. You were mistaken Gogeta.

[Gravenimage]

guys louchan looked at the raw for 474 and she got this


First of all, the quote at the beginning of the chapter was in fact "Sai reveals Sakura's true feelings" and not "intentions". The kanji used were 本心.
Also, they did talk about Sakura's love for Sasuke in a present time tense, not past. The kanji used were mainly 大好きだから.

So... yeah. You were mistaken Gogeta.

Whoa I guess I was wrong too thanks for finally clearing that out however we still need to hear from Sakura's perspective to finally know what she really feels.

[firegirl]

Whoa I guess I was wrong too thanks for finally clearing that out however we still need to hear from Sakura's perspective to finally know what she really feels.

agree i wont belive anything untill it comes out of her mouth(still abit crush)

[fireandice]

@firegirl

In my opinion, that's mainly indicative of Sakura's lingering feelings for Sasuke, and the platonic love she probably still holds for him. IMO, I don't think it's a gameover kind of moment XD like some SasuSaku fans made it to be. Plus things like people's emotions aren't like mathematics, they're nuanced and can't be summarized by leaping on single statements, haha!

Of course, it certainly isn't clear cut what exactly she feels (I think Kishi is being vague on purpose).

For me, taking into account everything else that has happened, Sakura has really begun to love Naruto romantically, though it's likely she has lingering romantic feelings for Sasuke and (highly likely) she still cares for him as a friend.

[firegirl]

@firegirl

In my opinion, that's mainly indicative of Sakura's lingering feelings for Sasuke, and the platonic love she probably still holds for him. IMO, I don't think it's a gameover kind of moment XD like some SasuSaku fans made it to be. Plus things like people's emotions aren't like mathematics, they're nuanced and can't be summarized by leaping on single statements, haha!

Of course, it certainly isn't clear cut what exactly she feels (I think Kishi is being vague on purpose).

For me, taking into account everything else that has happened, Sakura has really begun to love Naruto romantically, though it's likely she has lingering romantic feelings for Sasuke and (highly likely) she still cares for him as a friend.

your right but the true feelings part gave me abit of doubt, i know she has linguring feelings but she may love both boys

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

So it is clear that only the translation of the new interview are "fanstranslated"

[Gravenimage]

So it is clear that only the translation of the new interview are "fanstranslated"

Yeah that has been confirmed true it was really translated by desperate N/H and S/S fans but anyway I won't let that interview bother me instead I will let Kishi give me the answer with reading his manga.