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[Nar123]

Sakura - The girl that supported Naruto from the beginning.

Hinata  - The girl that never supported Naruto ever. And still doesn't.

 

And yet, what Kishi ended up choosing? 

 

Sometimes, I still can't wrap up my mind in how much he managed to murder this series, smh. Naruto had so much potential as a series, Sakura had so much potential as a character...

 

To see them wasted, it used to make me sad and heartbroken but right now...there is just a numb feeling

Edited by Nar123, 15 August 2015 - 03:49 PM.

[Yyubie]

Sakura - The girl that supported Naruto from the beginning.

Hinata  - The girl that never supported Naruto ever. And still doesn't.

NH Fans claim that because Hinata is in different team/not in team 7. If Hinata is in team 7 she will support Naruto a lot more better than Sakura ....

They say that Hinata is sad at chapter 3 because shes not one team in Naruto while Sakura is sad because she ended in the same team with Naruto.

[LuckyChi7]

While re-living my journey of Naruto, I got myself to Volume 6 more specifically near the end of Chapter 53: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And The Beginning of Chapter 54:

 

 

A lot of people like to say Sakura didn't become a better character until Part 2 and while that is true, but this was where I saw the potential in her and why I always considered her an interesting character from this point on. 

 

Chapter 54 - The Shift Within A Character

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Namikaze Clan]

It's only a matter of time until we see Guns and other firearms in the Narutoverse

[TouKen4Life3g]

It's only a matter of time until we see Guns and other firearms in the Narutoverse

I'm just waiting for ninjutsu on motorcycle at this point.

[Nostradamus]

 

And yet, what Kishi ended up choosing? 

 

Sometimes, I still can't wrap up my mind in how much he managed to murder this series, smh. Naruto had so much potential as a series, Sakura had so much potential as a character...

 

To see them wasted, it used to make me sad and heartbroken but right now...there is just a numb feeling

Like I've said before I'm not convinced that he was the one that did this.

 

NH Fans claim that because Hinata is in different team/not in team 7. If Hinata is in team 7 she will support Naruto a lot more better than Sakura ....

They say that Hinata is sad at chapter 3 because shes not one team in Naruto while Sakura is sad because she ended in the same team with Naruto.

They can claim whatever they want. Hinata even when ending up with him still doesn't support him. So they can say whatever they like to support their illusions.

[Namikaze Clan]

He still let SP have their way instead of fighting. He's just as much to blame as Pierrot

I'm just waiting for ninjutsu on motorcycle at this point.

Wouldnt surprise me at this point.

[Nar123]

Like I've said before I'm not convinced that he was the one that did this.

 

 

 

Doesn't really matter for me, as an author he is the one that had the last word and he let his series become trash, essentially he is the same as SP

[LuckyChi7]

Like I've said before I'm not convinced that he was the one that did this.

 

They can claim whatever they want. Hinata even when ending up with him still doesn't support him. So they can say whatever they like to support their illusions.

 

I'm not all that convinced either.. Lately (since the ending) I feel like the minute Kishi says something, SP has to step in and correct him which is why he ends up changing  what he says within every interview... and the reason why I get this strange feeling is because around the time The Fourth Great Ninja War Arc started Kishi had to cut stuff out due to editorial pressure or something like that.. I can't really remember he mentioned it in one of the early volumes regarding The Fourth Great Ninja War. I honestly feel like around that time was when things were being planned out... Especially when it came to The Last Naruto The Movie, he didn't even write the movie and yet many people believe that he had. 

 

 

Let's look at Road to Ninja for example that too me is a perfect representation of Kishi's writing (at least that's what i thought): 

 

- Characters are still in tact (Specifically Naruto and Sakura)  

 

- A genjutsu was involved  but it was used effectively (well more so Naruto and Sakura were teleported to a different dimension) 

 

- Left a strong message about a loved one and especially The Last.

 

- It was still a Shounen Movie  

 

 

Now when it comes to The Last  I think its pretty obvious:

 

- Nobody was in character 

 

- Used a cheap yet anti-climactic ways of having two people falling in love 

 

- Genjutsu was used, but in the most stupidest way ever 

 

- It was mainly a Shoujo Movie (a bad one) 

 

- One of The Biggest Disappointing Endings ever seen in a movie. 

 

 

 

The only thing The Last did right were a few things: 

 

- Background on Hamura Ootsutsuki 

 

- Kurama's action scenes (as always he's the best) 

 

- The Summarization of The entire series in under  3 minutes 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 15 August 2015 - 05:29 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

I'm not all that convinced either.. Lately (since the ending) I feel like the minute Kishi says something, SP has to step in and correct him which is why he ends up changing  what he says within every interview... and the reason why I get this strange feeling is because around the time The Fourth Great Ninja War Arc started Kishi had to cut stuff out due to editorial pressure or something like that.. I can't really remember he mentioned it in one of the early volumes regarding The Fourth Great Ninja War. I honestly feel like around that time was when things were being planned out... Especially when it came to The Last Naruto The Movie, he didn't even write the movie and yet many people believe that he had. 

 

 

Let's look at Road to Ninja for example that too me is a perfect representation of Kishi's writing (at least that's what i thought): 

 

- Characters are still in tact (Specifically Naruto and Sakura)  

 

- A genjutsu was involved  but it was used effectively (well more so Naruto and Sakura were teleported to a different dimension) 

 

- Left a strong message about a loved one and especially The Last.

 

- It was still a Shounen Movie  

 

 

Now when it comes to The Last  I think its pretty obvious:

 

- Nobody was in character 

 

- Used a cheap yet anti-climactic ways of having two people falling in love 

 

- Genjutsu was used, but in the most stupidest way ever 

 

- It was mainly a Shoujo Movie (a bad one) 

 

- One of The Biggest Disappointing Endings ever seen in a movie. 

 

 

 

The only thing The Last did right were a few things: 

 

- Background on Hamura Ootsutsuki 

 

- Kurama's action scenes (as always he's the best) 

 

- The Summarization of The entire series in under  3 minutes 

 

And all of that is why I don't want to see The Last, but would prefer to watch Road to Ninja again. :)

[Nostradamus]

 

Doesn't really matter for me, as an author he is the one that had the last word and he let his series become trash, essentially he is the same as SP

Well again like I've said before we don't really know if he really had the last word. However that being said even if didn't have the last word he still let it happen. So I'm not saying that he's a victim in all of this and he's innocent. I'm just saying that I'm not convinced that he is behind all of this.

[FireFox]

It's only a matter of time until we see Guns and other firearms in the Narutoverse

Well it already kind of did happen with that stupid Chakra Laser Canon in TL .

 

CLC

 

 

 

Oh and also with Pain the Asura (Mechanical) Path  remember that guys !? God how I found that stupid I never really did get it , jfc why Mechanical why not something that makes sense !? .

 

spoiler

 

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 15 August 2015 - 05:40 PM.

[Namikaze Clan]

Well again like I've said before we don't really know if he really had the last word. However that being said even if didn't have the last word he still let it happen. So I'm not saying that he's a victim in all of this and he's innocent. I'm just saying that I'm not convinced that he is behind all of this.

We already know he wasn't fully behind this and SP had some involvement. That was obvious in the original manga. We're just upset that he gave up too easily

Edited by Namikaze Clan, 15 August 2015 - 05:44 PM.

[TheFirstEvil100]

NH Fans claim that because Hinata is in different team/not in team 7. If Hinata is in team 7 she will support Naruto a lot more better than Sakura ....

They say that Hinata is sad at chapter 3 because shes not one team in Naruto while Sakura is sad because she ended in the same team with Naruto.

bull kittening kitten she was never in chapter 3 never again this shows Hinata fans are kittening blind and stupid as kitten as they don't even know when she showed up.

[Nostradamus]

We already know he wasn't fully behind this and SP had some involvement. That was obvious in the original manga. We're just upset that he gave up too easily

Agreed. And that's why I said in my rant that nothing was stopping him saying "If you guys want to do this fine, do it without me." Even if the people above him dictated what to do and it was in his contract to obey them. Nothing was stopping him from saying goodbye to them and letting them whatever they want.

 

He ended up exactly like Naruto. He gives up in the end.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

bull kittening kitten she was never in chapter 3 never again this shows Hinata fans are kittening blind and stupid as kitten as they don't even know when she showed up.

 

And besides, if Hinata was Naruto's teammate, how do we know she'd even want to change? I mean, Sakura for her complaining early on about having Naruto as a teammate, went out of her way still to want to help him, even if she didn't realize it all the time. Hinata would have been a nervous wreck, plus we don't know if she would have been able to make use of medical Ninjutsu like Sakura did, so that would mean trouble in a lot of ways. I've spoken to HalfDemonInuyasha on Skype about this a few times, so we know what we're talking about.

[LuckyChi7]

 

 

 

 

I know in this day and age if a girl and boy are friends sure they can hug each other, it's not big deal that's a common thing.  

 

 

However, when you look at how Sakura hugs Naruto it's not friendly otherwise she would've wrapped both of her arms around his back, not place one of her hands near his face otherwise that's reaching implication that she has feelings for him which obviously is the case here. 

 

 

I just felt like posting this because somebody was pissing me off so I'm showcasing the difference between a normal hug and a hug in which the gestures show that it represents more than two friends hugging each other how it represents love. 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 15 August 2015 - 05:57 PM.

[TheFirstEvil100]

 

And besides, if Hinata was Naruto's teammate, how do we know she'd even want to change? I mean, Sakura for her complaining early on about having Naruto as a teammate, went out of her way still to want to help him, even if she didn't realize it all the time. Hinata would have been a nervous wreck, plus we don't know if she would have been able to make use of medical Ninjutsu like Sakura did, so that would mean trouble in a lot of ways. I've spoken to HalfDemonInuyasha on Skype about this a few times, so we know what we're talking about.

Yeah god I do hate the NH fandome I really do hate them and their blidness then again look at Hinata.

 

But its like you said what would she do nothing but faint all the dame time, kitten people say that Hinata would stop the path Sasuke went down as it Hinata she is so sweet she would stop him,

[hinataiscreepy]

More from chapter 43:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So far I got to say rereading Naruto has felt pretty nostalgic and man do these moments take me back. 

 

Naruto and Hinata were so freaking boring for him becoming HOKAGE which is supposed to be the most important day of his life and they are acting like it was

 

 

I mean there is no chemistry, no excitement, no fun, no sense of finality and closure because their development has no basis and foundation. They are just there. The one shot is just a mere excuse to introduce their psychotic comical daughter and of course its cool for everyone to do it except Sakura.

 

When you see the written exam scene plus the CPR and all their moments would have made the celebration with Narusaku something actually memorable and emotional.

 

Edit: the scene with Hinata not being in Naruto's group was a mere creation of SP. They were already at it right from the start.

Edited by hinataiscreepy, 15 August 2015 - 06:08 PM.

[rikakim94]

 

Something can be successful and still be a kitten

 

Example: Twilight 

 

And 50 shades of grey.